Do you consider the Wii to be in competition with the HD twins?

Here on SW it often looks most people don't and to be quite honest I see where they're coming from. The differences between the Wii and the HD twins are vastly larger than those between the twins themselves. The marketing and target audience is comepletely different too. One could argue they're not competing for the same sales (to an extent at least, the demographics will definitely overlap).

On the other hand, a gaming console is a gaming console. So from that perspective you could consider them in competiotion. However, is this too simple? You can't say that a car is a car, for example. A family SUV is not in direct competion with a luxurious sedan.

Where does SW stand on this?

No, because they've already defeated them.

Yes, they are.

Who cares if they used a different strategy to pull in gamers? Offering what your competitors don't is one of the most important things a company can do. Motion controls have brought on some great games, and it makes strategy games possible on consoles without dumbing them down too much.

Sony and MS creating their own motion control peripherals is proof enough that the Wii is competiting with them.

No and never have.... I wish I had never bought the system, but theres nothing I can do about that now. I do like some of the up coming games that are coming out for it. But I just cant be asked to play on a system with horrible online and lack of HD support, and the Wii controller is a huge negative for me. I dont really see it competing with the PS3/360... they are just very different.

They clearly are in competition.

I don't get it. Why wouldn't theWii be considered a console. It sells more than both HD consoles combined. It sells the most games, and it is played more than any other console.

No. Vastly inferior hardware cut it from the current gen.

Great games, sales or not.

I don't get it. Why wouldn't theWii be considered a console. It sells more than both HD consoles combined. It sells the most games, and it is played more than any other console.

nintenjoe3

Comprehensive reading.. I'm not saying the Wii isn't a console.

No, the Wii already won.

Although the current line-up is rather weak IMO, it does have great games such as SMG2.

yes. its not directly competing in terms of features n stuff with them but it is in the same market going after the same customers. the sony and MS competition is like two trans atlantic ship liners competing with each other to get customers who want to go accross the atlantic. the wii and HD console competition is more like trans atlantic ship liners vs trans atlantic air liners. same customers....2 very different services but very much in competition.osan0

Yah, I think Nintendo actually had a press conference where they used a similar analogy with Southwestern Airlines. They put it that Southwestern Airlines wasn't trying to directly compete with other airlines because it'd fall flat on it's face, but rather competing with industries like the bussing industry. Both get you going to where you want to go, but they do go about getting you there in different ways. This was back in 2005 or so when they had that press conference.

Sony/MS are the bussing industries, and Nintendo is Southwestern Airlines. Sony/MS are trying to open up a small airport, though.

No, they are different markets which means one would be likely to buy either a ps3/360 and a Wii, or one of the two HD consoles or the Wii.

For me, yes. I have limited amount of money and limited amount of time. Games for Wii, PS3, 360, etc. all compete for that limited gaming space.

No. Vastly inferior hardware cut it from the current gen.

Great games, sales or not.

Shirokishi_

I'm surpised, I would have thought you would have said yes. What is your basis, the tech not keeping up?

they only say that because the wii is handing it to the hd systems honestly of course its in competition

yes. the wii is a video game system..

they went from worst to firstwith a wave of a magic wand:lol:

Yeah. If you're in the same industry you're competing, especially if other companies start copying you. The fact that the Wii has a different demograph doesn't change that.

Yes. While the industry was quick to write it off as an oddity, the Wii has become Nintendo's trojan horse.

Of course it's competeing with the 360 and PS3 here.

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No. Vastly inferior hardware cut it from the current gen.

Great games, sales or not.

ActicEdge

I'm surpised, I would have thought you would have said yes. What is your basis, the tech not keeping up?

Yep.

Its simply too far behing PC/360/PS3 to be considered a competitor or even part of this gen.

That being said, the Wii is a fantastic console.

I don't think the Wii is really trying to be in competition with the HD twins. The Wii is looking out for more of the New "Casual" gamers out there. The 360 and PS3 are after the more experienced "Hardcore" gamers. However is seems that Microsoft is trying to start a competition with Nintendo for the Casual gamers.

Hmm, considering the fact that the PS3 and the 360 are releasing motion control devices solely to catch up to the Wii, I'd say it is competition.

After 5-4 years the HD twins are barely scratching the 40 million mark of consoles sold

i mean really?

