Do you expect the Xbox 720 to flop? [w/ poll]

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#1 Primordialous
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With all the rumors of no BC, no used games, and a required internet-connection, I don't see how anybody would want to buy it. Don't even remind me of Kinect 2.0. Of course, rumors aren't always true, as we saw with the PS4, but based on these rumors do you think the nextbox will flop?

 

Coming from someone who has never owned a Sony console, I really think it will. If I did buy a console next-gen (I won't), I would probably get the PS4. It just looks much more promising than what we are currently seeing from MS.

 

Will we see the nextbox in last place?

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#2 lundy86_4
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Nope.

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#3 Giancar
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Need to see the system (not rumors) to have a better opinion about it.
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#4 chrisrooR
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If it's always online, yes.
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#5 Primordialous
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Need to see the system (not rumors) to have a better opinion about it.Giancar

Yeah. Wait, technically we didn't see the PS4 either :lol:

 

If it's always online, yes. chrisrooR

Not really a problem for me, but I can see how that would ruin it.

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#6 mems_1224
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depends
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#7 crimsonman1245
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I dont think most of the Xbox fans will care about all those things, their controller has an analog stick where the D-pad is suppose to be, you cant put a price on that.

 

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#8 NFJSupreme
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nope.  System Wars does not equal the real world.  System Wars is just a bunch of nerds with nothing better to do than troll each other.

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#9 MonsieurX
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Implies it got hyped?
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#10 WilliamRLBaker
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1. all the rumors isnt right its a few rumors repeated over and over. 2. something has to fall short of predictions to flop. Since we know nothing factual abut the system I dont see any realistic predictions being made.
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#11 Primordialous
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Implies it got hyped?MonsieurX

I have barely seen any pro-MS threads in the past few months :lol:

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#12 R3FURBISHED
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Just like the original and the 360 before it, I suspect the next Xbox will do exceedingly well in the US - and do well enough in Europe and poor in Japan.
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#13 the-obiwan
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If it's always online, yes. chrisrooR
definitly!
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#14 Nike_Air
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Never owned a Sony console. Has PC/360 combo. Facepalm. 

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#15 Primordialous
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Never owned a Sony console. Has PC/360 combo. Facepalm. 

Nike_Air

360 was the better console this gen.

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#16 I_can_haz
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:cool: Yes. Especially if the rumors about always online are true.
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#17 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Never owned a Sony console. Has PC/360 combo. Facepalm. 

Primordialous

360 was the better console this gen.

LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#18 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Never owned a Sony console. Has PC/360 combo. Facepalm. 

Primordialous

360 was the better console this gen.

:lol:

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#19 Primordialous
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[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Never owned a Sony console. Has PC/360 combo. Facepalm. 

Nike_Air

360 was the better console this gen.

LMFAO :lol: :lol: :lol:

I've never owned a PS3, but I have used it enough to base my opinion.

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#20 deactivated-585ea4b128526
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Worldwide prediction on January 1, 2019 Ps4 120M Xbox3 40M Wiiu 35M Steambox 8m Ouya 800,000 Edit: sega dreamcast2 62M
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#21 I_can_haz
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Never owned a Sony console. Has PC/360 combo. Facepalm. 

Primordialous

360 was the better console this gen.

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#22 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

Never owned a Sony console. Has PC/360 combo. Facepalm. 

heeweesRus

360 was the better console this gen.

:lol:

LOL WTF man xD 360 wasnt THAT Bad o-o
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#23 Shielder7
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If the roomers are true and their approach is "Deal with it" than yes
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#24 Primordialous
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

360 was the better console this gen.

the-obiwan

:lol:

LOL WTF man xD 360 wasnt THAT Bad o-o

It was actually quite good. It came in 2nd place, no matter how hard cows try to deny it.

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#25 coasterguy65
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Too early to tell. If the rumors of always online required, and no used games are true. Then yes the Nextbox will flop. Of course right now everything is a rumor.

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#26 crimsonman1245
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

:lol:

Primordialous

LOL WTF man xD 360 wasnt THAT Bad o-o

It was actually quite good. It came in 2nd place, no matter how hard cows try to deny it.

2nd place in games. :cool:

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#27 StrongDeadlift
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Worldwide prediction on January 1, 2019

Ps4 120M

Xbox3 40M

Wiiu 35M

Steambox 8m

Ouya 800,000joehult

I love when Cows make predictions like these.  It reminds me of the predictions cows made for THIS generation :D

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#28 Primordialous
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[QUOTE="joehult"]Worldwide prediction on January 1, 2019

Ps4 120M

Xbox3 40M

Wiiu 35M

Steambox 8m

Ouya 800,000StrongDeadlift

I love when Cows make predictions like these.  It reminds me of the predictions cows made for THIS generation :D

LOL :cool:

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#29 GunSmith1_basic
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there's a lot of bad signs at the moment. If anyone thinks the graphical edge will mean better sales than the wiiu then just look at history. Graphics don't really matter to the mainstream audiences. They won't pay that much extra money for it anyway. Like all systems though, the software can be a saving grace. We've just got to see some.

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#30 BPoole96
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I think it will sell the most, but it will be a Halo/Forza box with full 3rd party support and enough things to appeal to casuals and non gamers to make them buy it. I think the PS4 will be the best for core gamers

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#31 Nintendo_Ownes7
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It could go either way.

