Division worth getting? If so for which system?

Noooo don't delete Destiny, she wants to stay inside. Don't do it for Bungie's sake. I'm also in the same situation, have nothing to play but after the beta and now seeing how the full game is (exactly like the beta...), no, no thanks, do not want The Division and i love loot based games.

PS4, buying it for PC is just a bad idea since it's Ubisoft.

Looks like Destiny with humans. I think I'll stick with Siege until UC4.

Just played like for an hour, the game looks and plays amazing on the xbox one.

I'm sure it will look just as good, or even better on the ps4.

I does not look like the beta imo, it looks way better.

I'm gonna have to pass up for now as I need to save my money up for a move I'm doing in a few months, so this game isn't making my list of priority games I'm willing to spend money on at the moment. I played the demo though, I enjoyed what I played, but it was no Destiny killer that's for sure.

When I do play it then it'll likely be on the Xbox One, just my preference.

How can it look better!? I don't believe they've done anything to the visuals since the beta.

Will get it down the line on PC.

Read it in a news that they've overhauled the graphics as well.

That is hard to believe. Any links? I've heard about the Dark Zone rebalance since the closed beta but didn't hear anything about graphical improvements.

It's not drawing me in. The weapons are boring, the enemies are boring, the setting is boring, the missions are boring. If the weapons/items get crazy later on, like landshark guns or summoning demons or shooting around corners, or controlling the weather that would get me interested. If the enemies get crazy, like centaurs or suicide squads or boobytraps everywhere or killer cats I would be interested. If the setting got crazy like you have to go through hell, or underground mazes, or you visit Narnia or you go to a large space station that would get me interested. And if the missions become crazy like erasing evidence in time for a patrol, or hiding ill people to make insane money from them but not for too long or others get infected, or setting up AAA guns to kill players dropping in, or double crossing the A.I. that could get me interested.

It's like the game has no creativity.

Yeah, they sure did something.

This feels like the next Hellgate London.

I'd avoid it for a few months, if only to see if the game has any staying power.

Waiting on this game. Borderlands pre-sequel and destiny prove you can go horribly wrong with loot based games. The raids saved Destiny from being complete rubbish and Division doesn't even have that.

@KungfuKitten:

You're not kidding about the enemies. If you have played a Ubisoft game before you know exactly what the enemies do.

This game is always online

Playing it on the PS4, pretty fun so far (lvl 5). My only complaint so far is the constant pushing for matchmaking every mission (so far).

Well if you get it for free with a card voucher like I did, then yea it's probably worth it. Otherwise it seems pretty lukewarm in it's reception so you could probably hold off. I'll be playing on PC, but I'm only sort of interested, it's mostly just to tide me over until Dark Souls 3.

Pick it up on a system with people you know. I don't really know anyone who's interested in it, so I'll just matchmake my way around until I get bored.

lmao you have to wait in line to access a laptop.

@mjorh: No wonder the reviews aren't out yet - all of the reviewers are stuck in a line, waiting to play beyond the original demo.

Speaking of...this is literally the worst review embargo BS that I've ever seen. A majorly advertised title launching with no reviews? That's unheard of!

I knew this game was ******* shit. Currently watching some twich streams and its exactly like i expected it to be. Nothing improved from beta because beta was a demo for the final game. You have EIGHT character faces to choose from (and people were telling me that there will be way more in the final game. If you played Destiny, you'd know that when a beta offers you a pathetic character customization, the final game won't be far from what's offered in the beta) lol eight. Destiny, a game with mediocre customization had more lmao.

This game is all that's wrong with current Ubi. An uninspired piece of shit of a game.

lol :)))))))

Well, it's better, close to reality , when BF4 launched it had pretty high scores but the servers were down with tons of issues so it's better that reviewers experience the same game.

