Difference between mmo dedicated server and ordinary dedicated server?

OK, this is mainly in responce to the ferocious huxley debate going on in the other thread, but this needs addressing on its own.

It started with many many cows claiming ownage over lemmings for ps3 being able to run 60 players online in Resistance 2. It was very much implied if not stated that the 360 could not do this many online. In fact I'm sure I read some posts where they say the 360 cannot do more that 16 online. Well of course it can with dedicated servers. BF2 on the 360 has EA servers that host 32..I think.

Anyway, if you understand anything about information technology you will know that if you want to network a lot of computers, you use a dedicated server. It is the only way for large numbers of players to play in the same game. Its the same technology that allows lots of people to access a website at the same time.

Both Resistance 2 and Huxley use dedicated servers to host their matches. For those who dont know about Huxley there are 2 parts to the game. It is a MMOFPS. You will create a character and level up/up-grade weapons COD4 style. You will then be able to take part in 100v100 player battles. Resistance you can't create a character but you do take part in 30v30 player battles.

The gameplay in Huxley is very similar to Unreal Tournament. It's not a World of Warcraft styles (turn based) mmorpg!

You CAN compare the games based on the number of people the servers host in a single battle. The mmo part of huxley is irrelevant. Picture if you will that the mmo part of huxley didn't exist. Imagine, there was only the 100v100 battles. You can directly compare the number of players logged on and competing on a server at a given time. This is, in essence what the TC of the other thread was referring to.

Resistance 2 Dedicated Server:Hosting 30v30 player battles

Huxley Dedicated Server:Hosting 100v100 player battles

There we go a direct comparision! I'm not imply one cannot do the other. In fact there is no reason why the ps3 couldn't do even more than 100v100 and visa versa!

OK, here comes the question that I have been building this up to....3,2....1!

Who still thinks Resistance 2 couldn't be done on the 360? If not......why?

the diffrence is that you pay for MMOs, while Insomaniacs will offer you dedicated servers for free. It's not about what hardware can do, but what SOny and MS are willing to provide. And aside from few very noble exceptions most XBL games run on P2P, which is ridiculous considering 360 gamers are paying for XBLAdrianWerner

Thats not what was being discussed. Anyway, it hasn't been confirmed that there will be a monthly fee for Huxley. What if there isn't one hmm?

The 360 can do more then 16 players Online. PDZ had 40 players at one time. Frontlines is going to have 32 players using dedicated servers.

The reason people pay $20 a month on a MMO is because running servers at high speeds for tens of thousands even hundreds of thousands, cost alot of money...I mean alot of money. I'd say maybe $10-$15 of your fee is just to keep the servers alive and kicking.

Where as when you have lets say 60 people servers, well thats much easier and inexpensive to operate, and maintane. MMO need constant server maintanence to keep them running, smaller servers just run and have the odd check up.

Get a windmill and you got free energy for your home. Get a powerplant got expensive energy for everyone!

MMO games are designed that way. They usually have sub-par graphics (to ease on the processor, and in PC's case to make the game widespread) and servers which cost loooooooads more than any other game server.

While I'm sure the 360 can do 30v30, it's just not a good comparison.

The 360 can do more then 16 players Online. PDZ had 40 players at one time. Frontlines is going to have 32 players using dedicated servers.

PS3_3DO

[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The 360 can do more then 16 players Online. PDZ had 40 players at one time. Frontlines is going to have 32 players using dedicated servers.

Citizen_Zero

P2P works just fine but the problem is some people think they can host a game on a slow DSL connection. Once the host has a decent upload there is no lag.

[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The 360 can do more then 16 players Online. PDZ had 40 players at one time. Frontlines is going to have 32 players using dedicated servers.

Deihmos

P2P works just fine but the problem is some people think they can host a game on a slow DSL connection. Once the host has a decent upload there is no lag.

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The 360 can do more then 16 players Online. PDZ had 40 players at one time. Frontlines is going to have 32 players using dedicated servers.

Citizen_Zero

P2P works just fine but the problem is some people think they can host a game on a slow DSL connection. Once the host has a decent upload there is no lag.

Halo has an option to match with players with the best connection and it works well. I never experience any lag in the game.

I haven't had a laggy game in a LONG LONG TIME, it's just some players get that WTF crap where they just GET IT! They have that 0.80s advantage on you or w/e, ya it makes a HUGE difference imo.

Like when you die on CoD4 and you watch the replay. Those times when you fired idk 6 shots or w/e but when you watch it, it only shows you fireing 1 or none?!?!?! That crap eats me up.
Citizen_Zero

Lol, that's cod, not the server. The Kill Cam has been flawed since the day it was made. Also, in cod2 when you went to duck behind a wall and pop up real quik and then duck down again, the other player won't see you.

[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"]I haven't had a laggy game in a LONG LONG TIME, it's just some players get that WTF crap where they just GET IT! They have that 0.80s advantage on you or w/e, ya it makes a HUGE difference imo.

Like when you die on CoD4 and you watch the replay. Those times when you fired idk 6 shots or w/e but when you watch it, it only shows you fireing 1 or none?!?!?! That crap eats me up.
comstrikeiscool

Lol, that's cod, not the server. The Kill Cam has been flawed since the day it was made. Also, in cod2 when you went to duck behind a wall and pop up real quik and then duck down again, the other player won't see you.

[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

The 360 can do more then 16 players Online. PDZ had 40 players at one time. Frontlines is going to have 32 players using dedicated servers.

Deihmos

P2P works just fine but the problem is some people think they can host a game on a slow DSL connection. Once the host has a decent upload there is no lag.

Halo has an option to match with players with the best connection and it works well. I never experience any lag in the game.

Until 1 player desides to lag out then the game freezes and restarts countless times :roll: