Do the cows really think that FF and MGS is not comming to 360? Just plz

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#1 meankilleR
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Why would konami not want to make money?  Why would Square like to make money?  Sony lost SO MANY EXCLUSIVES or MULTI PLAT that are multi plat now or exclusive....  For example DMC4 the cows said it will never come to 360.  Guess what its on 360.   Cows said UT would never come to 360 cuz Gears of Wars was for 360... Guess what its on 360.

 

I will save this thread and everyone on this board can quote me that both MGS and FF XIII will be on XBOX 360.

 

 Oh what up with the scaling problem with the PS3 still has not been fixed?  WTF thought it was a software problem?  Guess not, I bet Sony didn't even put a scaler in...  

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#2 greenleaf2000
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This is sad............those games will never be on any console except for the ps3........
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lol :lol:... You have no idea what you're talking about.
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fanboy at its best
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???? Just like DMC4 ehh? Just like UT2K7?? EHHH Bio shock 360 exclusive allan wake 360 exclusive mass effect 360 exclusive assigns creed suppose to be ps3 exclusive. Listen man Microsoft has money they are possibly the most successful company of all time other then oil/electric companies, wile sony is in debt and have been losing money for years. Not to mention the PS3 flopped in sales harder then my pancake yesterday.
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#6 Downplays
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This coming from a Level 25. Sad.
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#7 X360PS3AMD05
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I agree, but i think MGS will come over and not FF.
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#8 meankilleR
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lol :lol:... You have no idea what you're talking about. WickeeKing
Dont know what im talking about? How bout the days that GTA would never appear on xbox platform? Microsoft can buy out Konami if they wanted to then what? Microsoft gets exclusive because of their cash and guess what they havent been slowing down they have been getting games left right and center, why not just seal the PS3 coffin with the last nail by getting MGS and FF?
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This coming from a Level 25. Sad.Downplays
It is called LOGIC.
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#10 Downplays
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???? Just like DMC4 ehh? Just like UT2K7?? EHHH Bio shock 360 exclusive allan wake 360 exclusive mass effect 360 exclusive assigns creed suppose to be ps3 exclusive. Listen man Microsoft has money they are possibly the most successful company of all time other then oil/electric companies, wile sony is in debt and have been losing money for years. Not to mention the PS3 flopped in sales harder then my pancake yesterday.meankilleR

Woah woah woah there Captain Obvious. DMC4 was almost a given concidering Capcom is in bed with MS due to Lost Planet and Dead Rising. Dur. DMC4 is not a shocker to see go multiplat. As far as the rest of the games you mentioned, what does that have to do with the PS3? And the reason why your pancakes flopped is because you added too much water to the mux. Learn how to cook noob.

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This coming from a Level 25. Sad.Downplays
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If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true!    PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong.  I am 100 % right and it will happen soon.  Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives.   You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives.   If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360. 

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If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true!    PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong.  I am 100 % right and it will happen soon.  Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives.   You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives.   If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360. 

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Eh, you better keep your word! This thread despereately screams out to be bookmarked.
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1. Sony have a HUGE shares in SE so FF will never come to 360

 

2. Kojima has already stated that alot of the effects in MGS4 ( snakes camo come to mind ) can only 

be done on PS3 because of Cell, He's also asked Sony for a 50G/B Blu-Ray disk because he said that 25GB is'nt enough for MGS4, whats he gonna do with 360's piss poor 

7GB? 7GB is barely enough to store the polygon data that creates snakes snake

( Youll get it later ;) )  

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[QUOTE="meankilleR"]???? Just like DMC4 ehh? Just like UT2K7?? EHHH Bio shock 360 exclusive allan wake 360 exclusive mass effect 360 exclusive assigns creed suppose to be ps3 exclusive. Listen man Microsoft has money they are possibly the most successful company of all time other then oil/electric companies, wile sony is in debt and have been losing money for years. Not to mention the PS3 flopped in sales harder then my pancake yesterday.Downplays

Woah woah woah there Captain Obvious. DMC4 was almost a given concidering Capcom is in bed with MS due to Lost Planet and Dead Rising. Dur. DMC4 is not a shocker to see go multiplat. As far as the rest of the games you mentioned, what does that have to do with the PS3? And the reason why your pancakes flopped is because you added too much water to the mux. Learn how to cook noob.

