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#101 darklight4
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Don't hate the box just the company that owns it. I owned a 360 last gen and ps3, with ps4 having better performing multiplats and I like Sony's 1rst party more I see no reason for me to own an Xbone.

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#102 GTSaiyanjin2
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I dont hate the X1, but I do wish it had more exclusives, seeing as I wont be buying many multiplats for it this gen. I'm sure Quantum Break,Halo 5, and Gears of war will be worth it in the end. Still I hope MS brings the system many more exclusives, games like PGR,Perfect Dark, or a new Banjo would make for great exclusives.

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#103  Edited By WolfgarTheQuiet
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@Tighaman: 1. PS4 online play isn't broken

2. Why get Xbox when its best games end up on PC plus many more PC games to play along.

3. Kinnect coming to PC, another reason not to get Xbox

4. Rather support lesser evil corporation with great gaming history. MS, Monsanto and Eugenics. So i can only give them so much money, which is only buying windows, mainly second hand tho.

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#105 sniLOWANGper
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@Toph_Girl250 said:

Well, I don't think I so much as hate X Box Consoles, but the company that makes them, if Microsoft and their gadgets didn't have such a bad rep (and they have a bad rep for good reasons; windows 8 blech) if Microsoft were ever able to get its sh!t together, I think I would have an X Box console by now.

I agree. xbox ruined gaming

but nintendo only make childish games. girly games. so they suck too.

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#106 legendofsense
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@Tighaman said:

Are you willing to lack exclusives for a year and rely on multiplats when you can buy a console that has all the same games and great exclusives this year including one of the best FPS series ever?

Are you willing to pay for an online that's broken all of the time when you can buy a system with stable online with most games with online components.

Since Destiny came out more games coming out that's Online heavy COD, AC, GTA if the Online on your console cant handle the consoles that's out now whats going to happen in these holiday months? Do you hate xbox that much that you would pay for a less functional system?

Who are you talking to? The 10 million plus people who bought a ps4? lol

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#107 smashed_pinata
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Forget the bone and the 5station 4, get the WiiU. The console with AAAAE games son.

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#108  Edited By lamprey263
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I don't hate Xbox or MS. I was probably a bigger Xbox fanboy than anything else with the Xbox 360, and a much bigger Xbox fan through that generation as well. For now I'd say I'm more a Nintendo enthusiast as I've settled on a Wii U and 3DS while I let the market figure out where the Xbox One and PS4 are going. But I'll definitely say MS dropped the ball on the Xbox One in many areas. It's like they didn't have a grasp of what made their console popular, its strengths over the competition, the mistakes of their competition, or the things that gamers hate. And lately I feel that MS doesn't even have a grasp to utilize its resources on improving its situation. They wasted $2.5 billion on Minecraft, retained none of the figureheads and talent that made it, and all while the game has been ported every-which-way. I see no future in that move that pays off for the Xbox One. That's $2.5 billion that could have funded a substantial amount of well funded exclusives and really tilted things in their favor. Add whatever money they used to acquire Tomb Raider, and the billion they said they've put into XBO exclusive content thus far ($400 million of which went into a 5 year contract for an NFL fantasy football app), I worry this all will make investors and the company troubled with how things have played out, that their patience will grow thin with the gaming/Xbox division, and when they need to finally utilize their resources the proper way maybe the company might not be so forthcoming with the money when it matters.

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#109  Edited By Shewgenja
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@2_Quiet_2_Riot said:
@Shewgenja said:

Actually, aside from the GDDR5 being used as shared memory, the APU also has a form of hUMA that allows for the CPU and GPU to uniformly reference memory addresses. This cuts down significantly on the amount of latency as well as RAM usage caused by duplicating objects in memory for the CPU and GPU to make calculations against (being the current game design paradigm in PC and other consoles).

So, aside from the fact that I already have a gaming PC, you are flatly wrong assuming the PS4 shares the architecture of the XBone in a pretty large fundamental way that impacts gaming performance. Were PC developers to code to the strengths of hUMA APUs in the PC space, that would still make the PS4 essentially a gaming laptop from a road map into the very near future now. As it is a closed development environment independent of PC development to a large degree, then your argument holds even less water.