I don't care if it succeeds and I don't care if it flops.

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#32 the-obiwan
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[QUOTE="the-obiwan"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

:lol:

Primordialous

LOL WTF man xD 360 wasnt THAT Bad o-o

It was actually quite good. It came in 2nd place, no matter how hard cows try to deny it.

i know right? but i might not get the next xbox if the rumours are true, plus i want more JRPG..
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#33 StrongDeadlift
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[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="the-obiwan"] LOL WTF man xD 360 wasnt THAT Bad o-ocrimsonman1245

It was actually quite good. It came in 2nd place, no matter how hard cows try to deny it.

2nd place in games. :cool:

This is correct.  360 did come 2nd place in total retail games (with 952) to the Wii's 1221.  Even third place, if you count the PC.  But we all know what system came in dead last, the PS3 :cool:

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#34 jun_aka_pekto
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Where's the "I don't know" option? I can't really say because the hardware (for both consoles) aren't even out yet.

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#35 kuraimen
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Hopefully so we can get rid of M$ and save gaming.
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#37 Chris_Williams
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know nothing about it 

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#38 Deadman_est1982
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Even though I won't be buying an Xbox 720 anyways.  I'm a Playstation guy.  The speculation that is running rampant is just that.  Speculation.  I will reserve judgement until Microsoft has their unveiling.  Until then, I'll enjoy the speculation drama.

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#39 NEWMAHAY
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In terms of sales? No way.
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#40 Primordialous
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Where's the "I don't know" option? I can't really say because the hardware (for both consoles) aren't even out yet.

jun_aka_pekto

Left that option to be discussed in the thread

 

I will agree with that last part though, which is why I said "based on the rumors" because some of them are looking to be true as seen by recent events.

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#41 Rattlesnake_8
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If it's always online, yes. chrisrooR
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#42 Bren128
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[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

It was actually quite good. It came in 2nd place, no matter how hard cows try to deny it.

StrongDeadlift

2nd place in games. :cool:

This is correct.  360 did come 2nd place in total retail games (with 952) to the Wii's 1221.  Even third place, if you count the PC.  But we all know what system came in dead last, the PS3 :cool:

Too bad all it has is multiplats Ps3 quality exclusives>>>>>>>360
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#43 superclocked
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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

2nd place in games. :cool:

Bren128

This is correct.  360 did come 2nd place in total retail games (with 952) to the Wii's 1221.  Even third place, if you count the PC.  But we all know what system came in dead last, the PS3 :cool:

Too bad all it has is multiplats Ps3 quality exclusives>>>>>>>360

The 360 has more exclusives than the PS3...
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#44 silversix_
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I think it will be a spectacular flop, not just a flop.
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#45 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

This is correct.  360 did come 2nd place in total retail games (with 952) to the Wii's 1221.  Even third place, if you count the PC.  But we all know what system came in dead last, the PS3 :cool:

superclocked
Too bad all it has is multiplats Ps3 quality exclusives>>>>>>>360

The 360 has more exclusives than the PS3...

The only thing it has is 3 franchises with a yearly rehash each. If I wanted to play the same game each year I can just replay my old ones. The Ps3 has variety +quality and we have more quality exclusives according to the metagame.
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#46 godzillavskong
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For me it's too early to tell All we've been reading is speculations and rumors. Now, some of these rumors are by credible sources, but still rumors nonetheless . IF these rumors are true, then yes, I would say its gonna flop. I've always preferred the Xbox brand, but if the always online, and blocking used games features are true, I'm grabbing a PS4, upgrading my dual 6870 GPUs, and a wiiU later on down the road. I'll be avoiding the 720 alltogether. Im crossing my fingers and hoping these rumors are false, because I'd love to play Gears, Halo, Forza, and Fable on their next system.
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I expect it to sell very well in North America due to the subscription plan, better marketing and how the brand is well established in America. Worldwide we might see another PS3/360 situation.

It won't flop, but I can see it do worse than the 360 worldwide and better than the 360 in US. PS4 will most likely just do the same as the PS3 is currently doing if not a little better due to a better launch. 

It's up to the gamers to decide though if they want a multiplat cablebox that's always online with Halo and Forza with some throwaway early gen exclusives (if it even happens) or a multiplat socialbox with Sony's first party titles (both old and new IPs knowing them) and indie support that isn't always online. *shrugs*

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#48 FragTycoon
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I think it will be a spectacular flop, not just a flop.silversix_

I actually hope consumers speak a loud and clear NO! to "always on" gaming by not buying the console.

Unfortunately history has proven media influence can overwhelm logic.

MS could package poo in a can, sell it with a subscription fee and there will still be a million or more lemmings standing around yo buy it.

It will most likely sell more than the WiiU... oddly enough... at this point... I'd rather buy a WiiU than MS's next subscription scam.

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#49 sniper_99
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If it has always online, yes
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#50 Bren128
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[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

This is correct.  360 did come 2nd place in total retail games (with 952) to the Wii's 1221.  Even third place, if you count the PC.  But we all know what system came in dead last, the PS3 :cool:

superclocked
Too bad all it has is multiplats Ps3 quality exclusives>>>>>>>360

The 360 has more exclusives than the PS3...

Correction, I said Quality exclusives which according to metacritic ps3 has more of. 360 has multiplats and Xbla games.............