Do Cows really believe The PS3 will outsell the 360 this holliday season?!

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#1 Huxley_08
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The 360 might have the best fall lineup ever!

Madden(60 FPS exclusive)

GTA

Halo3

All can be owned on one system..

A gamer that just buys systems for Madden and GTA.. what system is he going to chose? the cheaper one of course..

Plus Even though the 360 is 200 bucks cheaper.. Madden will play 2 times better..

really.. I understand cows thinking the PS3 can outsell the 360 next year.. but it doesn't stand a chance this year..

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Only Wii can beat 360 in console sales. And that doens't mean 360 still can't win.
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#3 jg4xchamp
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PS3 version is now 60 fps. so no.

But yeah 360 will outsell PS3 this holiday. Halo 3 alone is gonna sell a ton. Throw in a possible price drop, GTA 4 and other major multiplats looking identical if not better on a console much cheaper than the PS3.

360 has everything setup for another good holiday run.
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Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.
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#5 Huxley_08
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PS3 version is now 60 fps. so no.

jg4xchamp

really?

link?

Dang I guess I'm a little slow on the news lol

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#6 bloodyclot
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I think the 360 needs a price cut to really rocket this year, if it gets the rumored $100 price cut I think it can really compete and maybe even salvage a the lead until next year, if not the wii will over take it and the PS3 will pull closer than the abysmal hole it was in. Give the 360 a $100 price cut, and you'll be tossing dirt in Sony's Grave, and Sony will have even a harder time clawing their way out. (with sonys 08 lineup that isn't out of question, but if the 360 cuts a $100 off its going to be a hard fought battle.)
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Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.Ibacai

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

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#9 Nike_Air
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Worldwide ? I think it has a chance.

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]PS3 version is now 60 fps. so no.

Huxley_08

really?

link?

Dang I guess I'm a little slow on the news lol

Nah, that was wrong. The interviewerer misinterpreted the dev, But 60 FPS is HARDLY noticeably over 30 fps. I compared the NCAA08 XBL demo to the PS3 version (Before my 360 died :cry: ), and its not too much of a difference. Nothing casuals will notice anyway

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.WalterPaladines

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

Oh, by 500 units, right after price drop! Whoopty freaking doo.
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yes
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.WalterPaladines

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

Bias against the PS3? Me? PFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's why a lot of people call me a cow. You need to learn a good lesson. Weekly sales charts in the US are guesses. While i do believe the PS3 is outselling the 360 at the moment we have no factual proof. Another point is that this is about the holiday season, not this week. Who knows what will happen next week.
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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.BigDaddyPOLO

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

Oh, by 500 units, right after price drop! Whoopty freaking doo.

6,000 units exactly
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How long was the 360 out before the PS3 and how many 360's are selling now. The 360 has fallen very short of what sales should be at this time and sales are not doing much now. Sony has been selling just about on schedule from the time it was released (although there have been changes made in the short time it's been out).
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.WalterPaladines

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

that's just one week bub, and it's only 6,000 more consoles, plus pos3 still has a looooooooooonnnng way to go so quit claiming victory for yourselves already

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[QUOTE="Huxley_08"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]PS3 version is now 60 fps. so no.

asdasd

really?

link?

Dang I guess I'm a little slow on the news lol

Nah, that was wrong. The interviewerer misinterpreted the dev, But 60 FPS is HARDLY noticeably over 30 fps. I compared the NCAA08 XBL demo to the PS3 version, and its not too much of a difference. Nothing casuals will notice anyway

to me and the average gamer it's a huge difference because The better version is coming out on the lower priced system..

So maybe the average gamer would have chosen the madden on the more epensive console expecting it to be better but that's not going to be the case..

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[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.flashattackfina

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

Oh, by 500 units, right after price drop! Whoopty freaking doo.

6,000 units exactly

Oh well then I must suck at math or something, because I was sure that it wasn't nearly that much. :roll:
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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.Ibacai

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

Bias against the PS3? Me? PFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's why a lot of people call me a cow. You need to learn a good lesson. Weekly sales charts are guesses. While i do believe the PS3 is outselling the 360 at the moment we have no factual proof. Another point is that this is about the holiday season, not this week. Who knows what will happen next week.

