"Let's cut straight to the chase: Nvidia Shield is a superb, state-of-the-art handheld product."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-shield-review
RIP, Vita.
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Watch it a sales flop in the same level as the Vita. I think it will do a lot worse. Besides, it's a gimped Vita. Vita has better native games, and can remote play PS4 games. Shield has shit native games, and can remote play PC, and whilst PC has a big library of games the shield is limited by what is controller friendly on PC.[QUOTE="loco145"]
"Let's cut straight to the chase: Nvidia Shield is a superb, state-of-the-art handheld product."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-shield-review
RIP, Vita.
Desmonic
[QUOTE="Desmonic"]Watch it a sales flop in the same level as the Vita. I think it will do a lot worse. Besides, it's a gimped Vita. Vita has better native games, and can remote play PS4 games. Shield has shit native games, and can remote play PC, and whilst PC has a big library of games the shield is limited by what is controller friendly on PC. It can only remote play if you have a certain nvidia gpu[QUOTE="loco145"]
"Let's cut straight to the chase: Nvidia Shield is a superb, state-of-the-art handheld product."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-shield-review
RIP, Vita.
SaltyMeatballs
[QUOTE="Desmonic"]Watch it a sales flop in the same level as the Vita. I think it will do a lot worse. Besides, it's a gimped Vita. Vita has better native games, and can remote play PS4 games. Shield has shit native games, and can remote play PC, and whilst PC has a big library of games the shield is limited by what is controller friendly on PC.[QUOTE="loco145"]
"Let's cut straight to the chase: Nvidia Shield is a superb, state-of-the-art handheld product."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-shield-review
RIP, Vita.
SaltyMeatballs
http://www.shacknews.com/article/80573/nvidia-claims-shield-sales-are-great-planning-to-ramp-production
It actually doing great beating nvidia expetations. Â
This is 2013 not 2005 and while smartphone games library is still lacking compared to handhelds is getting better day by day, Games like riptide Gp2 and bards Tale are comparable to AAA games on handhelds.Â
It can play remote play pc games now unlike Vita ( you know since Ps4 isnt yet out )
While i agree Psvita is better for gaming now the capabilities of Nvidia shield and the sheer power of hardware ( tegra 4 ) for $300 are not bad at all
It looks awful, like something from the 80s. Get that Razer tablet that has absurd specs or something if you want a portable "gaming" lol PC.
But honestly, it probably could give the gamegear a run for its money with that design.
its actually is but according to reviews so far is quite well build and ergonomically is quite good so you wont get tired after playing a while even though is a huge 570grlooks pretty bulky/clunky for a mobile device
lostrib
Its not a portable gaming PC. Its an android device that can stream PC games.It looks awful, like something from the 80s. Get that Razer tablet that has absurd specs or something if you want a portable "gaming" lol PC.
But honestly, it probably could give the gamegear a run for its money with that design.
