did microsoft know in the beginning

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

Mine has not had any problems. It was bought on release day too.

The XBox 360 and PS3 were both rushed. X360 had hardware issues while the PS3 had software issues. The only console that had mininal signs of being rushed was the Wii, but in compensation it can't keep up with demand.

they knew about it, but i feel they didnt even care . and that is sad, but oh well maybe next gen they will get it right. and the funny thing is xbox was an awesome machine with no problems, then their 2nd machine is ticking time bomb waiting to explode. how can they go from being good with their product , to bad. oh well

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that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

patrickjw333

[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

Sdur001

Agreed

[QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

Sdur001

Microsoft knew but they had to release the system first than sony and nintendo. Today xbox 360 haves more games which obligates people to get a 360

[QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

lt-rickhunter

[QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

lt-rickhunter

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

I already have my flame suit on so no worries but let me put a disclaimer: I say this in regard to best system in general not the best system for ME. PC is my "drug of choice" and it isbecause of CS:S and keyboard and mouse support being STANDARD. I actually also have a PS3 and would LIKE to see that do much better.

However, The reality of the situation is that the 360 has had consistently great games from its launch to NOW. I remember putting in COD2, PGR3 and being very happy with the overall package. Then Fight Night GRAW and Gears of War really showed a good leap in progress. These are just games I had (i know there are many more showcases like oblivion etc). My friend said "the 360 is similar to the dreamcast in quality of games but over a longer period of time." I reflected on that and agree. Now there is Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, and many other AAA games out there.

Love it or hate it (and I hate the 3 rings of death though it hasn't happened to me yet and other issues with the system) but it really is turning out to be an amazing system with amazing games.

patrickjw333

how can a system with a 33% failure rate be the best system ever :lol:

[QUOTE="lt-rickhunter"][QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

neogeo419

[QUOTE="neogeo419"][QUOTE="lt-rickhunter"][QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

lt-rickhunter

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

patrickjw333

They rushed it out with out doing thorough QC. The RROD issue has been addressed. The new system being released now have the new heat_sink copper connection and a cooler CPU that doesn't overheat. M$ next step with be to include a cooler GPU chip and that should get rid of the RROD permanently.

[QUOTE="lt-rickhunter"][QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

Sdur001

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

I already have my flame suit on so no worries but let me put a disclaimer: I say this in regard to best system in general not the best system for ME. PC is my "drug of choice" and it isbecause of CS:S and keyboard and mouse support being STANDARD. I actually also have a PS3 and would LIKE to see that do much better.

However, The reality of the situation is that the 360 has had consistently great games from its launch to NOW. I remember putting in COD2, PGR3 and being very happy with the overall package. Then Fight Night GRAW and Gears of War really showed a good leap in progress. These are just games I had (i know there are many more showcases like oblivion etc). My friend said "the 360 is similar to the dreamcast in quality of games but over a longer period of time." I reflected on that and agree. Now there is Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, and many other AAA games out there.

Love it or hate it (and I hate the 3 rings of death though it hasn't happened to me yet and other issues with the system) but it really is turning out to be an amazing system with amazing games.

patrickjw333

how can a system with a 33% failure rate be the best system ever :lol:

its around 4% now, do your homework =)

[QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="lt-rickhunter"][QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

SaintsRowSam

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

I already have my flame suit on so no worries but let me put a disclaimer: I say this in regard to best system in general not the best system for ME. PC is my "drug of choice" and it isbecause of CS:S and keyboard and mouse support being STANDARD. I actually also have a PS3 and would LIKE to see that do much better.

However, The reality of the situation is that the 360 has had consistently great games from its launch to NOW. I remember putting in COD2, PGR3 and being very happy with the overall package. Then Fight Night GRAW and Gears of War really showed a good leap in progress. These are just games I had (i know there are many more showcases like oblivion etc). My friend said "the 360 is similar to the dreamcast in quality of games but over a longer period of time." I reflected on that and agree. Now there is Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, and many other AAA games out there.

