Did The PS3 Kill The Metal Gear Franchise?

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#1 ReverseCycology
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So at E3 2007 Kojima presented a MGS4 trailer. He made sure to let everyone know that it was ingame and not just a movie. And at the end of his presentation he looked kinda sad and just didn't look happy presenting at the Sony conference, as he announced that this will be the last Metal Gear game that he'll make. So I was wondering why? Then it occured to me, it might be because of the PS3. I mean it is so difficult to develop for. I truly believe if MGS4 was being develop for the 360 or even PC it would've came out already. I believe Kojima had sleepless nights and worked his but off just to get this thing running on the PS3 hardware. I believe that the development difficulty of making a game on the PS3 discourage Kojima. I truly believe that MGS4 will be a next-gen masterpiece, but its just so sad that the PS3 made it to be the last from Kojima.

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#2 MikeE21286
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wow, that's fanboyism at it's pinnacle right there folks.
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#3 kayn83
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maybe the"master of storytelling" simply could no longer think of any ideas. He's a modern day Hemingway!
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#4 gamernaz
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I hope you do know, he has been the lead designer for the metal gear franchise for 20yrs. TIME TO MOVE ON!
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#5 The_Kills
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WOW....NO COMMENT!

HOW MUCH OF A FANBOY CAN U GET

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#6 tekmojo
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I mean one can make only so many masterpieces until they get exhausted. Each one of Kojima's games was like making a high production hollywood movie, then ontop of that, giving you the player the chance to be apart of the whole process. He may however have other plans downthe road, maybe he wants to try a different franchise...who knows.
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#7 jg4xchamp
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or because he missed the old E3. thats why he was sad. besides MGS 4 looks awesome.
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#8 funnymario
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I hope you don't honestly think that :|
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#9 jg4xchamp
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So at E3 2007 Kojima presented a MGS4 trailer. He made sure to let everyone know that it was ingame and not just a movie. And at the end of his presentation he looked kinda sad and just didn't look happy presenting at the Sony conference, as he announced that this will be the last Metal Gear game that he'll make. So I was wondering why? Then it occured to me, it might be because of the PS3. I mean it is so difficult to develop for. I truly believe if MGS4 was being develop for the 360 or even PC it would've came out already. I believe Kojima had sleepless nights and worked his but off just to get this thing running on the PS3 hardware. I believe that the development difficulty of making a game on the PS3 discourage Kojima. I truly believe that MGS4 will be a next-gen masterpiece, but its just so sad that the PS3 made it to be the last from Kojima.

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oh and why would u want MGS 5. so the story can drag on. Im glad he is ending it at 4. MGS 3 was a prequal. so really MGS, MGS 2, and MGS 4 are part of a great trilogy. Im happy with his decision and its time Kojima got to do something else. he wanted to a while back. But he stuck around to finish the MGS series.
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#10 porzdeadline
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yep one of lemmings finest... but anyways fanboys are a problem of every group so no need to generalize
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#11 jdang307
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Dude, I totally agree with you ReverseCycolog. IT was the same look I saw on Peyton Manning's face when he won the SuperBowl. It's too damn hard to win the Superbowl.

Lance Armstrong winning his consecutive TDF's. Do you know how hard those are?

Yeah, I mean, these experts/geniuses love it when their accomplishments come after minimal effort and low challenges.

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#12 NobuoMusicMaker
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Lol "He looks sad" maybe because you killed his puppy, lemming.
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#14 ArisShadows
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Lol "He looks sad" maybe because you killed his puppy, lemming.NobuoMusicMaker

???

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#15 FreakyDeacky2
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yes hes a crazy fanboy.

Random request!: can you name the song playing in the background of this video (and no forgods sake its not a rick roll its a 7-10 split in a baltimore bowling alley by an ameteur during a cosmic bowl) have 1 person check it to confirm it...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z_DljO6ehIc

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#16 MassEffector
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WTF IS A LEMMING!??
He is sad because his game wont sell anything on the PS3, and his wife is being held hostage to have it not come out on the 360.
Thats my theory.
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#17 Lazy_Boy88
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Are you freaking serious? This almost seems like a joke but you wrote too much.
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#19 archpro
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So at E3 2007 Kojima presented a MGS4 trailer. He made sure to let everyone know that it was ingame and not just a movie. And at the end of his presentation he looked kinda sad and just didn't look happy presenting at the Sony conference, as he announced that this will be the last Metal Gear game that he'll make. So I was wondering why? Then it occured to me, it might be because of the PS3. I mean it is so difficult to develop for. I truly believe if MGS4 was being develop for the 360 or even PC it would've came out already. I believe Kojima had sleepless nights and worked his but off just to get this thing running on the PS3 hardware. I believe that the development difficulty of making a game on the PS3 discourage Kojima. I truly believe that MGS4 will be a next-gen masterpiece, but its just so sad that the PS3 made it to be the last from Kojima.