The first review is here : http://www.cheatcc.com/ps4/rev/tomclancythedivisionreview.html

Cooperative play is a joy, an abundance of gear means your agent is ever-evolving, and an air-tight narrative set within a game world that is unmistakably Tom-Clancian provides a sense of purpose and urgency that makes it nigh impossible to put the controller down. You'll be like me soon enough: fighting off sleep as you recount recent battles with your friends and think about which branch of your base you'd like to upgrade next. It's an addiction as contagious as the fictional virus sweeping through The Division's New York. The wait was worth it, so get out there and gear up, agent. I'll meet you in Brooklyn.

Hmm...don't know about the website, but it's good to see it got a high score.

You should re name yourself to Salty_and_Stupid, I've never seen so much ignorance posted at once. As someone who has put a good 100+ hours into 2 versions of Destiny (PS4 and X1), The Division shits ALL OVER DESTINY not only in story (lawl cause we all know Destiny fraked up on that one), the virus savaged wasteland that New York has become in that game feels amazing, crawling with npcs trying to survive, gang members trying to seize control of NY and local armed forces trying to take back the city, these things breath life into the game. Aka shit that Destiny doesn't have outside of the fraking tower (loooooooool).

I've only put around 3 hours into The Division and I'm already having more fun than any of those hours I put into that shit Destiny game, not to mention the game looks pretty good even on the PS4.

@Ballroompirate: I tried to change my name to Salty_and_Dumb in 2013 but mods did not allow a name change. I don't know what you're trying to show with those pics, they don't even look good. I have never seen a game with more copy/pasted enemies that don't even react to your bullets. Its like shooting at moving trees. Absolutely mediocre. Spongy enemies is alright, i don't mind having to unload multiple clips per enemy, but when they don't react to ANYTHING (unless they're unshielded/armored enemies) the shooting becomes a chore. Reminds me of Elder Scrolls melee combat system, you swing a massive hammer and your enemy doesn't care.

Can PC players play with Xbox One players with live?

You mean the same bullet sponges like Borderlands AND Destiny mobs, you do realize The Division is a TPS RPG right. It would be not only dumb and pointless if mobs died in 1 hit for a RPG loot based game cause it would be POINTLESS to even upgrade your gear.

So please go back to your corner.

I was debating whether to get it for PC or PS4 and I ending up getting it on PS4 even though I have a gtx 980 in my rig.

I tried the beta on PS4 and I thought it looked really good and I had lots of fun.

I played for about 5 hours now, and I have to say it's so much better than Destiny or Borderlands.

The RPG elements are a lot deeper than I thought it would be, witch is a good think.

The only problem so far, I didn't see much variety in the enemies, also the AI is pretty stupid sometimes.

It does look better on PC but get on the system where your friends are playing.

Watched 3 big Twitch streamers and all of them got tired of the game says it is generic and dull, repetitive quests.

Already writing from a corner, thanks for noticing. I told you, i don't have the problem (many do, tho) with the spongy enemies, that doesn't bother me. Huge fan of Borderlands and i loved their sponginess there. What bothers me is the no reaction to your bullets and copy pasted enemies everywhere in the game. That isn't present in any games with spongy enemies... You try so hard to defend this POS lol. If this is an RPG then so is Destiny lmao. The Division is your middle of the road generic shooter with the Tom Clancy logo on the box. Reading reviews on Steam were so entertaining, probably more entertaining than everything in the actual game.

yup. Watch Dansgaming and he'll sum it up nicely without bias.

Never played Destiny but better than Borderlands? Lol.

Given Destiny's outcome and reputation, I'm surprised to see so many eager to buy The Division. Hope you guys get your money's worth and don't come to regret buying it later on.

Yeah i don't think it'd top Borderlands 2 , have to play it first tho

Well graphics at this point is a stupid point for me. Starting with last gen games graphics have reached a level where I can clearly see what everything is supposed to be. They're realistic enough for me. Division looks fine. I am enjoying it so far. Just like Destiny, get it where you will play with others is my advice.

Couple of reviews from Steam.

"Game is so boring. Same missions, same enemy models, your main target its farming equipment in pvp zone, forget about storyline. Thank you Ubi for one more piece of s***."

"Ubisoft has a brilliant scheme in which you wait in line of players for two hours so you can't refund the game."