Uhhhh sorry but you cows said IT WILL NEVER COME TO THE 360. I dont care because DEVIL MAY FLOP sucks ballz and wish that trash would stay on the PS3, but why is Capcom and all these other companies ditching ps3 exclusives and making them multiplat or 360 exclusive? The user base and the lack of user base on the PS3. For example Resistance fall of man sold worse then blinx on xbox 1 and cost the company millions and wont make their money back due to the horrible sales of the PS3...... Sorry but your logic is so flawed its boggles my mind.
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If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true!    PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong.  I am 100 % right and it will happen soon.  Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives.   You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives.   If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360. 

meankilleR

Maybe if you used your logic, MGS4 and FF13 are more than likely games that wiill release in 2008. MSG4 is possible but that's up to Kojima. So by 2008, more consoles will be sold, and the install base of the PS3 will be much larger. All Sony needs to do is sweeten the deal. And last time I check, Konami and SE have good relations with Sony. As Phil Harrison puts out on DMC4, he's not surprized to see DMC4 go multiplat because of the small amount of systems that are currently out. Again, you're not using your gaming logic. Just your fanboy logic. If you can't get your head back into the game, then go to gamefaqs and spout your trolling self.

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1. Sony have a HUGE shares in SE so FF will never come to 360

2. Kojima has already stated that alot of the effects in MGS4 ( snakes camo come to mind ) can only

be done on PS3 because of Cell, He's also asked Sony for a 50G/B Blu-Ray disk because he said that 25GB is'nt enough for MGS4, whats he gonna do with 360's piss poor

7GB? 7GB is barely enough to store the polygon data that creates snakes snake

( Youll get it later ;) )

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Dont know wtf you are saying because KOJIMA said himself that the 360 can run MGS. Where you get this bs?? SPONG? Oh and if kojima would start using in game engine for cut scenes instead of cg videos or pre recorded cut scenes they would not need blu ray....
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If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

Downplays

Maybe if you used your logic, MGS4 and FF13 are more than likely games that wiill release in 2008. MSG4 is possible but that's up to Kojima. So by 2008, more consoles will be sold, and the install base of the PS3 will be much larger. All Sony needs to do is sweeten the deal. And last time I check, Konami and SE have good relations with Sony. As Phil Harrison puts out on DMC4, he's not surprized to see DMC4 go multiplat because of the small amount of systems that are currently out. Again, you're not using your gaming logic. Just your fanboy logic. If you can't get your head back into the game, then go to gamefaqs and spout your trolling self.

It is not up to KOJIMA, he has no say whatsoever if it goes multi plat or not. Its just to Konami and from what I know Kojima isn't a ceo at Konami.
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This is sad............those games will never be on any console except for the ps3........greenleaf2000
Yeah even yesterday in a speech by Kojima he made fun of the 360, why can't people just accept the Ps3 has some exclusives.
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If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

meankilleR

By your logic then doesn't that mean every game that isn't made by Microsoft is coming to the PS3, seriously man give it a rest you have no idea what your talking about and have a nieve perspective on this industry.

Also what are you on man. 'Kojima isn't a CEO at Konami' that doesn't mean anything. Its the fact that he is the head of his own production company ' Kojima Productions' the company that is making MGS so i'd say he's got the most say out of anyone in the world.

CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH KOJIMA LIKES THE 360

taken from the article above in Kojimas own words. 'Shows a screen of the systems Metal Gear has appeared on (or at least developed primarily for). Sorry kids, no 360 there.'

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[QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"]

If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

meankilleR

Maybe if you used your logic, MGS4 and FF13 are more than likely games that wiill release in 2008. MSG4 is possible but that's up to Kojima. So by 2008, more consoles will be sold, and the install base of the PS3 will be much larger. All Sony needs to do is sweeten the deal. And last time I check, Konami and SE have good relations with Sony. As Phil Harrison puts out on DMC4, he's not surprized to see DMC4 go multiplat because of the small amount of systems that are currently out. Again, you're not using your gaming logic. Just your fanboy logic. If you can't get your head back into the game, then go to gamefaqs and spout your trolling self.

