Do people believe Xbox 360 won the system war over PS3?

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#1 Homiegesus
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I rarely go into System Wars the same as I rarely watch Fox News but I was curious if people really believe that the 360 has won the System War this year around. I have had 4 PS3's and 5 Xbox 360's and 3 Wii's throughout the beginning of this console generation and if I had to look at the facts I don't see how its possible for the 360 to have the upper hand in the slightest. The 360's strong point is Xbox Live mostly based on the fact that its user friendly somewhat like a person who buys an iphone as opposed to a Windows Mobile or Droid. Aside from live it survives as a console based off of its Third Party Games. Any exclusives much like the original Xbox are either ported over to the PC (always a much better product) or released on the PC at the same time. I will list the Xbox exclusives and then list the PS3 exclusives which is by far the largest margin when depicting the better system.

Xbox 360 -

Halo 3, ODST, and Reach, Perfect Dark Zero, Gears of War, Gears of War 2 and 3, Ninety Nine Nights 1 and 2, Kameo, Lost Odyssey, Forza Motorsport 2 and 3, Fable 2 and 3, Dead or Alive 4, Alan Wake, Blue Dragon

PS3 - Uncharted 1, 2, and 3, MLB The Show 07-11, Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet 1 and 2, Killzone 2, and 3, Gran Turismo 5, Demon Souls, White Knight Chronicles, God of War 3, Heavy Rain

Twisted Metal, The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy XIII Versus are all scheduled to come out sometime this year while Xbox 360 doesn't have any announcements for big name exclusives.

What should be realized is I left out many PS3 exclusives that aren't big names but are popular such as the Disgaea series, the Yakuza series, and the Resistance series. But for the Xbox 360 I had to grasp for straws with the Ninety Nine Nights which were lets face it spin-offs of Dynasty Warriors. Also threw in Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey to up an credibility in the RPG field, which I felt was an honest attempt.

After putting these two systems together I can't help by realize the same thing that was realized last console war. The Xbox's exclusives are Halo and Fable, at least until the PC port is released, much like the 2 Halo's and Fable were with the previous console not to mention Chronicles of Riddick looking phenomenal on the PC.

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#2 coreybg
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If the system wars were all about exclusives, PC and Wii would've won and X360 and PS3 would still be fighting for 3rd place.

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#4 Lucianu
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System war?

PC won that by a mile, like always lmao. Wii is 2nd in terms of sales and exclusives.

PS3/360 i couldn't care less, they can fight for the 3rd place all they want.

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#5 Snugenz
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I rarely go into System Wars the same as I rarely watch Fox News but I was curious if people really believe that the 360 has won the System War this year around. I have had 4 PS3's and 5 Xbox 360's and 3 Wii's throughout the beginning of this console generation and if I had to look at the facts I don't see how its possible for the 360 to have the upper hand in the slightest. The 360's strong point is Xbox Live mostly based on the fact that its user friendly somewhat like a person who buys an iphone as opposed to a Windows Mobile or Droid. Aside from live it survives as a console based off of its Third Party Games. Any exclusives much like the original Xbox are either ported over to the PC (always a much better product) or released on the PC at the same time. I will list the Xbox exclusives and then list the PS3 exclusives which is by far the largest margin when depicting the better system.

Xbox 360 -

Halo 3, ODST, and Reach, Perfect Dark Zero, Gears of War, Gears of War 2 and 3, Ninety Nine Nights 1 and 2, Kameo, Lost Odyssey, Forza Motorsport 2 and 3, Fable 2 and 3, Dead or Alive 4, Alan Wake, Blue Dragon

PS3 - Uncharted 1, 2, and 3, MLB The Show 07-11, Metal Gear Solid 4, Little Big Planet 1 and 2, Killzone 2, and 3, Gran Turismo 5, Demon Souls, White Knight Chronicles, God of War 3, Heavy Rain

Twisted Metal, The Last Guardian, Final Fantasy XIII Versus are all scheduled to come out sometime this year while Xbox 360 doesn't have any announcements for big name exclusives.

What should be realized is I left out many PS3 exclusives that aren't big names but are popular such as the Disgaea series, the Yakuza series, and the Resistance series. But for the Xbox 360 I had to grasp for straws with the Ninety Nine Nights which were lets face it spin-offs of Dynasty Warriors. Also threw in Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey to up an credibility in the RPG field, which I felt was an honest attempt.

