Do you guys think MS and Sony willl steal Nintendo's idea?

Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleaseNFS102

Six Axis m8, Six Axis.

[QUOTE="NFS102"]Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleasedotWithShoes

Six Axis m8, Six Axis.

Yeah, I know that. But will they actually use a control like the Wii-mote and use it for games like the Wii's where you can actually aim where your shooting by pointing the Wii-mote.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

[QUOTE="NFS102"]Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleaseNFS102

Six Axis m8, Six Axis.

Yeah, I know that. But will they actually use a control like the Wii-mote and use it for games like the Wii's where you can actually aim where your shooting by pointing the Wii-mote.

In that case, what you're saying has nothing to do with motion sensing. The pointer is a IR pointer, no motion sensing there.

[QUOTE="NFS102"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

[QUOTE="NFS102"]Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleasedotWithShoes

Six Axis m8, Six Axis.

Yeah, I know that. But will they actually use a control like the Wii-mote and use it for games like the Wii's where you can actually aim where your shooting by pointing the Wii-mote.

In that case, what you're saying has nothing to do with motion sensing. The pointer is a IR pointer, no motion sensing there.

The Wii does use motion sensing controls, like in LoZ where you can swing your Wii-mote to swing your sword. You still haven't answered my question which is what this topic is about. Do you think motion sensing controls will travel to MS and Sony consoles?

Microsoft won't, but Sony might, since they've already somewhat delved into it with the Sixaxis. Besides, unless Sony picks up, they probably will make a full motion IR system with HD graphics to be the best of both worlds.

However, it seems like they're picking up, so that might not happen.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="NFS102"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

[QUOTE="NFS102"]Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleaseNFS102

Six Axis m8, Six Axis.

Yeah, I know that. But will they actually use a control like the Wii-mote and use it for games like the Wii's where you can actually aim where your shooting by pointing the Wii-mote.

In that case, what you're saying has nothing to do with motion sensing. The pointer is a IR pointer, no motion sensing there.

The Wii does use motion sensing controls, like in LoZ where you can swing your Wii-mote to swing your sword. You still haven't answered my question which is what this topic is about. Do you think motion sensing controls will travel to MS and Sony consoles?

Well sony already has a form of motion sensing. It's the question of whether they can take it to the next level (ie. full emulation of motion controls you're complete movements will be repicated fully in game).

they probably will use them in there next controllers in some way...especially the motion sensing (which is a bit of a narly call but ill get to that in a sec). i dont think they will make such a radical departures from the standard controller though...itllprobably be like the DS3 for the PS4 and 720 but shaped differently so that it can be held sideways or something if needed.

of course if they are going to focus on implementing motion sensors into their next controllers then there also looking at the wrong side of the wiimote imho. its the ir camera and pointing capability that they should be really looking at. that addition to the wiimote has been a godsend for consoles imho. it basically brings alot of mouse functionality to the controller which is ace. RTSs would work properly on a console...instead of a console getting a RTS for dummies version. thats one basic example.

motion sensing is all well and good but id be far happier if all controllers had a pointing capability like the wiimote.

but yeah i think they will be "inspired" by alot of nintys ideas. its the way its always been really. the standard issue controller today is based on ideas from the N64.

Not only will they copy motion sensing, that's a given. Their next generation of controllers will look and feel a lot like the wiimote + nunchuk combo.LordQuorthon

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I hope not. It doesn't work with every genre and I hope they stick to traditional controllers because IMO motion sensing is just a gimmick.

its possible. I dont care either way. motion controls arent what make games good. SSBB is a living testament to that fact. JPOBS

[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]Not only will they copy motion sensing, that's a given. Their next generation of controllers will look and feel a lot like the wiimote + nunchuk combo.Shadow2k6

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I hope not. It doesn't work with every genre and I hope they stick to traditional controllers because IMO motion sensing is just a gimmick.

Hell no they won't that's comical. imagine playing a FPS with the wii mote+nunchuck :lol:

I dont even think Nintendo will stick to the same idea next gen

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I hope not. It doesn't work with every genre and I hope they stick to traditional controllers because IMO motion sensing is just a gimmick.