It is not up to KOJIMA, he has no say whatsoever if it goes multi plat or not. Its just to Konami and from what I know Kojima isn't a ceo at Konami.

This just prove you don't know anything about gaming. Let me give you a small history lesson. Kojima was VP of Konami, who retired in the year 2005 to create his own developement team called Kojima productions. Kojima has gone on record saying that MGS4 coule be done on the 360 but to what extend? He never said any up's or down's about. Only he knows. Kojima has also gone on record stating that he is very intereted in developing for the Wii. As well as the 360 and PC. No MGS. Original IP's. Lemmings should happy to know that. That Kojima wants to bring new IP's to other concoles. Not ports. Sorry son. Kojima has a bigger say in his series that Konami. In the end, it really comes down to what Kojima wants. Not Konami.

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[QUOTE="greenleaf2000"]This is sad............those games will never be on any console except for the ps3........meischris39
Yeah even yesterday in a speech by Kojima he made fun of the 360, why can't people just accept the Ps3 has some exclusives.

It has a few but I dont see MGS or even FF staying exclusive. YALL say sony onlys part of Square, I know that. If sony had any say if the games are going multi plat why would sony let square have any relations with Microsoft? Games already announced for the 360 by square. Sony really doesn't have any real power unless they own 51 % of the company, they have their opinion and it has to be heard on the board but thats about it.
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i really believe kojima is the one in charge of where his game goes, as he has always done, i dont see konami forcing him...but who knows...time will tell all people...chill out...they're video games...for fun and entertainment...not to be fought over
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[QUOTE="mrboo15"]

1. Sony have a HUGE shares in SE so FF will never come to 360

 

2. Kojima has already stated that alot of the effects in MGS4 ( snakes camo come to mind ) can only

be done on PS3 because of Cell, He's also asked Sony for a 50G/B Blu-Ray disk because he said that 25GB is'nt enough for MGS4, whats he gonna do with 360's piss poor

7GB? 7GB is barely enough to store the polygon data that creates snakes snake

( Youll get it later ;) )

meankilleR

Dont know wtf you are saying because KOJIMA said himself that the 360 can run MGS. Where you get this bs?? SPONG? Oh and if kojima would start using in game engine for cut scenes instead of cg videos or pre recorded cut scenes they would not need blu ray....

 MGS4 needs Blu Ray for the massive files etc, DVD9 is not enough, Kojima said, he said 360 can run the game itself but not when you put it on Blu Ray cause 360 doesnt have Blu Ray in it, get it?

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[QUOTE="meankilleR"][QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"]

If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

Downplays

Maybe if you used your logic, MGS4 and FF13 are more than likely games that wiill release in 2008. MSG4 is possible but that's up to Kojima. So by 2008, more consoles will be sold, and the install base of the PS3 will be much larger. All Sony needs to do is sweeten the deal. And last time I check, Konami and SE have good relations with Sony. As Phil Harrison puts out on DMC4, he's not surprized to see DMC4 go multiplat because of the small amount of systems that are currently out. Again, you're not using your gaming logic. Just your fanboy logic. If you can't get your head back into the game, then go to gamefaqs and spout your trolling self.

It is not up to KOJIMA, he has no say whatsoever if it goes multi plat or not. Its just to Konami and from what I know Kojima isn't a ceo at Konami.

This just prove you don't know anything about gaming. Let me give you a small history lesson. Kojima was VP of Konami, who retired in the year 2005 to create his own developement team called Kojima productions. Kojima has gone on record saying that MGS4 coule be done on the 360 but to what extend? He never said any up's or down's about. Only he knows. Kojima has also gone on record stating that he is very intereted in developing for the Wii. As well as the 360 and PC. No MGS. Original IP's. Lemmings should happy to know that. That Kojima wants to bring new IP's to other concoles. Not ports. Sorry son. Kojima has a bigger say in his series that Konami. In the end, it really comes down to what Kojima wants. Not Konami.

