Do not buy the 1tb PlayStation 4 (yet)

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#1 NyaDC
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The New 1TB PS4 is Still Using Old Hardware

Sony recently revised the PS4 hardware, sneaking out a new model that was less power hungry, quieter and cooler - but it seems the new hardware hasn’t been used on PS4s that are now being sold with a 1TB hard drive.

Our pals at TechRadar have issued a stark warning not to buy the 1TB version of the console if you’re planning to buy a PS4 - and urging you to pick up the 500GB version instead.

The reason is because the 500GB version on shelves is the “CUH-1200” version of the hardware - which is 36% more power efficient when in rest mode and will use 25% less power when operating, whereas the 1TB version is the old model, “CUH-1100”, just with a bigger disk slapped inside.

The new version of the hardware also has a smaller motherboard and a redesigned Blu-Ray drive.

http://gizmodo.com/the-new-1tb-ps4-is-still-using-old-hardware-1727464047

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#2  Edited By imt558
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"Do not buy the 1tb PlayStation 4 (yet)"

What a stupid headline, LOL! Well, must be sold anyway. So what if it is the old model? What will happen? If you buy it.

Same shit if you write : "don't buy a PS4 until Slim model comes out"

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#3  Edited By A-new-Guardian
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Thanks for the report. Gonna wait for the better model equipped with 1TB or just a slim model whenever they announce one.

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#4 NyaDC
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@imt558 said:

"Do not buy the 1tb PlayStation 4 (yet)"

What a stupid headline, LOL! Well, must be sold anyway. So what if it is the old model? What will happen? If you buy it.

Same shit if you write : "don't buy a PS4 until Slim model comes out"

How is it a stupid headline? Your post is stupid, they're liquidating their existing and old CUH-1100 stock in the 1tb models to get rid of them.

Why would you knowingly buy something that's going to run hotter, create more noise and cost you more money in electricity when there is a more efficient model available?

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Thats some sneaky shat right there.

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Don't buy a PS4,yet.

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So they put out a new version of it and there's still no HDMI 2.0? Wtf.

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#8  Edited By imt558
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@nyadc said:

How is it a stupid headline? Your post is stupid, they're liquidating their existing and old CUH-1100 stock in the 1tb models to get rid of them.

Why would you knowingly buy something that's going to run hotter, create more noise and cost you more money in electricity when there is a more efficient model available?

And that's the catch, dude. You can buy 1TB for 399€.

Don't buy 1TB for 399€, buy 500GB instead for 399€. LOL! That's why headline is stupid.

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#9 Cheleman
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i pre ordered the destiny bundle, am i good?

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@MonsieurX said:

Don't buy a PS4,yet.

Good advice.

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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

How is it a stupid headline? Your post is stupid, they're liquidating their existing and old CUH-1100 stock in the 1tb models to get rid of them.

Why would you knowingly buy something that's going to run hotter, create more noise and cost you more money in electricity when there is a more efficient model available?

And that's the catch, dude. You can buy 1TB for 399€.

Don't buy 1TB for 399€, buy 500GB instead for 399€. LOL! That's why headline is stupid.

Um... The 500 GB PS4 is $400 and the 1TB version is roughly $500+...

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.Unless you get a real killer deal on it, don't buy a PoS4, period.

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#13  Edited By imt558
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@nyadc said:
@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

How is it a stupid headline? Your post is stupid, they're liquidating their existing and old CUH-1100 stock in the 1tb models to get rid of them.

Why would you knowingly buy something that's going to run hotter, create more noise and cost you more money in electricity when there is a more efficient model available?

And that's the catch, dude. You can buy 1TB for 399€.

Don't buy 1TB for 399€, buy 500GB instead for 399€. LOL! That's why headline is stupid.

Um... The 500 GB PS4 is $400 and the 1TB version is roughly $500+...

Did you noticed : ?

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00P7T8H6I/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1PRKP2A82C365P24KETP&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=585296347&pf_rd_i=desktop

I can't find on Amazon US any official 1TB bundle. I know that Sony had no plans for releasing 1TB bundle in US.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/6/22/8822891/ps4-1-tb-hd-release-date

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Just curious, was there actually a real issue with the original PS4?