Shadow2k6

Get used to the idea. Nintendo sets standards for controllers. They invented the D pad and everybody started using it. They invented the L and R buttons and everybody started using them. They invented the analog stick and everybody started using it. They invented rumble and everybody started using it. The pattern is clear.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="NFS102"][QUOTE="dotWithShoes"]

[QUOTE="NFS102"]Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleaseNFS102

Six Axis m8, Six Axis.

Yeah, I know that. But will they actually use a control like the Wii-mote and use it for games like the Wii's where you can actually aim where your shooting by pointing the Wii-mote.

In that case, what you're saying has nothing to do with motion sensing. The pointer is a IR pointer, no motion sensing there.

The Wii does use motion sensing controls, like in LoZ where you can swing your Wii-mote to swing your sword. You still haven't answered my question which is what this topic is about. Do you think motion sensing controls will travel to MS and Sony consoles?

I didn't say the Wii doesn't use motion controls. but what you said, and I quote... "but will they actually use a control like the Wii-mote and use it for games like the Wii's where you can actually aim where your shooting by pointing the Wii-mote.".. that has nothing to do with motion controls, that is all with the IR pointer. I answered your question with my first post, Sony has already started it with the six axis. Now the question of will they add a IR pointer to their controller next gen, that I couldn't really say.. Sony(copying Nintendo) & Microsoft(copying Apple) has always been good at copying other companies.

Hell no they won't that's comical. imagine playing a FPS with the wii mote+nunchuck :lol:

I dont even think Nintendo will stick to the same idea next gen

f50p90

A First Person Shooter? It works better than any other controller, except WASD + mouse. Gametrailers.com described Metroid Prime 3's controls as "almost a religious experience", and they were damn right.

Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleaseNFS102

Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. OhSnapitz

Considering Sony stole most of their ideas from Nintendo, I don't see why not... Microsoft though it can go either way.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. X_Evo

Considering Sony stole most of their ideas from Nintendo, I don't see why not... Microsoft though it can go either way.

...who stole their ideas from Atari.. :|

Yes, knowing it actually worked for the wii and has it selling like crazy, MS and SONY wouldn't think twice in adding it.

Everyone saying no must have forgotten about the Playstation 1 and the N64. N64 was the first with analog sticks, then they realesed a PS controller with analog sticks. N64 had the rumble pack, and a few months later dual shock 1 came out. Its not just Sony but back then MS wasn't in the video game wars so I can't mention them.

Nintendo has pretty much invented everything found on the modern video game controller. 4 face buttons, should buttons, analog stick and d-pad, grips, wireless, triggers, vibration... Nintendo was the first to put all of that stuff on consoles.

Just like with the Wii, when they first revealed it everyone said it was the dumbest idea possible, now they are standards. The Wii controls will be the same. Maybe not as the primary control source, but I can see MS and Sony having an alternate controller.

Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. OhSnapitz

what did they steal from Atari?

[QUOTE="X_Evo"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. OhSnapitz

Considering Sony stole most of their ideas from Nintendo, I don't see why not... Microsoft though it can go either way.

...who stole their ideas from Atari.. :|

What did they steal from Atari :|?

Everyone saying no must have forgotten about the Playstation 1 and the N64. N64 was the first with analog sticks, then they realesed a PS controller with analog sticks. N64 had the rumble pack, and a few months later dual shock 1 came out. Its not just Sony but back then MS wasn't in the video game wars so I can't mention them.

Nintendo has pretty much invented everything found on the modern video game controller. 4 face buttons, should buttons, analog stick and d-pad, grips, wireless, triggers, vibration... Nintendo was the first to put all of that stuff on consoles.

Just like with the Wii, when they first revealed it everyone said it was the dumbest idea possible, now they are standards. The Wii controls will be the same. Maybe not as the primary control source, but I can see MS and Sony having an alternate controller.

