Do Sales Really Matter To Us Gamers?

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#1 ps3wizard45
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I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

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#2 AzatiS
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I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

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We s aid it here , for years... We dont play sales... We play games!! So imho , i dont give a s..t if a game sales 1 copy or 10 million copies if i like it. Ill buy it and play it whatever the sales :) Thats a healthy gamer will do anyways :)
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#3 Raining__Blood
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It's funny the tables have turned,last gen ps2 supporters(including myself) were all about sales,now sales don't matter anymore,of course sales matter, more sales = more support.
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#4 PAL360
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Im sure third party love to develop to systems that sell. So, it means more games for sure

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#5 JangoWuzHere
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Nope.

I find it funny when gamers start all this bs about sales. Honestly let the devs and publishers worry about sales.

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#6 mexicangordo
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Sales didn't matter the instant the Wii sold so well :roll:

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#7 Shad0ki11
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As a gamer, sales don't matter to me. Not one bit.

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#8 mirgamer
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I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

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You can choose to ignore them but the sad truth is, yes they do matter to gamers. Obviously, not in the terms of your enjoyment of a game, sales should never dictate that but if you wish to see that title to have continuation or sequels, they absolutely matter. I've seen too many of my favorite series or titles getting canceled or its sequels terminated coz of poor sales.
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#9 Floppy_Jim
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To some extent, sure. You don't want a console you own to be the next Dreamcast. But for sales to be brought into literally every single System Wars thread, it's annoying.
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#10 killerfist
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Sales do matter. Crap sales can make a console dissapear (look at the xbox and Dreamcast). Crap sales for (good)games can lower the chance of getting a sequel.
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#11 jarvis008
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I think the Wii shows that sales figures are not always an indication of a quality game, so how well a game has sold does not in anyway affect my opinion of it. I do however want games that I do like to sell well in order to reward the developer and increase the chances of follow ups.

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#12 Mckenna1845
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Sales do matter. Crap sales can make a console dissapear (look at the xbox and Dreamcast). Crap sales for (good)games can lower the chance of getting a sequel. killerfist

this, although a game like killzone 2 selling over a million and people saying lulz, that doesn't matter as it will no doubt get a sequel/threequal/trilogy whatever you want to call it, and is likely considered a success by the devs. it's more games like okami that sold poorly and is unlikely to get a sequel.

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#13 Hexagon_777
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This again? Sales mean continued support for your console. This means that your console will get more games from more developers and this in return increases the chances of your console receiving great games. Furthermore, the console manufacturer will continue to keep the console alive and will make sure that it has a long life span.

These certainly sound like points a gamer should be interested in. Gamers want games after all. Gamers also want their console to have a long life span i.e. one that is not equivalent to that of the Xbox. Sales matter.

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#14 delta3074
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This again? Sales mean continued support for your console. This means that your console will get more games from more developers and this in return increases the chances of your console receiving great games. Furthermore, the console manufacturer will continue to keep the console alive and will make sure that it has a long life span.

These certainly sound like points a gamer should be interested in. Gamers want games after all. Gamers also want their console to have a long life span i.e. one that is not equivalent to that of the Xbox. Sales matter.

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this, in a nutshell
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#15 dakan45
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I just want to get games i like i dont care what is the opinon of the gamers or the scores or how many billion sequels they release, almost identical to the first game just because the first one sold, eg mass effect 2, gears of war 2, bioshock 2, l4d2...annoying isnt it?
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#16 kingdre
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I know they don't matter to me.

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#17 MizFitAwesome
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1st indication your platform is faltering: start threads about why sales don't matter. In the meantime are you PS3 owners getting ready for Heavenly Sword 2 and Valkroe Chronicles 2? ....Oh wait, sales don't matter....

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#18 The__Havoc
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Nope.

I find it funny when gamers start all this bs about sales. Honestly let the devs and publishers worry about sales.

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The only thing bs about sales is that because of them no Valkyria Chronicles 2 on PS3 because of sales.

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#19 striking_
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As far aas I know sales have always been one way to determine a console's success around here. They really should'nt however sales do mean more games for a system,hence why you get system wars megatons like ffXIII to 360.

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#20 BeyondPain
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Sales do help but they dont mean as much as system wars makes them out to mean. This is after all........system wars :P
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#21 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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To gamers? not so much... To fanboys? It means the world to them

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#22 Hexagon_777
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To gamers? not so much... To fanboys? It means the world to them

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You sure?

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#23 ManicAce
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Yes they do somewhat. A succesful game is more likely to get a sequel, it's not always that straight-forward, but still most of the time it's positive. Great sales might also attract other companies to that system.

But I'd like to also point out that "success" is measured in profit not so much in unit sales. Development and marketing costs can range from 1 to 100 million dollars. In massively simplified terms; a game that cost 50m to make might have to sell 2m to break even, but for a game that cost 10 million as little as 400k might be enough.

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#24 haziqonfire
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Many people say 'sales don't matter' - the reality is, they do matter a lot. Sales can determine many things - whether or not you get a sequel of a game for example.
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I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

ps3wizard45

There are 50 million nintendo wiis throughout the world. Third party publishers who are looking for increase profits would publish more games on the wii.

Playstation 3 has superior hardware for people who want better quality graphics, but if publishers are putting games and they arent able to make money, they be more likely to stop selling games on the platform.

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#26 jeffmonster
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Yes, sales matter to me. I just bought the 2nd Killzone map pack and there was no available bodycount matches with those maps. I was kinda bummed out. If Killzone 2 sold a million more copies, more people would have those maps leading to a more enjoyable gaming experience for me. I didn't have this problem with COD.