He now has no say in Konami, now that konami is publishing the game they have all rights to where it goes and they get to choose if its multi plat or not. If they got sony to publish it that would be another story but then they would lose all the recourses of Konami and be stuck with whats left of 989 sports. :|
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Hideo Kojima has stated that MGS4 will be on a 50gig Blu Ray disc and if necessary could spill over onto 2, you do realise that, you are trying to port a 100gig game theoretically onto a 9 gig disc. It is frankly impossible that MGS4 would go to XBOX, as it would be over 10 disks and considering 4 disks isn't even cost effecient Konami would have to sell the game for like $200
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Hideo Kojima has stated that MGS4 will be on a 50gig Blu Ray disc and if necessary could spill over onto 2, you do realise that, you are trying to port a 100gig game theoretically onto a 9 gig disc. It is frankly impossible that MGS4 would go to XBOX, as it would be over 10 disks and considering 4 disks isn't even cost effecient Konami would have to sell the game for like $200meischris39
You are delusional if you believe that :lol: If needed i'm sure it can be compressed to fit on 1 or 2 DVDs.
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[QUOTE="meankilleR"]

If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

meischris39

By your logic then doesn't that mean every game that isn't made by Microsoft is coming to the PS3, seriously man give it a rest you have no idea what your talking about and have a nieve perspective on this industry.

Also what are you on man. 'Kojima isn't a CEO at Konami' that doesn't mean anything. Its the fact that he is the head of his own production company ' Kojima Productions' the company that is making MGS so i'd say he's got the most say out of anyone in the world.

CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH KOJIMA LIKES THE 360

taken from the article above in Kojimas own words. 'Shows a screen of the systems Metal Gear has appeared on (or at least developed primarily for). Sorry kids, no 360 there.'

 Hey topic creator, read my post and try and understand that on MGS anyway you are completely wrong.
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[QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"][QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"]

If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

meankilleR

Maybe if you used your logic, MGS4 and FF13 are more than likely games that wiill release in 2008. MSG4 is possible but that's up to Kojima. So by 2008, more consoles will be sold, and the install base of the PS3 will be much larger. All Sony needs to do is sweeten the deal. And last time I check, Konami and SE have good relations with Sony. As Phil Harrison puts out on DMC4, he's not surprized to see DMC4 go multiplat because of the small amount of systems that are currently out. Again, you're not using your gaming logic. Just your fanboy logic. If you can't get your head back into the game, then go to gamefaqs and spout your trolling self.

It is not up to KOJIMA, he has no say whatsoever if it goes multi plat or not. Its just to Konami and from what I know Kojima isn't a ceo at Konami.

This just prove you don't know anything about gaming. Let me give you a small history lesson. Kojima was VP of Konami, who retired in the year 2005 to create his own developement team called Kojima productions. Kojima has gone on record saying that MGS4 coule be done on the 360 but to what extend? He never said any up's or down's about. Only he knows. Kojima has also gone on record stating that he is very intereted in developing for the Wii. As well as the 360 and PC. No MGS. Original IP's. Lemmings should happy to know that. That Kojima wants to bring new IP's to other concoles. Not ports. Sorry son. Kojima has a bigger say in his series that Konami. In the end, it really comes down to what Kojima wants. Not Konami.

He now has no say in Konami, now that konami is publishing the game they have all rights to where it goes and they get to choose if its multi plat or not. If they got sony to publish it that would be another story but then they would lose all the recourses of Konami and be stuck with whats left of 989 sports. :|

ROFL. Kojima is the creator of the game thus it has his copyright/trademark, if Konami does it, Kojima can easily sue Konami.

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[QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"][QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"]

If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

 

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

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Maybe if you used your logic, MGS4 and FF13 are more than likely games that wiill release in 2008. MSG4 is possible but that's up to Kojima. So by 2008, more consoles will be sold, and the install base of the PS3 will be much larger. All Sony needs to do is sweeten the deal. And last time I check, Konami and SE have good relations with Sony. As Phil Harrison puts out on DMC4, he's not surprized to see DMC4 go multiplat because of the small amount of systems that are currently out. Again, you're not using your gaming logic. Just your fanboy logic. If you can't get your head back into the game, then go to gamefaqs and spout your trolling self.