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#20 jg4xchamp
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This is fanboyism hallucinations to a new level

you cant be serious in this thread, you know nothing about Kojima or MGS

1. Kojima loves the PS, its his home, we are his fanbase, he belives that only with the PS3 can he finalize his dream of MGS4 with Blu Ray in the cell, TGS05 proves that

2. Does it LOOK like Kojima is struggling with the PS3, hardware

3. the 2008 Release date can be for numerous reasons, if you watch the new trailer, look how many charachter models have been redesigned

4. This is the last MGS game because its TIME for their to be a last MGS game, the Story needs to end, the charachters are developed, everything is in place for a final grand finale chapter, MGS4 will be that chapter, and thankgod for it, we dont need 10 MGS games, we dont need milkage

5. Kojima wasnt "sad", what kind of nonsense is that, you arent truly sympathetic about feeling sorry for him, haha, thats just Kojimas "look", good for Kojima that its his last MGS game, now he can create a new masterpiece and not have MGS on his shoulders

hes not sad that MGS4 is his last game due to complex PS3 architechture

if MGS4 came out for 360 it be on 3 discs

ROAR!

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1st 3 discs is no problem to me. because MGS 1 was the best MGS. 2 discs there pal. ALso i agree 90%. i also disagree with the not sad part. Kojima was sad. he was sad at the new E3. rememebr he was the only dev to bring out in public he missed the old E3. Thats why he was sad at this E3. Dude only knew one E3 and suddenly that was gone. He misses the booth babes and honestly do u blame him, do i blame him, can we as americans, and europeans, and asians, and africans, and mexicans, and even autobots not feel Kojimas pain for booth babes.
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#21 solidte
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Uhh wouldn't making it on the PC just take longer, with PC's you have to optimised for various types of hardware, the PS3 only has one type of hardware in the box so i am sure it would be easier.
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#22 -Sir-Poof-
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You have officially surpassed Bluebrad as the biggest lemming here!

Congrats?

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#23 Solid_Snake1221
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This is the most fanboyish/ bias statement I've ever read. :|
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#24 YEZZER
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oh my gosh....shacks head, the tc cant before real this has to be a joke. no one can be that dumb, on the internet...........can they?
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#25 gregolian
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good grief... kojima has had sleepless nights because he is a damn good game developer.... nuff said.
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#26 -Sir-Poof-
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oh my gosh....shacks head, the tc cant before real this has to be a joke. no one can be that dumb, on the internet...........can they?YEZZER

Ive seen too many of his post to know this is in fact his true feelings.

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#27 henry_the_horse
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So at E3 2007 Kojima presented a MGS4 trailer. He made sure to let everyone know that it was ingame and not just a movie. And at the end of his presentation he looked kinda sad and just didn't look happy presenting at the Sony conference, as he announced that this will be the last Metal Gear game that he'll make. So I was wondering why? Then it occured to me, it might be because of the PS3. I mean it is so difficult to develop for. I truly believe if MGS4 was being develop for the 360 or even PC it would've came out already. I believe Kojima had sleepless nights and worked his but off just to get this thing running on the PS3 hardware. I believe that the development difficulty of making a game on the PS3 discourage Kojima. I truly believe that MGS4 will be a next-gen masterpiece, but its just so sad that the PS3 made it to be the last from Kojima.

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Maybe you should kill yourself.

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#28 Mandingo101
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lemmings have hit a new low. :|
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#29 wemhim
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WOW! No, it's because the story has been going on for a long time, Snake suffers from Accelerated Aging and hasn't got a long time, the second clearly ended with it hinting at an end for the next chronological edition, the fact is, MGS needs to end some time.
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#30 wemhim
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lemmings have hit a new low. :|Mandingo101
Honestly, I don't think any fanboy deserves to be associated with this, this goes beyond fanboy.
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#31 bushidotu
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he been saying its going to be his last mgs 2 games ago but look he still making mgs games
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#32 0rin
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[QUOTE="Mandingo101"]lemmings have hit a new low. :|wemhim
Honestly, I don't think any fanboy deserves to be associated with this, this goes beyond fanboy.



