Do you enjoy SW flops?

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#1 Tragic_Kingdom7
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I'm always told that it's somehow wrong to enjoy when a game flops, but I can't help it.It has nothing to do with wanting a game to fail, but everything to do with how freaking funny this place gets when a game flops. I don't really care what games score, so I just find it entertaining to watch the fireworks here.Themore hyped the game, the better. I just really find entertainment value in people losing it because of some guy's opinion. Because that's really a review score is. It might be a well-explained opinion, but it is still an opinion.

I'm hoping atleast one big exclusive flops hard this holiday season.Multi-platform flops don't provide the same kind of entertainment factor that exclusive flops do.

So do you think I'm immoral for having these fiendish desires?

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#2 NielsNL
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Perfectly acceptable. It's why many people are here.

Personally I don't enjoy them since I own all three consoles and any flop screws me too.

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#3 Tragic_Kingdom7
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Perfectly acceptable. It's why many people are here.

Personally I don't enjoy them since I own all three consoles and any flop screws me too.

NielsNL

The thing is, I don't see how flops screw anybody since review scores are just an opinion. That's why I think they are so funny. People take the flops to heart when they shouldn't.

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#4 Renegade_Fury
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Nah, it's all good. I think TP getting 8.8 on Wii, and then later getting 8.9 on GC was the funniest of them all.

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#5 Al3x_n90
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Yeah 'cause i see a lot of silly damage control, althought when a game i have high hopes for flops....well that's not so good for me, but still watching fanboys cheers me up :P

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#6 TheLordHimself
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I enjoy the fanboys' reactions to flops more than anything. Game A gets 8.5... opposing fanboys laugh to high heavens... supporters bring up gameranking scores/whatever...

And of course if a game doesn't flop, fanboys can always make fun of sales, or if the games sold billions... they can just act all high and mighty about how a particular SNES game is still miles better than it, or pick a review from some unknown website and post it as the gospel. Or alternatively, list everything yahtzee says and then ignore what he says when he reviews a game for your system.

So yeah. Flops can make things oddly interesting. :)

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#7 NBSRDan
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It is perfectly acceptable. I take pride in every flop of a bad game, because it sends a message to the industry as a whole.
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#9 jg4xchamp
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oops didn't read the original post :P to a degree i do enjoy it, if only for how hilarious the reactions are for a game they though should get a 9...getting a horrible horrible horrible score of 8.5....god its like the games go from awesome to crap...its hilarious IMO :P.
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#10 AAllxxjjnn
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Ohh yeesss. It's hilarious.
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#11 Blue-Sky
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Its lame.

You have

  • The Group that thinks a flop is a bad game.
  • The group that calls any response, no matter what it is, "damage control"
  • The group that pretend the game wasn't hyped at all.
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#12 whatisazerg
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If it's a game or series that I detest or just have no interest in, then YES.... the rest of the time, NO!

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#13 Irick_cb
Member since 2009 • 1691 Posts

Flops mean lulz.

Lulz are good.

Ergo, flops are good.

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#14 Tragic_Kingdom7
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oops didn't read the original post :P to a degree i do enjoy it, if only for how hilarious the reactions are for a game they though should get a 9...getting a horrible horrible horrible score of 8.5....god its like the games go from awesome to crap...its hilarious IMO :P.jg4xchamp

Exactly.

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#15 Tragic_Kingdom7
Member since 2008 • 4011 Posts

Flops mean lulz.

Lulz are good.

Ergo, flops are good.

Irick_cb

That logic is water-tight,

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#16 zarshack
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yay i was the first person to say you are a jerk!

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#17 rogerjak
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The damage control that comes with a game flopping is just to great.

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#18 Tragic_Kingdom7
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yay i was the first person to say you are a jerk!

zarshack

For that, you win the awesome award of having me quote you.

Enjoy. :P

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#19 jg4xchamp
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Its lame.

