Difficulty =/= Quality

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#1 jumbalaya6969
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Seriously, get this idea out of your heads.
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#2 AzatiS
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Who said that?
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Someone is bound to mention NG.
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Depends on the genre.
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#5 AzatiS
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Ok then , ill make a FPS game but youll have to hit bare-handed instead of shooting with weapons.

All enemies will 1shot-you from distance for fun! QUALITY babe!!

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#6 Son_of_Some
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Too easy difficulty=bad thing

Too hard difficulty=bad thing

The optimum difficulty=hard to achieve

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#7 LordQuorthon
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The Angry Video Game Nerd would like to have a word with you, Jumbalaya.
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The Angry Video Game Nerd would like to have a word with you, Jumbalaya.LordQuorthon

ASS!

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#9 dgo71102244
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Someone is bound to mention NG.Pro_wrestler


NG quality is everywhere graphics, lenght, system combat, bosses fight, weapons if he is saying that for NG then these thread is a massive fail
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#10 Veterngamer
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pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!
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pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!Veterngamer

Your post would have a point on a forum where many members confuse pie for cake.

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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!jumbalaya6969

Your post would have a point on a forum where many members confuse pie for cake.

point is... everyone knows difficulty =/= quality.... so why do you feel the need to tell everyone, like they didnt already know?

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pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!Veterngamer

Cake = Giant pie..therefore The Cake is a Pie

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#14 jumbalaya6969
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[QUOTE="jumbalaya6969"]

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!Veterngamer

Your post would have a point on a forum where many members confuse pie for cake.

point is... everyone knows difficulty =/= quality.... so why do you feel the need to tell everyone, like they didnt already know?

Every time there's a NG v GoW thread, Lems seem to forget.

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This is actually a good point. So many wannabe "hardcore" gamers think that if a game is insanely difficult that it is uber hardcore and that tend to overrate them.
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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!Pro_wrestler

Cake = Giant pie..therefore The Cake is a Pie

...

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cake

Ha! proved you wrong!!!!! :P

A good game should be difficult enough to make you ahave to try some bits a few times to get it right, but not so that you cannot complete it.

an easy game can be fun, R&C: TOD was easy, but still fun.

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#17 hungryheart077
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yeah whatever........ i prefer ninja gaiden over god of war anyday.
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[QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="jumbalaya6969"]

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!jumbalaya6969

Your post would have a point on a forum where many members confuse pie for cake.

point is... everyone knows difficulty =/= quality.... so why do you feel the need to tell everyone, like they didnt already know?

Every time there's a NG v GoW thread, Lems seem to forget.

It's the truth, NG is harder than GoW. To take out the difficult in the comparison doesn't help GoW.

The reason way people think NG is harder is because you can't buttonmash in it, the AI is a lot smarter and you have to learn to play the game. If you play the game and try to just run to the end you will get a nasty surprise. To finish the game you have to learn the moves and combos.

One thing that people hate about the game is that you can't blame it on bad controls when you die because you control every move in the game, it's possible to avoid every and I mean every attack from regular enemies and BOSSES and the reason you die in the game is only and I mean only your fault. That's why people think it's harder and better.

I have to ask you why fans of GoW think that the story somehow matters in an ACTION game?

Personally I hate God of War.

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I agree. A good game should be one which you can bumble along through with relative ease, except for in a few places where it should be difficult. I don't like to be punished for spending my money on a game.
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#20 akif22
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yeah, someone might mention NG

the difference between NG and other difficult games is that the difficulty is really well balanced .. it's hard, but not too hard

just enough to keep you trying, knowing that you can finish it

the difficulty made it one of the best games of last gen for me .. it was so satisfying to finish

but if it was harder, the quality of the game would have gone down and been less enjoyable for me

so saying that difficulty=quality is wrong .. it's more complicated than that

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[QUOTE="jumbalaya6969"][QUOTE="Veterngamer"][QUOTE="jumbalaya6969"]

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]pie =/= cake..... SO WHAT! WHATS UR POINT!?!JLF1

Your post would have a point on a forum where many members confuse pie for cake.

point is... everyone knows difficulty =/= quality.... so why do you feel the need to tell everyone, like they didnt already know?

Every time there's a NG v GoW thread, Lems seem to forget.

It's the truth, NG is harder than GoW. To take out the difficult in the comparison doesn't help GoW.

The reason way people think NG is harder is because you can't buttonmash in it, the AI is a lot smarter and you have to learn to play the game. If you play the game and try to just run to the end you will get a nasty surprise. To finish the game you have to learn the moves and combos.

One thing that people hate about the game is that you can't blame it on bad controls when you die because you control every move in the game, it's possible to avoid every and I mean every attack from regular enemies and BOSSES and the reason you die in the game is only and I mean only your fault. That's why people think it's harder and better.

I have to ask you why fans of GoW think that the story somehow matters in an ACTION game?

Personally I hate God of War.

Very well said, and i agree, its not better because its harder, its because of why its harder that its better, it requires more skill and precision, which is fun when you are able to master it, when i play GOW i dont feel like i got any better at mashing buttons

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yeah, someone might mention NG

the difference between NG and other difficult games is that the difficulty is really well balanced .. it's hard, but not too hard

just enough to keep you trying, knowing that you can finish it

the difficulty made it one of the best games of last gen for me .. it was so satisfying to finish

but if it was harder, the quality of the game would have gone down and been less enjoyable for me

so saying that difficulty=quality is wrong .. it's more complicated than that

akif22

Exactly.

The reason why so many people hate o NG is the fact that you have to learn to play the game until you get good at it but in games like GoW you can just run and press the same button. Another reason is if you get good enough you can avoid every attack in the game unlike GoW were the bosses cheats on you constantly.

