Did we really need a Wii?

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#1 PCgameruk
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We had the Gamecube which had loads of peripherals including the use of a wireless controller. So why couldn't Nintendo release a sensor bar and wii motes for the GC instead of releasing a whole new console?

It did nothing in the graphics department.

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Did we really need a new console? The only thing Wii did was take away the core gamers.

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#2 clyde46
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Underground 2 was awesome.
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#3 WiiMan21
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IMO it was a letdown, it was left behind when it comes to games and hardware, and I felt if they jumped to the Wii U it would have been more expensive, but also it would have done better. Part of the reason why I think the WiiU is doing so poorly is because Nintendo lost A LOT of people's trust with the Wii.
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#4 WiiMan21
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Underground 2 was awesome.clyde46
This also^ I freaking played the hell out of that game.
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#5 LastRambo341
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Using screenshots? Really? The Wii is stronger than the GC The Wii was awesome as it had a lot of great games.
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#6 DJ-Lafleur
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Sorry, I was too busy LOLing at the RE4 pic to take this topic seriously.

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#7 whiskeystrike
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Don't own one with no plans to so obviously not.

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#8 MonsieurX
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Taking ugly screenshots,I see. Galaxy doesn't look like that
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#9 locopatho
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WE didn't need it. At all. It was great for non gamers tho. Expanded market immensely.
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#10 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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This thread gave me cancer.

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#11 Speedzilla
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We didn't need a Wii and we definitely don't need a Wii U.

Ninty :lol:

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#12 campzor
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Using screenshots? Really? The Wii is stronger than the GC The Wii was awesome as it had a lot of great games.

which im sure most could have been done with the GC.
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#13 nameless12345
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Back in 2006 or so I thought to myself: "wouldn't it be great if Wii was just a motion contoller for the 360 which you needed to play Nintendo's games on it?" or something along those lines.

The answer is: we didn't, but it filled Ninty's pockets with many coins and it made many families happy...

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#14 Cherokee_Jack
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People need to stop bumping these threads from 2008. ...Oh.
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#15 mariokart64fan
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lol no the reason wiiu is selling slow is games and just maybe the price, 

-think about it , if people buy nintendos console for nintendo games   (wii didnt change nintendos games all that much now did it )  the big games like zelda mariokart super mario (3d title)  pimin 3    ,  and the wwhd remake alongside xenoblade 2    and mh ultimate  ultimate havent came yet plus theres nfs mw ultimate spiderman aleins colonial marines  , re revelations hd ,   these games will help wiiu out , 

right now theres only 3 retail nintendo made games -not counting ones like ng 3   and zombi u  which are third party one of which nintendo licensed,  

  

the rest of the games are ports  ,  and the price probably is not warranting the admission , im sure when the bg hits come , more sales will come in the wiiu is still gonna succeed in profitability  with 1 game sold , so its not all bad if they dont pull wii numbers the difference with ps3 was it was bleeding money,   

which made sony look bad to the public , 

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lol no the reason wiiu is selling slow is games and just maybe the price, 

-think about it , if people buy nintendos console for nintendo games   (wii didnt change nintendos games all that much now did it )  the big games like zelda mariokart super mario (3d title)  pimin 3    ,  and the wwhd remake alongside xenoblade 2    and mh ultimate  ultimate havent came yet plus theres nfs mw ultimate spiderman aleins colonial marines  , re revelations hd ,   these games will help wiiu out , 

right now theres only 3 retail nintendo made games -not counting ones like ng 3   and zombi u  which are third party one of which nintendo licensed,  

  

the rest of the games are ports  ,  and the price probably is not warranting the admission , im sure when the bg hits come , more sales will come in the wiiu is still gonna succeed in profitability  with 1 game sold , so its not all bad if they dont pull wii numbers the difference with ps3 was it was bleeding money,   

which made sony look bad to the public , 

mariokart64fan

Damn you know it's pretty bad when even the fanboys can't differentiate between the Wii and the Wii U

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#17 PhazonBlazer
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Because it had alot of awesome games :?

The motion controls never lived up to their promise until Skyward Sword, but the Wii was a unique console. It lacked third party support but the first party support was incredible. Nintendo chose not to prioritize graphics and instead focus on innovation.

