Do games with a good story campaign and good multiplayer exist anymore?

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#1 SolidGame_basic  Online
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It seems like these are harder to come by now. Call of Duty just got rid of their single player campaign. I guess most people weren't playing it. It may happen to Battlefield too. Are there any good games that actually have both a good story campaign and a good multiplayer? Sony tried to shoe horn multiplayer into games like Uncharted and Last of Us, but most people played them for the single player experience.

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#3 nepu7supastar7
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@SolidGame_basic:

I was hoping Halo 5 could be that one but alas...campaign sucked. Goddamn 343i, you can't trust them to make a respectable Halo unless it's a remake of a Bungie entry.

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#4 npiet1
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@gamesspottroll:Far cry 5 arcade is terrible, except for the map shovel wars.

@SolidGame_basic: Cod have a 1 god awful SP (WWII) and they remove it, But yeah no game has had both since cod WW2 or Halo 3.

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#5 Telekill
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I think The Last of Us was ironically the last I played with both an incredible single player and a really good multiplayer.

Naughty Dog screwed the pooch (pun intended) with Uncharted 4's multiplayer so I'm not holding my breath for how TLoU2's will be.

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#6  Edited By Sam3231
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Halo, Gears and Forza.

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#7 Bread_or_Decide
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Titanfall had that weird SP/MP thing in the first game. A strange experiment indeed.

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#8 Ant_17
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Souls games.

But it seems single player and multiplayer don't go hand in hand anymore.

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#9 Archangel3371
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There’s been several that I’ve really enjoyed myself like:

- Halo 5

- Gears of War 4

- Forza Motorsport 7

- Forza Horizon 3

- Titanfall 2

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#10 TryIt
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games in my opinion should not have stories, Lore, maybe even active lore like Elite Dangerous does not but not a traditional story

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#11 robert_sparkes
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Halo 3 was the benchmark for me good story campaign excellent multiplayer.

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#12 PurpleMan5000
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It depends on how liberal you want to get with the word "good". Multiplayer games that I really enjoy are very rare. I can't stand GTA online, but enough people play it that I could understand someone saying that it's good.

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#13 deactivated-5c56012aaa167
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Maybe Star Citizen will achieve that. But we have to wait and see.

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Star Fox Zero

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Halo 3 is the benchmark to beat, still 11 years later. Sigh what has happened to this lootbox casino style addiction of games available today :/

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#16 BIack_Goku
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I had more fun with The Last of Us multiplayer than the campaign. The only MP I'd say Naughty Dog has nailed since Crash Team Racing, they created a truly tense MP experience.

If Naughty Dog can replicate the experience with The Last of Us Part 2 it'll be one of the best multiplayer experiences this gen. Hope the people behind Uncharted 4 multiplayer stay far away from it. Don't add too much dumb shit to an already amazing experience, just add a co-op mode and we're good.

Do the Souls games count? They blend the multiplayer aspects into the campaign. Curious what kind of multiplayer Death Stranding might have since it sounds like Kojima wants to do something new with that.

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Splatoon 2.

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#18 SecretPolice
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@jahnee: @robert_sparkes:

Yes indeed. Back in 2007-2008 I used to get all kinds of grief for proclaiming the following... Halo 3 is the finest SP/MP all around single game package in the universe. :P

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#19 ReCloud
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@Ant_17: by lems standards, souls games aren't MP.

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#20 ReCloud
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@tryit: I'm glad you're not in the industry.

I love games that have story, it gives me motivation to keep playing.

Mass Effect (OG trilogy) is stellar because of its story, the same can be said for a lot of RPGs out there.

Storytelling in games are getting better and better and I just love it.

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#21 Ant_17
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@recloud said:

@Ant_17: by lems standards, souls games aren't MP.

Well, lems are on the brink of extinction, so that standard will be dead soon.

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#22  Edited By TryIt
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@recloud said:

@tryit: I'm glad you're not in the industry.

