Do you feel bad about CRYTEK?

Damn, was just checking CRYTEK upcoming games on wiki, all F2P plus they are laying off staff on studios. What happened to that Homefront game?

I'm feeling sorry for Cevat Yerli ( Facry, Crysis ). Is it consolisation of games reason for downfall of Crytek or shoddy games as Crysis sequels or Ryse?

Do you feel bad about Crytek's present situation ?

The problem is PC pirates killed crytek. Its so sad in reality.

No

I can't beleive jankarcop lately against PC gaming. You were like biggest console hater on SW =P

I dont feel bad at all, they made stupid choices and made some shitty games

Nope.

Never much cared for them ever. They had hope once upon a time, but eh.

Yeah it is always sad to see when Studios fall. Crytek currently is Falling it seems. What It stems from? well.

I assume part of it is that Crytek turned thier back on its fans and what thier games stood for mid last generation. Far Cry and Crysis were both fairly big and open (I would claim that Far Cry were the better game by far). And while they had always pushed Graphics, what made them special were the open natur of thier games, and relative flexibility.

Problems seems to have started around Crysis 2, a game which in story, in setting, in pretty much everything turned its back on what Crysis had been, Thus alienating the fans they already had, and betting alot of Money on the console versions selling great, they never truely did, Crysis 2 were a mildly more open fps them then usual, but were pretty run of the mill kind of game, with disjointed story and painfully annoying characters. It was not a bad game, but on consoles where perhaps 5 games make it big a year, it was not one of them.

They recoiled alot from that, and Made Crysis 3 to be more focused with a bit more open nature. It still felt like a rollercoaster ride then you walking the path you saw fit, with too many set pieces and a protagonist so unberably obnoxious that it would have turned most people away from it. It can be argued that the PC version is still the best looking game released, but the gameplay had been mirrored in alot of games since Crysis 1, and Crytek had not managed to push thier game series farwards, rather it felt like it was slowly going backwards. Graphically steller sure, but gameplay wise it felt tired.

In the same time Crytek were banking on selling the Cry Engine, a really potent engine althrough slightly complex and cumbersome to Work with sompared to others, while it matured and became better it suffered from massive competition and I am not sure how well thier support were. A shame really but for alot of people the UE4 seems to have had a negative impact on thier engine (not an engine coder so can't say if true or not). and they kind of got outshone by the Frostbyte engine.

Crytek were very pro F2P right from the beginning, but I doubt it went the way they thought it would. I have no numbers but F2P on PC seems to have cought on to a far less degree then Mobile games did, and I think they thought it would spread like wildfire, however the community on pc were quite weary of F2P (and quite outspoken about it, it is few F2P games that has a good rep).

Then ofcourse there was the spending spree. CCrytek bought in ALOT of studios relatively fast, which may have caused alot of infrastructure problems, and they might have bled Cash through this. And all that staff had Little to show for it, outside of a moderately sucessful F2P game in Russia and a series of letdowns.

o yeah it is sad, I doubt this will kill them, but they will likely become alot smaller. They need to focus on gameplay Again, and keep as much attention to making thier games flexible and fairly different if they should hope to bounce back into full glory. They should let Crysis die (if they have'nt already) and perhaps search for a different Publisher, since they do need a console presence abd EA is great there, however EA does require the PC version to run off Origin, which does cut into sales since that tends to prevent the game from being sold on Steam (which is the equalant of saying that it were not allowed to be sold through gamestop if it was a console version).

I got a Playstation and my life literally changed.

so you no longer have sex with unconscious women?

that was a troll. I am sorry for tricking you.

You troll about initiating non-consensual sex and consider it a trick? You sound pretty terrible

Nice. Enjoy best of both worlds ( PC and PS ) i'd advise :)

Crytek was doing well until they went multiplatform . Their games started to suck and people both on PC and consoles stopped supporting them . I think Cevat Yerli needs to resign . He is still chasing F2P money .

I feel bad for them because they had huge potential and their graphics engine is the best . Even if they don't make good games anymore , their engine is being used by fair amount of devs . It may be complex and tricky to use but it's worth it .

I don't think he's telling the truth...

Why is he lying?

he's a troll

Figures why Crytek doing so bad now :(

why I never...

No. They made their own bed, chasing every fad out there (consoles, then F2P and now propably mobile).

The sad thing is that Crytek was hugely successful as PC centric developer. Now, I'm not one who thinks expanding to consoles and then to F2P was a bad idea. What was bad was transfering the whole business into it and abandoning previous fanbase. Crytek is huge. They could have easily diversyfy, keeping one or two PC only teams to make engine and create games for Crysis 1 fans on PC, then two more teams creating lighter multiplatform FPSes (like Crysis spin-offs, Ryse or Timesplitters) and two more teams for F2P/mobile. This would allow them to satisfy multiple markets and not break apart when they fail at one of them.