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#18 ConanTheStoner
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We don't "need" any gaming machines, but I'm very glad we had the Wii.  It was my 2nd favorite console of the 3 and offered the most unique experience.  On top of having a great games, a few of which made great use of motion controls.

And it was more powerful than the Gamecube, though not by much.

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#19 -Renegade
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Sorry, I was too busy LOLing at the RE4 pic to take this topic seriously.

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what exactly is leon doing? :lol:

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#20 whiskeystrike
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Sorry, I was too busy LOLing at the RE4 pic to take this topic seriously.

-Renegade

what exactly is leon doing? :lol:

Looks like the scene where he is getting choked by the village chief
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#21 Planeforger
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Your screenshots are:

1. A port of a Gamecube game
2. A terrible screenshot of a great-looking Gamecube game
3. A terrible screenshot of last generation's highest scoring game
4. A terrible screenshot of a Gamecube game
5. A terrible screenshot of a Wii game...featuring an N64 track
6. Whatever the hell that is

It's pretty clear that you're talking out of your arse.I mean, anyone who has those games would tell you that, as great as the Gamecube games looked for their time, the Wii versions were graphically superior - and in any case, who cares? Great exclusives are great exclusives, regardless of the graphical power behind them.

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#23 Goyoshi12
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Du wi niid ENY gemong systim?

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i know this might come off as a surprise to you, but there are people that liked the wii.
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#25 deactivated-5afcc99c5544f
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The sony fanbase is rising, I sense a new console war come 2/ 20

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#26 lo_Pine
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No. The Wii should have come after PS3. The Wii did not bring any new consumers in because of its motion controller. At the end of the PS2/Xbox era, the majority were looking for graphics and the Wii did not even compensate for that. It would have been better to release the Wii 3 years ago rather than in 2006.
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#27 hiphops_savior
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"]No. The Wii should have come after PS3. The Wii did not bring any new consumers in because of its motion controller. At the end of the PS2/Xbox era, the majority were looking for graphics and the Wii did not even compensate for that. It would have been better to release the Wii 3 years ago rather than in 2006.

The Gamecube made a profit, but it was clearly unsustainable for Nintendo. One more generation like the Gamecube and Nintendo would've went bankrupt.
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#28 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"]No. The Wii should have come after PS3. The Wii did not bring any new consumers in because of its motion controller. At the end of the PS2/Xbox era, the majority were looking for graphics and the Wii did not even compensate for that. It would have been better to release the Wii 3 years ago rather than in 2006.

The Gamecube made a profit, but it was clearly unsustainable for Nintendo. One more generation like the Gamecube and Nintendo would've went bankrupt.

What made them pursue motion controller over graphics?
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#30 hiphops_savior
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"]No. The Wii should have come after PS3. The Wii did not bring any new consumers in because of its motion controller. At the end of the PS2/Xbox era, the majority were looking for graphics and the Wii did not even compensate for that. It would have been better to release the Wii 3 years ago rather than in 2006.

The Gamecube made a profit, but it was clearly unsustainable for Nintendo. One more generation like the Gamecube and Nintendo would've went bankrupt.

What made them pursue motion controller over graphics?

Finishing dead last would make them pull something like motion controls out of the hat.
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#31 Blade8Aus
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It did have noticeably better graphics. Also: online. And I doubt it would've been easy to market the Wii remote as a Gamecube accessory in 2006.

So, yes, it was necessary for Nintendo to make the Wii instead of continuing with its Gamecube support.

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#32 scoots9
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The Wii has numerous advantages over the GameCube:

  • 50% CPU and GPU Die shrink
  • CPU and GPU clocked 50% higher
  • 104% more RAM
  • Wi-Fi
  • 510% more storage space on a disc
  • integrated support for wireless controllers
  • 512 MB internal storage vs. no internal storage
  • SD card slot

Some of that could be added with an addon, but it would be pricey and it would still be a whole lot less powerful than a Wii.

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#33 LegatoSkyheart
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Didn't the Wii have better Progressive Scanning?

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#34 Maroxad
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We didnt need the wii or any other gaming machine but... I am glad we had it. 

i know this might come off as a surprise to you, but there are people that liked the wii.BrunoBRS

Yeah, it was my favorite (or rather, the only console I could tolerate) this gen.