I agree. This is a hop, skip, jump, and cross-country run past the line separating fanboys from the mentaly handicapped.
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#33 ReverseCycology
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Too bad he didn't end the Metal Gear franchise with a bang by bringing it on a platform with a bigger userbase, the 360 or PC, heck even the Wii.

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#34 asdasd
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Wow.. just wow..

I dont even know what to say , expect that you're a goddamn fanboy.

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#35 -Spock-
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He's been making Metal Gear for 20 years now, I think he just wants to end the series. I'd really like to see what he does with Project S, the Lunar Knights franchise and his Wii, MMO and Xbox 360 ideas.

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He's been doing Metal Gear for over 20 years. He wants to move on.
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#37 kkee
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Too bad he didn't end the Metal Gear franchise with a bang by bringing it on a platform with a bigger userbase, the 360 or PC, heck even the Wii.ReverseCycology

It will end on a bang, no matter which console it is on.

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#38 jujutheking
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So at E3 2007 Kojima presented a MGS4 trailer. He made sure to let everyone know that it was ingame and not just a movie. And at the end of his presentation he looked kinda sad and just didn't look happy presenting at the Sony conference, as he announced that this will be the last Metal Gear game that he'll make. So I was wondering why? Then it occured to me, it might be because of the PS3. I mean it is so difficult to develop for. I truly believe if MGS4 was being develop for the 360 or even PC it would've came out already. I believe Kojima had sleepless nights and worked his but off just to get this thing running on the PS3 hardware. I believe that the development difficulty of making a game on the PS3 discourage Kojima. I truly believe that MGS4 will be a next-gen masterpiece, but its just so sad that the PS3 made it to be the last from Kojima.

ReverseCycology

LMAOOOOOOOO kojima always says this is his last MGS4 gm and how did the ps3 kill it??

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#39 -Spock-
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Too bad he didn't end the Metal Gear franchise with a bang by bringing it on a platform with a bigger userbase, the 360 or PC, heck even the Wii.

ReverseCycology

There's a certain thing called brand loyalty though. The Metal Gear Solid segment of the franchise began on PlayStation, so the series is therefore part of the PlayStation identity. Ending it exclusively on the PS3 is a fitting finish, don't you think? As fitting as ending Halo only on an Xbox platform.

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#40 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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So at E3 2007 Kojima presented a MGS4 trailer. He made sure to let everyone know that it was ingame and not just a movie. And at the end of his presentation he looked kinda sad and just didn't look happy presenting at the Sony conference, as he announced that this will be the last Metal Gear game that he'll make. So I was wondering why? Then it occured to me, it might be because of the PS3. I mean it is so difficult to develop for. I truly believe if MGS4 was being develop for the 360 or even PC it would've came out already. I believe Kojima had sleepless nights and worked his but off just to get this thing running on the PS3 hardware. I believe that the development difficulty of making a game on the PS3 discourage Kojima. I truly believe that MGS4 will be a next-gen masterpiece, but its just so sad that the PS3 made it to be the last from Kojima.

ReverseCycology

Your reasoning makes absolutely no sense. If Kojima was upset about the PS3 then why is he the only thing standing between Konami and porting the game to the 360. If not for his support of the PS3, MGS4 would already be announced as coming to the 360 because that is what Konami wants. Kojima has been voicing his support for the PS3 and its power since day one.

Plus there is the fact that Kojima has been saying since MGS2 was being developed that he wasn't doing any more MGS games. he said that during MGS2 then 3 and now 4. So it's pretty ignorant to say that the PS3 is what caused him to say it's the end.

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#41 da1on2
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I thought it was long established this would be the last MGS
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#42 oscarVD
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lol is this guy SERIUS

MR desperate mgs4 to the 360 guy cant waste his time any better!:lol:

PLAYSTATIONis the MGS HOME!!1 it made METAl GEAT SOLID one of the most popular game in the FRAKING wolrd ...

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#43 NamanOWNSyou
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Topic fails, TC fails.
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#44 Magical_Guy
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Too bad he didn't end the Metal Gear franchise with a bang by bringing it on a platform with a bigger userbase, the 360 or PC, heck even the Wii.

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