It's been shown VGcharts is off by about 10%, that means the PS3 could be selling lower or higher than the amount stated, BUT considering the PS3 has been selling out a few retailers VGcharts could be underestimating the sales.

On the other hand you are pessimistic when it comes to predictions for the PS3, so I would have to disagree with you.

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#21 Huxley_08
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How long was the 360 out before the PS3 and how many 360's are selling now. The 360 has fallen very short of what sales should be at this time and sales are not doing much now. Sony has been selling just about on schedule from the time it was released (although there have been changes made in the short time it's been out).jimm895

No.. it's selling poorly right now but come Halo3,Madden,GTA.. it's going to sell much more than the PS3 and maybe even more than the Wii if there is a price drop.

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[QUOTE="asdasd"][QUOTE="Huxley_08"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]PS3 version is now 60 fps. so no.

Huxley_08

really?

link?

Dang I guess I'm a little slow on the news lol

Nah, that was wrong. The interviewerer misinterpreted the dev, But 60 FPS is HARDLY noticeably over 30 fps. I compared the NCAA08 XBL demo to the PS3 version, and its not too much of a difference. Nothing casuals will notice anyway

to me and the average gamer it's a huge difference because The better version is coming out on the lower priced system..

So maybe the average gamer would have chosen the madden on the more epensive console expecting it to be better but that's not going to be the case..

Madden will sell more on the 360, but not because its 60 fps. It will sell more because the 360 is cheaper and there is more of a install base. Averege gamers would hardly notice the difference between the 30 fps and 60 fps. I personally am picking up the PS3 version because I dont want to buy another year of live but I want to play it online lol. I played Madden in 30 fps last year on 360, wont mind doing it again.

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#23 the-very-best
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Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

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#24 Frunku
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Noob 1: I say that the 360 will outsell the PS3!

Noob 2: Well, I say that the PS3 will outsell the 360!

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Bottom line: We'll see on january first.

Speculation is useless.

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#25 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.WalterPaladines

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

Bias against the PS3? Me? PFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's why a lot of people call me a cow. You need to learn a good lesson. Weekly sales charts are guesses. While i do believe the PS3 is outselling the 360 at the moment we have no factual proof. Another point is that this is about the holiday season, not this week. Who knows what will happen next week.

It's been shown VGcharts is off by about 10%, that means the PS3 could be selling lower or higher than the amount stated, BUT considering the PS3 has been selling out a few retailers VGcharts could be underestimating the sales.

On the other hand you are pessimistic when it comes to predictions for the PS3, so I would have to disagree with you.

You can disagree with me all you like. People can have different predictions. But Vgcharts isn't off by just a flat 10%. http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=355
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#26 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Worldwide ? I think it has a chance.

WalterPaladines

Let's see the PS3 is OUTSELLING the 360 in Japan, Europe, America right now, go check VG charts.

To the ignorant comment the thread creator made, yes the PS3 madden runs at 60fps.

/thread failed

TLHBO

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#27 NorthlandMan
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Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

the-very-best

Wii will win in software sales as well due to strength of their first party games (as well as the casual crap that the public seem to find so enthralling)

PS3 will make significant gains though and i expect their software sales to start to dominate next year when we start to see the true superiority of PS3 games

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#28 Nike_Air
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Worldwide ? I think it has a chance.

WalterPaladines

Let's see the PS3 is OUTSELLING the 360 in Japan, Europe, America right now, go check VG charts.

To the ignorant comment the thread creator made, yes the PS3 madden runs at 60fps.

/thread failed

TLHBO

While that may be true , the facts aren't in yet ....... and basically the 360 is going to have a pricedrop this year too. It should be a good battle.

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#29 Eltroz
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Well last Christmas -

360 sold - 1,100.00 So 360 has proven to be able to sell great at Christmas

PS3 sold - 491,000 This was the second month for the release of PS3 so there was still a ton of hype for it.

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

NorthlandMan

Wii will win in software sales as well due to strength of their first party games (as well as the casual crap that the public seem to find so enthralling)

PS3 will make significant gains though and i expect their software sales to start to dominate next year when we start to see the true superiority of PS3 games

Maybe you're right about the Wii software sales but 360 has amazing games this Christmas. Halo 3 and GTAIV. 2 of the biggest series from last gen are going to cause a storm in software sales.

