Do you take SW seriously???

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#1 rocktimusprime
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I mean lets think about this....

Do you use SW as a way to learn anything about the industry and the console wars or do you just post for fun, and enjoy the debate format of this forum?

I am just wondering because it seems like one group loves the fun of SW, where you can chat about gaming and systems, and say some outrageous things, make crazy predictions, and relish in the misery of others.

The other want it to be like CNN with Wolf Blitzer moderating, abolishing fun, and phrases like TCHBO!, and taking away what System Wars was, and making it into a coffee house where we all have sticks up our you know what.

Personally I don't take anything seriously on SW. It expect there to little to no valueble debate, and regardless of what you do to moderate or change how people act, fanboyism reigns supreme. I find it more fun when people are a little more hands off and just allow people to make fools of themselves, rather than have someone step in every five posts to remind me that I just may be trolling by pointing out an obvious troll....

It's fun to get sucked into the rumours produced by www.ps3botswania.com and other small sites that produce crazy rumours to garner hits. Its fun to watch the major fanboys do battle in epic threads, full of win and fail. Its fun to hype a game, and enjoy the wait, anxiously hoping for your predicted score. Hell even place bets on them, and endure the consequences if you lose.

SW is FUN. Or it was. I just think some people think are confused. The Forum is called System Wars.

So why do some people want to change it into "The McLaughlin group debates sales trends of three major entertainment companies."

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i just get on here for news, people want to own other people so bad they post articles as soon as they are released :)
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#3 rocktimusprime
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i just get on here for news, people want to own other people so bad they post articles as soon as they are released :)-platy-

and its fun! but with some of the new proposed SW rules, that would not happen anymore and you would be moderated for laughing at them

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#4 Richard-Simmons
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No... I just love seeing the fanboys argue.... :lol:.... They look so retarded :lol:
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#5 SuperMario_46
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No
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#6 rocktimusprime
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im see a consensus of no.

so where are all the cry babies who beg for more moderation and rules that ruin our community and forum when it seems nobody really takes this place seriously?

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#7 Dasacant
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Not at all.
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#8 Saturos3091
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No, although I think it can be taken seriously. I wouldn't mind some serious topics. I prefer a mixture though, if all the trolls/fakeboys were gone SW wouldn't be as fun.
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#9 EPaul
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Not in the slightest
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#10 expanded
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i like a little bit of column A and a little bit of column B

:) and besides if it was all fun then ALL jokes should be taken as jokes

like if i burn my school down :o and say :oops: joke! :D
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#11 TalesofRaGnArOk
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no, I go to Kotaku for news, because it does it much better, besides destructiod.

I go here to see how badly people can screw up

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#12 Dream-Bringer
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No but apparently you do with that essay :P lol I'm here for 3 reasons: DMC4, MGS4, SCIV. Ofcourse than fanboys are funnay.
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#13 rocktimusprime
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No, although I think it can be taken seriously. I wouldn't mind some serious topics. I prefer a mixture though, if all the trolls/fakeboys were gone SW wouldn't be as fun.Saturos3091

yeap, we'd be the McLaughlin group then.

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#14 rocktimusprime
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No but apparently you do with that essay :P lol I'm here for 3 reasons: DMC4, MGS4, SCIV. Ofcourse than fanboys are funnay.Dream-Bringer

lol :) i just think all the fun of SW is being sucked away and I guess I take it seriously enough to not watch it go away :)

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#15 PBSnipes
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Assuming you're referring to Subrosian's recommendations for SW, the idea isn't to create the Mclaughlin Group but to take SW back to the good old days where it was about having fun, not who has the most exclusives or highest sales or what game flopped. Maybe you weren't here back then, but things are far more serious and regulated these days. These days we have to deal with all sorts of fakeboys, ban dodgers, alt-accounts, and people are out making bets that if they lose, they are forced to leave SW fora significant period of time. How is that fun? How many more "Teh Wii is Kiddy" or "Teh 360 breaks" or "Teh PS3 has no games" or "Teh PC is expensive" threads do we need? Maybe you're a fan of those but some of us are getting tired of the same old rehashed topics and arguements.

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#16 rocktimusprime
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Assuming you're referring to Subrosian's recommendations for SW, the idea isn't to create the Mclaughlin Group but to take SW back to the good old days where it was about having fun, not who has the most exclusives or highest sales or what game flopped. Maybe you weren't here back then, but things are far more serious and regulated these days. These days we have to deal with all sorts of fakeboys, ban dodgers, alt-accounts, and people are out making bets that if they lose, they are forced to leave SW fora significant period of time. How is that fun? How many more "Teh Wii is Kiddy" or "Teh 360 breaks" or "Teh PS3 has no games" or "Teh PC is expensive" threads do we need? Maybe you're a fan of those but some of us are getting tired of the same old rehashed topics and arguements.

