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#1 Funkyhamster
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If you look at this Call of Duty 4 preview, it says you can play COD4 on "any next-gen platform--Xbox 360, Playstation 3, or PC" when it comes out. Note the lack of the Wii in that list.

I really hope GS didn't say this intentionally... while I agree to a certain extent with the people who say the Wii isn't a 'real' next-gen console, I don't want to see that kind of subjectiveness in GS's articles or reviews.

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#2 sexy_chimp
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Wow...
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#3 mingo123
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is cod4 coming out for Wii? i didnt know that
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#4 sexy_chimp
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is cod4 coming out for Wii? i didnt know thatmingo123

It says "ANY next gen-platform" that means you could get it on any next-gen platform. Since it's not on the Wii, their saying the Wii is not next-gen.

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#5 tbone29
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Maybe they say it's New-Gen too? :?
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#6 Legendaryscmt
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Even Nintendo said that the Wii isn't next gen, cause it doesn't run on next gen tech.
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#7 Rudi-Johnson
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I think we all know the difference between the real next gen consoles....and the ones that just happened to come out this gen...

Wii is pretty much the same as last gen, graphically its probably a little worse-the same, but with a new controller....it doesnt even allow "next-gen" games because developers cant use the great physics,graphics, AI and all of that...

Wii was fun for a few minutes....not it just sits on my shelf....havnt played it in months....waste of money

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#8 puissance000
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If you look at this Call of Duty 4 preview, it says you can play COD4 on "any next-gen platform--Xbox 360, Playstation 3, or PC" when it comes out. Note the lack of the Wii in that list.

I really hope GS didn't say this intentionally... while I agree to a certain extent with the people who say the Wii isn't a 'real' next-gen console, I don't want to see that kind of subjectiveness in GS's articles or reviews.

Funkyhamster

do u want them to lie? let's face it... the Wii doesn't have next gen graphics :roll:

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#9 darklord888
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The wii isn't next gen in the sence we are used to. It can't play any next-gen game it is pretty much a slightly more powerfulGCN with a newcontroller which is why it gets PS2 multiplats and not PS3, PC or 360 ones. They aren'tdissing it it is a simple fact.
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#10 Cassius128
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Why not just ask him instead of getting paranoid.
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#11 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]

If you look at this Call of Duty 4 preview, it says you can play COD4 on "any next-gen platform--Xbox 360, Playstation 3, or PC" when it comes out. Note the lack of the Wii in that list.

I really hope GS didn't say this intentionally... while I agree to a certain extent with the people who say the Wii isn't a 'real' next-gen console, I don't want to see that kind of subjectiveness in GS's articles or reviews.

puissance000

do u want them to lie? let's face it... the Wii doesn't have next gen graphics :roll:

Its not really a big problem. Wii already has 3 AAA's compared to the PS3's 1 AAA and its the most powerfuk system this gen. Excluding the PC

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#12 Number_1_Gamer
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How many times do we have to go over this?

The PS3, XBOX360, and Wii are all CURRENT-GEN consoles. "Next gen" consoles are consoles that will come out, you guessed it, NEXT GENERATION: PS4, Wii2, XBOX720, or whatever they are called.

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LOL. I like the Wii and all, but that is pretty funny.
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I wouldn't look too deeply into this.
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#15 Ragashahs
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didn't nitendo say themselves wii isn't nex gen?
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#16 heretrix
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Since the Wii isn't next gen I wouldn't worry about it too much.
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#17 sonic_rusher
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Some fools dont consider it a next gen console. Obviously some people at GS are not an exception.
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#18 Runningflame570
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Even Nintendo called it "new-gen" so yeah, even if they did you pretty much need to get over it.
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#19 bc1391
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Alot of gaming websites do that, not just GS.
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#21 sonic_rusher
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[QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]

If you look at this Call of Duty 4 preview, it says you can play COD4 on "any next-gen platform--Xbox 360, Playstation 3, or PC" when it comes out. Note the lack of the Wii in that list.

I really hope GS didn't say this intentionally... while I agree to a certain extent with the people who say the Wii isn't a 'real' next-gen console, I don't want to see that kind of subjectiveness in GS's articles or reviews.

puissance000

do u want them to lie? let's face it... the Wii doesn't have next gen graphics :roll:

Next gen graphics dont soley determine what is next gen about a console.

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#22 Hexagon_777
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I think we all know the difference between the real next gen consoles....and the ones that just happened to come out this gen...

Wii is pretty much the same as last gen, graphically its probably a little worse-the same, but with a new controller....it doesnt even allow "next-gen" games because developers cant use the great physics,graphics, AI and all of that...

Wii was fun for a few minutes....not it just sits on my shelf....havnt played it in months....waste of money

Rudi-Johnson

How does it not allow next-gen games? Games are meant to be played. Nintendo found a new way to play them. Every other "next-gen" console uses last-gen controllers, however. None of the 3 consoles are really next-gen.

