Didn't MS sold less 360s in its 2nd yr than its 1st yr?

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#1 gamenux
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The total MS gave is 17.7 million (in 2years.)

Ok, 1st year, MS release Gears (EDIT: and no console competition). Didn't they sold around 9 million then.

Then 2nd year, MS release Halo and Mass Effect (EDIT: with competition). And sold less than 9 million....


Didn't MS sold less 360s in its 2nd yr than its 1st yr?

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#2 BubbyJello
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Doesn't that make sense? 1st year, many people that wanted one got one, and it had no competition.
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#3 toxicmog
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9 + 9 is 18 million

They are close o.O to keeping the same sales....I think it was more 7 or 8 mil in the first year tbh.

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#4 Koalakommander
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9 + 9 is 18 million

They are close o.O to keeping the same sales....I think it was more 7 or 8 mil in the first year tbh.

toxicmog

They shipped 17.7 million.

And yes they sold less their 2nd year because of competition.

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When the 360 first came out it was doing alright. Then it got momentum in the following year and now it's putzing.
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#6 gamenux
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Do anyone know how many MS sold or how many they shipped in their 1st year?
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#7 Koalakommander
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Do anyone know how many MS sold or how many they shipped in their 1st year?gamenux

They shipped 11.6 million by the end of 2006.

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1. the first 2 years 360 had NO competition(even in '06 the other consoles' lineups were pretty much trash)

2. most of the people who wanted one bought it in it's first two years

3. if halo didn't come out this year then sales would be down down down for 360.

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#9 darkplayer
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Well yeah the first year included the launch and 2 holiday seasons with no competition. The 2nd year was 1 holiday season and competition of the other 2 consoles.
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1. the first 2 years 360 had NO competition(even in '06 the other consoles' lineups were pretty much trash)
That didn't stop fanboys like you from buying these nonexistant competitors products

2. most of the people who wanted one bought it in it's first two years
A trend we can document from lastgen with the PS2

3. if halo didn't come out this year then sales would be down down down for 360.
The sales would be lower, yes. Don't tell me you are not an analyst by profession... :-O

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#11 TMontana1004
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Launch Launch Launch Launch and Lauch. That's all I have to say.
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#12 gamenux
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[QUOTE="gamenux"]Do anyone know how many MS sold or how many they shipped in their 1st year?Koalakommander

They shipped 11.6 million by the end of 2006.

If that is the case, then they only shipped another 6.1 in 2007.

11.6 + 6.1 = 17.7

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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

1. the first 2 years 360 had NO competition(even in '06 the other consoles' lineups were pretty much trash)
That didn't stop fanboys like you from buying these nonexistant competitors products

2. most of the people who wanted one bought it in it's first two years
A trend we can document from lastgen with the PS2

3. if halo didn't come out this year then sales would be down down down for 360.
The sales would be lower, yes. Don't tell me you are not an analyst by profession... :-O

Krisgebis

when did i say anything fanboyish???

you have to admit the ps3 and wii's 06 lineup were pretty darn BAD

and sony consoles have more than one game that sell them

halo(and gears recently) are the only things that sell the 360

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#14 GabeBlack
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Just a reminder. The 360 started out with a 399 and 299 price tag. It now has a 350 and 279 price tag. It has gotten no where near the magic 200 dollar price tag. I dont believe 360 will when this gen, but I do believe it can reach 40 million.
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="gamenux"]Do anyone know how many MS sold or how many they shipped in their 1st year?gamenux

They shipped 11.6 million by the end of 2006.

If that is the case, then they only shipped another 6.1 in 2007.

11.6 + 6.1 = 17.7

It wasn't 11.6, it was 10.4 I belive or 10. something by the end of 06. That's total including the launch sales from 05.
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#16 GabeBlack
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[QUOTE="Krisgebis"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

1. the first 2 years 360 had NO competition(even in '06 the other consoles' lineups were pretty much trash)
That didn't stop fanboys like you from buying these nonexistant competitors products

2. most of the people who wanted one bought it in it's first two years
A trend we can document from lastgen with the PS2

3. if halo didn't come out this year then sales would be down down down for 360.
The sales would be lower, yes. Don't tell me you are not an analyst by profession... :-O

mistervengeance

when did i say anything fanboyish???

you have to admit the ps3 and wii's 06 lineup were pretty darn BAD

and sony consoles have more than one game that sell them

halo(and gears recently) are the only things that sell the 360

Dont take offense. But the 360 has more then a few games that have sold in the millions range.