I'm willing to admit my limited knowledge on the tech side of things in gaming. But I know well enough how much irony there is in your arguments, especially you being a PC gamer.

Historically, PCs have and will always be superior to the closed platform environment of Consoles. And all that ramble about "PC developers to code to the strengths of hUMA, APUs, in the PC space, making the PS4 essentially a gaming laptop from a road map into the very near future now"...LOL....WTF? Why do you even care? You just said you have a gaming PC. PC technology have always evolved at the capacity faster than consoles. It seems you're sugar coating way too much on the PS4's capability, which is powerful, but no where near the power of a PC, or a PC, built 2-3 months from now.

You simply needed to admit is: "Hey, I'm a Cow...I love PS4 way way way better than X1 and even my PC, which I love to hide behind, because deep down I can't run the original Crysis in it!!!"

I just think the technology is neat. I'll always have a dedicated CPU and a graphics card, because that is where you ultimately can throw horsepower at a games performance. Gaming on an APU is a novel concept, though. Like watching a Lotus Elise versus a Lamborghini. The Elise will eat the turns for breakfast lunch and dinner, but the Lambo will win simply due to sheer force.

It's less to do with fanboyism and more an academic musing. I look forward to seeing what developers will be doing with the PS4 in four or five years. After all, look at what these studios were able to do with the PS3?

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#110 SecretPolice
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Yes, I hate those meeces to pieces. :P

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#111 tormentos
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@Floppy_Jim said:

Titanfall, Forza Horizon 2 and the MCC. Don't be hating the Bone, bro.

Non of those 4 games is an exclusive.lo

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Wow, Damage Control Thread!!!!!!!!!!

I give it a 1/10. The only reason it didn't get a zERo is I actually read half of the OP. No reason to go further.

This is a pro xbox one thread..hahaha

Apparently you read nothing..ahhaahaa Tigahman is a lemming..lol

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History has shown that if you need to hate any console, it should be the one from MS, simple as that. That's the company which will abandon you and teach everyone else to nickle/dime their customers in the process ;)

Isn't this one of the most asinine statements I've ever read on SWs. Bravo dude, you're right up there El Tormented.

Prove him wrong i dare you,that is the problem you talk shit but prove nothing.

MS abandon the xbox in just 4 years,nickel and dime was started by MS and their over price DLC,since the first horse armor for Oblivion which created wars all over the net,when the PS3 wasn't even here,the same happen with the GRAW map which where $15 and people complained now $15 is the norm..lol

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/03/download-oblivions-horse-armor-for-a-price/

Not only that they actually blocked 3rd parties from releasing free content even if they wanted to,like it happen with Left4 dead 2 content which was free on PC and $7 dollars on xbox 360.

Hiding Netflix,hulu,HBO go,even internet explorer under gold.? Yeah there are 2 version of MS the desperate one which will sell the console at rotten beef price when been owned (with a free hot new game) and the one when they are good enough like with the xbox 360.

@StormyJoe said:

Sunset Overdrive. And, while technically not "exclusive", the Halo: Master Chief Collection is a big deal.

But you say it your self is not exclusive.

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#112 tormentos
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

@pelvist said:

I am glad the XBOX One is in last place.

I'm glad there are no games on it and PSN is down every other day.

I still get great games and network being in last.

The xbox one has even less..hahahaaaaaaa

And lower rated ones to...

@2_Quiet_2_Riot said:

I'm willing to admit my limited knowledge on the tech side of things in gaming. But I know well enough how much irony there is in your arguments, especially you being a PC gamer.

Historically, PCs have and will always be superior to the closed platform environment of Consoles. And all that ramble about "PC developers to code to the strengths of hUMA, APUs, in the PC space, making the PS4 essentially a gaming laptop from a road map into the very near future now"...LOL....WTF? Why do you even care? You just said you have a gaming PC. PC technology have always evolved at the capacity faster than consoles. It seems you're sugar coating way too much on the PS4's capability, which is powerful, but no where near the power of a PC, or a PC, built 2-3 months from now.