PBSnipes

you just complained about SW being more moderated, but then listed why you want it more moderated....

I highly doubt there weren't trolls, fakeboys or numerous threads calling nintendo kiddy or TEH PS2 BRAKES DRE FTL all the time..............

plus people make bets on thier own free will....nobody forces you to do anything, and your not forced to honor your word, its just proving that you have a pair and can live up to your word, something all these fanboys you hate so much wont do and proves why you shouldnt take them seriously :)

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#17 rocktimusprime
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so the Some i.e. few of you is greater than the majority of people just enjoy the forum and already have fun?

lame

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#18 PBSnipes
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Assuming you're referring to Subrosian's recommendations for SW, the idea isn't to create the Mclaughlin Group but to take SW back to the good old days where it was about having fun, not who has the most exclusives or highest sales or what game flopped. Maybe you weren't here back then, but things are far more serious and regulated these days. These days we have to deal with all sorts of fakeboys, ban dodgers, alt-accounts, and people are out making bets that if they lose, they are forced to leave SW fora significant period of time. How is that fun? How many more "Teh Wii is Kiddy" or "Teh 360 breaks" or "Teh PS3 has no games" or "Teh PC is expensive" threads do we need? Maybe you're a fan of those but some of us are getting tired of the same old rehashed topics and arguements.

rocktimusprime

you just complained about SW being more moderated, but then listed why you want it more moderated....

I highly doubt there weren't trolls, fakeboys or numerous threads calling nintendo kiddy or TEH PS2 BRAKES DRE FTL all the time..............

There were topics like "TEH PS2 BREAKS DRE FTL" but they weren't rehashed day-in day-out. And while yes there were fakeboys (after a while, they had to be "invented" first) thats why there is the proposed level 10 requirement. If you look most of the rehashed threads are made by low level, low post count users who are more likely than not ban dodging or other GS users using alt accounts.

The idea is to move towards less moderation. Now there would probably be some growing pains as users learned the new rules and guidelines but after a while SW as a whole would benefit. We wouldn't have to deal with the same-old rehashed threads, or multiple threads discussing the exact same thing taking up the first page. And honestly these changes likely wouldn't have a huge effect on the day-to-day runnings of SW other than less fakeboys, less trolling and fewer rehashed threads.

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#20 rocktimusprime
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i really dont see how by making new rules is moving toward LESS moderation....

its like saying were going to raise taxes to save you money....

i also fail to see how removing Hyping games, and the ownage that ensues is so bad. I mean I guess back in old SW they never owned ANYONE, they just sat around and went "oh mario sunshine flopped, well thats too bad sheep, better luck next time."

if you are so tired of threads, just goto another forum, there are tons of them for just gaming. why do you need to be in SW if you hate it so much and can't enjoy it anymore, so much so you want to change it so drastically?

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#21 PBSnipes
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i really dont see how by making new rules is moving toward LESS moderation....

its like saying were going to raise taxes to save you money....

i also fail to see how removing Hyping games, and the ownage that ensues is so bad. I mean I guess back in old SW they never owned ANYONE, they just sat around and went "oh mario sunshine flopped, well thats too bad sheep, better luck next time."

if you are so tired of threads, just goto another forum, there are tons of them for just gaming. why do you need to be in SW if you hate it so much and can't enjoy it anymore, so much so you want to change it so drastically?

rocktimusprime

Again, you've missed the point. The idea isn't for SW to be one big happy family where all we do is sit aroun singing Kum-By-Yah, the idea is to remove the assinine comments like "OMG Game X Flopzzors LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!". This is especially important considering the credibility of reviews these days is hovering somewhere below jack ****. Rather than being a game someone can "win", SW should be about quasi-intelligent debate and information. That doesn't mean we're going to sit around like a bunch of 19th century economists smoking pipes, drinking port and discussing the market, but it means we won't have to deal with god knows how many rehashed topics and posts.

And BTW, you can save money by raising taxes.

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#22 TacoJelly
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I use SW to kill time and be unproductive.