If Wii can beat 360 in total software sales that would truly be an outstanding achievement.

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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"]Well, outselling the 360 is out of the question in my opinion. I just don't see it happening with a $500-$600 price for the PS3. Having a better lineup is subjective.Ibacai

The PS3 is outselling the 360 right now check the weekly chart, don't try to predict things when you're being proven wrong right now, I smell bias here.

Bias against the PS3? Me? PFFT HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. That's why a lot of people call me a cow. You need to learn a good lesson. Weekly sales charts are guesses. While i do believe the PS3 is outselling the 360 at the moment we have no factual proof. Another point is that this is about the holiday season, not this week. Who knows what will happen next week.

It's been shown VGcharts is off by about 10%, that means the PS3 could be selling lower or higher than the amount stated, BUT considering the PS3 has been selling out a few retailers VGcharts could be underestimating the sales.

On the other hand you are pessimistic when it comes to predictions for the PS3, so I would have to disagree with you.

You can disagree with me all you like. People can have different predictions. But Vgcharts isn't off by just a flat 10%. http://www.vgchartz.com/news/news.php?id=355

I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

NorthlandMan

Wii will win in software sales as well due to strength of their first party games (as well as the casual crap that the public seem to find so enthralling)

Madden,GTA,Halo say no

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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

the-very-best

Wii will win in software sales as well due to strength of their first party games (as well as the casual crap that the public seem to find so enthralling)

PS3 will make significant gains though and i expect their software sales to start to dominate next year when we start to see the true superiority of PS3 games

Maybe you're right about the Wii software sales but 360 has amazing games this Christmas. Halo 3 and GTAIV. 2 of the biggest series from last gen are going to cause a storm in software sales.

If Wii can beat 360 in total software sales that would truly be an outstanding achievement.

What's your point with GTA4? that game is a multiplatform and will be released simultaneously on the PS3.

I could say PS3 will sell better because we have Heavenly Sword and GTA4, see I can use your logic as well. :roll:

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Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

the-very-best
hmmm id question that as well. Although PS3 has japan more than 360 so thats a given. But i dont think europe and everybody else will go PS3 over 360. One of the big european selling games are GT and getaway(i dont know why) and they wont be out this year. 360 has a racer in Project Gothem Racing 4, has some big shooters in Halo 3, Bioshock, and GTA 4 isnt exclusive to Sony this year. I think on the dominant US sales over PS3, 360 will be miles ahead this holiday season. While the wii stomps on both.
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

Huxley_08

Wii will win in software sales as well due to strength of their first party games (as well as the casual crap that the public seem to find so enthralling)

Madden,GTA,Halo say no

Moms looking for a cheap console as a gift to their kids say yes

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I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.WalterPaladines
And there is another misconception. It was sold at Amazon.com for a few hours, sold out at CircuitCity.com, Target, and Walmart.com....... These are not all major retailers. That's being sold out on the internet sites of a few major retailers. And they aren't sold out anymore.
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I actually think it will but on a very small margine.
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

Worldwide I think the PS3 has a chance to beat the 360 in total hardware sales this Christmas.

Software sales are all for the 360 though, and Wii will be in the lead of hardware sales.

Huxley_08

Wii will win in software sales as well due to strength of their first party games (as well as the casual crap that the public seem to find so enthralling)

Madden,GTA,Halo say no

you know madden and GTA is on ps3 too right ?
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I don't see why it couldn't happen. (provided they have enough stock of the 60 gig)
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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.Ibacai
And there is another misconception. It was sold at Amazon.com for a few hours, sold out at CircuitCity.com, and Walmart.com....... These are not all major retailers. That's being sold out on the internet sites of a few major retailers.

Sorry buddy but the PS3 is no.1 selling item on Amazon, also It's still sold out at circuit city, my brother's friend wants to buy a PS3 but he can't find one.

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.WalterPaladines

And there is another misconception. It was sold at Amazon.com for a few hours, sold out at CircuitCity.com, and Walmart.com....... These are not all major retailers. That's being sold out on the internet sites of a few major retailers.