After putting these two systems together I can't help by realize the same thing that was realized last console war. The Xbox's exclusives are Halo and Fable, at least until the PC port is released, much like the 2 Halo's and Fable were with the previous console not to mention Chronicles of Riddick looking phenomenal on the PC.

Homiegesus

Since you're comparing the 360 and PS3 directly, can you play those 360/PC games on the PS3, no? ... hmm.

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#7 Vinegar_Strokes
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were only halfway through this gen. still a long way to go before a winner is decided. 360 is ahead atm though by a whisker

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#8 Lucianu
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First ask yourself this. What system would Jesus buy? A PS3 for sure. Jesus knows that only poor people buy the 360 and the Wii. They're probably on welfare and cheat on their taxes. Jesus hates those people, PS3 all the way.

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Jesus would buy the system that is infinitely superior in terms of content, and flexibility, meaning Godlike, which is the obvious PC.

God bless the mighty PC.

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#9 slipknot0129
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It isnt about exclusives or games,its about sales. Whole point of system wars is what console sales the most. So pc won 1st place. Wii second place and 360 third place and ps3 fourth place.

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#10 Lucianu
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were only halfway through this gen. still a long way to go before a winner is decided. 360 is ahead atm though by a whisker

Vinegar_Strokes

Halfway?

Were at the end of the console gen. by late 2012.

A console's lifespan before a new gen. comes out is 5-6 years. And that's at most. Ben so since the SNES/Genesis days. I see no reason for it to change now.

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#11 Vinegar_Strokes
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First ask yourself this. What system would Jesus buy? A PS3 for sure. Jesus knows that only poor people buy the 360 and the Wii. They're probably on welfare and cheat on their taxes. Jesus hates those people, PS3 all the way.

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jesus can't play any games. he lost that kind of dexterity after he had 2 massive nails driven through his palms.

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#12 HailedJohnDman
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i dont know if 360 won the system war but the ps3 sure as hell didnt

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#13 coreybg
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First ask yourself this. What system would Jesus buy? A PS3 for sure. Jesus knows that only poor people buy the 360 and the Wii. They're probably on welfare and cheat on their taxes. Jesus hates those people, PS3 all the way.

Tangmashi

No, that would be a PC. There's a reason PC gamers are the master race you know 8)

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#14 HailedJohnDman
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First ask yourself this. What system would Jesus buy? A PS3 for sure. Jesus knows that only poor people buy the 360 and the Wii. They're probably on welfare and cheat on their taxes. Jesus hates those people, PS3 all the way.

Tangmashi

ironic since jesus himself was poor and his disciples consisted of ex convicts, corrupt tax men, adulterers etc.

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lol @ people seriously debating this topic.
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1. Is it over? 2. lulz that you think the PS3 won.
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#18 TheEroica  Moderator
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were only halfway through this gen. still a long way to go before a winner is decided. 360 is ahead atm though by a whisker

Vinegar_Strokes
This is very true and all consoles have separated themselves in terms of what their draw is slightly, in answering the overconfidence of the tc however, i honestly cant believe that someone can look at all the status and market share sony has lost this generation and honestly believe that sony didnt already lose...
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#19 gc3n
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I don't own a PS3 but they have tons of great exclusives this year while the 360 has like one triple A title coming out?

and overall I think Ps3 wins since their exclusives are actually unique and awesome whilst the 360 just pumps out generic shooters

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#20 Smileyvirus
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In terms of sales maybe - I dunno. In terms of most generic fps's sold on one console - oh hell yeah. In terms of most disappointing rpg's sold on one console - oh yes. In terms of "they had a good idea on their console, lets copy it!" - yup. I've got a 360 but I doubt I'll go M$ again next gen. Kicking myself for not going Ninty this gen tbh.
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#21 onewiththegame
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Sales and amount of AAA, AA games should determine the "winner of the gen" imo

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#22 xsatyr86
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[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"]

were only halfway through this gen. still a long way to go before a winner is decided. 360 is ahead atm though by a whisker

Lucianu

Halfway?

Were at the end of the console gen. by late 2012.

A console's lifespan before a new gen. comes out is 5-6 years. And that's at most. Ben so since the SNES/Genesis days. I see no reason for it to change now.

If you are expecting a new playstation or xbox next year then you do not understand economics. Sony and MS are going to ride this gen out as long as they can.