You have

  • The Group that thinks a flop is a bad game.
  • The group that calls any response, no matter what it is, "damage control"
  • The group that pretend the game wasn't hyped at all.
Blue-Sky
1- those people are hilarious for how flawed there logic is 2- But aren't those people going "this game isn't a flop"? ...that techinically is damage control 3- Those people are liars, and its once again...hilarious at how serious they take a "flop"
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#20 zarshack
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

yay i was the first person to say you are a jerk!

Tragic_Kingdom7

For that, you win the awesome award of having me quote you.

Enjoy. :P

i feel special now, makes me almost wanna change my vote :o

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#21 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

yay i was the first person to say you are a jerk!

zarshack

For that, you win the awesome award of having me quote you.

Enjoy. :P

i feel special now, makes me almost wanna change my vote :o

you have the ability to change your vote :shock:
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#22 zarshack
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you have the ability to change your vote :shock:jg4xchamp

no =[

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#23 deadesa
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The fights is why i lurk SW, never gets old
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#24 NielsNL
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Perfectly acceptable. It's why many people are here.

Personally I don't enjoy them since I own all three consoles and any flop screws me too.

Tragic_Kingdom7

The thing is, I don't see how flops screw anybody since review scores are just an opinion. That's why I think they are so funny. People take the flops to heart when they shouldn't.

I was thinking more along the line of games that everyone had high expectations of that turned out bad, a more direct definition of flop rather than the SW definition. By that definition when a games flops it sucks for me, since the game that was supposed to be good turned out to suck (examples: Lair, Too Human)

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#25 clembo1990
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The definition of a "flop" relies on a mjority vote in the official hype thread. Seeing as the majority of people are stupid or apathetic when it comes to polls I'll have to say that a flop means nothing.
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#26 Mckenna1845
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i picked: You're a jerk, TK. Get help.

you're not really, you are a hero of men...

anyway i play any game that interest me, i don't think i've played a game rated lower than 4 or maybe even 5, but that's just coincidence that the games look bad rather than i don't look at games that get 5 or below.

edit: awe damn, some guy gets an award for picking jerk. it seems like i'm just jumping on the hype train now, choo choo next stop failville population me :cry:

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#27 Richymisiak
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I loved too human and quite liked two worlds :) flops don't really bother me on SW if i'm interested in the game

flops do get funnier the more they were hyped, so one could argue this year or next may be the funniest year for SW since some games are hyped to hell, hades and the underwolrd and back

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#28 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Perfectly acceptable. It's why many people are here.

Personally I don't enjoy them since I own all three consoles and any flop screws me too.

Tragic_Kingdom7

The thing is, I don't see how flops screw anybody since review scores are just an opinion. That's why I think they are so funny. People take the flops to heart when they shouldn't.

Yeah, because when Lair got a 4.5, it didn't matter because it's just "one person's opinion." In case you haven't noticed, the games held to the highest regard in the world gets excellent score. For the most part, we all have the same wants and desires in a game, so I don't see why you don't think anyone can get upset over a game flopping. It sends a message. When Shadow the Hedgehog got a 4.7, I still got the game. What a mistake.

Anyway, this thread was just created for elitists to project how awesome they are for not caring about review scores, and laughing at fanboys. :roll:

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#29 heretrix
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Well it is interesting to see the steady stream of damage control after a flop.

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#30 Irick_cb
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Yeah, because when Lair got a 4.5, it didn't matter because it's just "one person's opinion." In case you haven't noticed, the games held to the highest regard in the world gets excellent score. For the most part, we all have the same wants and desires in a game, so I don't see why you don't think anyone can get upset over a game flopping. It sends a message. When Shadow the Hedgehog got a 4.7, I still got the game. What a mistake. Anyway, this thread was just created for elitists to project how awesome they are, anyway...DeathScape666

Very few people realize how awesome we are.

We must remind the masses.