Sorry buddy but the PS3 is no.1 selling item on Amazon, also It's still sold out at circuit city, my brother's friend wants to buy a PS3 but he can't find one.

What's number one at Amazon? http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_1/103-2795065-0227801 Want some other sites to find a PS3 in stock?
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#44 the-very-best
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What's your point with GTA4? that game is a multiplatform and will be released simultaneously on the PS3.

I could say PS3 will sell better because we have Heavenly Sword and GTA4, see I can use your logic as well. :roll:

WalterPaladines

In what? Software sales? Hardware sales?

My argument is that 360 will dominate software sales because the user base is bigger than the PS3s so more people will be able to jump into Halo 3 and GTAIV.

While I think PS3 will beat 360 in total hardware sales because consumers will jump into the PS3 when they see Haze, UT3, GTAIV, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Uncharted all out this holiday season.

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#45 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.Ibacai

And there is another misconception. It was sold at Amazon.com for a few hours, sold out at CircuitCity.com, and Walmart.com....... These are not all major retailers. That's being sold out on the internet sites of a few major retailers.

Sorry buddy but the PS3 is no.1 selling item on Amazon, also It's still sold out at circuit city, my brother's friend wants to buy a PS3 but he can't find one.

What's number one at Amazon? http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_1/103-2795065-0227801 Want some other sites to find a PS3 in stock?

quit bashing the ps3
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#46 Mil-m5
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With a price drop yes.
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#47 mentzer
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The 360 might have the best fall lineup ever!

Madden(60 FPS exclusive)

GTA

Halo3

All can be owned on one system..

A gamer that just buys systems for Madden and GTA.. what system is he going to chose? the cheaper one of course..

Plus Even though the 360 is 200 bucks cheaper.. Madden will play 2 times better..

really.. I understand cows thinking the PS3 can outsell the 360 next year.. but it doesn't stand a chance this year..

Huxley_08

PS2 had the best fall lineup ever.

GTA 3

MGS 2

FFX

Madden

THP 3

DMC

SSX Tricky

NFL 2K2

And PS3 have some heavy hitters coming out this fall. Plus don't forget the games that come out before the official Fall start date that will continue to sell into the holiday season.

PS3 has a chance.

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#48 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.flashattackfina

And there is another misconception. It was sold at Amazon.com for a few hours, sold out at CircuitCity.com, and Walmart.com....... These are not all major retailers. That's being sold out on the internet sites of a few major retailers.

Sorry buddy but the PS3 is no.1 selling item on Amazon, also It's still sold out at circuit city, my brother's friend wants to buy a PS3 but he can't find one.

What's number one at Amazon? http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_1/103-2795065-0227801 Want some other sites to find a PS3 in stock?

quit bashing the ps3

Is that what you think I'm doing? Truly?
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#49 flashattackfina
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[QUOTE="flashattackfina"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.Ibacai

And there is another misconception. It was sold at Amazon.com for a few hours, sold out at CircuitCity.com, and Walmart.com....... These are not all major retailers. That's being sold out on the internet sites of a few major retailers.

Sorry buddy but the PS3 is no.1 selling item on Amazon, also It's still sold out at circuit city, my brother's friend wants to buy a PS3 but he can't find one.

What's number one at Amazon? http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_1/103-2795065-0227801 Want some other sites to find a PS3 in stock?

quit bashing the ps3

Is that what you think I'm doing? Truly?

yes kinda
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#50 WalterPaladines
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[QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="WalterPaladines"]I said "about 10%" and they can be over or under estimating, considering the PS3 is selling out in all the major retailers my guess is they are underestimating PS3 sales.Ibacai

And there is another misconception. It was sold at Amazon.com for a few hours, sold out at CircuitCity.com, and Walmart.com....... These are not all major retailers. That's being sold out on the internet sites of a few major retailers.

Sorry buddy but the PS3 is no.1 selling item on Amazon, also It's still sold out at circuit city, my brother's friend wants to buy a PS3 but he can't find one.

What's number one at Amazon? http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_1/103-2795065-0227801 Want some other sites to find a PS3 in stock?

I see it went down to no.3 on Amazon that does not take away the fact that it is outselling the 360.