">Ubisoft services are not avaiable at this time. Try again later or go offline>Go online to activate this game. Genius"

"Another corporate grab at mmo/fps/cross-platform gaming. Super dissapointment. I can not, in good faith, reccomend this to any gamer expecting anything impressive. This game is sub-par.... When I say that, I mean that it should be a free to play with a few DLC skins tossed in to the mix. Game is insanely dissapointing. I don't toss my $60 purchase around lightly. Request your refund from steam while you still can."

"Bullshot advertising, terrible character customization, uplay, grindy, bullet sponge enemies even though advertising would have you believe otherwise, uplay, game servers down day one, incredibly poor play testing (most people can't even get out of the prologue currently), always online, uplay, no player trading, can't decide what genre it wants to be, heavy penalties for engaging in PvP for very limited reward. Did I mention uplay?Bravo Ubisoft, bravo. Another fine piece of trash for your garbage heap of a gaming library. I feel stupid for even thinking this one might be different."

"Amazing first few hours, suddenly content slows down and you see the same ♥♥♥♥ over and over and over. Same boring missions, same boring AI clones and dialogue, constant farming for loot...60 USD, lol." <-----------does that reminds you of any game!? Its literally exactly what i've been saying since the closed beta... I can't believe people are denying the negative points of this game. You simply can't.

No, this game is not "good" like some people say.

I still don't understand how anyone enjoyed the beta to begin with. I got bored so damn fast with the beta. I hated the UI and I could already see that it was going to have bullet sponge enemies that would get stale fairly quickly.

Did not buy Destiny after the beta (even if I actually enjoyed the core gameplay of that one, it hinted at some serious issues) and I sure as hell wasn't buying this game even with multiple friends freaking out about it's impending release.

Quick Look for those interested

The premise of gaming with friends with an open world type mission with rpg elements seems appealing. I'm holding off till I know more about it through reviews. I skipped Destiny at launch and got Taken King and that's pretty good, so maybe there is hope for this game down the road?

its a loot shooter. Even if the game isn't good, when played with friends its still decently enjoyable. If you have a crew ready, get the game. But when they're busy and you're forced to play alone...... your head will explore from how boring and empty the world feels. This game has a lot of problems but the biggest is the fact that out the Dark Zone, you don't see other players. Its so stupid. Its so dumb that i don't get it why??? Why not allow to see other players running around like you'd see in Destiny or actual mmo's? They've already done that in the Dark Zone so why the hell not in the normal zone? LOLUbi and their incredibly stupidity.

You do realize Borderlands (all of them) and Destiny is waaaay worse when it comes down to copy/pasting enemies right?

Are you high? Go to sleep...

@silversix_: you spend way too much time on games you supposedly hate

PC if anything, obviously. I played the Beta myself with some friends, and we pretty much all thought it sucked. I wouldn't recommend it.

Both are good games but I can understand silversix when he's talking about ubisoft.

But ubisoft made a good game this time around. The character customization doesn't have a lot of choices indeed but it can easily fix that with the clothing, armor, guns etc. The graphics in this game are simply amazing an the type of enemies are a lot more versatile than you think. The gameplay in the division is a lot more tactical than destiny. The graphics are the best I've seen on the console.

I haven't even been in the dark zone yet and I've played non stop with friends yesterday.

This is coming from a person that only played destiny for a couple of days, it's a good game too, but I came late to the party there.

Give the division a chance, you won't regret it, If you liked destiny , you will like this game.

@Juub1990: To me personally I'm enjoying it more than Borderlands.

I didn't like the art style too much and the story wasn't that great.

But this is my opinion, it doesn't have to be true , it's just what I like better.

why is that?

Are the graphics improved from the Beta?

the beta was ugly as hell on the PS4, even on my nice calibrated TV it was bland

I do. How does that make you feel?

There have been many PC shooters where I wreck fools while using a controller. I ALWAYS used a controller when playing Titanfall on PC and was on top 90% of the time. The Battlefield series was the only one that forced me to use mouse and keyboard. The Xbox Elite controller has been great for PC gaming.