It is not up to KOJIMA, he has no say whatsoever if it goes multi plat or not. Its just to Konami and from what I know Kojima isn't a ceo at Konami.

This just prove you don't know anything about gaming. Let me give you a small history lesson. Kojima was VP of Konami, who retired in the year 2005 to create his own developement team called Kojima productions. Kojima has gone on record saying that MGS4 coule be done on the 360 but to what extend? He never said any up's or down's about. Only he knows. Kojima has also gone on record stating that he is very intereted in developing for the Wii. As well as the 360 and PC. No MGS. Original IP's. Lemmings should happy to know that. That Kojima wants to bring new IP's to other concoles. Not ports. Sorry son. Kojima has a bigger say in his series that Konami. In the end, it really comes down to what Kojima wants. Not Konami.

He now has no say in Konami, now that konami is publishing the game they have all rights to where it goes and they get to choose if its multi plat or not. If they got sony to publish it that would be another story but then they would lose all the recourses of Konami and be stuck with whats left of 989 sports. :|

Sorry man. You can spin this any way you like or deny it. Just accept the truth about MGS4 and how it will stay to the PS3. MGS4 is -the- system seller. Same with FF13. Sony knows this and I'm pretty sure they've already worked out deals with the companies. Just let it go man. Let it go. Let's spin this my way though. Since MS is being a punk with Epic on their DLC, don't you think that would warrent a possibility of Gears of War 3 to go to the PS3 is MS keeps up their way of distributing DLC? It's not a good way to keep your biggest guns happy with your console. Quit being so narrow minded about it.

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Only reason it would be 50 gigs is because of bad compression and cgi cut scenes in hd which is stupid when u can do all that with the in game engine.... This is why MGS would be fit the blu ray disc. Sorry but ut2k7/gears of war/mass effect/bio shock/allan wake/ look leaps and bounds better then the gray scale MGS game, thus sony gets them to do stupid stuff to justify the blu ray player in the PS3.
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[QUOTE="meischris39"]Hideo Kojima has stated that MGS4 will be on a 50gig Blu Ray disc and if necessary could spill over onto 2, you do realise that, you are trying to port a 100gig game theoretically onto a 9 gig disc. It is frankly impossible that MGS4 would go to XBOX, as it would be over 10 disks and considering 4 disks isn't even cost effecient Konami would have to sell the game for like $200X360PS3AMD05
You are delusional if you believe that :lol: If needed i'm sure it can be compressed to fit on 1 or 2 DVDs.

LISTEN If you listen to that Kojima says everything i mentioned he even says at one point 'Blu Ray to small for MGS4'
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3:49pm - Shows a screen of the systems Metal Gear has appeared on (or at least developed primarily for). Sorry kids, no 360 there.
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Only reason it would be 50 gigs is because of bad compression and cgi cut scenes in hd which is stupid when u can do all that with the in game engine.... This is why MGS would be fit the blu ray disc. Sorry but ut2k7/gears of war/mass effect/bio shock/allan wake/ look leaps and bounds better then the gray scale MGS game, thus sony gets them to do stupid stuff to justify the blu ray player in the PS3. meankilleR

So then if you don't care about MGS, they why are you crying about it being on the 360? You sounded pretty desperate before about it going to the 360, and now you mock it? :lol: Ladies and Gentalment. Introducing Two Face.

PS- Kojima doesn't used CGI. ;) Again. Common knowledge you don't even know about.

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[QUOTE="meankilleR"][QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"][QUOTE="Downplays"][QUOTE="meankilleR"]

If the game isnt PUBLISHED BY SONY it is not SAFE sorry but it's true! PLEASE quote me with this thread I will delete my account and lose my 10 000 posts if im wrong. I am 100 % right and it will happen soon. Rumors about both games have been going around for ages and guess what most of the rumors came true regarding XBOX 360 stealing PS3 exclusives. You Cows want to justify the 599 $ purchase when it will have no exclusives. If anything both games will be time exclusives but Konami and square isnt going to sink millions into a game and make it exclusive to a userbase of 3 million when they can go to XBOX 360 and port it for close to nothing with Microsofts help and have a 10 million user base.....

