Do you believe NPD numbers?

I dont know but to me they seem like they could be easily rigged. Anyone can 'PAY' to have the best numbers if they want to show thier console in the best light if ya catch my drift.

I don't think they are "rigged" but they also are exactly correct. I'm pretty sure they don't get the numbers of a few retailers including Wal-Mart which is pretty huge in the retail world.

So the numbers aren't 100% correct or maybe even 90% but its the best thing we got next to VGchartz which loses 500,000,000,000,000 points of cred by having a freaking Z in place of an S.

NPD seems to be the most credible source.

While i think they are not perfectly correct, I do believe they are a very good (close) indication of actual figures and its the only means of having an idea how systems sold..

There not. You're sore cuz the PS3 got outsold.bronxxbombers

Ah god, I saw a thread just like this a few days ago.. Are you the same OP?

yeah but NPD numbers is US figures only right?

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]

There not. You're sore cuz the PS3 got outsold.rotaredom

A name does not guarantee success. I love my PS3, but it doesn't have to be number one to fit my needs.

(sigh) Always have to have a couple conspiracy theories for some to come to grips why their console of choice is in last place.

yeah but NPD numbers is US figures only right?

___gamemaster__

I dont know but to me they seem like they could be easily rigged. Anyone can 'PAY' to have the best numbers if they want to show thier console in the best light if ya catch my drift.

rotaredom

yeah but NPD numbers is US figures only right?

___gamemaster__

I dont know but to me they seem like they could be easily rigged. Anyone can 'PAY' to have the best numbers if they want to show thier console in the best light if ya catch my drift.

rotaredom

The NPD group is among the top ranked market research companies. Just google it or bing it you'll see.

Is this about your bet with Arcticedge?

You have to admit its a little weird that PS3 keeps getting outsold. It's the Playstation namebrand afterall. Something doesnt sit right with me here.

rotaredom

The Playstation brand is kicking Microsoft's ass worldwide. Only lemmings can't acknowledge it because it hurts their feelings. :lol:

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

You have to admit its a little weird that PS3 keeps getting outsold. It's the Playstation namebrand afterall. Something doesnt sit right with me here.

The Playstation brand is kicking Microsoft's ass worldwide. Only lemmings can't acknowledge it because it hurts their feelings. :lol:

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

You have to admit its a little weird that PS3 keeps getting outsold. It's the Playstation namebrand afterall. Something doesnt sit right with me here.

The Playstation brand is kicking Microsoft's ass worldwide. Only lemmings can't acknowledge it because it hurts their feelings. :lol:

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

I dont know but to me they seem like they could be easily rigged. Anyone can 'PAY' to have the best numbers if they want to show thier console in the best light if ya catch my drift.

Chutebox

this thread title was so Fail, but i was curious to what the TC was gonna say, and unfortunately it was more fail. NPD does not rig numbers, and is not paid off by Sony/MS/Nintendo. Please remember that we are in System Wars, and the nutjobs who say that x pays x off to review or lie about x system is not how the real world works. The numbers have never been in dispute up until today with your post. Yes we all know you have a fanatical obsession with the PS3, and would sacrafice your 1st son for it to sell more, but facts are facts.

npd are only a portion of actual numbers, lets not forget that theres other places in the world that play video games other than north america.

You have to admit its a little weird that PS3 keeps getting outsold. It's the Playstation namebrand afterall. Something doesnt sit right with me here.

rotaredom

People do not seem to realize the PS3 is at $400 (at least in SW anyway)

The NPD seems to be the most credible source

People do not seem to realize the PS3 is at $400 (at least in SW anyway)

The NPD seems to be the most credible source

thelastguy

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

People do not seem to realize the PS3 is at $400 (at least in SW anyway)

The NPD seems to be the most credible source

rotaredom

Pulled this off of NPD website.

The NPD Group, founded in 1967, is the leading global provider of consumer and retail market research information for a wide range of industries. We provide critical consumer behavior and point-of-sale (POS) information and industry expertise across more industries than any other market research company.

Through our consumer panel, retail sales tracking services, special reports, and custom research, we help our clients understand and profit from consumer and retail trends. Our data tells them who is buying, what, where, and why at the international, national, and store levels.

NPD market research products and services are available for the following industry sectors: Automotive, Beauty, Commercial Technology, Consumer Technology, Entertainment, Fashion, Food & Beverage, Foodservice, Home, Office Supplies, Software, Sports, Toys, and Wireless.

Our market research information helps companies make fact-based decisions in order to:

• Identify new business opportunities
• Guide new product development
• Develop marketing strategies
• Enhance sales force performance
• Strengthen category management
• Optimize promotion/advertising mix
• Understand consumer behavior and customer satisfaction
• Increase market share

Our clients include manufacturers, retailers, and service companies in all of the industries we serve. We also provide market research information to foodservice operators, technology distributors, and financial services providers that track the industry sectors we monitor. NPD has over 1700 clients, ranging from Fortune 100 leaders to smaller businesses.

Yes its safe to say NPD is a reliable, and credible source.