Razor_defiace
[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] I think it will do a lot worse. Besides, it's a gimped Vita. Vita has better native games, and can remote play PS4 games. Shield has shit native games, and can remote play PC, and whilst PC has a big library of games the shield is limited by what is controller friendly on PC.Desmonic
http://www.shacknews.com/article/80573/nvidia-claims-shield-sales-are-great-planning-to-ramp-production
It actually doing great beating nvidia expetations. Â
This is 2013 not 2005 and while smartphone games library is still lacking compared to handhelds is getting better day by day, Games like riptide Gp2 and bards Tale are comparable to AAA games on handhelds.Â
It can play remote play pc games now unlike Vita ( you know since Ps4 isnt yet out )
While i agree Psvita is better for gaming now the capabilities of Nvidia shield and the sheer power of hardware ( tegra 4 ) for $300 are not bad at all
That's pretty relative to what Nvidia expected to sell in the first place. Selling 200k instead of a 100k for example is a huge increase, but nothing to brag about. And as others have pointed out, the PC streaming is heavily dependent on games which are controller friendly. Most modern PC games with controller support.....[QUOTE="adamosmaki"]
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] I think it will do a lot worse. Besides, it's a gimped Vita. Vita has better native games, and can remote play PS4 games. Shield has shit native games, and can remote play PC, and whilst PC has a big library of games the shield is limited by what is controller friendly on PC.Desmonic
http://www.shacknews.com/article/80573/nvidia-claims-shield-sales-are-great-planning-to-ramp-production
It actually doing great beating nvidia expetations. Â
This is 2013 not 2005 and while smartphone games library is still lacking compared to handhelds is getting better day by day, Games like riptide Gp2 and bards Tale are comparable to AAA games on handhelds.Â
It can play remote play pc games now unlike Vita ( you know since Ps4 isnt yet out )
While i agree Psvita is better for gaming now the capabilities of Nvidia shield and the sheer power of hardware ( tegra 4 ) for $300 are not bad at all
That's pretty relative to what Nvidia expected to sell in the first place. Selling 200k instead of a 100k for example is a huge increase, but nothing to brag about. And as others have pointed out, the PC streaming is heavily dependent on games which are controller friendly. i didnt say otherwise but apparently nvidia was expecting a number in order to be profitable and it seems they are well above that meaning there is a market for a device like. As for streaming there are alot of gamepad friendly games on pc so that wotn be a problem the problem would be adding more games to the list of stream capable games So far if i'm not mistaken there are only 25 certified games on steam ( it needs steam ) that work with streaming and while more are working those only are reported to be bug free ( from the reviews it seems the streaming service works quite good with no lag ) Finally as i said before right now handhelds are indeed better for gaming but this is a first gen product and thinks will get better ( since nvidia reported good sales i would imagine their would be Shield 2 ) plus shield can do more thanks to android compared to Vita/3dsMost modern PC games with controller support..... Again, most is not all. Which is my point. One thing is to have it standard like what Ninty could do with the 3DS and what Sony will do with the Vita, another is to rely on dev's wishes to support controllers or not. I'd imagine most RTS games and most MMO's are out right away for example. To be frank, I'd don't think anyone would play MMO's or RTS's on the Shield. Its aimed at those and I hate this word but console ports, games like Tomb Raider and Spec Ops. Games that work well with a controller, much like racers would be awesome on this.[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] That's pretty relative to what Nvidia expected to sell in the first place. Selling 200k instead of a 100k for example is a huge increase, but nothing to brag about. And as others have pointed out, the PC streaming is heavily dependent on games which are controller friendly.
Desmonic
I can't imagine this being anything but a very limited market. Doesn't appeal to the handheld gamer. Doesn't appeal to the hermits who love their PC gaming experience. Doesn't appeal to a mobile gamer who already have their android or iOS phones/tablets. It appeals to those PC gamers that like the handheld experience enough to pull the trigger on a pretty high price point. Unless hermits do just burn away money (despite claims they don't), I could never imagine it appealing to anything but a limited market.
Watch it a sales flop in the same level as the Vita.[QUOTE="loco145"]
"Let's cut straight to the chase: Nvidia Shield is a superb, state-of-the-art handheld product."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-shield-review
RIP, Vita.
Desmonic
Well, much like the Vita, the real draw of this thing is going to be its ability to stream games from a meatier device (a PC), which isn't heavily dependent on install base.
At the right price, even I might get one solely to stream PC games.
Well let me see i'm a hermit and it does appeal to me after watching and reading a couple of reviews and youtube videos. As for the price considering the hardware ( tegra 4 the price is quite good actually ). Of course since this is a mainly gaming device and smartphone game library is still lacking ( though there are enough games to keep you busy and it gets better day by day ) $300 is a bit high but at $250 i would probably get oneI can't imagine this being anything but a very limited market. Doesn't appeal to the handheld gamer. Doesn't appeal to the hermits who love their PC gaming experience. Doesn't appeal to a mobile gamer who already have their android or iOS phones/tablets. It appeals to those PC gamers that like the handheld experience enough to pull the trigger on a pretty high price point. Unless hermits do just burn away money (despite claims they don't), I could never imagine it appealing to anything but a limited market.
lx_theo
The issue here is that this thing looks un-appealing and that there are cheaper/more useful alternatives to portable gaming out there.
