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#1 regnaston
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HIGHEST QUALITY MODE

  • PS5 and XSX target 4k/30
    • Had trouble finding drops below that on PS5 but even more trouble finding drops on XSX
      • One area where there was a drop to 2088p on PS5 but not present on XSX (time stamp 1:15)
  • XSS targets 1440p but had drops to 1368p
    • does not use the high quality textures that the XSX and PS5 do
    • lower AA filtering

HIGHEST PERFORMANCE MODE

  • PS5
    • Motion blur with checkerboarded 4K make the images look like they are lower resolution
    • Slight drops in FPS with effects on screen (keeps high 50's when it does drop)
    • load time 4:32
  • XSX
    • Does not use chekerboarding
    • appears to use post processing that is closer to the native res
    • because of this the XSX does not suffer from the image quality deficits that the PS5 does
    • scales res but since the res is achieved differently it looks different than the PS5 (see comparison at 4:50- 5:30 timestamp)
    • XSX has a better image quality than PS5 even though the resolution is lower (time stamp 6:25- 7:28) - the resolution in this image is 2016p (PS5) - 1872p (XSX) - this is due to post processing
    • Slight drops in FPS with effects on screen (slightly more than the PS5 does) (keeps high 50's when it does drop)
    • Load time 6:29
  • XSS
    • 1080p highest
    • blurry image due to lower res particle settings
    • less foliage than XSX
    • same frame rate as XSX
    • load time 6:36

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#3 Gym_Lion
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Still... good news about the load times.

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#4 regnaston
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@gym_lion said:

Still... good news about the load times.

We have not really seen any huge differences between the XSX and PS5 load times (a second or two here or there). I wonder if we will in the future. If not, maybe Sony should have put the $$ in the drive to a different location instead and went with a drive that is similar speed to the XSX

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#5 hardwenzen
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2sec faster loading screens. this is what Sony hyped us for over 2 years. exciting stuff, really.

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#6 UnnDunn
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Another win for Xbox. But hey, PS5 users get to play as Spider-Man... eventually. 🤣

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#8  Edited By TumorStation5
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None of the pixel counts on performance mode on ps5 are 2016p.. you can't call a checkerboarding image 2016p is not native and the ps5 runs the game mostly at 1920x2016p or 1440p and reconstruct the image to 1800p or sometimes to 4K the series X is pushing more native pixels than the ps5.

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#9 TumorStation5
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@hardwenzen: I wonder how many things I can do with 2 second slower game..

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#10 NathanDrakeSwag
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Meanwhile actual relevant games like Cold War look and perform better on PS5.

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#11  Edited By Bluestars
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another easy serious x win...VRR tv should iron out any of the one or two drops they found using a fine tooth comb

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#12 TumorStation5
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Look and perform better ?they are literally the same with the series X version being better at 4K/60 and ps5 performing better at lower resolution 120 mode and that's according to digital foundry.. but we'll your name is "natandrakeswag"😆

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#13 Duckyindiana
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Hahaha wow you are triggered

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#14 Silentchief
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Smallest difference in consoles in over a decade. It really will come down to exclusives.

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#15 Silentchief
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@tumorstation5 said:

None of the pixel counts on performance mode on ps5 are 2016p.. you can't call a checkerboarding image 2016p is not native and the ps5 runs the game mostly at 1920x2016p or 1440p and reconstruct the image to 1800p or sometimes to 4K the series X is pushing more native pixels than the ps5.

You literally just pulled those numbers out of your ass.

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#16  Edited By TumorStation5
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@silentchief: No ,watch the video and other analysis of the same game.

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#17  Edited By Silentchief
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@tumorstation5: I did and at no point is it 1920×2016p.

The fact it renders native 4k at 30 fps with better effects and no frame drops shows it would be unnecessary to drop the res by over 2x to maintain 60fps.

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#18 TumorStation5
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@silentchief: Some guy with a big channel that makes game analysis counted the pixels and ps5 version drops as low as 1920x2016p.

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#19 BlackShirt20
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XSX is super strong! Damn! Multiplayer king for sure!!

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#20 deactivated-628e6669daebe
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PS5 can't quite compete with the XSX but it's giving a good fight to de Series S.

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#21  Edited By Silentchief
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@tumorstation5: Except that guy has been wrong multiple times.

And he counted 1920x2160p not 1920x2016.

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#22 Silentchief
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@ghost_of_phobos: lol it's close to the series X and stomps the series S. Lems are delusional.

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#23  Edited By sonic_spark
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Until I am blue in the face, I will keep saying that the performance of the new consoles is embarrassing. 4k/60fps locked should be standard, and yet, they can't even do it on a last gen game?

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#24 PAL360
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I have yet to watch the vid, but from TC's resume it seems very close between Series X and PS5. One has slightly better image quality and the other is slightly more stable, as expected from two similar pieces of hardware.

Then i jump to the comments and everyone is talking about a 'massive win for Xbox'. Did i miss something?

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#25 VFighter
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@PAL360: Lems haven't had a win since...well I can't remember so they'll claim anything as a major win at this point. It's cute, let them have it lol.