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

People do not seem to realize the PS3 is at $400 (at least in SW anyway)

The NPD seems to be the most credible source

rotaredom

They track more than just video game numbers. A lot more credibe than a site like "Vg Chartz"

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="rotaredom"]

I dont know but to me they seem like they could be easily rigged. Anyone can 'PAY' to have the best numbers if they want to show thier console in the best light if ya catch my drift.

rotaredom

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

[QUOTE="thelastguy"]

People do not seem to realize the PS3 is at $400 (at least in SW anyway)

The NPD seems to be the most credible source

Fizzman

Pulled this off of NPD website.

The NPD Group, founded in 1967, is the leading global provider of consumer and retail market research information for a wide range of industries. We provide critical consumer behavior and point-of-sale (POS) information and industry expertise across more industries than any other market research company.

Through our consumer panel, retail sales tracking services, special reports, and custom research, we help our clients understand and profit from consumer and retail trends. Our data tells them who is buying, what, where, and why at the international, national, and store levels.

NPD market research products and services are available for the following industry sectors: Automotive, Beauty, Commercial Technology, Consumer Technology, Entertainment, Fashion, Food & Beverage, Foodservice, Home, Office Supplies, Software, Sports, Toys, and Wireless.

Our market research information helps companies make fact-based decisions in order to:

• Identify new business opportunities
• Guide new product development
• Develop marketing strategies
• Enhance sales force performance
• Strengthen category management
• Optimize promotion/advertising mix
• Understand consumer behavior and customer satisfaction
• Increase market share

Our clients include manufacturers, retailers, and service companies in all of the industries we serve. We also provide market research information to foodservice operators, technology distributors, and financial services providers that track the industry sectors we monitor. NPD has over 1700 clients, ranging from Fortune 100 leaders to smaller businesses.

Yes its safe to say NPD is a reliable, and credible source.

ps3 got out sold not because of games no more but because of these remaining factors

500 is the asking price ,of a 3 yr old console,

250 should be a nice point by now, as bluray players them self run at 199 at walmart,

wii should be 149,99 ,

but in the end its still the cheapest thing-xbox arcade does not count as it does not have a hard drive, and most 360 users by now need one ,

i do believe the numbers, they are missing a few sales for all 3 but they still got them pretty much intact

also software will always not all be recognized theres to many , egcondoit , or kz2 , why these aint on lists by now, ugh beats me , like i said they miss a few but , ,

ya

whos a shamed to own a ps3 honestly, i own all ,7 supported forms of hardware excluding pc ,

and they all have their pros and cons,

its about pricing ,to most especally in a recession , , its bad enough bills pile up , for most,

and then sony goes and charges an arm and a leg for a 360 like console with a blu rAY DRIVE

seriously, thhats just sonys fault not ours just like its microsofts fault for the unreliable ness of the 360 , ,

and i cant say wii did anything wrong it was more like the third party being lazy at the begining , slowly got better though , i still think cap com is not in their right mind ,

we all know re5 can be done on wii , they just to lazy to do it just like all the other devs making turok etc not on wii ,

just give us different games in the franchise then , ,

for example nfs nitro , thats a good start ,

had they had 2 seperate teams or one team do 1 version at a time ,all 3 consoles wouldnt have this excuse -not worth so and so ,

even ps3 needs its own library because it seams as though 1 it uses bluray and with these 6 gb 360 ports , they arent getting the benefits from them

each console as i said before has thier drawback , ,

and you cant blame well us for not wanting to support an expensive product , ,

that has nil when it comes to exclusives - besides those of sonys, they should have like i said 1 game from the series of games on each console ,not porting back and forth,

yes some big budget games but not all these turok prey etc like games, we know these didnt tkae the effort ,

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]but are they "really" credible? That's what we have to examine. I'm not convinced.

surrealnumber5

Pulled this off of NPD website.

The NPD Group, founded in 1967, is the leading global provider of consumer and retail market research information for a wide range of industries. We provide critical consumer behavior and point-of-sale (POS) information and industry expertise across more industries than any other market research company.

Through our consumer panel, retail sales tracking services, special reports, and custom research, we help our clients understand and profit from consumer and retail trends. Our data tells them who is buying, what, where, and why at the international, national, and store levels.

NPD market research products and services are available for the following industry sectors: Automotive, Beauty, Commercial Technology, Consumer Technology, Entertainment, Fashion, Food & Beverage, Foodservice, Home, Office Supplies, Software, Sports, Toys, and Wireless.

Our market research information helps companies make fact-based decisions in order to:

• Identify new business opportunities
• Guide new product development
• Develop marketing strategies
• Enhance sales force performance
• Strengthen category management
• Optimize promotion/advertising mix
• Understand consumer behavior and customer satisfaction
• Increase market share

Our clients include manufacturers, retailers, and service companies in all of the industries we serve. We also provide market research information to foodservice operators, technology distributors, and financial services providers that track the industry sectors we monitor. NPD has over 1700 clients, ranging from Fortune 100 leaders to smaller businesses.

Yes its safe to say NPD is a reliable, and credible source.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Pulled this off of NPD website.