Instead Crytek first threw out their pc audience for console one and then threw their console audience for F2P PC audience, which never really materialized.

Crysis was great, their sequels didn't live up to my expectations.. I cannot comment on Ryse since I just played 10 mins at a local gaming store but lets say it didn't make me want to play more..

Probably Crytek focused more on technology and less on the other essential elements that make a great game !!

Not at all, they choose the path. Warface is a massive flop outside Russia because the game is horrible. They have two more F2P games they are basically banking on to see them through the winter. Given the saturation of the MOBA market, and numerous games that will compete with the other title, I think they are in for a tough time. Cevat (and Crytek) believe that the future is F2P, but they don't seem to have a backup plan if things go pear shaped. Maybe Russia will keep them afloat.

Crytek grew too fast and expected to get all the glory, but they were doing much better when they were smaller and focused. What kind of developers have the power to sell off a franchise and use it to fund a game that was basically the best shooter in 2007? How can you go from that kind of strength to selling of a franchise you just bought and struggling to pay your staff?

It's clear they made some bad business mistakes in the last few years, but their games also have not been up to scratch either. The F2P games will likely see them limp around for the next few years before they fade into obscurity or decide to make some real changes. I believe there is still time and money to turn things around. I believe they have talent at the studio. But I think there is a slim chance they will return to their former glory.

Crytek sold out and it backfired tremendously.

Yes, of course. I blame consolizing the game for the downfall. Immediately when Crysis became multiplatform, everything was f***ed. Crysis 2 was linear as hell. Crysis 3 was even more linear, short and boring as hell. Even look at Crysis 1 for consoles it came after FOUR years, yet it sucked. Even Ryse. Crytek should've sticked with the Master Race only. I hope CDPR know what they're doing. :/

Well, they did get rid of Crytek UK, which I'm fine with, they never should have acquired them to begin with. The people that brought us the "Halo Killer" Haze, which they paid for its delayed development with money that was meant for Battlefield III, which they couldn't deliver. And Crytek thought it smart to invest in them, that was a big mistake IMO.

Anyhow, don't feel bad for the laid off employees, the Wiki page explains the Homefront project was taken by Deep Silver, and the Crytek UK employees transferred over to Deep Silver Dambuster studio in Basingstoke to keep working on the game, so as far as I know they still have their jobs, for now, they're just under new management, and have been displaced to the south.

No, they haven't ever made a great game on consoles, just some mediocre CoD clones with pretty graphics. Let the PC gamers have that F2P trash that they're cooking now, it's not like we already have enough MOBAs but whatever, Crytek is pathetic.

the only game that was decent was the original Far Cry game on the PC.

i agree with this post

also i think they kinda overextended

My friend, confusion arises. The Witcher 2, plays like a console game. It is completely redesigned from the Witcher 1 and was shown in preview, running on an Xbox360 pad.

The combat is streamlined, features console like QTE, console like stealth sections. Yes I see people (not just you specifically) praising them while bashing Crytek. When, essentially, they have done the exact same thing.

The Witcher 2, is pretty much a console game. It might have launched on the pc but as a game, it plays like it's made for consoles. Witcher 3 will also most likely be this way.

A very, very strange attitude people have towards CDP.

Worth noting as well CDP attempted and still are attempting to charge £49.99 for the Witcher 3 on steam, a console next gen price. As if, it was a console game. And not a £29.99 pc game. When I brought this up (heroically) I was of course, dogged and attacked by pc gamers. Like Jesus pierced by the Roman spear, I endured.

No. Crytek killed crytek.

This is the opposite of like everything. The biggest PC games are F2P and some of the most profitable games period are F2P. F2P has definitely caught on.

Ofcourse. People losing their jobs is never a good thing. Crytek made their mistakes, but it still sucks for the devs working there

No, its one of those shoulda, woulda, coulda ..stuck with PC. Their own greed is their downfall. :P

He soldout basicalyy

and on topic: i dont feel bad about crytek. they deserve it the way they treat PC gamers like second class citizen. they start excellent PC game like crysis but for money they aim towards casuals, consoles and lowest common denominator. after that they are going bankrupt

onlything can save crytek is if they back to PC once again

Not really

I thought Crysis 1 was an amazing game and definitely made Crytek a recognizable studio. Crysis 2 turned out pretty average and Crysis 3 and Ryse are simply bad games. I don't really care for them when their creative spark died out 6 years ago.

I imagine when you get banned on your troll accounts enough times it's hard to come up with new ones, so you have to switch your trolling angles on mains to keep up.