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#15  Edited By NyaDC
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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:
@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

How is it a stupid headline? Your post is stupid, they're liquidating their existing and old CUH-1100 stock in the 1tb models to get rid of them.

Why would you knowingly buy something that's going to run hotter, create more noise and cost you more money in electricity when there is a more efficient model available?

And that's the catch, dude. You can buy 1TB for 399€.

Don't buy 1TB for 399€, buy 500GB instead for 399€. LOL! That's why headline is stupid.

Um... The 500 GB PS4 is $400 and the 1TB version is roughly $500+...

Did you noticed : ?

http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00P7T8H6I/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=1PRKP2A82C365P24KETP&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=585296347&pf_rd_i=desktop

I can't find on Amazon US official 1TB bundle. I know that Sony had no plans for releasing 1TB bundle in US.

Yes, I did, and that's not the actual MSRP, you can find deals if you look all over the place but the actual asking price is a different matter entirely. Amazon is a horrible retailer to gauge product pricing, they kind of exist outside of the retail market and do whatever they want similar to what Groupon does. Also USD is essentially the world standard for price grading, if you start going to all of these strange markets you get these regional and obscure price shifts that don't accurately reflect the product price.

I could get a PlayStation 4 for $280 new if I dug hard enough, that's not the point, the point is the MSRP. On top of that the CUH-1100 will no doubt have a shorter hardware lifespan not to mention cost you 25% more in electricity.

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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

How is it a stupid headline? Your post is stupid, they're liquidating their existing and old CUH-1100 stock in the 1tb models to get rid of them.

Why would you knowingly buy something that's going to run hotter, create more noise and cost you more money in electricity when there is a more efficient model available?

And that's the catch, dude. You can buy 1TB for 399€.

Don't buy 1TB for 399€, buy 500GB instead for 399€. LOL! That's why headline is stupid.

You aren't thinking about this logically. The "new" 1TB models are still using the first gen internals while the 500GB model is getting the new revisied hardware. He's not saying don't buy a PS4, he's saying don't buy the 1TB model until they start using revisied hardware.

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I'm curious why anybody would buy a PS4 (or an Xbone for that matter) now when Black Friday is less than 3 months away.

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@Shewgenja said:

Just curious, was there actually a real issue with the original PS4?

No.

Lems gonna lem.

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@nyadc said:

On top of that the CUH-1100 will no doubt have a shorter hardware lifespan not to mention cost you 25% more in electricity.

And the reason is....?

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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

On top of that the CUH-1100 will no doubt have a shorter hardware lifespan not to mention cost you 25% more in electricity.

And the reason is....?

It runs hotter, heat destroys electronic components.

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Wow, disgusting move by Sony

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I would be wary if this was like the Xbox360's failure rate pulling some shit again.

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@a-new-guardian: I bought my ps3 right before the slim came out. I learned my lesson, wait until the console price is lower than a budget gaming pc(under $300).

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#24  Edited By imt558
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@nyadc said:

It runs hotter, heat destroys electronic components.

LOL! WTF is this, dude. My AMD cards heated up to 220F ( 100C ) in laptop which is 2 years old. And guess what? Nothing wrong with that cuz components are builded to withstand that kind of heat. Btw. max temp. in OLD PS4 is around 130F which is 60C. And guess what : PS4 ( like Xbone also ) has heat sensor. PS4, if overheated more then they should, will shut down automatically to cool. Just read before you spew some shit :

http://vr-zone.com/articles/sony-engineer-unveils-functional-beauty-ps4s-cooling-system/69852.html

Do you have any official source for the massive meltdowns???

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#25  Edited By Legend002
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Translation: Don't buy the PS4. Xbox needs your help to stay relevant.

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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

It runs hotter, heat destroys electronic components.

LOL! WTF is this, dude. My AMD cards heated up to 220F ( 100C ) in laptop which is 2 years old? And guess what? Nothing wrong with that cuz components are builded to withstand that kind of heat. Btw. max temp. in OLD PS4 is around 130F which is 60C. And guess what : PS4 ( like Xbone also ) has heat sensor. PS4, if overheated more then they should, will shut down automatically to cool.

Do you have any official source for the massive meltdowns???

Hey danny drama, I didn't say it was going to burn up so cool your jets, I said heat destroys electronic components. The more heat that is applied will result in inevitable and sooner hardware failure...