It's otherwise not a bad "first try" for Nvidia to enter the portable gaming/handheld console market and not a complete flop either. (200K units sold at launch is decent)
This market will certainly evolve further in the future and perhaps even start to rival home consoles.
but in many cases we can see that the games are not optimised for the platform, and that's a key disadvantage compared to dedicated mobile gaming platforms like the Nintendo 3DS or the PlayStation Vita.
[QUOTE="lx_theo"]Well let me see i'm a hermit and it does appeal to me after watching and reading a couple of reviews and youtube videos. As for the price considering the hardware ( tegra 4 the price is quite good actually ). Of course since this is a mainly gaming device and smartphone game library is still lacking ( though there are enough games to keep you busy and it gets better day by day ) $300 is a bit high but at $250 i would probably get one You might want to explain why it appeals to you before you make anymore claims.I can't imagine this being anything but a very limited market. Doesn't appeal to the handheld gamer. Doesn't appeal to the hermits who love their PC gaming experience. Doesn't appeal to a mobile gamer who already have their android or iOS phones/tablets. It appeals to those PC gamers that like the handheld experience enough to pull the trigger on a pretty high price point. Unless hermits do just burn away money (despite claims they don't), I could never imagine it appealing to anything but a limited market.
adamosmaki
"Let's cut straight to the chase: Nvidia Shield is a superb, state-of-the-art handheld product."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-shield-review
RIP, Vita.
loco145
how did vita fail? sales/games matter. however i'm happy it did well, more competition is better :)
I can't imagine this being anything but a very limited market. Doesn't appeal to the handheld gamer. Doesn't appeal to the hermits who love their PC gaming experience. Doesn't appeal to a mobile gamer who already have their android or iOS phones/tablets. It appeals to those PC gamers that like the handheld experience enough to pull the trigger on a pretty high price point. Unless hermits do just burn away money (despite claims they don't), I could never imagine it appealing to anything but a limited market.
lx_theo
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Can you explain why it doesn't appeal to handheld or hermits?
[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
I can't imagine this being anything but a very limited market. Doesn't appeal to the handheld gamer. Doesn't appeal to the hermits who love their PC gaming experience. Doesn't appeal to a mobile gamer who already have their android or iOS phones/tablets. It appeals to those PC gamers that like the handheld experience enough to pull the trigger on a pretty high price point. Unless hermits do just burn away money (despite claims they don't), I could never imagine it appealing to anything but a limited market.
TheFadeForever
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Can you explain why it doesn't appeal to handheld or hermits?
It won't have a dedicated handheld lineup (just mobile games and streaming). So handheld gamers won't find much point to owning one. A hermit is a person who prefers the PC gaming experiences already. They'd prefer being able to use keyboard and such over the handheld experience in the first place, so the only point to get one would be to say they are capable of doing it/the novelty factor and not using it almost ever. And if a person does that, then they'd just be an idiot who is burning away their money.The people it would appeal to would be people who actually prefer the handheld experience, but prefer the gaming scene on PC over handheld lineups. A specific, limited market.
Satisfied, local idiot hermit #2?
[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]
[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
I can't imagine this being anything but a very limited market. Doesn't appeal to the handheld gamer. Doesn't appeal to the hermits who love their PC gaming experience. Doesn't appeal to a mobile gamer who already have their android or iOS phones/tablets. It appeals to those PC gamers that like the handheld experience enough to pull the trigger on a pretty high price point. Unless hermits do just burn away money (despite claims they don't), I could never imagine it appealing to anything but a limited market.
lx_theo
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Can you explain why it doesn't appeal to handheld or hermits?
It won't have a dedicated handheld lineup (just mobile games and streaming). So handheld gamers won't find much point to owning one. A hermit is a person who prefers the PC gaming experiences already. They'd prefer being able to use keyboard and such over the handheld experience in the first place, so the only point to get one would be to say they are capable of doing it/the novelty factor and not using it almost ever. And if a person does that, then they'd just be an idiot who is burning away their money.The people it would appeal to would be people who actually prefer the handheld experience, but prefer the gaming scene on PC over handheld lineups. A specific, limited market.