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#23 subrosian
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The Wii is sold by Nintendo as a "new generation" platform, not a next-gen platform. I'm confused how using Nintendo's own preferred term is a diss.
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#24 KillaHalo2o9
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It is 7th Gen, but maybe not its hardware power .
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#25 subrosian
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[QUOTE="puissance000"][QUOTE="Funkyhamster"]

If you look at this Call of Duty 4 preview, it says you can play COD4 on "any next-gen platform--Xbox 360, Playstation 3, or PC" when it comes out. Note the lack of the Wii in that list.

I really hope GS didn't say this intentionally... while I agree to a certain extent with the people who say the Wii isn't a 'real' next-gen console, I don't want to see that kind of subjectiveness in GS's articles or reviews.

sonic_rusher

do u want them to lie? let's face it... the Wii doesn't have next gen graphics :roll:

Next gen graphics dont soley determine what is next gen about a console.



The Wii is a 7th generation console - that's it, but some distinction is made between the "next gen" and the "new gen" simply because of ease-of-portage. The difference in controller-function alone, plus the significant hardware differences (sleek and energy efficient vs big and powerful) would quality some kind of distinction.

Unless you're saying there's something *wrong* with being "new gen"?
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#26 TClms5400
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wii is a last gen console that somehow gets away with charging an extra $150 for a motion sensor
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#27 RedMarzBoy
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would you rather GS sugar coat it? 
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#28 sonic_rusher
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The Wii is sold by Nintendo as a "new generation" platform, not a next-gen platform. I'm confused how using Nintendo's own preferred term is a diss.subrosian

I dont think you understand. Iwata used that term to make Nintendo and its product look unique and special to the competition. Its purely genious and they are unique but Iwata is wrong if he really thinks Wii is not competing with the other consoles.

Besides that graphics whores have their own lingo, not to mention their own demented way of thinking. They seem to think that if the graphics are not the only thing that is advanced with a console then its bad. See PS3 and 360 are just Xbox and PS2 with nicer graphics. Wii has nice graphics and Wii is more next gen then its competitors as a whole.

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#29 M8ingSeezun
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The Wii is a hardware joke, it's not even funny. Pathetic really. It's no wonder SERIOUS 3rd party games are limited on Wii, most likely ending up like a crap half-ss port. Besides, Wii would implode and explode at the same time if it were to run CoD4.

Sheep need to face reality, 3rd party devs would rather make expensive epic games on better hardware that would easily express thier work, than on last gen hardware.

If there are more of the same kind of game on each platform, including for Wii, there's a problem for Wii, since it's hardware is severely limited and frankly, obsolete.

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#30 Mardil
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CoD4 coming to Wii confirmed!
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]The Wii is sold by Nintendo as a "new generation" platform, not a next-gen platform. I'm confused how using Nintendo's own preferred term is a diss.sonic_rusher

I dont think you understand. Iwata used that term to make Nintendo and its product look unique and special to the competition. Its purely genious and they are unique but Iwata is wrong if he really thinks Wii is not competing with the other consoles.

Besides that graphics whores have their own lingo, not to mention their own demented way of thinking. They seem to think that if the graphics are not the only thing that is advanced with a console then its bad. See PS3 and 360 are just Xbox and PS2 with nicer graphics. Wii has nice graphics and Wii is more next gen then its competitors as a whole.

Its not just graphics. AI, huge environments/enemies and physics also come to mind. 
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]The Wii is sold by Nintendo as a "new generation" platform, not a next-gen platform. I'm confused how using Nintendo's own preferred term is a diss.sonic_rusher

I dont think you understand. Iwata used that term to make Nintendo and its product look unique and special to the competition. Its purely genious and they are unique but Iwata is wrong if he really thinks Wii is not competing with the other consoles.

Besides that graphics whores have their own lingo, not to mention their own demented way of thinking. They seem to think that if the graphics are not the only thing that is advanced with a console then its bad. See PS3 and 360 are just Xbox and PS2 with nicer graphics. Wii has nice graphics and Wii is more next gen then its competitors as a whole.



Listen, any console gamer talking about "high-end graphics" is a bit of a laugh - strutting a fixed GPU is a bit like a high schooler showing off his *lone chest hair*, it's only noteable until Hairy Rodriguez shows up. The point is, I don't give two hoots about the why the 360 and PS3 fanboys want to knock the Wii in all of this, I'm simply saying I don't think GS meant it as an insult.

With all the Wii-hate in SW, I think you've forgotten that the journalists long ago stopped giving a **** , and the chances of them wasting their time with some subtle "Wii bashing" campaign are exactly nill. Gamespot can't exactly afford to piss off console gamers, and they wouldn't bother anyway.