I love games that have story, it gives me motivation to keep playing.

Mass Effect (OG trilogy) is stellar because of its story, the same can be said for a lot of RPGs out there.

Storytelling in games are getting better and better and I just love it.

different tastes clearly.

if I want a good story I will hunt for a good TV series like Hell on Wheels or something.

play time is my interaction time. I want to affect, not be affected

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#23 ReCloud
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@tryit: I have good stories on both and I'm an avid book reader. I don't see why I can't have both.

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#24 ni6htmare01
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@recloud said:

@tryit: I'm glad you're not in the industry.

I love games that have story, it gives me motivation to keep playing.

Mass Effect (OG trilogy) is stellar because of its story, the same can be said for a lot of RPGs out there.

Storytelling in games are getting better and better and I just love it.

I totally agreed.. And don't bother to waste your time to argue with this dude.. It will be endless.

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#25  Edited By TryIt
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@recloud said:

@tryit: I have good stories on both and I'm an avid book reader. I don't see why I can't have both.

I dont think its realistic actually.

reason is, a very good story is good because its a strong narrative, every expression, every subtlity matters to the story. A shoe left on a wire shown early in Better Call Saul has a meaning, if the viewer misses it or doesnt think on it then it looses its impact.

Its really hard to do that kind of strong creative narrative while at the same time giving the player freedom.

its almost like two completely different opposing objectives. more freedom means better game play, less freedom means better story telling.

its really hard to mix the two in my opinion.

I think the human brain works in two main gears, one is being engaged while the other is observing.

mixing the two constantly I think is not good.

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@npiet1 said:

@gamesspottroll:Far cry 5 arcade is terrible, except for the map shovel wars.

@SolidGame_basic: Cod have a 1 god awful SP (WWII) and they remove it, But yeah no game has had both since cod WW2 or Halo 3.

Far Cry 5 does have nice co-op, though.

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#27  Edited By ReCloud
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@tryit: the last of us, god of war, mass effect final fantasy series, and others beg to differ.

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#28  Edited By TryIt
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@recloud said:

@tryit: the last of us, god of war, mass effect final fantasy series, and others beg to differ.

I bet they do not.

I seriously doubt any of those stories are as in depth and of the quality of lets say Amazons series Goliath.

They might be just as interesting for young minds but for more 'sophisticated' (so to speak) audiences I highly doubt it

AND if they even come close, the only parts that could would be the cut scenes, which is not the game anyway

so when talking about 'stories in games' its important to remove ALL cutscenes from the equation, but that is not the game, that is a mini movie

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#29 darkzoomer
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Titanfall 2 had a campaign that took CoD4's approach to level design, and mixed it with mechanics that were actually decent and had a solid multiplayer to back it up. Everything else though has either focused heavily on either single or multiplayer, or just did both poorly.

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#30 Howmakewood
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@recloud: if those are your examples of good stories in video games it truly shows the level of story telling in the medium

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#31 hrt_rulz01
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Gears 4 was pretty solid on both accounts.

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#32 ReCloud
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@howmakewood: well, as a matter of fact, they are, you can try and downplay them all you want but they are, sorry

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#33 npiet1
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@darkzoomer said:

Titanfall 2 had a campaign that took CoD4's approach to level design, and mixed it with mechanics that were actually decent and had a solid multiplayer to back it up. Everything else though has either focused heavily on either single or multiplayer, or just did both poorly.

I forgot about titanfall 2, if they did commit suicide with the release date it would of been more popular.

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#34 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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Well not when it comes to Sony's games. I mean Sony charge for MP and create very few games with MP, cows are easily milked.

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@i_p_daily: Oh god you're a broken record. The trolls on this site need a major overhaul and a lot of new material.

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@vfighter said:

@i_p_daily: Oh god you're a broken record. The trolls on this site need a major overhaul and a lot of new material.

Its the truth sorry that hurts you, maybe you should be not paying for it then.

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