Satisfied, local idiot hermit #2?
Great calling me an idiot an idiot hermit thank you for the paragraph you wrote. You forget that a hermit could be interested in it and want to buy because it streams pc games using the Nvidia grid.
It won't have a dedicated handheld lineup (just mobile games and streaming). So handheld gamers won't find much point to owning one. A hermit is a person who prefers the PC gaming experiences already. They'd prefer being able to use keyboard and such over the handheld experience in the first place, so the only point to get one would be to say they are capable of doing it/the novelty factor and not using it almost ever. And if a person does that, then they'd just be an idiot who is burning away their money.[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]
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Can you explain why it doesn't appeal to handheld or hermits?
TheFadeForever
The people it would appeal to would be people who actually prefer the handheld experience, but prefer the gaming scene on PC over handheld lineups. A specific, limited market.
Satisfied, local idiot hermit #2?
Great calling me an idiot an idiot hermit thank you for the paragraph you wrote. You forget that a hermit could be interested in it and want to buy because it streams pc games using the Nvidia grid.
Except, local idiot hermit #2, the Shield is not needed to use Nvidia Grid. Why would a hermit who doesn't prefer the handheld experience opt for said handheld experience when experiences nearer to PC gaming are available? Especially at that price.[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] It won't have a dedicated handheld lineup (just mobile games and streaming). So handheld gamers won't find much point to owning one. A hermit is a person who prefers the PC gaming experiences already. They'd prefer being able to use keyboard and such over the handheld experience in the first place, so the only point to get one would be to say they are capable of doing it/the novelty factor and not using it almost ever. And if a person does that, then they'd just be an idiot who is burning away their money.
The people it would appeal to would be people who actually prefer the handheld experience, but prefer the gaming scene on PC over handheld lineups. A specific, limited market.
Satisfied, local idiot hermit #2?
lx_theo
Great calling me an idiot an idiot hermit thank you for the paragraph you wrote. You forget that a hermit could be interested in it and want to buy because it streams pc games using the Nvidia grid.
Except, local idiot hermit #2, the Shield is not needed to use Nvidia Grid. Why would a hermit who doesn't prefer the handheld experience opt for said handheld experience when experiences nearer to PC gaming are available? Especially at that price.When did I say the shield is needed to use Nvidia Grid he can use the grid on the shield and play the games in different location on the go instead of relying on his pc at home which will require a certain Nvidia card to stream the game. Assuming that there aren't any hermits that doesn't like the handheld experience?
Except, local idiot hermit #2, the Shield is not needed to use Nvidia Grid. Why would a hermit who doesn't prefer the handheld experience opt for said handheld experience when experiences nearer to PC gaming are available? Especially at that price.[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]
Great calling me an idiot an idiot hermit thank you for the paragraph you wrote. You forget that a hermit could be interested in it and want to buy because it streams pc games using the Nvidia grid.
TheFadeForever
When did I say the shield is needed to use Nvidia Grid he can use the grid on the shield and play the games in different location instead of relying on his pc at home which will require a certain Nvidia card to stream the game. Assuming that there aren't any hermits that doesn't like the handheld experience?
I never said you said it was needed. Only that that fact makes your argument that much more stupid. And I must say again, a hermit is someone who prefers the PC gaming experience over the handheld gaming experience. When options are available to play in different locations that more closely match PC gaming experience, why would a person choose the handheld gaming experience over that? Especially at that price. It appeals to someone who really doesn't care for the PC gaming experience all that much, but like the gaming scene on it. That's not a hermit since they are just putting up with PC gaming because it has the games they want. Its almost like I've said this three times now. And you wonder why i call you local idiot hermit #2?[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Except, local idiot hermit #2, the Shield is not needed to use Nvidia Grid. Why would a hermit who doesn't prefer the handheld experience opt for said handheld experience when experiences nearer to PC gaming are available? Especially at that price.lx_theo
When did I say the shield is needed to use Nvidia Grid he can use the grid on the shield and play the games in different location instead of relying on his pc at home which will require a certain Nvidia card to stream the game. Assuming that there aren't any hermits that doesn't like the handheld experience?