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#17 MikeE21286
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yes.
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Launch Launch Launch Launch and Lauch. That's all I have to say.TMontana1004

Sales are supposed to go up every year until it is replaced, not down.

Gamespot said sales for X360 were 18% less year 2.

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#19 gamenux
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[QUOTE="gamenux"][QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="gamenux"]Do anyone know how many MS sold or how many they shipped in their 1st year?pins_basic

They shipped 11.6 million by the end of 2006.

If that is the case, then they only shipped another 6.1 in 2007.

11.6 + 6.1 = 17.7

It wasn't 11.6, it was 10.4 I belive or 10. something by the end of 06. That's total including the launch sales from 05.

So Does anyone know how many 360s sold or shipped in 06 ONLY, not including the sales from 05?

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#20 Kahuna_1
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They sold like 8 million in year one, without launch probably 7.5 million...and year 2 is about 7.5 million.
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[QUOTE="TMontana1004"]Launch Launch Launch Launch and Lauch. That's all I have to say.EmperorSupreme

Sales are supposed to go up every year until it is replaced, not down.

Gamespot said sales for X360 were 18% less year 2.

Also, they had no competition their first year./thread

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lol how is gears helping recently if it came out about a year ago.
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[QUOTE="TMontana1004"]Launch Launch Launch Launch and Lauch. That's all I have to say.EmperorSupreme

Sales are supposed to go up every year until it is replaced, not down.

Gamespot said sales for X360 were 18% less year 2.

But it has yet to have any real price drop. I dont think there are very few people left in the market willing to pay this much.

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[QUOTE="Krisgebis"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

1. the first 2 years 360 had NO competition(even in '06 the other consoles' lineups were pretty much trash)
That didn't stop fanboys like you from buying these nonexistant competitors products

2. most of the people who wanted one bought it in it's first two years
A trend we can document from lastgen with the PS2

3. if halo didn't come out this year then sales would be down down down for 360.
The sales would be lower, yes. Don't tell me you are not an analyst by profession... :-O

mistervengeance

when did i say anything fanboyish??? Both your previous AND this post is fanboyish, but I understand if you can't see it ;-)

you have to admit the ps3 and wii's 06 lineup were pretty darn BAD Their 06 and 07 lineups were pretty crap, but they were still competition (fanboys still bought into the waiting game of PS3 and Wii is #1 already)

and sony consoles have more than one game that sell them So does the x360. It has had way more million sellers then both Wii and PS3. Even if you compare launch-1st year of both PS3 and x360.

halo(and gears recently) are the only things that sell the 360 1. This is wrong. 2. You dont think this statement qualifies as fanboyish?

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Microsoft shipped 10.4 million 360s totalat the end of 2006. Theyovershipped last.In 2007 they say they shipped 17.7 million. Yeah the sales went down and I exspect PS3 to sale anywhere between 10-12 million units by March 2009 form March 2008. It's over for M$ it's like I said before this war started. Sony wins by default because Nintendo chose to make the Wii.
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#26 GabeBlack
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Microsoft shipped 10.4 million 360s totalat the end of 2006. Theyovershipped last.In 2007 they say they shipped 17.7 million. Yeah the sales went down and I exspect PS3 to sale anywhere between 10-12 million units by March 2009 form March 2008. It's over for M$ it's like I said before this war started. Sony wins by default because Nintendo chose to make the Wii.-Renegade

Your logic is flawed and dont see from your reasons how sony won.