Senor_Kami

your kidding yourself buddy. the analog stick was first implemented on the Atari, the joystick, its basically a smaller joystick. The Rumble pak ran on batteries, Sony implemented the rumble into the controller. Wireless? Triggers? No Nintendo console I beleive has triggers, and wireless has been in every electronic, Nintendo didnt "invent" wireless technology. d-pad? Grips? now I know Nintendo didnt use those first. 4 face buttons? Every controller has that. even the Atari had one.

Just a thought. Do you think that MS and Sony will start using motion sensing controls like the Wii? I personally don't think it will happen soon, but I think that sometime MS and Sony will eventually start using the motion sensing function. No fanboys pleaseNFS102

Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. OhSnapitz

:| i think you need to do some research

your kidding yourself buddy. the analog stick was first implemented on the Atari, the joystick, its basically a smaller joystick. The Rumble pak ran on batteries, Sony implemented the rumble into the controller. Wireless? Triggers? No Nintendo console I beleive has triggers, and wireless has been in every electronic, Nintendo didnt "invent" wireless technology. d-pad? Grips? now I know Nintendo didnt use those first. 4 face buttons? Every controller has that. even the Atari had one.

CWEBB04z

1) Joystick =/= analog stick.

2) Rumble pack ran on batteries has no bearing on the fact that it added vibration to controllers.

3) Triggers... flip your N64 controller over and tell me what the thing in the middle is.

4) Of course nintendo didn't invent wireless... they were just the first to put it into their controllers. I thought everyone would understand thats what I meant.

5) By grips I mean the boomerang-esque shape that you grab controllers with. N64 had it first and over time its only gotten to where everyone else's controllers have more exagerated ones (with the N64 having the most exagerated ones).

6) What atari system are you talking about? Neither the 2600. 7800 or ST had 4 face buttons in the now standard cross shape that the SNES debuted.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. beerm_basic

:| i think you need to do some research

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your kidding yourself buddy. the analog stick was first implemented on the Atari, the joystick, its basically a smaller joystick. The Rumble pak ran on batteries, Sony implemented the rumble into the controller. Wireless? Triggers? No Nintendo console I beleive has triggers, and wireless has been in every electronic, Nintendo didnt "invent" wireless technology. d-pad? Grips? now I know Nintendo didnt use those first. 4 face buttons? Every controller has that. even the Atari had one.

CWEBB04z

Atari's joystick and the Analog stick are different, if I recall.. don't really care about that argument so I wont look for proof. Triggers? You mean shoulder buttons? the Super Nintendo has shoulder buttons, which if you wanna call em different things... then 'triggers' are a evolutio, thus copied, from Nintendo. Every controller doesn't/didn't have 4 face buttons.. the Genesis had 3 face buttons to begin with. And what Atari controller had 4 face buttons?

[QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

your kidding yourself buddy. the analog stick was first implemented on the Atari, the joystick, its basically a smaller joystick. The Rumble pak ran on batteries, Sony implemented the rumble into the controller. Wireless? Triggers? No Nintendo console I beleive has triggers, and wireless has been in every electronic, Nintendo didnt "invent" wireless technology. d-pad? Grips? now I know Nintendo didnt use those first. 4 face buttons? Every controller has that. even the Atari had one.

dotWithShoes

Atari's joystick and the Analog stick are different, if I recall.. don't really care about that argument so I wont look for proof. Triggers? You mean shoulder buttons? the Super Nintendo has shoulder buttons, which if you wanna call em different things... then 'triggers' are a evolutio, thus copied, from Nintendo. Every controller doesn't/didn't have 4 face buttons.. the Genesis had 3 face buttons to begin with. And what Atari controller had 4 face buttons?