Also to contribute to the thread, MS has already won the battle. I honestly don't think even the biggest lems expected for MS to hold on to its lead over ps3 this long. They also have the advantage where they will probably get another head start for next gen over sony as well.

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#24 rybe1025
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The winners so far are Sales-Wii Games-360
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#25 incuensuocha
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Isn't it a stretch to suggest PC won when discussing gaming platforms. How do we know how many of all the PCs sold were "gaming PCs"? You can't include an eMachine bought by an 85 year old woman to email her grandkids as a win for PCs in a gaming discussion. We also don't know when graphics cards are bought if they're being bought as upgrades or as part of a new build. When it comes to gaming focused devices, we only know that the Wii has the most confirmed sales.
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#26 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Sales and amount of AAA, AA games should determine the "winner of the gen" imo

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SW voted for anarchy.
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#27 Zaibach
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no one wins, thats the point of system wars

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#28 -Snooze-
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The 360 can't win anything. It has crap first party support, and a service that nickel and dimes you just to play the game you've already stumped up cash for.

The PS3 had a TERRIBLE start, let's not pretend here ... However it's done great over the last few years, whereas the Xbox has got worse and worse.

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#29 gc3n
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[QUOTE="gc3n"]

I don't own a PS3 but they have tons of great exclusives this year while the 360 has like one triple A title coming out?

and overall I think Ps3 wins since their exclusives are actually unique and awesome whilst the 360 just pumps out generic shooters

sts106mat

total tripe. "totally unique" sure LBP, but thats about it. "generic shooters" ? care to name some generic shooters that are only on 360?

Halo, Gow, Mass Effect 2, CoD 2.

Can you name the 360 lineup for 2011 I'd like to know

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#30 DireOwl
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360 VS PS3? The 360 wins because of sales and with it's Kinect now on board the gap will get larger.

WII VS 360 VS PS3? Wii won this gen with it's sales.

PS VS WII VS 360 VS PS3? PC is the clear winner in sales.

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#31 onewiththegame
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[QUOTE="onewiththegame"]

Sales and amount of AAA, AA games should determine the "winner of the gen" imo

blue_hazy_basic

SW voted for anarchy.

of course it did, so why ask the question if there is no answer

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#32 Lucianu
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Sony and MS are going to ride this gen out as long as they can.

xsatyr86

Are going to? They already did. It's 2011. The consoles are already 5 years old, the 360 is pushing 6 years.

I know they can still milk the **** out of them with the casual approach. But i doubt they'll survive by late 2012. That's always ben the death line, 5 - 6 years. I base my conclusion on the history of consoles.

And just because a new gen. starts, doesn't mean this current console gen. wont continue to sell. My conclusion is based on the PS2, PS3 was released in 2006, and the PS2 still got games released on it and sold very well to this day.

So yeah. Time will tell who is right.

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#33 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="gc3n"]

I don't own a PS3 but they have tons of great exclusives this year while the 360 has like one triple A title coming out?

and overall I think Ps3 wins since their exclusives are actually unique and awesome whilst the 360 just pumps out generic shooters

gc3n

total tripe. "totally unique" sure LBP, but thats about it. "generic shooters" ? care to name some generic shooters that are only on 360?

Halo, Gow, Mass Effect 2, CoD 2.

Can you name the 360 lineup for 2011 I'd like to know

Now explain how Halo is generic (if you even know what the word means) ?

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

total tripe. "totally unique" sure LBP, but thats about it. "generic shooters" ? care to name some generic shooters that are only on 360?

gc3n

Halo, Gow, Mass Effect 2, CoD 2.

Can you name the 360 lineup for 2011 I'd like to know

Mass Effect 2 and CoD 2 are not only on 360..

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#35 xsatyr86
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[QUOTE="xsatyr86"]

Sony and MS are going to ride this gen out as long as they can.

Lucianu

Are going to? They already did. It's 2011. The consoles are already 5 years old, the 360 is pushing 6 years.

I know they can still milk the **** out of them with the casual approach. But i doubt they'll survive by late 2012. That's always ben the death line, 5 - 6 years.

And just because a new gen. starts, doesn't mean this current console gen. wont continue to sell. My conclusion is based on the PS2, PS3 was released in 2006, and the PS2 still got games released on it and sold very well to this day.

So yeah. Time will tell who is right.

Time will show I am right. MS and Sony need to recover the money they lost over the years and making new hardware during a recession is not the route to take.

