DLC is hurting games!

Think about it! When has the anouncment of DLC for a game once changed the way you go about making a purchase? If you ask me, I think the majority of most companies waste A LOT of money paying people to come up with stupid ideas. Sure it makes them money but I think it hurts the true final product of a game. I think DLC in general is over rated and it will eventually hit its tipping point and lose it's flare, if it even has as much as it seems to have....I've bought DLC, don't get me wrong, but its getting pretty silly the way DLC is being pushed in the market. DLC seems to get more focus then the actual game itself these days with anouncments of DLC even before a game hits store shelves!

The last DLC I think I bought was the lost and damned GTAIV. I've bought a couple map packs in the past for Halo3 and CoD4 and I think I bought almost everything downloadable for Oblivion (the only DLC well worth every penny in my books). I don't play the FPS's as much anymore since the days of CoD4 and the MW2 map pack well not see a cent from me. Don't even get me started on payed unlock for content already on a disc. What ever happened to finely crafting a game. DLC should be a thought after the fact, something a dev just couldn't leave out forever, or a huge pack of content that just didn't make the final cut when the game was being completed. It should be special, something wanted by the fans and created for them.

What are your thoughts on the DLC craze and where do you see it going?

This topic was inspired by this recent post here in the forums....if your wondering!

Overrated?? all i ever see are threads with people moaning about it.

Overrated?? all i ever see are threads with people moaning about it.

dog_dirt

Overrated?? all i ever see are threads with people moaning about it.

dog_dirt

Way to not read my whole post :)

I think the idea behind DLC was intended to create replayability of older gamesduring long development cycles of new games. I do agree that some companies (EA and Activision) get carried away and overcharge.

(1) What ever happened to finely crafting a game. (2) DLC should be a thought after the fact, something a dev just couldn't leave out forever, (3) or a huge pack of content that just didn't make the final cut when the game was being completed. (4) It should be special, something wanted by the fans and created for them.Cujo31

yes the dlcs hurt games like fallout 3 and borderlands , not

but capcomish already on disk dlc $ucks i have to agree , although it doesnt hurt the game (vs in RE5)as much as it pisses off when you buy a full price game and they lock out stuff from you and wanting cash for that

There is good DLC and bad DLC, just like games. Good is when you have expansions that add more hours of replay value at a reasonable price, such as the GTAIV/Fallout 3 expansions.

Bad are the evident cash ins to nickel and dime consumers, such as paying money for costumes and game modes (RE5, Street Fighter 4)

im personally that a huge fan of DLC...but developers simply need the extra dough with the cost of making games today though i wish they'd find alternative ways of bringing in more revenuekidcool189

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]im personally that a huge fan of DLC...but developers simply need the extra dough with the cost of making games today though i wish they'd find alternative ways of bringing in more revenueAmnesiaHaze

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]im personally that a huge fan of DLC...but developers simply need the extra dough with the cost of making games today though i wish they'd find alternative ways of bringing in more revenueAmnesiaHaze

No consumers are hurting games, its all ways been the consumer that hurts the game never the company.

the company does what the consumer wants or seems to want, buyin useless dlc makes them make useless dlc, buying dlc that was obviously part of the game any ways makes them make dlc out of content they could have added to the game.

If the consumer would simply do research to find out what content is worthwhile high quality then we'd all be better off...But as allways the consumer ruins their own area of the culture.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="kidcool189"]im personally that a huge fan of DLC...but developers simply need the extra dough with the cost of making games today though i wish they'd find alternative ways of bringing in more revenuekidcool189

everybody needs money but pissing off customers who already bought your game isnt a good strategy imo for the future , however dlc support like gearbox offers has my respect and i keep supporting them , that's the differnce , you can do DLC the "capcom" way or the "gearbox" way ,

concerning the DD , i think it is similar to pirating here where : no pirating possibility =/= automatically a sale , some people just don't have the money to buy games (@ full price) so removing the possibility to get it cheaper or free doesnt result into sales automatically only in a small percentage , also 100% DD wouldnt be good considering not everybody has internet or only a slow connection priced on data transfer etc. ... maybe the sales would be even worse compared to now ,

i dont like digital games as much as my physical copies , i just have the feeling i buy something "real" as odd it may sound it's just how i'm used to buy games and if ps3 would go 100% DD like psp-go i wouldnt even be able to buy games (no psn store support in my country)

