Did any other console dev ever go from Frist to Last Place like Sony?

I'm trying to think if this was the biggest fall in history. I was thinking Nintendo with the N64, but they went from first with SNES to 2nd with N64, I guess the GC was eventually third but that took 2 generations for Nintendo to fall that low. Sony got the last place prize in just one generation. So has anyone ever fallen as pitifully far as Sony has in just one generation? groverslanding

[QUOTE="groverslanding"]I'm trying to think if this was the biggest fall in history. I was thinking Nintendo with the N64, but they went from first with SNES to 2nd with N64, I guess the GC was eventually third but that took 2 generations for Nintendo to fall that low. Sony got the last place prize in just one generation. So has anyone ever fallen as pitifully far as Sony has in just one generation? WilliamRLBaker

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

The generation isn't over yet.

The generation isn't over yet.

Shewgenja

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="groverslanding"]I'm trying to think if this was the biggest fall in history. I was thinking Nintendo with the N64, but they went from first with SNES to 2nd with N64, I guess the GC was eventually third but that took 2 generations for Nintendo to fall that low. Sony got the last place prize in just one generation. So has anyone ever fallen as pitifully far as Sony has in just one generation? vtoshkatur

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

The generation isn't over yet.

groverslanding

but still fighting via controlling its fanbase via exclusives

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] I would the closest would be ninty we had the n64 then the gamecube.WilliamRLBaker

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

I didn't mean you particularly. I meant that to the whole SW community. There seems to be a lot of Nintendo hate here.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

I didn't mean you particularly. I meant that to the whole SW community. There seems to be a lot of Nintendo hate here.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

vtoshkatur

I didn't mean you particularly. I meant that to the whole SW community. There seems to be a lot of Nintendo hate here.

It's because a lot of people don't "get" the magic of Nintendo.

It's very hard to if you're a seasoned gamer who has a particular viewpoint of what gaming "should" be like.

It's also very hard for people to conceptualize why a grown man shouldlike Nintendo.

After all, they are a company who aims the majority of their games at kids.

Post made by a Xbox fan?

Last time I checked this generation is not over? (Not by a long shot)

Second your trying to make it sound like Sony has done sooooo bad, when Xbox has only sold about 3 million consoles more, when it came to the market one year before selling like 6-8 million consoles before the PS3 was even in the shops?. How is 64ish million great the 'king' when 61ish is end of the world when its been on the market 12months less?

Well, Atari went from first (2600) to last (7800) and eventually failed quite miserably (Jaguar) and dropped out, Sega was almost first (MD 1992) but burned themselves quite badly (32X, Saturn) and couldn't keep competing financially anymore (Dreamcast) and dropped out and Nintendo went from first (NES, SNES) to far-behind 2nd (N64) and last (GameCube). So yea, almost every successful console company was at it's low point at some time.

AtariShadowDeathX

Yep, it's what happens when brands rely on their name alone and don't innovate.

Nintendo failed hard after the SNES(sales wise). Sega failed so bad they stopped making consoles. Atari Went from top of the ladder to the sewer with the 2600 and 7800. So the answer to your question is yes. Sony is actually doing pretty good considering the not masses friendly entry price and year hiatus. They did a good job turning a potential fail into a success. No it is not PS1 or PS2 success, but no one has ever been cream of the crop three generations in a row. Sony was fated to falter.

[QUOTE="groverslanding"][QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

The generation isn't over yet.

majestix1988

but still fighting via controlling its fanbase via exclusives

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

vtoshkatur

Console peasant

But you had fun tho right? It was fun times.

And still is for some people.

You have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Clearly Nintendo was the top hardware and software game developer from the early 90s till Sony released the PS1 and then the PS2, they lost badly but still kept momentum, stayed releasing games...

Nintendo

[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

ZombieKiller7

Console peasant

But you had fun tho right? It was fun times.

And still is for some people.

LOL consoles used to be so good. It's just this gen that consoles are so terrabad that the only real option this gen was to go PC only. (I've played games on PC since 2000 but I also played consoles too. Not this gen though, consoles suck the big one this gen and deep down you know it.)

SONY was never in "Frist" place.

Ninty had lower sales numbers for their consoles in the previous two gens.

Post made by a Xbox fan?

Last time I checked this generation is not over? (Not by a long shot)

Second your trying to make it sound like Sony has done sooooo bad, when Xbox has only sold about 3 million consoles more, when it came to the market one year before selling like 6-8 million consoles before the PS3 was even in the shops?. How is 64ish million great the 'king' when 61ish is end of the world when its been on the market 12months less?