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[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Microsoft shipped 10.4 million 360s totalat the end of 2006. Theyovershipped last.In 2007 they say they shipped 17.7 million. Yeah the sales went down and I exspect PS3 to sale anywhere between 10-12 million units by March 2009 form March 2008. It's over for M$ it's like I said before this war started. Sony wins by default because Nintendo chose to make the Wii.GabeBlack

Your logic is flawed and dont see from your reasons how sony won.

Sony still has all the big games and still has mass appeal worldwide. So we get great games from all markets.

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#28 GabeBlack
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[QUOTE="GabeBlack"]

[QUOTE="-Renegade"]Microsoft shipped 10.4 million 360s totalat the end of 2006. Theyovershipped last.In 2007 they say they shipped 17.7 million. Yeah the sales went down and I exspect PS3 to sale anywhere between 10-12 million units by March 2009 form March 2008. It's over for M$ it's like I said before this war started. Sony wins by default because Nintendo chose to make the Wii.-Renegade

Your logic is flawed and dont see from your reasons how sony won.

Sony still has all the big games and still has mass appeal worldwide. So we get great games from all markets.

That didnt help nintendo last gen.

We are only 2 years into the this gen of the new consoles. All the big guys still have tricks they can use. That is of course if they are willing to use them.

The 360 still costs way too much for being in its 2nd year. And PS3 costs too much right from the get go, but they seem to be doing alot better on the price front.

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This summer the 360 is getting the 65nm GPU chip so that should help stop the RROD once and for all. Oh and MS should lower the cost of the 360 too around $199 for the arcade and $299 for the Pro. :D

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#30 dk_2007
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[QUOTE="Koalakommander"]

[QUOTE="gamenux"]Do anyone know how many MS sold or how many they shipped in their 1st year?gamenux

They shipped 11.6 million by the end of 2006.

If that is the case, then they only shipped another 6.1 in 2007.

11.6 + 6.1 = 17.7

and dont forget that 11.6 includes 1 year shipment + launch shipment (during christmas time).

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Doesn't that make sense? 1st year, many people that wanted one got one, and it had no competition.BubbyJello

Makes sense if you're admiting 360 isn't very good after all. Every other console that dominated accelerated in sales the first few years.

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#32 Zhengi
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Correction for some people who are using the wrong numbers.

It was 10.4 million by the end of 2006.

At launch, they sold 1.5 million. That means from Jan 2006 to Dec. 2006, they shipped 8.9 million. That means from Jan. 2007 to Dec. 2007, they shipped 7.3 million.

However, we know that MS stuffed the retail channels last year. They were probably around 8.5 million sold to customers. Right now, they're probably around 16 million. That means that 1st year from Jan 2006 to Dec 2006, they sold about 6 million consoles and from Jan 2007 to Dec 2007, they sold about 7.5 million. They definitely sold more their 2nd year compared to their 1st year.

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#33 mistervengeance
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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"][QUOTE="Krisgebis"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

1. the first 2 years 360 had NO competition(even in '06 the other consoles' lineups were pretty much trash)
That didn't stop fanboys like you from buying these nonexistant competitors products

2. most of the people who wanted one bought it in it's first two years
A trend we can document from lastgen with the PS2

3. if halo didn't come out this year then sales would be down down down for 360.
The sales would be lower, yes. Don't tell me you are not an analyst by profession... :-O

Krisgebis

when did i say anything fanboyish??? Both your previous AND this post is fanboyish, but I understand if you can't see it ;-)

you have to admit the ps3 and wii's 06 lineup were pretty darn BAD Their 06 and 07 lineups were pretty crap, but they were still competition (fanboys still bought into the waiting game of PS3 and Wii is #1 already)

and sony consoles have more than one game that sell them So does the x360. It has had way more million sellers then both Wii and PS3. Even if you compare launch-1st year of both PS3 and x360.

halo(and gears recently) are the only things that sell the 360 1. This is wrong. 2. You dont think this statement qualifies as fanboyish?

ok, let me rephrase my last state ment

halo and gears are the 2 biggest reasons the xbox 360 sells(has sold) so much

if 360 didn't have halo, it wouldn't have that huge casual audience and the sales would be less than half what they are now