You simply needed to admit is: "Hey, I'm a Cow...I love PS4 way way way better than X1 and even my PC, which I love to hide behind, because deep down I can't run the original Crysis in it!!!"

Build me a cheaper than PS4 or same price PC which can top the PS4..lol

And there is where your argument fall i have a R270 one with a cheap FX6350 and cost me over $600.

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#113 FoxbatAlpha
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@tormentos said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@pelvist said:

I am glad the XBOX One is in last place.

I'm glad there are no games on it and PSN is down every other day.

I still get great games and network being in last.

The xbox one has even less..hahahaaaaaaa

And lower rated ones to...

@2_Quiet_2_Riot said:

I'm willing to admit my limited knowledge on the tech side of things in gaming. But I know well enough how much irony there is in your arguments, especially you being a PC gamer.

Historically, PCs have and will always be superior to the closed platform environment of Consoles. And all that ramble about "PC developers to code to the strengths of hUMA, APUs, in the PC space, making the PS4 essentially a gaming laptop from a road map into the very near future now"...LOL....WTF? Why do you even care? You just said you have a gaming PC. PC technology have always evolved at the capacity faster than consoles. It seems you're sugar coating way too much on the PS4's capability, which is powerful, but no where near the power of a PC, or a PC, built 2-3 months from now.

You simply needed to admit is: "Hey, I'm a Cow...I love PS4 way way way better than X1 and even my PC, which I love to hide behind, because deep down I can't run the original Crysis in it!!!"

Build me a cheaper than PS4 or same price PC which can top the PS4..lol

And there is where your argument fall i have a R270 one with a cheap FX6350 and cost me over $600.

You can copy and paste all the meta scores you want. The overall consensus of people who own the systems is that the damn thing is a barren wasteland when it comes to games. Try reading the pleas of PS4 owners for once instead of concocting a story driven by mental illness.

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#115  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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#116 Alcapello
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Sony know the backlog of a hardcore gamer is filling up the mantel. It still essentially peppering the crowd with the competitions game while preparing a full on arsenal to attack the market come christmas and beyond.

Nobody really hate the xbox, it just that they probably hate the lemming.

Here,

looks at it like this, if there was no playstation, then xbone would be the console of choice clear cut winner at this point, but the reality is, second place competition is only the biggest loser.

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#117  Edited By pelvist
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@alcapello: Every gamer on the planet wants to thank their lucky stars that there is an alternative in the Playstation, lest Microsoft have their way with the console games industry. As for fanboys its always the most popular console that has the worst bunch and right now that is the Cows.

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#118 clone01
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I don't hate any inanimate piece of plastic. That's what fanboys with no life do.

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#119 Alcapello
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@pelvist said:

@alcapello: Every gamer on the planet wants to thank their lucky stars that there is an alternative in the Playstation, lest Microsoft have their way with the console games industry. As for fanboys its always the most popular console that has the worst bunch and right now that is the Cows.

Sound like you butthurt is reaching extreme level almost to the point of no delusion

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#120 Shewgenja
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@lamprey263 said:

I don't hate Xbox or MS. I was probably a bigger Xbox fanboy than anything else with the Xbox 360, and a much bigger Xbox fan through that generation as well. For now I'd say I'm more a Nintendo enthusiast as I've settled on a Wii U and 3DS while I let the market figure out where the Xbox One and PS4 are going. But I'll definitely say MS dropped the ball on the Xbox One in many areas. It's like they didn't have a grasp of what made their console popular, its strengths over the competition, the mistakes of their competition, or the things that gamers hate. And lately I feel that MS doesn't even have a grasp to utilize its resources on improving its situation. They wasted $2.5 billion on Minecraft, retained none of the figureheads and talent that made it, and all while the game has been ported every-which-way. I see no future in that move that pays off for the Xbox One. That's $2.5 billion that could have funded a substantial amount of well funded exclusives and really tilted things in their favor. Add whatever money they used to acquire Tomb Raider, and the billion they said they've put into XBO exclusive content thus far ($400 million of which went into a 5 year contract for an NFL fantasy football app), I worry this all will make investors and the company troubled with how things have played out, that their patience will grow thin with the gaming/Xbox division, and when they need to finally utilize their resources the proper way maybe the company might not be so forthcoming with the money when it matters.