Warrenshadow

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="groverslanding"]I'm trying to think if this was the biggest fall in history. I was thinking Nintendo with the N64, but they went from first with SNES to 2nd with N64, I guess the GC was eventually third but that took 2 generations for Nintendo to fall that low. Sony got the last place prize in just one generation. So has anyone ever fallen as pitifully far as Sony has in just one generation? vtoshkatur

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

dude the Gamecube was like the most hated console of Last Generation, It only got love for some odd reason this generation.

Microsoft went from second place to second place.

Sega went from tied with Nintendo to last place to dead.

Nintendo went from first to second to third to first.

Sony went from first to first to third.

[QUOTE="Warrenshadow"]

Post made by a Xbox fan?

Last time I checked this generation is not over? (Not by a long shot)

Second your trying to make it sound like Sony has done sooooo bad, when Xbox has only sold about 3 million consoles more, when it came to the market one year before selling like 6-8 million consoles before the PS3 was even in the shops?. How is 64ish million great the 'king' when 61ish is end of the world when its been on the market 12months less?

Frostbite24

Does sony still exist? GTerror666

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Warrenshadow"]

Post made by a Xbox fan?

Last time I checked this generation is not over? (Not by a long shot)

Second your trying to make it sound like Sony has done sooooo bad, when Xbox has only sold about 3 million consoles more, when it came to the market one year before selling like 6-8 million consoles before the PS3 was even in the shops?. How is 64ish million great the 'king' when 61ish is end of the world when its been on the market 12months less?

-ArchAngeL-777-

[QUOTE="GTerror666"]Does sony still exist? themajormayor

How about nintendo. Before SONY entered the console race didn't nintendo dominate its competition? Here's a question when was the last time a ms console was in first place?! :lol: I think I remember when the 360 was released too early and had NO competition. :lol:

The generation isn't over yet.

I love the GC, but the launch and game management was horrendous.

That being said, GC was a success in the fact it was profitable.

I don't think it's a big deal PS3 is in third place. It's not like the system has disappeared and has no good games supporting it.

It has some excellent games.

I wouldn't mind having one.

Microsoft went from second place to second place.

Sega went from tied with Nintendo to last place to dead.

Nintendo went from first to second to third to first.

Sony went from first to first to third.

NeonNinja

[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

The generation isn't over yet.

groverslanding

Let the cows dream..

I'm trying to think if this was the biggest fall in history. I was thinking Nintendo with the N64, but they went from first with SNES to 2nd with N64, I guess the GC was eventually third but that took 2 generations for Nintendo to fall that low. Sony got the last place prize in just one generation. So has anyone ever fallen as pitifully far as Sony has in just one generation? groverslanding

True, Sony is the first, but only because the N64 was helped by the disaster that was the saturn. So two consoles fell that gen but one fell much harder than the N64 which saved it from being last place.

Then again, no other console has also ever gone from selling consoles at $299 to $599 either. So it is logical that such an extreme price hike would be met by an equally extreme customer backlash. I love Sony and the PS brand and even I felt kicked in the teeth when they announced that launch price for the PS3. And being Canadian, that meant for a bit it was$649 until our dollar went up.

Even though I love the PS3 and still think it is the best console for me, Sony was stupid for thinking they could launch at that price. Apparantly their desperation to win the HD-DVD/BR battle was so great that they were willing to sacrifice the PS3. Stupid move I think.

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[QUOTE="vtoshkatur"]

What's with all the Gamecube hate? That's like my second favorite console ever after the SNES. (Honorable mentions go out to the Dreamcast)

vtoshkatur

Console peasant

But you had fun tho right? It was fun times.

And still is for some people.

LOL consoles used to be so good. It's just this gen that consoles are so terrabad that the only real option this gen was to go PC only. (I've played games on PC since 2000 but I also played consoles too. Not this gen though, consoles suck the big one this gen and deep down you know it.)

I don't get that.

Why do you feel this way?

The console games still exist alongside the more "PC" style titles, except now they are derided as "trash for casuals."

10 years ago you WERE that casual, waving around the Nintendo gun playing Duck Hunt, having a blast.

Now using a sharpshooter is beneath you?

Only thing that changed was your mood.

Funny thing is, ps3 would be in 2nd place if it came out at the same time as 360. Well, I hope you're talking about sales to begin with... ps3 is not 3rd place whatsoever in terms of quality.sethman410