I like to just come in and see stupid people get "pwned"

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#23 782hampshire
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i come here because i like to read people argue for hour and hours and hours. it entertains me. i just pot here when i read something very idiotic and stupid.
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#24 rocktimusprime
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[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

i really dont see how by making new rules is moving toward LESS moderation....

its like saying were going to raise taxes to save you money....

i also fail to see how removing Hyping games, and the ownage that ensues is so bad. I mean I guess back in old SW they never owned ANYONE, they just sat around and went "oh mario sunshine flopped, well thats too bad sheep, better luck next time."

if you are so tired of threads, just goto another forum, there are tons of them for just gaming. why do you need to be in SW if you hate it so much and can't enjoy it anymore, so much so you want to change it so drastically?

PBSnipes

Again, you've missed the point. The idea isn't for SW to be one big happy family where all we do is sit aroun singing Kum-By-Yah, the idea is to remove the assinine comments like "OMG Game X Flopzzors LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!". This is especially important considering the credibility of reviews these days is hovering somewhere below jack ****. Rather than being a game someone can "win", SW should be about quasi-intelligent debate and information. That doesn't mean we're going to sit around like a bunch of 19th century economists smoking pipes, drinking port and discussing the market, but it means we won't have to deal with god knows how many rehashed topics and posts.

And BTW, you can save money by raising taxes.

Sounds more like you dis-like SW so much that YOU want it change, while I see a majority of posters who come each day and enjoy this forum for what it is.

It seems like everyone around here has fun and enjoys SW as it is, except your and a few others. If you don't like the redudant threads, ignore them, you know you DONT have to post in them......

So once again....a few people's dislike = everyone else's dismay.

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The mods have gone a bit crazy on SW. We have ads sponsored by Patron, an alcoholic beverage for those 21 and up, yet we must conduct ourselves like everyone here is a 4 year old. Saying that something is stupid will get you moderated. Saying, "go kill yourself" or "jump off a bridge" will get you modded for suggesting a member cause himself bodily harm or injury. It'll probably get you banned. Using the word "cow" can get you banned. Its crazy. The whole concept behind system wars seems like it should be a crazy forum that should be lax on moderation unless someone just cause on a profanity spree and starts posting porn and children being molested or something thats serious.

The finger wagging and, "he called me a mean name" needs to go. But i'm simply a mere gamer.

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#26 rocktimusprime
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The mods have gone a bit crazy on SW. We have ads sponsored by Patron, an alcoholic beverage for those 21 and up, yet we must conduct ourselves like everyone here is a 4 year old. Saying that something is stupid will get you moderated. Saying, "go kill yourself" or "jump off a bridge" will get you modded for suggesting a member cause himself bodily harm or injury. It'll probably get you banned. Using the word "cow" can get you banned. Its crazy. The whole concept behind system wars seems like it should be a crazy forum that should be lax on moderation unless someone just cause on a profanity spree and starts posting porn and children being molested or something thats serious.

The finger wagging and, "he called me a mean name" needs to go. But i'm simply a mere gamer.

Senor_Kami

yeah and apperantly if your Sub or PBSnipes, you can whine and get what you want because nobody else matters

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hell no, but like most everyone i always get sucked in by a fanboy bent on getting people mad
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#28 bri360
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I just go here for a fun debate and to chat about games. Also its good to find out about news on basically anything around games since its posted almost immediately after release lol.
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The mods have gone a bit crazy on SW. We have ads sponsored by Patron, an alcoholic beverage for those 21 and up, yet we must conduct ourselves like everyone here is a 4 year old. Saying that something is stupid will get you moderated. Saying, "go kill yourself" or "jump off a bridge" will get you modded for suggesting a member cause himself bodily harm or injury. It'll probably get you banned. Using the word "cow" can get you banned. Its crazy. The whole concept behind system wars seems like it should be a crazy forum that should be lax on moderation unless someone just cause on a profanity spree and starts posting porn and children being molested or something thats serious.

The finger wagging and, "he called me a mean name" needs to go. But i'm simply a mere gamer.

Senor_Kami

lol I kind of agree with you on this one. A few years back in "the golden age" of SW, it was so much better, the mods were alot less strict and frequently joined in discussion and you didn't have to talk like everyone is 4 lol. Like for example I remember you used to be able to put the first letter in a swear but just recently I got a warning for doing just that. I was really surprised because ppl here always, well used to always just bleep out the other letters, just not the first so older ages can still tell what you are trying to say. Its not as fun as it used to be here. I guess this site is to big and commercialized to have the forums like they used to be now though. Dont get me wrong though, I still enjoy SW, Its just not like it was back then.

