Do you consider MGS a "Playstation" franchise?

I had this conversation today with a bud where, even though I could get Metal Gear Solid 5 on PC, I would still rather play it on PS4. My bud was like "why?" And I was like, because MGS is a Playstation franchise. I've always played MGS games on Sony machines. I also think PS4's controller is superior for this kind of game. What do you think, SW? Which platform will you get it for?

that is plain dumb, you play it where it plays best, on pc, you can use any controller included the ps4 one.

You'd rather play it on ps4 because favoritism.

The game series has been spread across multiple systems for a long time. If you're a true fan then you've played this series on more than just Playstation.

And if you're a true fan I don't get why you'd forgo getting an incredibly superior version outside of some sort of fanboyism, or at least favoritism of a platform. That's just stupid.

No but I'm used to playing it on Playstation

Just because you'd rather play it on playstation doesn't make it a PlayStation franchise. Also you can use a controller on the PC version

No, I have no preference toward playing MGS on PS consoles because of its tradition.

I would, however, consider it for trophy support, since it's the only achievement system that somehow has a snag in me. But sacrifice 1440p and 60fps for that? We'll see how the port turns out.

By that logic, Tomb Raider is a "PlayStation" franchise... oh wait, except, I play two of those games of that on GameCube and Wii, while I play Metal Gear on XBOX 360.

No, it's never been exclusive to PlayStation.

Nope. And I've grown tired of listing out every platform that this franchise has been on, but it's a lot of them.

If I'm really hyped for a game, I'll make sure to play it on the best platform for the job. Initially, that was the PS4 for MGSV. Now it's the PC and that's where I'll be playing it.

How can a franchise whose games were released on most gaming systems be called a "PlayStation franchise"?

Yes, I do.

Same thing with Persona, Tales of... and Final Fantasy. This holds true for the majority of the gaming community.

Edit: Looks like the posters above me dont know about brand association. Another example would be Call of Duty for xbox consoles.

If your gaming days started with the PS1 and ended with the PS2, sure.

Aside from MGS4, you can play every game in the franchise without a Sony console.

Yes, I do get brand association and yes, Playstation + MGS does have history. Still wouldn't call it a Playstation franchise by any stretch of the imagination.

sources please?

Someone would have to be rather short-sighted and quite ignorant to think it was ever a "PlayStation franchise"

Multiplat:

• Metal Gear - MSX2, Famicom, NES, Mobile, NGC (JPN), PS2
• Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake - MSX2, Mobile, PS2
• Metal Gear Solid - PS, PC, GBC
• Metal Gear Solid 2 - PS2, PS3, Xbox, Xbox 360, PC, PSV
• Metal Gear Solid 3 - PS2, PS3, Xbox 360, 3DS, PSV
• Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeroes - Xbox 360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4, PC
• Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker - PSP, PS3, Xbox 360
• Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance - PS3, Xbox 360, PC
• Metal Gear Ac!d - PSP
• Metal Gear Ac!d 2 - PSP

Exclusive:

• Metal Gear Solid 4 - PS3
• Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes - NGC
• Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops - PSP

Also, another point against your fanboyism: the PS4 controller is supported on PC.

Really stupid logic. The best version will be PC regardless of nostalgia. And yeah, you can use any controller you want including the ds4. Thats why I bought one in the first place.

Sales numbers. You can look them up if you are so interested.

I dont see your argument? Those franchises all have a big history with the PS brand and have to some extent exclusive entries with the most fans being on PS systems. Even the corporations know that. I dont see anything controversial in my statement.

So you can't provide any sources to prove that the majority of the gaming community agrees with what you said?

Im not going trought all of them but...

Metal Gear Solid - PS: September 3, 1998

PC: late 2000

The same holds true to other entries.

Doesn't matter. The TC is claiming that MG is a "PlayStation franchise".

It started on the MSX2/NES and is currently on 5 different platforms. It was never a PlayStation franchise.

