disc scratching is not a big issue

but it gives you the idea of how unnecessarily cheap something is made.

dutch tv evidence

new 360

as shown in the first video, it only takes 4 rubber pads around the lens. I really cannot understand why they improved many things in the new 360 - even useless touch sensitive buttons - but didn't take care of such elementary thing. It only makes me think that they have no clue about it or just don't care at all.

I was lucky because I only destroyed the demo disc coming with the 360, from that moment on I literally glued the xbox 360 on the table.

Ms should really fire that company that makes those 360's and go with a better one.

more proof

slot load drive + blu ray = A+

360 drive + DVD = :(

it is a big issue tbh.A product shoudnt scratch CD's unless misused not bumpped over they should have reinforced the shock padding on the CD but hey cut costs where you can.If they did that the disk scratching issue would have been a lot more minor.

What i find insulting is i pay all that money for a game, console gets accidentaly bumped and its ring scratched that bad it wont work anymore then i have to shell out all that money to play again.All the Dd needs is a simple shockproofing and it would make it much less of a problem.

the quality of a product is a very important thing. I had a bad experience with a cheap car stereo, it literally drained the battery of the car and it broke. then I got a more reliable brand and never had a problem since.

my 360 also scratched the demo.. I had just gotten it and I was placing it on the desk while the disc was spinning inside. ugly noise + disc destroyed. now they put the sticker in front of the console that warns you not to move the console while the disc is inside, but it's ridiculous to think that they didn't bother adding some sort of protection that prevents the scratching.

it's really a shame, an annoying thing for an otherwise good console.

Disc scratching is the reasong why i had to buy Gears1 again. =(

this is why 360 doesn't sell well in europe

Bluray resist rubbing steel wool in video:)killzowned24

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Bluray resist rubbing steel wool in video:)afrihan

[QUOTE="afrihan"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]Bluray resist rubbing steel wool in video:)killzowned24

[QUOTE="afrihan"]this is why 360 doesn't sell well in europelucky_star

This is why I let my friends own 360s. When **** hits the fan, it ain't my problem. :lol:

It sucks, but I really don't know why you'd be moving your console around when it's on anyway...locopatho

[QUOTE="locopatho"]It sucks, but I really don't know why you'd be moving your console around when it's on anyway...hiryu3

It sucks, but I really don't know why you'd be moving your console around when it's on anyway...locopatho

Why not? Maybe its in the way and you want to move it out of the way. Maybe someones vacuuming and you need to move it to higher ground. You shouldnt be prohibited from doing something so simple.

[QUOTE="hiryu3"][QUOTE="locopatho"]It sucks, but I really don't know why you'd be moving your console around when it's on anyway...locopatho

well if 360 discs get scratched alot of stores can buff them and make them like new. if a blu ray disc gets scratched your out of luck....

Disc scratching is a human mistake, not the console's.

Be careful and nothing will happen.

finally, some 360 hate that is justfied.

an additional 50 cent investment could have fixed this problem.

now i have never had a scratched disc but i can see where accidents happen and blaming it on end use error is just not good enough.

these things need to be made so idiot proof even a dutch tv reporter can't mess it up. a difficult task but possible.

whats worse is when you rent a dvd with a million scratches on it and it still works. then you put a blu ray disc with a few finger print marks on itand the thing wont play.

Disc scratching is a human mistake, not the console's.

Be careful and nothing will happen.

IronBass

I call BS on that. I've always taken good care of my games in fact my carts from systems like the N64 are still in perfect condition however, I always had scratched disc from systems that used them dating back to the PS1.

Can you honestly tell me that a disc based game you've put a good amount of time in has not one scratch?

I call BS on that. I've always taken good care of my games in fact my carts from systems like the N64 are still in perfect condition howevee, I always had scratched disc from systems that used them dating back to the PS1.FlamesOfGrey

Can you honestly tell me that a disc based game you've put a good amount of time in has not one scratch?FlamesOfGrey

The game I've spent most time with (not counting after NXE let me install them) was Fallout 3 (around 90 hours), and besides two very, very, very minor, almost unnoticeable scratches, it's perfectly fine.

well if 360 discs get scratched alot of stores can buff them and make them like new. if a blu ray disc gets scratched your out of luck....

monson21502

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"]I call BS on that. I've always taken good care of my games in fact my carts from systems like the N64 are still in perfect condition howevee, I always had scratched disc from systems that used them dating back to the PS1.IronBass

No, I was careful and still am careful. Minor scratches are scratches. I have never known anyone not to have scratches on their games with significant use, now, if you're talking only about unplayable games scratches that is a big difference but scratches in general are a normal occurrence and not due to to someone not taking care of their games. FlamesOfGrey

Its all about the money. So Microsoft would rather not spend the 5 cents. EdenProxy

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] No, I was careful and still am careful. Minor scratches are scratches. I have never known anyone not to have scratches on their games with significant use, now, if you're talking only about unplayable games scratches that is a big difference but scratches in general are a normal occurrence and not due to to someone not taking care of their games. IronBass

Yeah, I've had problems with major scratches also and I never keep games in my consoles. Maybe I've just had bad luck but I'm on my 2nd PS2 and 360 and both models of each have scratched discs after a while so, it's definitely the way the consoles are built IMO.

Yeah, I've had problems with major scratches also and I never keep games in my consoles. Maybe I've just had bad luck but I'm on my 2nd PS2 and 360 and both models of each have scratched discs after a while so, it's definitely the way the consoles are built IMO.FlamesOfGrey

this is why 360 doesn't sell well in europe

afrihan

[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]Its all about the money. So Microsoft would rather not spend the 5 cents. IronBass

Considering all the videos on youtube of scratched discs, it is an issue. If Sony and Nintendo can get it right in 2006 Microsoft should be able to in 2010. EdenProxy

[QUOTE="EdenProxy"]Considering all the videos on youtube of scratched discs, it is an issue. If Sony and Nintendo can get it right in 2006 Microsoft should be able to in 2010. IronBass

So your argument is lets pretend everything about youtube isnt credible and therefore cant be used. Well mine is lets stop pretending SW is a closed system. People exist outside this place, and youtube is used by more people then GS is. Im not sure why your so against a company inserting a "just in case feature in there product" . Those rubber pad could be compared to seat belts in cars. They only serve there purpose if you get in an accident but when it happens your glad theyre there. EdenProxy

Watch this video, this is some good proof here on the 360. I have it only happen to one of my discs , but my friend has had it over three times. It may be fixed now but it is a problem still.

this is why 360 doesn't sell well in europe

afrihan

even the cases on 360 games scratch the discs, seriously I pay the same for 360 or ps3 games and ps3's higher quality discs have never scratched in system or from the case, whereas 360 discs scratch if you touch the case or put in the drive unevenly. If the 360 can't fix the console to prevent scratching at least put a scratchguard of some sort on the discs. Considering blue ray discs are more expansive why do most 360 games on release charge same amount?

well if 360 discs get scratched alot of stores can buff them and make them like new. if a blu ray disc gets scratched your out of luck....

monson21502

I must be lucky as I have never had a problem with scratched discs on my 360.

I also don't do the tango with my 360 while it's playing a game or movie either but I digress.

it is if your disc gets scratched and doesn't work anymore.

[QUOTE="locopatho"]It sucks, but I really don't know why you'd be moving your console around when it's on anyway...erglesmergle

Why not? Maybe its in the way and you want to move it out of the way. Maybe someones vacuuming and you need to move it to higher ground. You shouldnt be prohibited from doing something so simple.