This post wins the thread.

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#121  Edited By tormentos
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

You can copy and paste all the meta scores you want. The overall consensus of people who own the systems is that the damn thing is a barren wasteland when it comes to games. Try reading the pleas of PS4 owners for once instead of concocting a story driven by mental illness.

The over all consensus on LEMMING land is the xbox one has more games,on the real world were people get to chose what they want to buy without silly rules,the PS4 has more games higher rated and superior multiplatforms.

What games the xbox ones has that are not on any other platforms,yeah Kinect kinect kinect,3 games people with kinectless sku can't play,oh and SO which is about the only thing decent in the platform as FH2 can be play on 360.

So you see just like people see the best PS4 games can be play on PS3,they also see the xbox one best game this holiday can be play on 360.

So yeah you are butthurt and the xbox has even less game Facts are Facts..lol

@clone01 said:

I don't hate any inanimate piece of plastic. That's what fanboys with no life do.

Sure you don't that is the reason you choose and over priced weaker console over a PS4..hahaha

You are just one of those who post under an alter..hahahaha

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#122 pelvist
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@alcapello said:

@pelvist said:

@alcapello: Every gamer on the planet wants to thank their lucky stars that there is an alternative in the Playstation, lest Microsoft have their way with the console games industry. As for fanboys its always the most popular console that has the worst bunch and right now that is the Cows.

Sound like you butthurt is reaching extreme level almost to the point of no delusion

Yeah of course it does...

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#123 clone01
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@tormentos said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

You can copy and paste all the meta scores you want. The overall consensus of people who own the systems is that the damn thing is a barren wasteland when it comes to games. Try reading the pleas of PS4 owners for once instead of concocting a story driven by mental illness.

The over all consensus on LEMMING land is the xbox one has more games,on the real world were people get to chose what they want to buy without silly rules,the PS4 has more games higher rated and superior multiplatforms.

What games the xbox ones has that are not on any other platforms,yeah Kinect kinect kinect,3 games people with kinectless sku can't play,oh and SO which is about the only thing decent in the platform as FH2 can be play on 360.

So you see just like people see the best PS4 games can be play on PS3,they also see the xbox one best game this holiday can be play on 360.

So yeah you are butthurt and the xbox has even less game Facts are Facts..lol

@clone01 said:

I don't hate any inanimate piece of plastic. That's what fanboys with no life do.

Sure you don't that is the reason you choose and over priced weaker console over a PS4..hahaha

You are just one of those who post under an alter..hahahaha

Beer bottle lamp closet wastebasket SOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! el tormo.

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#124 tormentos
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@clone01 said:

Beer bottle lamp closet wastebasket SOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! el tormo.

You are a lemming and you always be clonney,you just post now under a different name just like William does as well..

Can't blame you after all the shit you argue pro 360..lol

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#125 clone01
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@tormentos said:

@clone01 said:

Beer bottle lamp closet wastebasket SOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! el tormo.

You are a lemming and you always be clonney,you just post now under a different name just like William does as well..

Can't blame you after all the shit you argue pro 360..lol

Cell phone disc drive cabinet door frame envelope. SOOOOONNNNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!! el tormo.

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@Tighaman: Nope I hate Microsoft for what they have done to the software industry and are trying to do with the gaming industry.

They are a bunch of cunts, does nobody remember MSN (not the messenger) they tried to run their own version of the internet and charge people for it. How fucking arrogant is that, then they try the DRM bullshit and their own Xbox Live network which you have to pay to access the fucking internet.

Their arrogance is their downfall, they have not changed in the last 20 years and people expect them to change now. I'm not even going to get into what they have done to the developers themselves of their studios.

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@ni6htmare01 said:

@Tighaman said:

@ni6htmare01: How you going to say that when most of those indies you are playing is already on PC ......at this moment I cant even play them because PSN is down as we speak cant play anyways

But I care about Infamous SS and I can't play that on PC or Xb1!

Then you should care about sunset overdrive since it plays very similarly to Infamous (only its better imo) and you can only play that on XB1.