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#35 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Using screenshots? Really? The Wii is stronger than the GC The Wii was awesome as it had a lot of great games.

which im sure most could have been done with the GC.

And look and run worse on the GC, yup
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#36 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Using screenshots? Really? The Wii is stronger than the GC The Wii was awesome as it had a lot of great games.LastRambo341
which im sure most could have been done with the GC.

And look and run worse on the GC, yup

only slightly worse.

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#37 locopatho
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[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="campzor"] which im sure most could have been done with the GC.LegatoSkyheart

And look and run worse on the GC, yup

only slightly worse.

And have traditional controls, no waggle to ground pound in DKCR. And devs wouldn't have wasted resources on crappy online modes, making the offline modes better :shock:
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#38 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] And look and run worse on the GC, yuplocopatho

only slightly worse.

And have traditional controls, no waggle to ground pound in DKCR. And devs wouldn't have wasted resources on crappy online modes, making the offline modes better :shock:

Like what Online Modes? Wii barely had any.

Also didn't think the Ground Pound and Rolls for DKCR were that big of a deal, though it's silly they didn't add traditional controllers to the game.

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#39 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

only slightly worse.

LegatoSkyheart

And have traditional controls, no waggle to ground pound in DKCR. And devs wouldn't have wasted resources on crappy online modes, making the offline modes better :shock:

Like what Online Modes? Wii barely had any.

Also didn't think the Ground Pound and Rolls for DKCR were that big of a deal, though it's silly they didn't add traditional controllers to the game.

Mario Kart, Goldeneye, COD, Conduit, BWii, etc. Not too many no, but still :P Any reason to kick the Wii :P (I know, I need a new hobby!)
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#40 Michael0134567
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I did. Possibly my favourite console last gen.

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#41 Zen_Light
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Yes unless you're a broseph gamer.

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i know this might come off as a surprise to you, but there are people that liked the wii.BrunoBRS
I liked the Wii I had 25+ games for it that I loved playing.

 

Did we need the Wii? No but do we really need any system.

Did Nintendo need the Wii to succeed? Yes and I'm happy it succeeded; Nintendo needed it to succeed to stay afloat.

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#43 clone01
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We don't "need" any gaming machines, but I'm very glad we had the Wii.  It was my 2nd favorite console of the 3 and offered the most unique experience.  On top of having a great games, a few of which made great use of motion controls.

And it was more powerful than the Gamecube, though not by much.

ConanTheStoner
+1...I played a bunch of great games on the Wii. Glad I got one this gen.
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#44 themajormayor
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No. But then again we didn't need a GC or N64 either. Not to mention the wiiu
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#45 g0ddyX
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The Wii is too alike to GC has cut corners in the Hardware department no doubt
But their sales and marketting was extreme and thus the sales and bought in the casual wars, the soccer moms to the elderly folks.
I think most of them have moved off to iPads, Tablets and Smartphones.

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#46 sukraj
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yes

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[QUOTE="Some-Mist"] .BPoole96
Is Muramasa any good? I've been considering it

actually one of my favorite games from this gen - though it is a bit repetitive. It greatly improved everything in comparison to odin sphere. another one of my favorite games this gen was another Wii title  sin & punishment: star successor. I do agree with the topic that the Wii was pretty pointless, but I did like the Wii as there were a lot of games I enjoyed (that I could've enjoyed on other systems if they were actually developed for 'em) fatal frame 4 rhythm fever night of the sacrifice (ikenie no yoru) ultimate milestone shooting collection 2 xenoblade
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#48 -Wicked_Sick-
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The Wii seemed to have found an audience.
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#49 cainetao11
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I don't need any of them. I like gaming so I buy consoles and games I want to play. Why is it so hard to understand that Nintendo, MS, and Sony all have different strategies in this industry? Nintendo doesn't believe graphics are the most important thing in enjoying games. I agree. MS doesn't believe they need to flood the market with exclusives, and although I would prefer some new IP's, the facts of sales figures says they're right. Sony goes with the exclusives method and I have enjoyed some but no where near all of them. They also seem to have learned that making a console "future proof" with that cell thing was not a great move. I believe the next console will be easy to dev for from the start and do them well.
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#50 LittleMac19
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The Wii was a gaming system enjoyed by many so yes it was needed, the same could be asked for any video game system since at the end of the day it's just a hobby we pour endless amounts of money into.