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#30 rocktimusprime
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i suggest that everything goes except tubgirl and the like....
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[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Assuming you're referring to Subrosian's recommendations for SW, the idea isn't to create the Mclaughlin Group but to take SW back to the good old days where it was about having fun, not who has the most exclusives or highest sales or what game flopped. Maybe you weren't here back then, but things are far more serious and regulated these days. These days we have to deal with all sorts of fakeboys, ban dodgers, alt-accounts, and people are out making bets that if they lose, they are forced to leave SW fora significant period of time. How is that fun? How many more "Teh Wii is Kiddy" or "Teh 360 breaks" or "Teh PS3 has no games" or "Teh PC is expensive" threads do we need? Maybe you're a fan of those but some of us are getting tired of the same old rehashed topics and arguements.

PBSnipes

you just complained about SW being more moderated, but then listed why you want it more moderated....

I highly doubt there weren't trolls, fakeboys or numerous threads calling nintendo kiddy or TEH PS2 BRAKES DRE FTL all the time..............

There were topics like "TEH PS2 BREAKS DRE FTL" but they weren't rehashed day-in day-out. And while yes there were fakeboys (after a while, they had to be "invented" first) thats why there is the proposed level 10 requirement. If you look most of the rehashed threads are made by low level, low post count users who are more likely than not ban dodging or other GS users using alt accounts.

The idea is to move towards less moderation. Now there would probably be some growing pains as users learned the new rules and guidelines but after a while SW as a whole would benefit. We wouldn't have to deal with the same-old rehashed threads, or multiple threads discussing the exact same thing taking up the first page. And honestly these changes likely wouldn't have a huge effect on the day-to-day runnings of SW other than less fakeboys, less trolling and fewer rehashed threads.

I agree with you when it comes to seeing these rehashed threads of 360s breaking, Wii being kiddy and PS3 having no games, also threads like ''TehBlu-Ray iz teh coolz'' or ''360z ownz teh 08''. They can get old, I give you that.

But turning SW into a dictatorship FULL of seriousness and just posting to a certain limit because you don't want to be modded? No, THAT I don't agree with.

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#32 rocktimusprime
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

Assuming you're referring to Subrosian's recommendations for SW, the idea isn't to create the Mclaughlin Group but to take SW back to the good old days where it was about having fun, not who has the most exclusives or highest sales or what game flopped. Maybe you weren't here back then, but things are far more serious and regulated these days. These days we have to deal with all sorts of fakeboys, ban dodgers, alt-accounts, and people are out making bets that if they lose, they are forced to leave SW fora significant period of time. How is that fun? How many more "Teh Wii is Kiddy" or "Teh 360 breaks" or "Teh PS3 has no games" or "Teh PC is expensive" threads do we need? Maybe you're a fan of those but some of us are getting tired of the same old rehashed topics and arguements.

DeadMan1290

you just complained about SW being more moderated, but then listed why you want it more moderated....

I highly doubt there weren't trolls, fakeboys or numerous threads calling nintendo kiddy or TEH PS2 BRAKES DRE FTL all the time..............

There were topics like "TEH PS2 BREAKS DRE FTL" but they weren't rehashed day-in day-out. And while yes there were fakeboys (after a while, they had to be "invented" first) thats why there is the proposed level 10 requirement. If you look most of the rehashed threads are made by low level, low post count users who are more likely than not ban dodging or other GS users using alt accounts.

The idea is to move towards less moderation. Now there would probably be some growing pains as users learned the new rules and guidelines but after a while SW as a whole would benefit. We wouldn't have to deal with the same-old rehashed threads, or multiple threads discussing the exact same thing taking up the first page. And honestly these changes likely wouldn't have a huge effect on the day-to-day runnings of SW other than less fakeboys, less trolling and fewer rehashed threads.

I agree with you when it comes to seeing these rehashed threads of 360s breaking, Wii being kiddy and PS3 having no games, also threads like ''TehBlu-Ray iz teh coolz'' or ''360z ownz teh 08''. They can get old, I give you that.

But turning SW into a dictatorship FULL of seriousness and just posting to a certain limit because you don't want to be modded? No, THAT I don't agree with.

I think its agreeable that some threads are over done but you can't say no more this thead or else ban...thats just way to far....

you can't limit what people can make threads on as long as the pertain to SW, no matter how old and rehased it has been done.