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#27  Edited By silversix_
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Nya is still melting since Gears thread

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#28  Edited By imt558
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@nyadc said:

Hey danny drama, I didn't say it was going to burn up so cool your jets, I said heat destroys electronic components. The more heat that is applied will result in inevitable and sooner hardware failure...

But 130 F @ max. is success for electronic components. That's not heat. That's really low temperature for componets under heavy load. It's a success!

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#29  Edited By Legend002
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@silversix_: LOL Gears is not even an exclusive either.

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#30  Edited By NyaDC
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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

Hey danny drama, I didn't say it was going to burn up so cool your jets, I said heat destroys electronic components. The more heat that is applied will result in inevitable and sooner hardware failure...

But 130 F @ max. is success for electronic components. That's not heat. That's normal temperature for componets under heavy load.

What will last longer, a CPU operating at an average temperature of 60 or the same processor operating at an average of 50? This isn't rocket science son, heat degrades electronic components, it doesn't matter if you're not hitting its thermal limitations or even close to it. Every electronic component has a hypothetical countdown timer when being used, adding more heat whether minute or not accelerates this countdown to the point where it no longer functions.

Higher temp = shorter operational lifespan

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Lems literally begging people not to buy PS4s now.

Keep crying, lads.

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Sony trying to pull another fast one on its customers. But the mah gamers mantra!!!!

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@imt558 said:
@nyadc said:

It runs hotter, heat destroys electronic components.

LOL! WTF is this, dude. My AMD cards heated up to 220F ( 100C ) in laptop which is 2 years old. And guess what? Nothing wrong with that cuz components are builded to withstand that kind of heat. Btw. max temp. in OLD PS4 is around 130F which is 60C. And guess what : PS4 ( like Xbone also ) has heat sensor. PS4, if overheated more then they should, will shut down automatically to cool. Just read before you spew some shit :

http://vr-zone.com/articles/sony-engineer-unveils-functional-beauty-ps4s-cooling-system/69852.html

Do you have any official source for the massive meltdowns???

Not for a sustained time period. Just look at the 360, that got stupidly hot.

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#34  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@Shewgenja said:

Just curious, was there actually a real issue with the original PS4?

Wasn't there Wobble on the base if you place it a certain way and the rubber on the original analog sticks would get wrecked with frequent use?

both seemed rather minor to me, with the latter happening likely because people are actually playing on PS4's and ignoring Xbones, lel. Apparently it's been fixed in the revisions as well.

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@MonsieurX said:

Don't buy a PS4,yet.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Shewgenja said:

Just curious, was there actually a real issue with the original PS4?

and the rubber on the original analog sticks would get wrecked with frequent use?

happening likely because people are actually playing on PS4's and ignoring Xbones, lel. Apparently it's been fixed in the revisions as well.

Nah it was just shitty build quality as usual for Sony's controllers. I don't think it's been completely fixed but they improved the sticks somewhat.

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@Chozofication said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Shewgenja said:

Just curious, was there actually a real issue with the original PS4?

and the rubber on the original analog sticks would get wrecked with frequent use?

happening likely because people are actually playing on PS4's and ignoring Xbones, lel. Apparently it's been fixed in the revisions as well.

Nah it was just shitty build quality as usual for Sony's controllers. I don't think it's been completely fixed but they improved the sticks somewhat.

I think they toughened up the rubber now or something. That's what I heard anyway.

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@Shewgenja said:

Just curious, was there actually a real issue with the original PS4?

Yes the switch to mechanical buttons will end the disc eject issue that mine has. Will get the Battlefront console to replace mine in November. The fan is also not as loud.

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#39  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Chozofication said:
@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Shewgenja said:

Just curious, was there actually a real issue with the original PS4?

and the rubber on the original analog sticks would get wrecked with frequent use?

happening likely because people are actually playing on PS4's and ignoring Xbones, lel. Apparently it's been fixed in the revisions as well.

Nah it was just shitty build quality as usual for Sony's controllers. I don't think it's been completely fixed but they improved the sticks somewhat.

I think they toughened up the rubber now or something. That's what I heard anyway.

I haven't had any problems with my launch PS4 and so far, nothing to say other then the battery life on DS4 is short as ****.