The NPD Group, founded in 1967, is the leading global provider of consumer and retail market research information for a wide range of industries. We provide critical consumer behavior and point-of-sale (POS) information and industry expertise across more industries than any other market research company.

Through our consumer panel, retail sales tracking services, special reports, and custom research, we help our clients understand and profit from consumer and retail trends. Our data tells them who is buying, what, where, and why at the international, national, and store levels.

NPD market research products and services are available for the following industry sectors: Automotive, Beauty, Commercial Technology, Consumer Technology, Entertainment, Fashion, Food & Beverage, Foodservice, Home, Office Supplies, Software, Sports, Toys, and Wireless.

Our market research information helps companies make fact-based decisions in order to:

• Identify new business opportunities
• Guide new product development
• Develop marketing strategies
• Enhance sales force performance
• Strengthen category management
• Optimize promotion/advertising mix
• Understand consumer behavior and customer satisfaction
• Increase market share

Our clients include manufacturers, retailers, and service companies in all of the industries we serve. We also provide market research information to foodservice operators, technology distributors, and financial services providers that track the industry sectors we monitor. NPD has over 1700 clients, ranging from Fortune 100 leaders to smaller businesses.

Yes its safe to say NPD is a reliable, and credible source.

rotaredom

care to offer any proof?

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] NO! they hate sony and are payed dozens of dollars to pad MS and nintendos numbersFizzman

care to offer any proof?

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]Certianly wouldnt be the first time.

rotaredom

care to offer any proof?

i see, so i take that as a no then right?

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

care to offer any proof?

Fizzman

i see, so i take that as a no then right?

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]Proof is in the putting. People get paid off all the time. Thats what makes the world go round.

rotaredom

i see, so i take that as a no then right?

you clearly have this knowledge otherwise you wouldnt have stated that Sony had been falsely criticized due to third parties paying people off to make innacurate remarks. So please give me this proof which you stated you have.

Let me guess, MS has been paying NPD to show these numbers.

Right, TC?

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

yeah but NPD numbers is US figures only right?

bronxxbombers

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

i see, so i take that as a no then right?

Fizzman

I really have a hard time believing that the Wii is winning in sales. Something is off here.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]It's a yes. Just one where you have to seek the knowledge you desire.

rotaredom

I really have a hard time believing that the Wii is winning in sales. Something is off here.

Your exact words

Certianly wouldnt be the first time.

So if its certainly not the 1st time you clearly have knowledge of this occuring before.Now you are saying its possible, but i have no proof.

[QUOTE="rotaredom"]

You have to admit its a little weird that PS3 keeps getting outsold. It's the Playstation namebrand afterall. Something doesnt sit right with me here.

Odrec

The Playstation brand is kicking Microsoft's ass worldwide. Only lemmings can't acknowledge it because it hurts their feelings. :lol:

Well....one of the reasons PS3 is one of the biggest disapointments ever, is because there are still ppl who believe its the best just because their systems have "playstation" on them!!!

Actually Playstation brand is not kicking anybody´s ***. In fact, their systems are being outsold by both Wii and 360 everywhere except japan, the smallest market...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Pulled this off of NPD website.

The NPD Group, founded in 1967, is the leading global provider of consumer and retail market research information for a wide range of industries. We provide critical consumer behavior and point-of-sale (POS) information and industry expertise across more industries than any other market research company.

Through our consumer panel, retail sales tracking services, special reports, and custom research, we help our clients understand and profit from consumer and retail trends. Our data tells them who is buying, what, where, and why at the international, national, and store levels.

NPD market research products and services are available for the following industry sectors: Automotive, Beauty, Commercial Technology, Consumer Technology, Entertainment, Fashion, Food & Beverage, Foodservice, Home, Office Supplies, Software, Sports, Toys, and Wireless.

Our market research information helps companies make fact-based decisions in order to:

• Identify new business opportunities
• Guide new product development
• Develop marketing strategies
• Enhance sales force performance
• Strengthen category management
• Optimize promotion/advertising mix
• Understand consumer behavior and customer satisfaction
• Increase market share

Our clients include manufacturers, retailers, and service companies in all of the industries we serve. We also provide market research information to foodservice operators, technology distributors, and financial services providers that track the industry sectors we monitor. NPD has over 1700 clients, ranging from Fortune 100 leaders to smaller businesses.

Yes its safe to say NPD is a reliable, and credible source.

rotaredom

I ask the tough questions that need answers.

rotaredom

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="Odrec"]

The Playstation brand is kicking Microsoft's ass worldwide. Only lemmings can't acknowledge it because it hurts their feelings. :lol:

Odrec

So now the Sony sheeple resort to making this gen about 1 next gen console, the XBox360, and against 1 next gen console, a handheld device, AND a last gen console. Gets better and better!:lol:

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][There not. You're sore cuz the PS3 got outsold.rotaredom

[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

yeah but NPD numbers is US figures only right?

bronxxbombers

So not true.

NO! they hate sony and are payed dozens of dollars to pad MS and nintendos numberssurrealnumber5