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#26 hardwenzen
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The PS5 version is pretty much PS4Pro edition but in 60fps. 🤮

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#27 regnaston
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@PAL360: Watch the video and judge for yourself. The blurry images on the PS5 do not look good when contrasted with the XSX. The FPS is very similar on both (with the drops of a couple fps happening slightly more on the XSX according to DF). Given the choice I would rather have a clear image even if it meant a few more drops.. now if the FPS issue was that it constantly dropped frames, I would choose the blurry image

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#28 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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I blame the PS5 versions problems on Spider-Man, having an extra character in it cooked the PS5 version 🤣🤣🤣

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#29 Juub1990
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Xbox has been winning lately. Seems the tools narrative might have not been damage-control after all.

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#30 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@Juub1990: There's a thread here (can't remember which one) with Remedy who said that MS changed the tools late in the piece, so yeah there is truth to it so it seems.

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#31  Edited By Silentchief
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@hardwenzen said:

The PS5 version is pretty much PS4Pro edition but in 60fps. 🤮

Except with better textures, better AF, better transparency effects and if you do quality mode it's native 4k with better destruction.( which is honestly the most impressive improvement). It's the XSX version with Slightly lower IQ in performance mode and identical in quality mode.

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#32 BlackShirt20
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@silentchief: Sounds like it’s not as good as Xbox Series X. I was told PS5 was best for multiplat and that it’s super fast top secret SSD would run games not possible on other hardware. Guess that was a lie.

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#33 Sagemode87
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@PAL360: This thread is what last gen reduced Lems to. Celebrating stalemates and minor differences. This place has become a joke.

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#34  Edited By Sagemode87
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@i_p_daily: You realize this is a last gen game right? It's already been established that Series X has easier to upscale backwards compatibility. Lems will celebrate an extra pixel even though you lose in sales, popularity, and games.

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#35 BlackShirt20
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@Sagemode87: But Sony is losing in performance.

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#36  Edited By regnaston
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@Sagemode87 said:

@i_p_daily: You realize this is a last gen game right? It's already been established that Series X has easier to upscale backwards compatibility. Lems will celebrate an extra pixel even though you lose in sales, popularity, and games.

you do realize that this is a game made for the PS5 and Series S/X not a backwards compatible mode game right???

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#37 Duckyindiana
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@Sagemode87: And others don’t do the same!? So we don’t see cows in other DF threads celebrating minor differences!? You are the problem with this place

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#38 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@Sagemode87 said:

@i_p_daily: You realize this is a last gen game right? It's already been established that Series X has easier to upscale backwards compatibility. Lems will celebrate an extra pixel even though you lose in sales, popularity, and games.

You do realise i enjoy making fun of Sony and you cows, hence my comment, you getting butthurt over is only making my enjoyment all the better 😁

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#39  Edited By Bluestars
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3rd place

cows mad disease

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#40 SecretPolice
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Par for the course. :P

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#41 BenjaminBanklin
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This is a lame comparison. All these boring ass barely different ports. Just get the PC version.

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#42 HalcyonScarlet
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Bu bu, cows told me multiplats were better on the PS5 and that it was over for this gen, the PS5 had won the performance battle. They said "TeH LOLz DevelopMEnT ToOls".

Well... This is embarrassing, looks like the honey moon period is up. Didn't last long. :-S

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#43 HalcyonScarlet
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@Sagemode87 said:

@i_p_daily: You realize this is a last gen game right? It's already been established that Series X has easier to upscale backwards compatibility. Lems will celebrate an extra pixel even though you lose in sales, popularity, and games.

"Sales" is the best game on the PS5 right now. Must be amazing with that new controller. Imagine what the haptic feedback is like every time a sale goes through.

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#45  Edited By Silentchief
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@Sagemode87 said:

@i_p_daily: You realize this is a last gen game right? It's already been established that Series X has easier to upscale backwards compatibility. Lems will celebrate an extra pixel even though you lose in sales, popularity, and games.

"Sales" is the best game on the PS5 right now. Must be amazing with that new controller. Imagine what the haptic feedback is like every time a sale goes through.

No I would say Demonsouls is. Best looking game on either platform as well.

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#46 Silentchief
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@BlackShirt20 said:

@silentchief: Sounds like it’s not as good as Xbox Series X. I was told PS5 was best for multiplat and that it’s super fast top secret SSD would run games not possible on other hardware. Guess that was a lie.

It is better for some multiplats. I was told that would never happen... that the XSX had some massive advantage. And all its amounted to is small resolution differences in one mode.

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#47  Edited By Duckyindiana
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@silentchief: Jesus just give it a rest the Ps5 version is not as good stop the 😭

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#48 BenjaminBanklin
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@sts106mat said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

This is a lame comparison. All these boring ass barely different ports. Just get the PC version.

I'm butthurt? I have better hardware. In the meantime idiots are cheering for versions that runs settings lower than the PC with the best processing method instead of native. you should be ashamed. 🤣🤣🤣