For reference, i own both consoles, and both of those games.

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@Phazevariance said:

@ni6htmare01 said:

@Tighaman said:

@ni6htmare01: How you going to say that when most of those indies you are playing is already on PC ......at this moment I cant even play them because PSN is down as we speak cant play anyways

But I care about Infamous SS and I can't play that on PC or Xb1!

Then you should care about sunset overdrive since it plays very similarly to Infamous (only its better imo) and you can only play that on XB1.

For reference, i own both consoles, and both of those games.

I would have if it is not that cartoonly. Those kind of art style turn me off right a way! Kind of the same reason why I didn't want to get a WII-U

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#130 GrenadeLauncher
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@Tighaman said:

Are you willing to lack exclusives for a year and rely on multiplats when you can buy a console that has all the same games and great exclusives this year including one of the best FPS series ever?

Are you willing to pay for an online that's broken all of the time when you can buy a system with stable online with most games with online components.

Since Destiny came out more games coming out that's Online heavy COD, AC, GTA if the Online on your console cant handle the consoles that's out now whats going to happen in these holiday months? Do you hate xbox that much that you would pay for a less functional system?

Don't worry, the PS4 has as many exclusives as the Xbone does. PSN's been great for me too. :)

Kind of funny that the gimped cable box is the one that ends up the less functional, isn't it?

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#131 Lulu_Lulu
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@FastRobby

I don't hate them because os something did before I was born... I'm only 23.

I hate Microsoft because of the crap they are doing now. I don't know where you live but in many countries outside the US Microsoft is actually kinda shitty.

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#132 darkangel115
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@FastRobby

I don't hate them because os something did before I was born... I'm only 23.

I hate Microsoft because of the crap they are doing now. I don't know where you live but in many countries outside the US Microsoft is actually kinda shitty.

well in all fairness, many countries outside the US, hate the US in general and everything that comes from it.

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#133  Edited By Ten_Pints
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@darkangel115 said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@FastRobby

I don't hate them because os something did before I was born... I'm only 23.

I hate Microsoft because of the crap they are doing now. I don't know where you live but in many countries outside the US Microsoft is actually kinda shitty.

well in all fairness, many countries outside the US, hate the US in general and everything that comes from it.

Well for me at least I like US stuff, I can't speak for the whole of the UK but we have a lot in common in language and culture. If i had the choice between something made in China and something made in the US I would chose the US every time (assuming it was competitive).

No Microsoft is just a shitty company that tries to win market share by throwing money everywhere and giving their customers a bad deal.

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#135 AzatiS
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@Tighaman: Why to hate something. I dont get it. I just dont care about it , thats all. None of its exclusives i found attractive enough to excuse its price , let alone its hardware ... I dont like the fact that Microsoft , like Nintendo , stop supporting their consoles with major exclusives on some point years before next gen ...

I just dont care if they sale 1B consoles or 1 or if they get HALO 204325. I just dont !

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#136 Lulu_Lulu
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@FastRobby

They Region locked digital titles.

Seems like they did the samething in Belgium too, visit The US version of Xbox.com and you'l have a much better idea of what I mean.

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#138 cantloginnow
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Yup.PS4 is lagging far behind the competition when it comes to games.Bu Bu the ps4 has more...nobody cares they want good games,not alot of games they dont want to play.

Accept it Cows,youre bored with your console.

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#139 darkangel115
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@ten_pints said:
@darkangel115 said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

@FastRobby

I don't hate them because os something did before I was born... I'm only 23.

I hate Microsoft because of the crap they are doing now. I don't know where you live but in many countries outside the US Microsoft is actually kinda shitty.

well in all fairness, many countries outside the US, hate the US in general and everything that comes from it.

Well for me at least I like US stuff, I can't speak for the whole of the UK but we have a lot in common in language and culture. If i had the choice between something made in China and something made in the US I would chose the US every time (assuming it was competitive).

No Microsoft is just a shitty company that tries to win market share by throwing money everywhere and giving their customers a bad deal.

well for my friends in the UK, they tell me people there don't really go for brand or location that its all about their perceived value. they basically buy the best value for the most part, but still alot of people there do hate america and think were all fat red necks who listen to country music and drive huge trucks. But most countries out of the US and UK seem to hate anything american.