This one had a BUNCH of buttons:

the entire industry is built off of stolen ideas.... Is it even a bad thing anymore? I mean the FPS genre is basically combining Half-Life(which introduced storytelling) and Wolfenstein/Doom(which introduced the FPS gameplay) with a few gimmicks here and a change of the story there... Heck, until Half-Life, the FPS genre was literally called "Doom Clones." The entire RPG genre is just an evolution of Ultima among other old RPG's(which were copied from tabletop RPG's like D&D). RTS's are just an evolution of Dune style of gameplay. The entire industry is built off of copying other games and other ideas.... So get your heads out of your *** and stop acting like someone else "stealing" an idea is even remotely new in this industry.horrowhip

still waiting for someone to tell me when someone else copying someone became new....

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[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. Nagidar

:| i think you need to do some research

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yea i read the bottom and it said the thing sucked...and he said MOST not one thing nintendo has innovated lots of things over there time

[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="beerm_basic"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. beerm_basic

:| i think you need to do some research

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yea i read the bottom and it said the thing sucked...and he said MOST not one thing nintendo has innovated lots of things over there time

Doesn't change the fact that this thread is about Sony and Microsoft stealing from Nintendo, Nintendo DID NOT pioneer Motion sensing and I just proved that. PERIOD.

[QUOTE="beerm_basic"][QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="beerm_basic"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Considering Nintendo Stole most of their ideas from Atari, why not.. Nagidar

:| i think you need to do some research

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yea i read the bottom and it said the thing sucked...and he said MOST not one thing nintendo has innovated lots of things over there time

Doesn't change the fact that this thread is about Sony and Microsoft stealing from Nintendo, Nintendo DID NOT pioneer Motion sensing and I just proved that. PERIOD.

i didnt ask you too :| snap said nintendo stole most of there ideas from atari when quite clearly they didnt

as far as im concerned nintendo are the poineer of making a successful motion sensing controller the rest have been rubbish

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Doesn't change the fact that this thread is about Sony and Microsoft stealing from Nintendo, Nintendo DID NOT pioneer Motion sensing and I just proved that. PERIOD.

beerm_basic

i didnt ask you too :| negidar said nintendo stole most of there ideas from atari when quite clearly they didnt

as far as im concerned nintendo are the poineer of making a successful motion sensing controller the rest have been rubbish

Nintendo made motion sensing mainstream, nothing more, the other motion sensing controllers from the other companies could have been better if they were used correctly. Nintendo DID NOT pioneer motion sensing, the end.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="CWEBB04z"]

your kidding yourself buddy. the analog stick was first implemented on the Atari, the joystick, its basically a smaller joystick. The Rumble pak ran on batteries, Sony implemented the rumble into the controller. Wireless? Triggers? No Nintendo console I beleive has triggers, and wireless has been in every electronic, Nintendo didnt "invent" wireless technology. d-pad? Grips? now I know Nintendo didnt use those first. 4 face buttons? Every controller has that. even the Atari had one.

Nagidar

Atari's joystick and the Analog stick are different, if I recall.. don't really care about that argument so I wont look for proof. Triggers? You mean shoulder buttons? the Super Nintendo has shoulder buttons, which if you wanna call em different things... then 'triggers' are a evolutio, thus copied, from Nintendo. Every controller doesn't/didn't have 4 face buttons.. the Genesis had 3 face buttons to begin with. And what Atari controller had 4 face buttons?

This one had a BUNCH of buttons:

Don't see anything that resembles Nintendo's 4 face button layout that both the Playstation brand and Xbox have used.

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Nintendo made motion sensing mainstream, nothing more, the other motion sensing controllers from the other companies could have been better if they were used correctly. Nintendo DID NOT pioneer motion sensing, the end.

Nagidar

i never said they did :|

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Nintendo made motion sensing mainstream, nothing more, the other motion sensing controllers from the other companies could have been better if they were used correctly. Nintendo DID NOT pioneer motion sensing, the end.

beerm_basic

i never said they did :|

Yes, you did, "as far as im concerned nintendo are the poineer of making a successful motion sensing controller the rest have been rubbish" which is false, Nintendo didn't pioneer a successful motion sensing controller, they made it mainstream, it comes with the console, devs have basically no choice but to make use of it, hell, some games use the Wiimote horribly.