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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]Yeah, because when Lair got a 4.5, it didn't matter because it's just "one person's opinion." In case you haven't noticed, the games held to the highest regard in the world gets excellent score. For the most part, we all have the same wants and desires in a game, so I don't see why you don't think anyone can get upset over a game flopping. It sends a message. When Shadow the Hedgehog got a 4.7, I still got the game. What a mistake. Anyway, this thread was just created for elitists to project how awesome they are, anyway...Irick_cb

Very few people realize how awesome we are.

We must remind the masses.

I love how you flaunt being a manticore in your signature.
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#32 Irick_cb
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I love how you flaunt being a manticore in your signature.DeathScape666

It's animated too.

That just adds to the flaunt value.

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#33 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]Yeah, because when Lair got a 4.5, it didn't matter because it's just "one person's opinion." In case you haven't noticed, the games held to the highest regard in the world gets excellent score. For the most part, we all have the same wants and desires in a game, so I don't see why you don't think anyone can get upset over a game flopping. It sends a message. When Shadow the Hedgehog got a 4.7, I still got the game. What a mistake. Anyway, this thread was just created for elitists to project how awesome they are, anyway...DeathScape666

Very few people realize how awesome we are.

We must remind the masses.

I love how you flaunt being a manticore in your signature.

Being a mythical creature should be flaunted. Being a mythical creature with multiple consoles should be worshipped.

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#34 SecretPolice
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I enjoy the heck outta SW flops and in fact some of them are my favorite games this gen. 8)

Yes, yes I know I didn't answer the real question here but I did that using the poll. :P

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#35 ActicEdge
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Flops are funny. Everyone goes all crazy and its fun to watch and participate. The actual floppage of the game sucks though especially if its criticaly panned. One less good game to play.

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#36 heretrix
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The only time I feel bad about a flop is when the game didn't deserve it. Cases in point:

Mass Effect and Uncharted.

They both deserved better than they got. But opinions are opinions.

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#37 KrazyKenKutarag
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Zeno Clash is one of my favourite games of 2009 so far, so yes, I enjoy flops.

EDIT: After actually reading the OP, flops make this place fun.

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#38 shadow_hosi
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only when its in the instance such as lair was hyped as the game to push the system into first and crush the others ect. ect.
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#39 Menalque2
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I mostly hate seeing a game flop. Sonic '06's failure broke my heart.

However, I enjoyed seeing Halo Wars flop if only because it makes a future for console RTS's less likely.

Turning Point: Fall of Liberty's failure was an amusing spectacle.

Also the Conduit's floppage was enjoyable when it made the sheep go into full on damage control mode.

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#40 Rob-Belmont
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I've yet to experience one. But from what I hear the aftermath of a big one can be quite funny.

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#41 Javy03
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I am here in SW for different reasons. I am here to get all the new gaming news. Thanks to fanboys sifting the internet everyday for all the latest news, I only have to come here to SW to find out about the latest gaming news. I want games and gaming to succeed and get better not flop. Now if you are here for the shallow game of "ownage" in SW then I guess I can see how flops might be fun. Me however, I find the endless arguing pretty pointless. It's not like one side EVER admits defeat when a game flops. All you get is petty damage control or people just make new accounts.
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#42 kratos-7
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They're the highlight of SW
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#43 Steel-Panther
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No, i think it's a little pathetic that someone can get enjoyment out of a game flopping. I like it when games on the systems i own actually do good, maybe even exceed the hype.

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#44 agentfred
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Hoping a game fails? That's kinda low.

Hoping to see unreasonable fanboys eat some humble pie? That's not only acceptable, that's expected.

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#45 Chris_Williams
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... i don't look to much into flops.. i know a bad game and when i see it..and i'm usually right so i'm never surprise

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#46 masiisam
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I usually like the flops more then the over hyped games...

Take MGS4...Hated it..IMO it was crap..I would take R&C or Socom over that game any day of the week...