Love it or hate it (and I hate the 3 rings of death though it hasn't happened to me yet and other issues with the system) but it really is turning out to be an amazing system with amazing games.

patrickjw333

how can a system with a 33% failure rate be the best system ever :lol:

its around 4% now, do your homework =)

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=c3b25467-6b74-410a-907a-a05676bb0a5c

[QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="lt-rickhunter"][QUOTE="Sdur001"][QUOTE="patrickjw333"]

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

SaintsRowSam

[QUOTE="Dave_NBF"]

I already have my flame suit on so no worries but let me put a disclaimer: I say this in regard to best system in general not the best system for ME. PC is my "drug of choice" and it isbecause of CS:S and keyboard and mouse support being STANDARD. I actually also have a PS3 and would LIKE to see that do much better.

However, The reality of the situation is that the 360 has had consistently great games from its launch to NOW. I remember putting in COD2, PGR3 and being very happy with the overall package. Then Fight Night GRAW and Gears of War really showed a good leap in progress. These are just games I had (i know there are many more showcases like oblivion etc). My friend said "the 360 is similar to the dreamcast in quality of games but over a longer period of time." I reflected on that and agree. Now there is Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, and many other AAA games out there.

Love it or hate it (and I hate the 3 rings of death though it hasn't happened to me yet and other issues with the system) but it really is turning out to be an amazing system with amazing games.

patrickjw333

how can a system with a 33% failure rate be the best system ever :lol:

its around 4% now, do your homework =)

yea i definatley want a link for that one. It hasnt even been a month since the new so called "Falcon chips" i highly doubt its at 4%

Microsoft knew but they had to release the system first than sony and nintendo. Today xbox 360 haves more games which obligates people to get a 360

youmademyday

that the 360 had all these problems? disc scratching, rrod, overheating. i have the system ( although im on my 4th one ) did microsoft ignore these problems to launch first and it's been 2 years why no fix yet it seems to be getting worse. what do you guys think

patrickjw333

I started asking around to determine how many people were having problems. Turns out EVERY Xbox 360 owner I contacted had either experienced the red rings, or knew at least one person who did. Some have even had problems with their replaced, "repaired" consoles. (Although when I sent out threads in some chatrooms about this, I got some very nasty responses--I was even accused of being a "Sony Fanboy" posing as a journalist!) Microsoft won't say how many consoles are being sent back to be refurbished, but some retailers speculate it could be 30 percent.

The bold made me laugh.

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=c3b25467-6b74-410a-907a-a05676bb0a5c

I started asking around to determine how many people were having problems. Turns out EVERY Xbox 360 owner I contacted had either experienced the red rings, or knew at least one person who did. Some have even had problems with their replaced, "repaired" consoles. (Although when I sent out threads in some chatrooms about this, I got some very nasty responses--I was even accused of being a "Sony Fanboy" posing as a journalist!) Microsoft won't say how many consoles are being sent back to be refurbished, but some retailers speculate it could be 30 percent.

The bold made me laugh.

Pajamasalad

Odd, I do not have a problem nor know of anyone that does with an X360.

[QUOTE="Pajamasalad"]http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=c3b25467-6b74-410a-907a-a05676bb0a5c

I started asking around to determine how many people were having problems. Turns out EVERY Xbox 360 owner I contacted had either experienced the red rings, or knew at least one person who did. Some have even had problems with their replaced, "repaired" consoles. (Although when I sent out threads in some chatrooms about this, I got some very nasty responses--I was even accused of being a "Sony Fanboy" posing as a journalist!) Microsoft won't say how many consoles are being sent back to be refurbished, but some retailers speculate it could be 30 percent.

The bold made me laugh.

lightningbugx

Odd, I do not have a problem nor know of anyone that does with an X360.

I don't think it is 30% but I know two people who have gotten RROD. I know quite a bit of people who have 360s and those ones are working fine. If my bold didn't come out well it is the words in the parenthesis. .