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Just wanted to make sure this wasn't some kind of "Zephyr redesign will stop the problems" situation or anything.

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Makes sense after all SONY is currently leading this gen with the world's most powerful video game console, why change when people continue to see SONY's proven mantra of the by gamers for gamers matched with the Live, Learn and Love philosophy.

Better article would be, why would SONY change the best console of gen 8???

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#42  Edited By NyaDC
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@Heil68 said:

Makes sense after all SONY is currently leading this gen with the world's most powerful video game console, why change when people continue to see SONY's proven mantra of the by gamers for gamers matched with the Live, Learn and Love philosophy.

Better article would be, why would SONY change the best console of gen 8???

Are you really fanboying for an inferior version of the system hardware... Like really...

"Why would anyone ever make improvements to something, how stupid"

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:
@Chozofication said:

Nah it was just shitty build quality as usual for Sony's controllers. I don't think it's been completely fixed but they improved the sticks somewhat.

I think they toughened up the rubber now or something. That's what I heard anyway.

They did, but I still hear some people's sticks are peeling, though not nearly as much as they were at launch. I love the Ds4's ergnomics but I wish they'd make it more solid and double the battery life. Instead they sell an $18 controller for $60 :P

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#44  Edited By Heil68
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@nyadc said:
@Heil68 said:

Makes sense after all SONY is currently leading this gen with the world's most powerful video game console, why change when people continue to see SONY's proven mantra of the by gamers for gamers matched with the Live, Learn and Love philosophy.

Better article would be, why would SONY change the best console of gen 8???

Are you really fanboying for an inferior version of the system hardware... Like really...

"Why would anyone ever make improvements to something, how stupid"

Well PS4 is current gen 8 console leader after all. Just saying.

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#46  Edited By tormentos
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@nyadc said:

How is it a stupid headline? Your post is stupid, they're liquidating their existing and old CUH-1100 stock in the 1tb models to get rid of them.

Why would you knowingly buy something that's going to run hotter, create more noise and cost you more money in electricity when there is a more efficient model available?

Don't buy an xbox one.......

It runs hotter than the PS4 while having more than 100 games less and been weaker....Now that is a headline that some people could use..

A better question would be why would you knowingly buy a weaker console,for $100 more and that got hotter.

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Hey danny drama, I didn't say it was going to burn up so cool your jets, I said heat destroys electronic components. The more heat that is applied will result in inevitable and sooner hardware failure...

Your xbox one get hotter playing games than the PS4 i guess we know which will be destroyed first..lol

@clyde46 said:

Not for a sustained time period. Just look at the 360, that got stupidly hot.

lol 360.... the worse engineer console ever.

@nyadc said:

Are you really fanboying for an inferior version of the system hardware... Like really...

"Why would anyone ever make improvements to something, how stupid"

Isn't that what you do with the xbox one all the time B4X.?

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LOL that makes what I did all the more great.

I bought a PS4 with a 500gb hard drive from my friend for $200 and went to the store to buy a used PS4 with a 1tb hard drive. I then swapped the two hard drives and brought the PS4 back to gamestop. I got a refund on the claim that the last person swapped the 1tb with a 500gb before returning it.

Now I have a CUH-1200 model with a 1tb hardrive at the price of $200.

Seriously, **** Sony. It would be a great day for gaming if they would go under already.

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#48 -Horuu-
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@skelly34 said:

LOL that makes what I did all the more great.

I bought a PS4 with a 500gb hard drive from my friend for $200 and went to the store to buy a used PS4 with a 1tb hard drive. I then swapped the two hard drives and brought the PS4 back to gamestop. I got a refund on the claim that the last person swapped the 1tb with a 500gb before returning it.

Now I have a CUH-1200 model with a 1tb hardrive at the price of $200.

Seriously, **** Sony. It would be a great day for gaming if they would go under already.

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Ladies and gentlemen, lemmings are reaching peak desperation. How much more worse can they get? Tune in next time for another exciting episode of System Wars!

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#50 gago-gago
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Well that sucks. I mean, can the PS4 at least use external hard drives yet? Maybe I missed out on that news, but can it? I know the Xbox One can do it since I'm using a 5TB external hard drive already. I hate swapping out hard drives for consoles like the PS3 and PS4 since the old hard drive would just go to waste. I rather use external hard drives.