See, comments like "more next gen then (sic) its competitors as a whole" are just stupid - they antagonize people and turn this into a dumb fight, when the point you wanted to convey is that they're all seventh generation consoles, with their own unique strengths and features to offer. Yadda yadda yadda, more hippy non-sense, et cetera, peace and love, Wii-praise ad nauseum.

Who cares, they're all seventh generation, but you can't have your cake and eat it to. It's either new gen or next gen, it's not a miraculous catch-all, and Nintendo doesn't market it as such. They long ago stopped catering to the kind of guy who's trying to show off his chest hairs in the locker room, and started trying to sell to his girlfriend, little sister, and mom. That's all well and good, and some pointless semantics debate doesn't change that "small, sexy, innovative, and sleek" plays different games than "big, monolothic, and powerful" - which is the point GS was conveying.

In fact, isn't that the point you were trying to make? That the Wii does something different? So again, how is being treated differently than the "old standard" be an *insult*?
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#33 flintgijoe
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If you look at this Call of Duty 4 preview, it says you can play COD4 on "any next-gen platform--Xbox 360, Playstation 3, or PC" when it comes out. Note the lack of the Wii in that list.

I really hope GS didn't say this intentionally... while I agree to a certain extent with the people who say the Wii isn't a 'real' next-gen console, I don't want to see that kind of subjectiveness in GS's articles or reviews.

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Funny sensitive sheep.

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#35 XenoNinja
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Well actually, the Wii is the only next-gen console, and the others are current gen.

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#36 Hitamaru-homia
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Yeah,thats kinda harsh. i guess its techincal wise ...
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#37 Runningflame570
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Next gen graphics dont soley determine what is next gen about a console.

sonic_rusher

There are some general expectations for next-gen systems and the Wii with its overclocked GeForce4 doesn't meet them.

See PS3 and 360 are just Xbox and PS2 with nicer graphics. Wii has nice graphics and Wii is more next gen then its competitors as a whole.

sonic_rusher

No the PS3 and Xbox 360 have graphics, audio, physics, ONLINE and generally everything else that are head over heels superior to the Wii. All the Wii has is it's control scheme (and I still am waiting for a Wii game to come out that proves the Wii's simplified control scheme is superior).

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#39 trizzle_a
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Well actually, the Wii is the only next-gen console, and the others are current gen.

XenoNinja

You best be joking.

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#40 V_Isle
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Well, they're right.
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#41 XenoNinja
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[QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

Well actually, the Wii is the only next-gen console, and the others are current gen.

trizzle_a

You best be joking.

you best better believe it.

the Wii >>>>> all consoles in the history of gaming.

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[QUOTE="subrosian"]The Wii is sold by Nintendo as a "new generation" platform, not a next-gen platform. I'm confused how using Nintendo's own preferred term is a diss.sonic_rusher

I dont think you understand. Iwata used that term to make Nintendo and its product look unique and special to the competition. Its purely genious and they are unique but Iwata is wrong if he really thinks Wii is not competing with the other consoles.

Besides that graphics whores have their own lingo, not to mention their own demented way of thinking. They seem to think that if the graphics are not the only thing that is advanced with a console then its bad. See PS3 and 360 are just Xbox and PS2 with nicer graphics. Wii has nice graphics and Wii is more next gen then its competitors as a whole.

And Wii is nothing more than an overclocked Gamecube with a gimmicky remote.......an input device that's suppose to be a new way of playing games, yet, ironically, it hasn't even proven itself in ALL GENRES.

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#43 M8ingSeezun
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[QUOTE="trizzle_a"][QUOTE="XenoNinja"]

Well actually, the Wii is the only next-gen console, and the others are current gen.

XenoNinja

You best be joking.

you best better believe it.

the Wii >>>>> all consoles in the history of gaming.

Layoff the glue, kid :lol:

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#44 dieworm
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Next gen has nothing to do with graphical power.
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#45 KungfuKitten
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Nintendo said new gen, not next gen. Don't blame them so fast.
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#46 MoldOnHold
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It's not a diss. The Wii is too different from the competition to classify it as the same type of console.
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#47 chansaet
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well this pretty much confrims that gamespot hates the wii.
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#48 Video_Game_King
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They openly dissed it by saying that Brawl could come out in 08. Nobody just stumbles upon that little picture, they searched for it. And they put Brawl under TBA, as if it were just announced this TGS. I know they have a TBD, I've seen it before.
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#49 ajax_on_fire
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We all know wii isnt next gen, i still have one, play it once every couple months
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#50 -CheeseEater-
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Holy crap, for gods sake, the 360, PS3 are not next gen. Next gens the PS4, Xbox 720 etc. etc.

I think it's time for GS to take a hard look at themselfs, Nintendo has gone on a fantastic new route this time around, changing it up, making something happen. They need to be congratulated for it, not be shamed...:|