NG is actually easier if you learn to control it, the gameplay is very fluid and fast.
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#23 thrones
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[QUOTE="akif22"]

yeah, someone might mention NG

the difference between NG and other difficult games is that the difficulty is really well balanced .. it's hard, but not too hard

just enough to keep you trying, knowing that you can finish it

the difficulty made it one of the best games of last gen for me .. it was so satisfying to finish

but if it was harder, the quality of the game would have gone down and been less enjoyable for me

so saying that difficulty=quality is wrong .. it's more complicated than that

JLF1


Exactly.

The reason why so many people hate o NG is the fact that you have to learn to play the game until you get good at it but in games like GoW you can just run and press the same button. Another reason is if you get good enough you can avoid every attack in the game unlike GoW were the bosses cheats on you constantly.

NG is actually easier if you learn to control it, the gameplay is very fluid and fast.

But..you know. I don't like hitting my head against a brick wall, I want to feel powerful in video games. The same power a gun gives me, but in sword form. That's why I like God of War :D

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[QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="akif22"]

yeah, someone might mention NG

the difference between NG and other difficult games is that the difficulty is really well balanced .. it's hard, but not too hard

just enough to keep you trying, knowing that you can finish it

the difficulty made it one of the best games of last gen for me .. it was so satisfying to finish

but if it was harder, the quality of the game would have gone down and been less enjoyable for me

so saying that difficulty=quality is wrong .. it's more complicated than that

thrones


Exactly.

The reason why so many people hate o NG is the fact that you have to learn to play the game until you get good at it but in games like GoW you can just run and press the same button. Another reason is if you get good enough you can avoid every attack in the game unlike GoW were the bosses cheats on you constantly.

NG is actually easier if you learn to control it, the gameplay is very fluid and fast.

But..you know. I don't like hitting my head against a brick wall, I want to feel powerful in video games. The same power a gun gives me, but in sword form. That's why I like God of War :D


Don't get me wrong. GoW is a quality franchise it's just that I don't like it personally. It feels to slow and repetitive and the story is annoying to me a I have studied Greek mythology and the story felt like they just got a couple of famous names and throw them in at random.

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#25 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="akif22"]

yeah, someone might mention NG

the difference between NG and other difficult games is that the difficulty is really well balanced .. it's hard, but not too hard

just enough to keep you trying, knowing that you can finish it

the difficulty made it one of the best games of last gen for me .. it was so satisfying to finish

but if it was harder, the quality of the game would have gone down and been less enjoyable for me

so saying that difficulty=quality is wrong .. it's more complicated than that

JLF1


Exactly.

The reason why so many people hate o NG is the fact that you have to learn to play the game until you get good at it but in games like GoW you can just run and press the same button. Another reason is if you get good enough you can avoid every attack in the game unlike GoW were the bosses cheats on you constantly.

NG is actually easier if you learn to control it, the gameplay is very fluid and fast.

But..you know. I don't like hitting my head against a brick wall, I want to feel powerful in video games. The same power a gun gives me, but in sword form. That's why I like God of War :D


Don't get me wrong. GoW is a quality franchise it's just that I don't like it personally. It feels to slow and repetitive and the story is annoying to me a I have studied Greek mythology and the story felt like they just got a couple of famous names and throw them in at random.

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I like it :| I played Ninja Gaiden Sigma on my PS3, while it wasn't bad I got frustrated far too many times and I returned it before finishing the game. Personal choice though

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#26 hungryheart077
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="JLF1"][QUOTE="akif22"]

yeah, someone might mention NG

the difference between NG and other difficult games is that the difficulty is really well balanced .. it's hard, but not too hard

just enough to keep you trying, knowing that you can finish it

the difficulty made it one of the best games of last gen for me .. it was so satisfying to finish

but if it was harder, the quality of the game would have gone down and been less enjoyable for me

so saying that difficulty=quality is wrong .. it's more complicated than that

JLF1


Exactly.

The reason why so many people hate o NG is the fact that you have to learn to play the game until you get good at it but in games like GoW you can just run and press the same button. Another reason is if you get good enough you can avoid every attack in the game unlike GoW were the bosses cheats on you constantly.

NG is actually easier if you learn to control it, the gameplay is very fluid and fast.

But..you know. I don't like hitting my head against a brick wall, I want to feel powerful in video games. The same power a gun gives me, but in sword form. That's why I like God of War :D


Don't get me wrong. GoW is a quality franchise it's just that I don't like it personally. It feels to slow and repetitive and the story is annoying to me a I have studied Greek mythology and the story felt like they just got a couple of famous names and throw them in at random.

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agreed the game becomes borring and repetitive meanwhile in ninja gaiden the gameplay never gets borring you can play it in harder dificulties and have fun unlike god of war that becomes in hard dificultys unfair and borring to play.
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Although a game being difficult doesn't automatically make it a masterpiece, I tend to enjoy games that have a high difficulty. Through a game being tough, I usually tend to put more time into beating the game (inevitably, the game becomes longer) and I get a sense of satisfaction and relief after I beat a tough level, boss fight, etc.
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#28 mattyftm
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Too easy difficulty=bad thing

Too hard difficulty=bad thing

The optimum difficulty=hard to achieve

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The optimum dificulty is impossible to acheive, because everyone has a diferent idea of what it is.

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#29 razu_gamer2
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1 difficult leve l = fail game.

easy and hard mode = ftw.

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#30 thrones
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1 difficult leve l = fail game.

easy and hard mode = ftw.

razu_gamer2

It's true. It is ftw, there's something for everyone! To be honest, you need 5 levels of difficulty or you're insta-fail.