Sorry but you are all idiots if you think both aren't commin to 360.

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Maybe if you used your logic, MGS4 and FF13 are more than likely games that wiill release in 2008. MSG4 is possible but that's up to Kojima. So by 2008, more consoles will be sold, and the install base of the PS3 will be much larger. All Sony needs to do is sweeten the deal. And last time I check, Konami and SE have good relations with Sony. As Phil Harrison puts out on DMC4, he's not surprized to see DMC4 go multiplat because of the small amount of systems that are currently out. Again, you're not using your gaming logic. Just your fanboy logic. If you can't get your head back into the game, then go to gamefaqs and spout your trolling self.

It is not up to KOJIMA, he has no say whatsoever if it goes multi plat or not. Its just to Konami and from what I know Kojima isn't a ceo at Konami.

This just prove you don't know anything about gaming. Let me give you a small history lesson. Kojima was VP of Konami, who retired in the year 2005 to create his own developement team called Kojima productions. Kojima has gone on record saying that MGS4 coule be done on the 360 but to what extend? He never said any up's or down's about. Only he knows. Kojima has also gone on record stating that he is very intereted in developing for the Wii. As well as the 360 and PC. No MGS. Original IP's. Lemmings should happy to know that. That Kojima wants to bring new IP's to other concoles. Not ports. Sorry son. Kojima has a bigger say in his series that Konami. In the end, it really comes down to what Kojima wants. Not Konami.

He now has no say in Konami, now that konami is publishing the game they have all rights to where it goes and they get to choose if its multi plat or not. If they got sony to publish it that would be another story but then they would lose all the recourses of Konami and be stuck with whats left of 989 sports. :|

Sorry man. You can spin this any way you like or deny it. Just accept the truth about MGS4 and how it will stay to the PS3. MGS4 is -the- system seller. Same with FF13. Sony knows this and I'm pretty sure they've already worked out deals with the companies. Just let it go man. Let it go. Let's spin this my way though. Since MS is being a punk with Epic on their DLC, don't you think that would warrent a possibility of Gears of War 3 to go to the PS3 is MS keeps up their way of distributing DLC? It's not a good way to keep your biggest guns happy with your console. Quit being so narrow minded about it.

Do you understand sony has no money to toss around? If this went to a bidding war like most of the games already that were suppose to be for ps3 Microsoft will win. Please just quote me with this thread, because MGS is not a system seller as you make it out to be and the PS3 fan base is horrible and sales have frozen up. I see hundreds of PS3's in the stores around Toronto.
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I agree, but i think MGS will come over and not FF.X360PS3AMD05

 I think the opposite. It has already been stated that FF is not yet an official PS3 exclusive (The artcle is somewhere on this site). Final Fantasy has already been seen on the 360 (FFXI).

Though im expecting both to join the 360 sometime in the future.

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Only reason it would be 50 gigs is because of bad compression and cgi cut scenes in hd which is stupid when u can do all that with the in game engine.... This is why MGS would be fit the blu ray disc. Sorry but ut2k7/gears of war/mass effect/bio shock/allan wake/ look leaps and bounds better then the gray scale MGS game, thus sony gets them to do stupid stuff to justify the blu ray player in the PS3. meankilleR
MGS4 has never used any form of CGI at all and never will. And as far as your compression point goes, MGS2 +3 were compressed to hell and i don't see whty MGS4 would differ.
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"][QUOTE="meischris39"]Hideo Kojima has stated that MGS4 will be on a 50gig Blu Ray disc and if necessary could spill over onto 2, you do realise that, you are trying to port a 100gig game theoretically onto a 9 gig disc. It is frankly impossible that MGS4 would go to XBOX, as it would be over 10 disks and considering 4 disks isn't even cost effecient Konami would have to sell the game for like $200meischris39
You are delusional if you believe that :lol: If needed i'm sure it can be compressed to fit on 1 or 2 DVDs.