I dont need to. Use your brain and stop asking everyone to prove you statistics for common knowledge.

So that's still a no then. I mean if the "majority" agrees, it should be relatively easy to prove

Yeah... if you take brand loyalty way too far, which is the only reason anybody would say Metal Gear/FF/Tales/Persona as a "PlayStation" franchise. I should be considering James Bond games a "Nintendo franchise" because of Goldeneye, by that logic, nevermind playing the third person action games (Everything or Nothing and From Russia With Love) on PlayStation consoles, while I play the FPS games on Nintendo systems (Goldeneye 64/Wii, The World is Not Enough, Nightfire*)

*- I also played this on PC before I picked up the GC version

And I agree with OP.

To me and millions of people this holds true. If halo suddenly goes multiplat, people would still view it as a xbox franchise or mario for nintendo consoles, for an extreme example.

It takes years to change that perception. Tomb Raider for example had the status of a PS franchise for years even if every game was on another system.

Ok. I don't see your argument.

Final Fantasy 1, 2 and 3. = NES

Final Fantasy 4, 5 and 6 = SNES

Final Fantasy 7, 8 and 9 = Playstation

Final Fantasy 10 and 12 = PS2

Final Fantasy 11 = multiplat

Final Fantasy 13 and its subtitles = multiplat

Final Fantasy 14 = multiplat

Then you have dozens of spin offs and re-releases that are all over the place platform-wise.

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I mean, what would you say about FF? Is it a NintenSony franchise that occasionally graces PC and Xbox?

One good look at Foxhounds above post brings us to a similar conclusion.

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For a time, these franchises had strong ties with Sony... as with other platform holders at other times. If you want to argue temporary brand association then be my guest. Calling these straight up Sony franchises? Nope.

Sorry, do you have an access to some survey of millions of people and their views on certain franchises?

Argumentum ad populum.

Nah, nothing to do with loyalty. And how can you even disagree with persona? Persona 2, for answers, 3, and 4 are exclusive to a PS system while persona 1 was one for a long time

Or do you think Persona Q suddenly lets the persona fanbase run off to nintendo consoles?

You are like a broken recorder, always the same shit. Do you save those replies?

I will not spoonfeed you, so **** off.

it's not my fault you can't back up your statements. No need to get upset

No... The vast majority of the series can be played elsewhere.

Its about perception and ties. You said it yourself those franchises have a long history with PS and they still do.

Thats my whole point. I see them as PS franchises while others dont but the majority is on my side. Nothing controversial.

I disagree with the assertions about either Tales of, or Metal Gear, or Final Fantasy- those are all ridiculous- but Persona is certainly a 'PlayStation' franchise. Only three games in its entire history have ever been on a non PlayStation platform, and of those, not a single one was mainline.

That said, Tales had heavy association with Nintendo (thanks to Symphonia) and Xbox (thanks to Vesperia), Final Fantasy was never associated with PlayStation unless you were born in the late 1990s, and Metal Gear Solid has never been a PlayStation exclusive- it has brand associations with PlayStation, yes, I will easily agree to that, but to call it a PlayStation franchise is dumb in the highest degree.

Bullshit. Nobody seriously links Final fantasy with Nintendo anymore. Anymore is the key word.

The biggest reason for that is the explosion of popularity with FF7 and the sequels of the franchise on PS systems. The history that MS misses. On the other hand we have FFXV for example which skips the WiiU while we dont have a announcement for PC.

Look, Muster Hunter is currently tighly knoted with nintendo consoles which in return changed the percetion of the franchise. Nobody would call them a Sony franchise anymore even when it started on PS2 and PSP. Nobody expects a new entrie on a PS system right now.

Another example. Dragon Quest is more of a nintendo franchise because the last few entries were on nintendo consoles but now we have Dragon Quest Heroes on PS3 and PS4 with the possibility of DQ11 on PS4 which in return can change the perception of the franchise again.