It's like comparing 60 year old Farmville player to a Mountain Dewed Korean starcraft 2 player.

It's in a league of it's own.SaltyMeatballs

off topic but do you like NMH2? i just got done with it and i think its a truly great game

In a competition? Yes. How huge of a competition? Not very.

From where I'm sitting, the audience for Kinect/Move consists primarily of those who bought a 360/PS3 all the way back at launch and hasn't bought a Wii yet. There's no way Microsoft could justify $200 for a 360 and another $150 on top of that for motion controls plus $60 for a game. $410 for a 360 with Kinect vs $220 for a Wii? I'd take the Wii. Sony's in a similar situation.

How many people are there that don't have a Wii? I don't know, but I'm willing to believe the numbers aren't big enough to threaten Nintendo. Certainly Microsoft and Sony though.

It's in a league of it's own.SaltyMeatballs

*Clicks link in sig*

So...Much...Win!!! :lol:

Doesn't matter what anyone here says, Sony and Microsoft sure do.

Uh, yeah. Just because fanboys wish the Wii didn't exist, doesn't make it so.

Business wise, no. Its not in competition with the PS3 and 360.

Games wise, ofcourse, its a game console. It plays games.

The wii is a great example of why we shouldn't care about sales, and why we should compare games, not exclusives.

Uh, yeah. Just because fanboys wish the Wii didn't exist, doesn't make it so.

Renegade_Fury

To not like/want/care about theWii you must be a Fanboy?

The Wii exists just like tampons.... I just don't find ether relevant in my life.

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Uh, yeah. Just because fanboys wish the Wii didn't exist, doesn't make it so.

FragTycoon

To not like/want/care about theWii you must be a Fanboy?

The Wii exists just like tampons.... I just don't find ether relevant in my life.

Umm, I'm sorry but did you just compare a console to tampons? Wow, I'm rather speechless. :|

That, and I said "just because fanboys wish the Wii didn't exist," not an illogical analaogy like you wrote.

Yeah they compete with them. Just because it's not HD doesn't make it less good than the Playstation 3 or Xbox 360.

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Uh, yeah. Just because fanboys wish the Wii didn't exist, doesn't make it so.

Renegade_Fury

To not like/want/care about theWii you must be a Fanboy?

The Wii exists just like tampons.... I just don't find ether relevant in my life.

Umm, I'm sorry but did you just compare a console to tampons? Wow, I'm rather speechless. :|

That, and I said "just because fanboys wish the Wii didn't exist," not an illogical analaogy like you wrote.

Yes tampons,

made for menstruating women, not made to be reused and no self respecting man wants to be seen with one.

Tampons.

(I hope you know I'm joking :P )

Competing in that Nintendo made a gaming console, as did the other companies. However, Nintendo has gone for a wider target audience, thus is has a different strategy for compared to Sony and Microsoft. Of course, now the other have gone the way of motion control and are trying to get part of Nintendo's audience. Funny how that works.

Nope. Its like a branch from the main continuum of the generational progression; one that kind of doesn't meet up with the 360 and PS3 (why are they called "the twins," does that imply they don't offer different experiences?) but surpasses the offerings of last generation, and is focused in an entirely different way than the other two consoles.

The fact that the other companies are trying to copy the Wii's success goes to prove they are in competition HarlockJC

My thoughts exactly.

Nope. Its like a branch from the main continuum of the generational progression; one that kind of doesn't meet up with the 360 and PS3 (why are they called "the twins," does that imply they don't offer different experiences?) but surpasses the offerings of last generation, and is focused in an entirely different way than the other two consoles.

foxhound_fox

Yes it is MOVE and Kinect prove it.

Just because it offers a different experience doesn't mean it is not in competition.savebattery

There are more Wiis sold than HD Twins COMBINED. That's not a competiton. That's an extermination.

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Just because it offers a different experience doesn't mean it is not in competition.foxhound_fox

That's all that matters, really. As long as your product is outselling the competition, that's the most important part. Same industry, same deal.

[QUOTE="savebattery"]Just because it offers a different experience doesn't mean it is not in competition.foxhound_fox

Just look at Kinect and Move.

You can't tell me Nintendo is trying to capture the same audience with Wii Play and Nintendogs that they are with Sin and Punishment and Fire Emblem.savebattery