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#33 PBSnipes
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I agree with you when it comes to seeing these rehashed threads of 360s breaking, Wii being kiddy and PS3 having no games, also threads like ''TehBlu-Ray iz teh coolz'' or ''360z ownz teh 08''. They can get old, I give you that.

But turning SW into a dictatorship FULL of seriousness and just posting to a certain limit because you don't want to be modded? No, THAT I don't agree with.

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Who said anything about a "dictatorship FULL of seriousness"?
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#34 rocktimusprime
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

I agree with you when it comes to seeing these rehashed threads of 360s breaking, Wii being kiddy and PS3 having no games, also threads like ''TehBlu-Ray iz teh coolz'' or ''360z ownz teh 08''. They can get old, I give you that.

But turning SW into a dictatorship FULL of seriousness and just posting to a certain limit because you don't want to be modded? No, THAT I don't agree with.

PBSnipes

Who said anything about a "dictatorship FULL of seriousness"?

New rules certaintly seem that way.

Plus how will getting level 10 prevent RROD threads and Blu Ray threads?

And why should a forum be limited to users who signed up and gave thier information to a company for the reason to use the forums.

SW is not some sort of cool table that you have to be invited to.

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#37 2scoopsofempty
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i come here for news and to watch people argue. somtimes if i feel like it ill start one just to get the enjoyment of watchingsome little **** defending his wii, PS3, or x360.... :D

all in all its all good fun and we all are here cuz we have a common interest. Video Gaming.

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#38 CommanderTy
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hahahha no just a bunch of fanboys and a handful of gamers like myself on SW and plus its fun to see how many times you get threads of a fanboy bahsing other systems and games i just like to piss them off here and there
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#39 PBSnipes
Member since 2007 • 14621 Posts
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

I agree with you when it comes to seeing these rehashed threads of 360s breaking, Wii being kiddy and PS3 having no games, also threads like ''TehBlu-Ray iz teh coolz'' or ''360z ownz teh 08''. They can get old, I give you that.

But turning SW into a dictatorship FULL of seriousness and just posting to a certain limit because you don't want to be modded? No, THAT I don't agree with.

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Who said anything about a "dictatorship FULL of seriousness"?

New rules certaintly seem that way.

Plus how will getting level 10 prevent RROD threads and Blu Ray threads?

And why should a forum be limited to users who signed up and gave thier information to a company for the reason to use the forums.

SW is not some sort of cool table that you have to be invited to.

Again the point isn't to remove debate. The point isn't to remove threads about reliability issues or whether or not BR is necessary, but to remove the useless, pointless threads. The ones that attract comments like "don't feed the trolls" or "/fanboy rant" or anything like that.

You seem to be under the impression the various proposed rule changes are going to mean a huge change to SW. They won't. They'll trim away the "fat" of fakeboys, trolls and alts and leave only the "white meat" of SW.

I don't know where you got "And why should a forum be limited to users who signed up and gave thier information to a company for the reason to use the forums". The idea would be to have a minimum level or post count for SW to avoid alts and fakeboys. Level 10 was suggested because it's easy to reach for any user who plans on contributing something meaningful to GS, so its not like SW would become some elitist paradise.

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#40 rolo107
Member since 2007 • 5469 Posts
If this place wasn't moderated as much I wouldn't be here... It'd ruin it for me.... I also use this to find out news, etc.
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#41 The_AI
Member since 2006 • 4791 Posts
I don't take SW seriously at all. It's not a serious forum. People who want to make it serious should start another board.
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#42 teufelherz
Member since 2004 • 1315 Posts
Are you kidding me? SW is what I base every decision in life on!!! Now seriously, nope, not at all. It's still so much fun I just have to keep coming back
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#43 Pangster007
Member since 2004 • 4426 Posts

Dead Serious. :|

Everyone knows teh internets is serious business.

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#44 krunkfu2
Member since 2007 • 4218 Posts

who doesn't?

it's called SERIOUS wars isn't it?

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#45 Acemaster27
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Who goes here for seriousness?

You learn a lot about what is happening all over the industry, but thats just a side effect.

Oh yeah, I talked to sony on the phone yesterday and they said they might not continue making PS3s.

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#46 Unforgiven2870
Member since 2004 • 6386 Posts

Who goes here for seriousness?

You learn a lot about what is happening all over the industry, but thats just a side effect.

Oh yeah, I talked to sony on the phone yesterday and they said they might not continue making PS3s.

Acemaster27
Now thats a fine example of what people are talking about when it comes to SW.I don't take it seriously as others do but certian disscussions sometimes you have to get a little serious.