[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] what do you think bout already on disk dlcs or launch date dlcs , such content should be included in the full game already as its finished on time , theyre removing stuff on purpose here and not creating additional content later , pure greed imo i think they should at least wait for them to be released and NEVER Include dlcs on disk to avoid pissing of their customers who know that (especially capcom)AmnesiaHaze

everybody needs money but pissing off customers who already bought your game isnt a good strategy imo for the future , however dlc support like gearbox offers has my respect and i keep supporting them , that's the differnce , you can do DLC the "capcom" way or the "gearbox" way ,

concerning the DD , i think it is similar to pirating here where : no pirating possibility =/= automatically a sale , some people just don't have the money to buy games (@ full price) so removing the possibility to get it cheaper or free doesnt result into sales automatically only in a small percentage , also 100% DD wouldnt be good considering not everybody has internet or only a slow connection priced on data transfer etc. ... maybe the sales would be even worse compared to now ,

i dont like digital games as much as my physical copies , i just have the feeling i buy something "real" as odd it may sound it's just how i'm used to buy games and if ps3 would go 100% DD like psp-go i wouldnt even be able to buy games (no psn store support in my country)

DLC as a whole is not hurting gaming. They are optional, and provide longevity to people's games.

Oft times, it is something that could not make it to final retail of the game, due to time constraints and/or lack of budget.

This explains more than i can....rartatatat

See ya' later... Hopefully someone picks up on your regular acct so that can get banned aswell.

[QUOTE="rartatatat"] This explains more than i can....lundy86_4

See ya' later... Hopefully someone picks up on your regular acct so that can get banned aswell.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"][QUOTE="kidcool189"]im personally that a huge fan of DLC...but developers simply need the extra dough with the cost of making games today though i wish they'd find alternative ways of bringing in more revenuekidcool189

I'm sure it would have been done already if it could have been, but it sucks how the gaming industry can't get some sort of royalty from the sale of used games....have they tried this route?

[QUOTE="Cujo31"](1) What ever happened to finely crafting a game. (2) DLC should be a thought after the fact, something a dev just couldn't leave out forever, (3) or a huge pack of content that just didn't make the final cut when the game was being completed. (4) It should be special, something wanted by the fans and created for them.Senor_Kami

This logical approach to considering the merits of DLC has no place in SW! :P

TC I couldnt agree more. DLC should be the very last thing developers think about. They should put all their efforts into making the game the way it was envisioned. Right now, they allocate ideas and time in the development process just for DLC. Theres no denying that. I personally dont want DLC at all. I want the retail product to be the final product just like how a movie or a book cant be added to. You cant add content to a book or a movie so everyone gets the same experience. Thats the way games should be.

I think there are just more dumb people than there are smart people in this world so most gamers end up buying into the DLC scam. The rest of us smarter guys who see the problems DLC bring have to suffer because these other guys dont. And explaining to them is pointless. DLC is doing more harm than good. The idea of DLC is like giving a gun to everyone to protect themselves when everything would be better without one.

Im still partially open to the idea of expansion discs. If the content is truly worth your money and can extend the life of your game, it should be large enough to fill up a disc.

Oh yeah, do you guys remember the days of unlocking extra skins after beating the game? Or entering a cheat code to change skins or enable low gravity? Welcome to the age of DLC where you have to pay for all that. Skins, DLC, maps, chreat codes and on disc content.

Most of the DLC sold today at $1.99 is "content" that we would have gotten for free back in the PS1 days. Extra weapon slots, horse armor, Versus mode, skins, etc. Its just a simple code devs have to write or edit. Back then they were rewards given to us for playing the game and support the developer. Do you guys like paying for things that should be free? I wish this new generation of gullible gamers never came along. Things would be so much better for us. Its so pathetic the way things turned out.

Reminds me of the Holocaust. It only happened because people let it.

Mass Effect 2 is basically an unfinished game without Cerberus Network. Everyone that got the game new shouldn't have to pay another penny for its DLC.tomarlyn