Still..F2P isn't anywhere near as big part of pcgaming as it is of mobile.

Plus if you look at F2P market, few games are really successful. Those that are do amazing numbers, but even they are low end graphically and usually the whole studio focuses solely on this project, or two.

Meanwhile Crytek went for F2P with high-end graphics engine, which automatically alienated most of their potential audience and what's worse, they switched majority of their teams to F2P projects, while still keeping those teams big. It was bound to fail.

After they bought Free Radical and their intellectual property (Timesplitters), and relegated such a talented team to making Crysis multiplayer, and teasing Timesplitters fans with an HD collection (Cevat Yerli came out and said if he can see a petition with over 250,000 signatures, he'd make an HD collection) and doing nothing else with the IP (Free Radical staff were already well under way making a TS4)... I've come to despise them as a company and won't shed a tear if they go under.

Cevat Yerli is a pompous dickhead who should have stayed loyal to his PC fanbase. He wouldn't be suffering right now.

I make a point of not getting emotional about business, so no. I enjoyed the crisis games and Far Cry.

Crytek had the potential as a PC-only dev. They lost their edge when they went multiplat.

It sucks nobody else has managed to utilize CryEngine to the same level that they have. But their games, post Crysis, have all been generally unremarkable.

They had an audience and they sold out to be with consolities.

No they did it to themselfs, dint like crysis but then again they totally gone lazy with crysis 2 and 3. So they went from open world and interaction to linear corridors.

Meh, i am so glad they dont staim homefront 2 with their name anymore.

Is that u sniper I thought you we're dead.

not really. im not going to go on about betraying anyone or anything like that. its rare that making exclusives makes sense but sometimes it can.

far cry and crysis were successful but why were they successful? well it was the tech first. lets not kid around here....crysis was a technical tour de force (and with tweaks can still be a looker despite its age).

but the tech also offered new tools to the developers. the game had technological driven gameplay (i.e. they found they could do new things like blowing up buildings into little bits, making those bits interactive so they thought "why not let the player use said bits as weapons. take a helicopter out with a bit of debris". the focus on high end hardware gave crytek a bigger toolbox). stuff like that wasnt really done before (HL2 was the closest).

but after that they just stopped. the toolbox didnt get any bigger because crytek had to hobble their technical ambition to fit on consoles. the brutal reality is that crytek are not great game designers. crysis was fun because it allowed the player to do things they couldnt do before and provided a level of detail unseen before. but for crysis 2 and 3 we had already seen it and other games were doing it better. the tech wasnt earth shattering (for crysis 2 is was arguably a step backwards), no bar was getting raised in any area by crysis 2 or 3. so what was the appeal? MP? many other games do that better. the Sp campaign? not even worth talking about. new gameplay brought about by technological development? negative.

im not saying they should have ignored consoles. if they were going dev shopping then they should have bought developers who knew what they were doing in the console world. the engine also has to be multiplatform so having those devs optimising the engine for the consoles of the day is also very valuable.

but they should have continued to push the tech. that was their USP. there are many areas that are around 5 years off the pace now because we havent had a crysis since crysis. the state of GPGPU and hardware accelerated physics in gaming is a joke. cloth and hair simulation remain basic (its improving but where AC unity and tomb raider are now is where we should have been 5 years ago). games like crysis have a big knock on effect because it gives hardware designers and manufacturers a target. they should have looked into more ways to fund this direction (retail sales are not the only way to sell PC games and havent been for a long long time). perhaps they could offer expansion packs on a more regular basis that bring in engine upgrades as well as new content with new gameplay (and pretty graphics) to show off the new elements of the engine. or sell hats for MP...seems to work for valve :P.

of course whatever engine they build has to be multiplatform, as i say. companies wont license it if it will only work on the highest of the high end of PCs. but crytek was supposed to be about raising the bar in tech and playing around with what that new tech could do. thats what far cry and crysis did. thats what crysis 2 and 3 failed to do (and ryse also looks meh. pretty but meh).

Far Cry and Crysis were widely successful.

Then Crytek made the terrible decision of abandoning its loyal fans on PC who paved their way, and the end became inevitable with the release of Crysis 2. It was all too late to regain the faith of PC gamers by the time Crysis 3 was in motion.

It's always sad when more developers lose their jobs. Hopefully they can make a comeback in the future. We've lost too many developing companies over the last 10 years.

Why? They never even made a good game

Far Cry and Crysis?

I thought Far Cry was Ubisoft? Regardless they couldn't compete in the industry. Capitalism isn't perfect. Sometimes it weeds out companies you would rather had stayed. However far more often it gets rid of the trash.