I never said you said it was needed. Only that that fact makes your argument that much more stupid. And I must say again, a hermit is someone who prefers the PC gaming experience over the handheld gaming experience. When options are available to play in different locations that more closely match PC gaming experience, why would a person choose the handheld gaming experience over that? Especially at that price. It appeals to someone who really doesn't care for the PC gaming experience all that much, but like the gaming scene on it. That's not a hermit since they are just putting up with PC gaming because it has the games they want. Its almost like I've said this three times now. And you wonder why i call you local idiot hermit #2?Yea because my argument was stupid right?When it can stream pc games on the go and that its portable which can appeal to certain groups of people. Being a hermit doesn't mean he/she can't like the handheld experience especially when it is capable of streaming pc games on the go my friend is a hardcore pc gamer doesn't own any other gaming platform or like them and he pre order the shield.
I never said you said it was needed. Only that that fact makes your argument that much more stupid. And I must say again, a hermit is someone who prefers the PC gaming experience over the handheld gaming experience. When options are available to play in different locations that more closely match PC gaming experience, why would a person choose the handheld gaming experience over that? Especially at that price. It appeals to someone who really doesn't care for the PC gaming experience all that much, but like the gaming scene on it. That's not a hermit since they are just putting up with PC gaming because it has the games they want. Its almost like I've said this three times now. And you wonder why i call you local idiot hermit #2?[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]
When did I say the shield is needed to use Nvidia Grid he can use the grid on the shield and play the games in different location instead of relying on his pc at home which will require a certain Nvidia card to stream the game. Assuming that there aren't any hermits that doesn't like the handheld experience?
TheFadeForever
Yea because my argument was stupid right?When it can stream pc games on the go and that its portable. Being a hermit doesn't mean he/she can't like the handheld experience especially when it can stream pc games on the go my friend is a hardcore pc gamer doesn't own any other gaming platform and he pre order the shield.
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Again. Don't know if you're too stupid to understand it, or you're just ignoring it.
[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]
[QUOTE="lx_theo"] I never said you said it was needed. Only that that fact makes your argument that much more stupid. And I must say again, a hermit is someone who prefers the PC gaming experience over the handheld gaming experience. When options are available to play in different locations that more closely match PC gaming experience, why would a person choose the handheld gaming experience over that? Especially at that price. It appeals to someone who really doesn't care for the PC gaming experience all that much, but like the gaming scene on it. That's not a hermit since they are just putting up with PC gaming because it has the games they want. Its almost like I've said this three times now. And you wonder why i call you local idiot hermit #2?lx_theo
Yea because my argument was stupid right?When it can stream pc games on the go and that its portable. Being a hermit doesn't mean he/she can't like the handheld experience especially when it can stream pc games on the go my friend is a hardcore pc gamer doesn't own any other gaming platform and he pre order the shield.
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Again. Don't know if you're too stupid to understand it, or you're just ignoring it.
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well the shield appeals to me an I'm a hermit :P
[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]
Yea because my argument was stupid right?When it can stream pc games on the go and that its portable. Being a hermit doesn't mean he/she can't like the handheld experience especially when it can stream pc games on the go my friend is a hardcore pc gamer doesn't own any other gaming platform and he pre order the shield.
DarthRamms
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Again. Don't know if you're too stupid to understand it, or you're just ignoring it.
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well the shield appeals to me an I'm a hermit :P
And yet again a hermit who doesn't (or maybe even can't) explain why.[QUOTE="DarthRamms"][QUOTE="lx_theo"]
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Again. Don't know if you're too stupid to understand it, or you're just ignoring it.
lx_theo
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well the shield appeals to me an I'm a hermit :P
And yet again a hermit who doesn't (or maybe even can't) explain why.Â
why should I to you :roll:
[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
[QUOTE="TheFadeForever"]
Yea because my argument was stupid right?When it can stream pc games on the go and that its portable. Being a hermit doesn't mean he/she can't like the handheld experience especially when it can stream pc games on the go my friend is a hardcore pc gamer doesn't own any other gaming platform and he pre order the shield.