LISTEN If you listen to that Kojima says everything i mentioned he even says at one point 'Blu Ray to small for MGS4'

Exactly, uncompressed. There is no reason for such a game to take up 100GB, how big was Oblivion again?? You're telling me that MGS4 will be as big as the entire earth and run at 1080P and last 200 hours just to try and take up 100GB :lol:

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I agree, but i think MGS will come over and not FF.Twin-Blade

I think the opposite. It has already been stated that FF is not yet an official PS3 exclusive (The artcle is somewhere on this site). Final Fantasy has already been seen on the 360 (FFXI).

Though im expecting both to join the 360 sometime in the future.

Actually yah i think you're onto something.
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im not playin any games right now... no consoles, and all my computer games ive been banned for hacking lol XD beer, my anti-gaming
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#40 meankilleR
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"][QUOTE="meischris39"]Hideo Kojima has stated that MGS4 will be on a 50gig Blu Ray disc and if necessary could spill over onto 2, you do realise that, you are trying to port a 100gig game theoretically onto a 9 gig disc. It is frankly impossible that MGS4 would go to XBOX, as it would be over 10 disks and considering 4 disks isn't even cost effecient Konami would have to sell the game for like $200meischris39
You are delusional if you believe that :lol: If needed i'm sure it can be compressed to fit on 1 or 2 DVDs.

LISTEN If you listen to that Kojima says everything i mentioned he even says at one point 'Blu Ray to small for MGS4'

Man its small because he is sticking like 100 hours of hd footage... MGS is a fken movie no game play it has always been like this, the game itself if the cut scenes would be done in game not pre recorded it would fit on a dvd disc no problem. Sorry but its true, oh lets not mention the fact the XBOX 360 has an edge on its hardware thus the reason most multi platform games look better on 360 and the xbox 360 currently holds the best looking game of all time.
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Only reason it would be 50 gigs is because of bad compression and cgi cut scenes in hd which is stupid when u can do all that with the in game engine.... This is why MGS would be fit the blu ray disc. Sorry but ut2k7/gears of war/mass effect/bio shock/allan wake/ look leaps and bounds better then the gray scale MGS game, thus sony gets them to do stupid stuff to justify the blu ray player in the PS3. meankilleR

rofl! Kojima never used CGI, now when u said that this proves that u dont know anything about it. go play MGS first then go back here.

Then if you think Mass effect, allan awake is better than MGS then whats the point of this thread?

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I agree, but i think MGS will come over and not FF.X360PS3AMD05

I think the opposite. It has already been stated that FF is not yet an official PS3 exclusive (The artcle is somewhere on this site). Final Fantasy has already been seen on the 360 (FFXI).

Though im expecting both to join the 360 sometime in the future.

Actually yah i think you're onto something.

 

Thank you. All blu ray does is let the devs become lazy and not provide any compression.. MGS would fit on a dvd if they didnt cut corners and do stupid stuff like 1080p cgi cutscenes...

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[QUOTE="meankilleR"]Only reason it would be 50 gigs is because of bad compression and cgi cut scenes in hd which is stupid when u can do all that with the in game engine.... This is why MGS would be fit the blu ray disc. Sorry but ut2k7/gears of war/mass effect/bio shock/allan wake/ look leaps and bounds better then the gray scale MGS game, thus sony gets them to do stupid stuff to justify the blu ray player in the PS3. def_mode

rofl! Kojima never used CGI, now when u said that this proves that u dont know anything about it. go play MGS first then go back here.

Then if you think Mass effect, allan awake is better than MGS then whats the point of this thread?

cut scenes in mgs3 were pre recorded trailers.. might as well be cgi because takes up the same ammount of space. In game cut scenes are like halo2 where the stupid texture pop up bug is still in the cut scenes..
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[QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="meankilleR"]Only reason it would be 50 gigs is because of bad compression and cgi cut scenes in hd which is stupid when u can do all that with the in game engine.... This is why MGS would be fit the blu ray disc. Sorry but ut2k7/gears of war/mass effect/bio shock/allan wake/ look leaps and bounds better then the gray scale MGS game, thus sony gets them to do stupid stuff to justify the blu ray player in the PS3. meankilleR

rofl! Kojima never used CGI, now when u said that this proves that u dont know anything about it. go play MGS first then go back here.