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#27 Riverwolf007
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I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

ps3wizard45

because sales determine 3rd party support and product lifespan

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#28 cainetao11
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It's funny the tables have turned,last gen ps2 supporters(including myself) were all about sales,now sales don't matter anymore,of course sales matter, more sales = more support.Raining__Blood
LOL, was thinking that myself. Human ego will rationalize anything in order to keep it's attachment. Like loving Sony so much, that what was ammo for last gen, doesn't mean anything this gen.
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#29 badtaker
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I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

ps3wizard45

Sales does not matter, Ok then PS2 is super Flop.

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#30 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="ps3wizard45"]

I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

No, but they do count heavily in System Wars supremacy.
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#31 SoNin360
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It's better for a console/game to sell more obviously, but we shouldn't worry about it as much...
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#32 njean777
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i can see why sales can matter but i do not give a crap about them anybody trying to claim ownage off of sales is just a sad person imo.

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#33 TBoogy
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They matter to me because I have a Sony grudge (well, more like a "cow" grudge) that kicked off on 9-9-99.

Revenge has been sweet, but it's getting stale. Maybe I will let it go on 9-9-09.

It's been fun watching some cows go mad, though.

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#34 bronxxbombers
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I donbt care about sales, i own no stocks in the companies.
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#35 Shafftehr
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Of course. Sales directly the result in continuations of franchises. When I find a game I like, I want it to sell well, so I'll see more like it. One of my favorite games of last gen, Deathrow, died a death of low sales, never to have the sequel it needed to work out its league options. Black Isle, one of the best RPG makers ever, was completely wiped out by relatively lackluster sales. There are a lot of examples of situations where sales directly affect us gamers, and gamers who claim that sales don't matter are outright ignorant.
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#36 xxyetixx
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Kinda if you wanna keep playing your favorite consoles, or newer versions of consoles from said co. Just ask Atari Jaguar, 3DO, Dreamcast, fanboys.

Also the same goes for game developers if you like there games and want them to continue making great games the sales matter.

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#37 SpruceCaboose
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Sales matter a whole lot. Ask Sega fans.
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#38 Solid_Max13
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I've never cared about sales, most fanboys play that card to boost the ego of there system.
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#39 OniStrat
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It's simple.

More sales = more games

If a system sells well, it's only natural that developers wants to make games for that system. If a system however doesn't sell well, developers won't be making many games for that system.

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#40 True_Gamer_
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3rd party publishers stopped loving sales....WHY? Where are the high tech next gen multiplats? Fight night? NBA2k9? RE5? AC2? Bioshock2? Crysis 2? If sales mattered so much I can bet my left arm that Crytek would have made a Crysis 2 running on cry engine 1 for the Wii....But they dont. So sales matter when you have the hardware to back them up.

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#41 NYrockinlegend
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Well, more sales=more support. It's also important to have a good amount of people on your console. However, even the PS3 has a respectably large population, so I shouldn't be complaining, and despite poor sales, Sony's still securing exclusive titles for PS3. And still many sequels coming out from the new original IPs. RFOM sold like crap at launch, but it had very strong legs and sold more in the long run than most other PS3 titles, even more than that of certain X360 games(yes, games do sell poorly, regardless of what system they're on- even Wii has its poor selling games). Sales are good to keep in mind, but I wouldn't revolve all my decisions around them.
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Sales has always been a debating point of hypocrisy. It's always great to talk about when your party has it, but quickly becomes irrelevant when they don't. I mean how much did cows just love to beat sales over the heads of the sheep and lemming in the PS2 generation? How often was the 120 million banner waved back then? And how much do sales discussions turn up in the PS3 generation?

But then again, they do still expect their victory defined by sales, by how they hold to the "destiny" of PS3's inevitable overtaking of 360 and Wii in market position.

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#43 foxhound_fox
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No. The only people that sales matter to are shareholders and company members.

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#44 majadamus
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Sales do matter. If there is a game you really like and it doesn't sell then chances are there won't be a sequel to it.
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#45 TheGreatOutdoor
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Nope.

I find it funny when gamers start all this bs about sales. Honestly let the devs and publishers worry about sales.

JangoWuzHere

Sorry, but sells do matter to us gamers. Do you think the dev will make a sequel to that awesome game you like if it sells like crap and they lose money from it? Yea that's right, no they will not. So sells do matter to use gamers. I find it funny when gamers can't see the bigger picture and see just how much sells do effect us gamers. Not hardware sells don't effect us really, but software sells sure do.

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#46 LookAnDrolL
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Negative.
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#47 AvIdGaMeR444
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I allways see people on hear debating sales... but does that make a game console better? For instance the Wii is winning in sales, but that doesn't make the best console, in fact is proably one of the worse due to it's lack of games... the ps3 is in dead last but has some of the best exclusives to date....sales don't change this....

so why are we arguing about sales, If were gonna argue, argue about the systems and games themselves!

ps3wizard45

If you care about seeing a sequel to a game you like, then sales matter.

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#48 foxhound_fox
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Sales do matter. If there is a game you really like and it doesn't sell then chances are there won't be a sequel to it. majadamus

What does getting a sequel have to do with the overall quality of a game? Not every game ever made needs a sequel, nor does getting a sequel always end up being a good thing. Okami didn't sell well and didn't get a sequel... but was still a fantastic game. How does it not getting a sequel effect Okami's quality?

I don't get this argument. Sales don't, in any way, effect the overall quality of a game, nor does getting a sequel cause the previous iteration to be any better. So why even bring it up?

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#49 gamenerd15
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Sales don't matter in terms of the game itself, but they do matter in terms of sequels and what types of games are made. Look at Mario Party 8 and Zack and Wiki. Which game is more likely to be seen again and which genre is more likely to have more games in it? Obviously Mario Party wins.

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#50 Hexagon_777
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No. The only people that sales matter to are shareholders and company members.

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You're not being serious, right?