DarthRamms
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Again. Don't know if you're too stupid to understand it, or you're just ignoring it.
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well the shield appeals to me an I'm a hermit :P
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all hermits have the same mindset and think alike :cool:
And yet again a hermit who doesn't (or maybe even can't) explain why.[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="DarthRamms"]
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well the shield appeals to me an I'm a hermit :P
DarthRamms
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why should I to you :roll:
Because no other hermits have proposed a logical reason to demonstrate that hermits who it appeal to are actually hermits and not complete ignoramuses that burn through money. It seems your reluctance to even speak briefly on why would be fair enough reason to think you cannot think of any reason to defend it that can hold up to logical scrutiny.[QUOTE="DarthRamms"]
[QUOTE="lx_theo"]
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Again. Don't know if you're too stupid to understand it, or you're just ignoring it.
TheFadeForever
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well the shield appeals to me an I'm a hermit :P
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all hermits have the same mindset and think alike :cool:
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the shield won't appeal to all hermits but its not every single one think the pc gaming is so god like they won't try anythign else
[QUOTE="DarthRamms"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] And yet again a hermit who doesn't (or maybe even can't) explain why.lx_theo
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why should I to you :roll:
Because no other hermits have proposed a logical reason to demonstrate that hermits who it appeal to are actually hermits and not complete ignoramuses that burn through money. It seems your reluctance to even speak briefly on why would be fair enough reason to think you cannot think of any reason to defend it that can hold up to logical scrutiny.Â
ok here my reason I like the idea of streaming pc games since with the Grid it will be capable of streaming games I also used to play andriod games a lot so I'm quite interested in getting back to android gaming also I travel alot
Because no other hermits have proposed a logical reason to demonstrate that hermits who it appeal to are actually hermits and not complete ignoramuses that burn through money. It seems your reluctance to even speak briefly on why would be fair enough reason to think you cannot think of any reason to defend it that can hold up to logical scrutiny.[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="DarthRamms"]
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why should I to you :roll:
DarthRamms
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ok here my reason I like the idea of streaming pc games since with the Grid it will be capable of streaming games I also used to play andriod games a lot so I'm quite interested in getting back to android gaming also I travel alot
The system used to stream games to Grid can be done on many other devices (including laptops and other computers that are not portable that all provide a PC gaming experience). And android gaming is easily done from your phone. Why would you buy a whole new device? Unless you are ignoring logic, the only logical reason would be that a person prefers the handheld experience over the PC experience, no? Its not like someone who prefers the PC experience would buy a whole new device for the experience they don't prefer when they can already do it in the experience they prefer. And its not like a person won't have their phone on them. Again, that argument does not hold up to logical scrutiny.[QUOTE="DarthRamms"][QUOTE="lx_theo"] Because no other hermits have proposed a logical reason to demonstrate that hermits who it appeal to are actually hermits and not complete ignoramuses that burn through money. It seems your reluctance to even speak briefly on why would be fair enough reason to think you cannot think of any reason to defend it that can hold up to logical scrutiny. lx_theo
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ok here my reason I like the idea of streaming pc games since with the Grid it will be capable of streaming games I also used to play andriod games a lot so I'm quite interested in getting back to android gaming also I travel alot
The system used to stream games to Grid can be done on many other devices (including laptops and other computers that are not portable that all provide a PC gaming experience). And android gaming is easily done from your phone. Why would you buy a whole new device? Unless you are ignoring logic, the only logical reason would be that a person prefers the handheld experience over the PC experience, no? Its not like someone who prefers the PC experience would buy a whole new device for the experience they don't prefer when they can already do it in the experience they prefer. And its not like a person won't have their phone on them. Again, that argument does not hold up to logical scrutiny.Â
There are android games I can't play on my phone note the shield is using a powerful processor that can produce better looking game than your typical cell phone which nvidia said will have games titles that will use its power. I have a old labtop not comfortable for gaming many times when traveling I prefer it small and I really like the way they design it looks easy and comfortable to play games on than a cellphone.
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