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#140 Lulu_Lulu
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You pretty much confirmed that there is a problem. The Gift Cards are Region Locked too. I think this happened when they started using local currency.

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#143 Lulu_Lulu
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Everyone wanted a better system. They weren't bothered by the currency so much as they were bothered by the fact the point cards don't line up with items in the market place. You couldn't just buy one thing and expect not to have points left over.

No we still have that same problem plus the added layer of not being able to use different cards in different regions.

That plus some games are only available digitally, so supermarkets can't help there.

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#144 Lulu_Lulu
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@FastRobby

Everyone wanted a better system. They weren't bothered by the currency so much as they were bothered by the fact the point cards don't line up with items in the market place. You couldn't just buy one thing and expect not to have points left over.

No we still have that same problem plus the added layer of not being able to use different cards in different regions.

That plus some games are only available digitally, so supermarkets can't help there.

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#146 Lulu_Lulu
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I don't even know what you're talking about. I just want everything available on XBL US to be available everywhere. Its digital and I can already access by changing my account so whats with all the unnecessary red tape ?

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#148  Edited By kinectthedots
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@FastRobby said:

@kinectthedots said:

@Lulu_Lulu said:

Its not the Box thats the problem... Its the piece of shit company behind it.... I hate Microsoft, not their toys.

I was going to say this before entering this thread but upon seeing his OP I decided to address his argument head on. He was using such faulty logic in his argument that I felt it needed to be touched on.

But the basic idea about hating "xbox" is flawed and it's not as if there aren't obvious reasons why people wouldn't want to buy a system lead by a company who has the history of the acts that MS seems committed to.

Only SERVER backlash has changed MS's course but it's not like everyone is just going to forget and welcome them with open arms because of what they are forced to do...and that is even before taking into account the drawbacks of buying their system compared to the others available.

Hating a company... Can it get more ridiculous? I haven't seen 1 bad thing since CEO shift for Microsoft, and nothing bad Xbox division did since Phil Spencer is leading it. So you are going to keep looking back at the 90's and saying Microsoft as a whole is hate-able? You don't see the company getting rid of their bad name and only trying to do good stuff?

"looking back in the 90's"? Umm it's more like November 2013 bud.

That is something a lemming would say, just forget everything they did and tried to do and give your full unwavering support because...well you don't really have a GOOD reason to ask anyone to buy your beloved system (same as TC using half-truths and fabricated info) that has virtually no benefits unless you are a halo fanatic.

Yea, I do hate what MS did to the console industry. MS's greed is a poison that has infected the entire industry (how I miss free online), I just thank the heavens that Sony was there for gamers to have an opportunity to give MS the finger when they finally came out with that BS spyware/nickle-n-dime scheme at the beginning of this generation.

Someone who doesn't use their brain can not appreciate the significance of what ALMOST happened. If they succeeded every other company would have followed. You support all of that, you endorse all of that and tell people it's OK since it didn't happen. That's like playing with a venomous snake and saying it's ok to keep playing with it because the time it almost bit you someone else stopped it. I would rather not play with something that wants to bit and kill me.

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#149 Shewgenja
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I liken MSes original DRM to having a friend in highschool who tried to boink your girlfriend.

Sure, maybe it didn't happen and certainly you've gone on to college and got with another girl. Maybe he even apologized for trying to put his pee-pee in your ex over drinks one night. But you still never truly trust the motherfucker and if you do, you are a fucking twat.

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#150  Edited By Shewgenja
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Only, it really is worse. Because rather than the friend apologize to you for seeing your girlfriend as little more than a cum dumpster, he has the audacity to tell you he just didn't go about it the right way. The messaging was wrong. Perhaps you just weren't ready for your relationship to be open. It's your fault for being possessive, even. The problem is your feeble mind couldn't grasp how much better it would be if you would have just let him..

It really is kind of like that. That is literally the level of douchebaggery System Wars is inundated with by the lemmings day in and day out. They are sticking up for that guy.