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#36 Lucianu
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Time will show I am right. MS and Sony need to recover the money they lost over the years and making new hardware during a recession is not the route to take.xsatyr86

MS & Sony are going to do what they want to do, we can't read their minds, nevermind the fact that both companies do not solely rely on games and consoles to make them money, unlike Nintendo.

So yeah, time will show who is right. Gonna be me anyway, quote me, late 2012.

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[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

[QUOTE="gc3n"]

I don't own a PS3 but they have tons of great exclusives this year while the 360 has like one triple A title coming out?

and overall I think Ps3 wins since their exclusives are actually unique and awesome whilst the 360 just pumps out generic shooters

gc3n

total tripe. "totally unique" sure LBP, but thats about it. "generic shooters" ? care to name some generic shooters that are only on 360?

Halo, Gow, Mass Effect 2, CoD 2.

Can you name the 360 lineup for 2011 I'd like to know

how about resitance, killzone and MAG? those aren't generic? last time i checked mass effect 2 and COD 2 are on multiple platformes...

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#39 Heil68
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No, not even close.
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#41 badtaker
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both have same no.of AAA ? then how is 360 winning
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#42 waltefmoney
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both have same no.of AAA ? then how is 360 winningbadtaker

They don't. They have the same number of AAAE.

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#43 gc3n
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[QUOTE="gc3n"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"]

total tripe. "totally unique" sure LBP, but thats about it. "generic shooters" ? care to name some generic shooters that are only on 360?

sts106mat

Halo, Gow, Mass Effect 2, CoD 2.

Can you name the 360 lineup for 2011 I'd like to know

even more total tripe from you wow this is a good discussion.

first your points :- Geow is not generic, other games have copied it, making them generic.

Mass Effect is not a generic shooter, its a shooter with a great story and RPG elements.

HALO is the best Console FPS series going.

COD2 - far from generic, was probably one of the best launch titles ever..

now, the only games i really care about this year are TESV, Batman, ME3, Skyrim, Gears 3, Ace combat Assault Horizon. the fact that i could play all bar one of those games on another system is irrelevant to me.

As for games that i MAY LOOK at getting that are "system exclusive" I'd probably look at XBLA exclusive Trenched, plus Steel Battalion, Project Draco and a few others.

the Lineup for PS3 has the same multiplats and games such as LBP2 and UC3 that i have no interest in. matter of fact the game "Dark souls" i think might look good too, i saw some screenshots and they looked good. i think its previous game was a PS3 exclusive called Demon Souls, funny that no-one seems to mention its now a multiplat!

i am still playing Halo Reach, months after release it still averages 100,000 players online in the evening, so that wont die off too quick. so can you explain to me why i should care that the 360 hasn't much to offer this year, besides gears, forza and all those amazing multiplats i mentioned?.



Well I was just pointing out how I feel about about the exclusives, that is the PS3 is actually putting out some games that aren't just shooters which is a breath of fresh air from the constant bombardment of shooters that the industry seems to pump put ever since online became more easily accessible on consoles.

and hey enjoy your games I'm not going to stop you, I wasn't contesting your ability to enjoy games on your platform of choice, I just want to know the upcoming titles for the 360 since I have a 360 collecting dust so it's worth looking at.

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Well I was just pointing out how I feel about about the exclusives, that is the PS3 is actually putting out some games that aren't just shooters

gc3n

And so is everyone else.

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#45 TheMoreYouOwn
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It's pretty obvious that ps3 won.
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#46 waltefmoney
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It's pretty obvious that ps3 won.TheMoreYouOwn

It's not, actually.

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[QUOTE="badtaker"]both have same no.of AAA ? then how is 360 winningwaltefmoney

They don't. They have the same number of AAAE.

and the 360 still slightly outdoes it with AAEs.

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#48 lazerface216
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It's pretty obvious that ps3 won.TheMoreYouOwn

lol sony definitely lost this gen and it's not even close. the only company to actually lose a ****load of marketshare this gen compared to last. never worry though, there's always next gen...

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#49 gc3n
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[QUOTE="gc3n"]

Well I was just pointing out how I feel about about the exclusives, that is the PS3 is actually putting out some games that aren't just shooters

waltefmoney

And so is everyone else.



Are you responding to the first part of that sentence or the second?

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#50 HailCaesarHail
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ps3 is without a doubt the best system of the 2. 360 is good just not as good.