Then if you think Mass effect, allan awake is better than MGS then whats the point of this thread?

cut scenes in mgs3 were pre recorded trailers.. might as well be cgi because takes up the same ammount of space. In game cut scenes are like halo2 where the stupid texture pop up bug is still in the cut scenes..

then if Kojima wants CGI cutscnes then have it, he has lots of space anyway.

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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I agree, but i think MGS will come over and not FF.Twin-Blade

I think the opposite. It has already been stated that FF is not yet an official PS3 exclusive (The artcle is somewhere on this site). Final Fantasy has already been seen on the 360 (FFXI).

Though im expecting both to join the 360 sometime in the future.

Hmmm interesting if we could get a link we could end this horrible debate where im right.
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[QUOTE="meankilleR"][QUOTE="def_mode"]

[QUOTE="meankilleR"]Only reason it would be 50 gigs is because of bad compression and cgi cut scenes in hd which is stupid when u can do all that with the in game engine.... This is why MGS would be fit the blu ray disc. Sorry but ut2k7/gears of war/mass effect/bio shock/allan wake/ look leaps and bounds better then the gray scale MGS game, thus sony gets them to do stupid stuff to justify the blu ray player in the PS3. def_mode

rofl! Kojima never used CGI, now when u said that this proves that u dont know anything about it. go play MGS first then go back here.

Then if you think Mass effect, allan awake is better than MGS then whats the point of this thread?

cut scenes in mgs3 were pre recorded trailers.. might as well be cgi because takes up the same ammount of space. In game cut scenes are like halo2 where the stupid texture pop up bug is still in the cut scenes..

then if Kojima wants CGI cutscnes then have it, he has lots of space anyway.

:lol; Can you image? How many dvd9's that would take if MGS4 used CGI cut scenes? 15 disc set. Let's not forget FF13. That's like a 25 disc set right there.

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Ok lets just say both MGS and FF are on XBOX 360 what does the PS3 HAVE? I say it is the biggest failure since Indream or the gizmondo, possibly the ngadge. Don't think anything could flop as hard as the psp and UMD have tho.
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[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I agree, but i think MGS will come over and not FF.meankilleR

I think the opposite. It has already been stated that FF is not yet an official PS3 exclusive (The artcle is somewhere on this site). Final Fantasy has already been seen on the 360 (FFXI).

Though im expecting both to join the 360 sometime in the future.

Actually yah i think you're onto something.

 

Thank you. All blu ray does is let the devs become lazy and not provide any compression.. MGS would fit on a dvd if they didnt cut corners and do stupid stuff like 1080p cgi cutscenes...

WHAT? Devs are lazy because they dont want to compress their games? compression means you sacrifice quality of the video and audio for the price of smaller file. If they have the freakin space why would they compress it? Why sacrifice video and audio quality when there is so much space.

GTA:SA graphics can be better, it could have better graphics but it was compressed.

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[QUOTE="Twin-Blade"]

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I agree, but i think MGS will come over and not FF.meankilleR

I think the opposite. It has already been stated that FF is not yet an official PS3 exclusive (The artcle is somewhere on this site). Final Fantasy has already been seen on the 360 (FFXI).

Though im expecting both to join the 360 sometime in the future.

Hmmm interesting if we could get a link we could end this horrible debate where im right.

 

Found it

http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/finalfantasy13/news.html?sid=6167864&om_act=convert&om_clk=gsupdates&tag=updates;title;1 

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Ok lets just say both MGS and FF are on XBOX 360 what does the PS3 HAVE? I say it is the biggest failure since Indream or the gizmondo, possibly the ngadge. Don't think anything could flop as hard as the psp and UMD have tho. meankilleR

if Halo3 went to PS3, 360 is pretty much nothing too