I am understanding your reasoning here. You're talking mostly about associations of brands more than anything else, in which case, yes, I think I will agree with you (although I will still contest your argument for Tales, and say that Final Fantasy's PlayStation association is slowly diluting), and yes, in that case, the average person, when they think Metal Gear Solid, they think PlayStation.

I get it. I get what you are saying, and I agree with you, what you are saying is actually very sensible after all.

I think my issue (and I think the issue most other people are having in this thread, although I obviously cannot speak for them) is that association does not make it a PlayStation franchise. Monster Hunter is not a Nintendo franchise. Dragon Quest is not a Nintendo franchise. Call of Duty is not an Xbox franchise. Destiny is not a PlayStation franchise. No matter how powerful associations may be, these are all third party owned and controlled franchises, available across multiple platforms.

The issue is not that MGS has a PlayStation association- it does, and you will not find me contesting that (I didn't do it in my previous post either)- the issue is with the TC saying that it is a PlayStation franchise. It isn't. Maybe it was bad wording on his part, or maybe he actually views it as a PlayStation franchise, I don't know, but the fact of the matter is, even though its PlayStation association is very powerful, it is not a PlayStation franchise.

You guys make a me laugh. Metal Gear is not Metal Gear Solid. This franchise started and was associated with Playstation for a long time.

MGS 1 first came out on Playstation

MGS 2/3 first came out on Playstation 2

MGS 4 is still a Playstation exclusive

MGS Portable first portable MGS, only on PSP

Peace Walker first on PSP

You know how many people bought all those systems? That's a lot of MGS players. I don't believe MGS has sold more on any system other than Playstation

the series/franchise is Metal Gear

of course none of this answers the actual question that his friend asked: "even though I could get Metal Gear Solid 5 on PC, I would still rather play it on PS4. My bud was like "why?"

I use a ps3 controller for playing console ports on PC (like MGS5).

all I noticed is that most games that were popular on a ps console has gone downhill after they went to xbox brand, like tekken, devil may cry, resident evil, soul calibur, final fantasy etc.. hopefully mgs stays a good quality game

@thegreatgeneral: No one is calling MGS a 'PC franchise' though- they're just contesting the claim of it being a PlayStation franchise, that's all.

Anyway, no point in arguing any more. I see what you are trying to say, at any rate, and what you have to say is something I can more or less agree with.

It's true that "Solid" sub series was first debuted on Playstation but true MGS fan always tries to get the best version possible, no matter the platform.

Long answer, no. Short answer, no.

Uh, Soul Calibur I (Dreamcast) and Soul Calibur II (GC/PS2/XBOX) disagree. Not to mention, Tekken was an arcade game.

Tomb Raider was never a Playstation franchise. I don't know why Sony fanboys always think that it's their property. Tomb Raider was debuted on PC, Sega Saturn and Playstation.

Yes, I consider Metal Gear Solid a Playstation franchise, but only as much as I consider Final Fantasy a Nintendo franchise.

Umm no

My first Call of Duty experience was COD 1 + 2 on the PC, i had hundreds of hours in COD before it even ever touched an Xbox, COD on the Xbox means nothing to me..

And final fantasy is more known towards the Nintendo platforms, once again i played about 4 final fantasy's before it ever touched a Playstation....not all gamers are in their 20's or younger..

In conclusion people actually have different experiences from you...shocker....

And i would like to see your proof that the majority of the gaming community thinks as you do.......

All just your own "opinion"

I'll be playing it on PS4 just like I played every metal gear on a PS console. The only exception was "Twin Snakes" on GameCube.

You dont have to be a fanboy to see certain franchises as PS franchises. For Tomb Raider it was the case that a lot more people played them first of PS systems. Not in my case btw. I played the first ones on PC.

Edit: @naz99: If you read my other posts you would see that I am not schocked at all.

I think you're a fucking idiot.......