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#1 UnrealSin_X
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And why or why not?
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#2 SolidTy
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Yes, because it was supposed to help with Next Gen costs. Somewhere along the line, Next Gen became Current gen and we're still paying...:(

Oh well, at least it isn't as expensive as the NES/SNES/N64 days.

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#3 thrones
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Yes, ruddy microsoft. Yeah, I'm blaming them as they did it first and proved that consumers would accept it.
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#4 locopatho
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Yeah I don't pay full price for most of my games. GTA4 was the last one. I usually wait for the 30 euro or so price point if possible.
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Yes, ruddy microsoft. Yeah, I'm blaming them as they did it first and proved that consumers would accept it.thrones

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts and Viva Pinata 2 will be $40! Btw, 360 1st party launch games and Rare games were $50.

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[QUOTE="thrones"]Yes, ruddy microsoft. Yeah, I'm blaming them as they did it first and proved that consumers would accept it.BioShockOwnz

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts and Viva Pinata 2 will be $40! Btw, 360 1st party launch games and Rare games were $50.

No.... launch titles were all £45 RRP same as now, and Bajo Kazooie and Viva Pinata 2 are also set at £45 RRP.

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Yes, ruddy microsoft. Yeah, I'm blaming them as they did it first and proved that consumers would accept it.thrones

Before PS3 or 360 were even launched, there were rumors of games being $60. And PS3 games were rumored at $70-80, remember? I don't think that Sony would have had a lower price for games had it launched PS3 before the 360.

Either way, we were facing $60 games this gen.

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Yes, because it was supposed to help with Next Gen costs. Somewhere along the line, Next Gen became Current gen and we're still paying...:(

Oh well, at least it isn't as expensive as the NES/SNES/N64 days.

SolidTy

How much were NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64 games? I started gaming on March 20, 1998 with a Nintendo 64, but I rarely bought games with my own money, so I don't remember the exact prices. I do remember buying Glover, which sucked horribly, for, like, sixty-nine dollars or something. Maybe in the seventy range. I just remember it was damn expensive, and I spent all my hard-earned money on it, and it sucked. Hard. (That's what she said). My freaking ball would always pop and it was overly difficult for me, as I was a little kid.

Sorry for that rant. I realize I got off topic a bit. Anyway, how much were they again? I'm assuming because they were catridges. Did the PS1, Genesis, Saturn, DreamCast, and etcetera games cost less by any chance?

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#9 locopatho
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Actually that's another reason I like Nintendo. Most new 360/PS3 games are 60 - 70 euro. Nintendo ones are 45. Galaxy, Brawl, Paper Mario, all 45. It's pretty sweet!
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#10 thrones
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Yes, because it was supposed to help with Next Gen costs. Somewhere along the line, Next Gen became Current gen and we're still paying...:(

Oh well, at least it isn't as expensive as the NES/SNES/N64 days.

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How much were NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64 games? I started gaming on March 20, 1998 with a Nintendo 64, but I rarely bought games with my own money, so I don't remember the exact prices. I do remember buying Glover, which sucked horribly, for, like, sixty-nine dollars or something. Maybe in the seventy range. I just remember it was damn expensive, and I spent all my hard-earned money on it, and it sucked. Hard. (That's what she said). My freaking ball would always pop and it was overly difficult for me, as I was a little kid.

Sorry for that rant. I realize I got off topic a bit. Anyway, how much were they again? I'm assuming because they were catridges. Did the PS1 games cost less by any chance?

Cartridges costed far too much imo.
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Actually that's another reason I like Nintendo. Most new 360/PS3 games are 60 - 70 euro. Nintendo ones are 45. Galaxy, Brawl, Paper Mario, all 45. It's pretty sweet!locopatho

Yeah, I don't own a PS3 or 360 this generation, and only own a Wii. So ha, ha, ha! I get to save quite a bit of money.

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From a Fortune article, EA CEO John Riccitiello had this to say about the free to play business model and how it will affect traditional retail games. Check it out

Riccitiello says the $31 billion gaming industry will suffer if it doesn't start to reevaluate its business model. Game executives at Sony (SNE), Microsoft (MSFT) and Activision (ATVI) must answer some tough questions in the coming years, like how long they can expect consumers to pay $59 for a video game. Riccitiello predicts the model will be obsolete in the next decade. [Ed: emphasis mine]

"In the next five years, we're all going to have to deal with this. In China, they're giving games away for free," he says. "People who benefit from the current model will need to embrace a new revenue model, or wait for others to disrupt." As more publishers transition to making games for online distribution, Riccitiello says he expects EA will experiment with different pricing models.

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#13 dracula_16
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Yes it is. It's annoying when someone says "dont make opinions until yuo plaey teh gaem for yurself!" ..well.....I would if they didn't cost so much. That's the reason why I look at gamerankings so much.
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#14 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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I'm a pc gamer and I pay $50 max for a game because I don't see a point in paying more for my platform of choice since it doesn't have the costs of development that a console does.
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Actually that's another reason I like Nintendo. Most new 360/PS3 games are 60 - 70 euro. Nintendo ones are 45. Galaxy, Brawl, Paper Mario, all 45. It's pretty sweet!locopatho

Europeans get screwed when it comes to consumer electronics, you are probably better off importing from America these days, if the shipping is reasonable.

Right now $60 (brand new games) is about 38 euros. So you are paying almost twice as much for games in Europe.

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From a Fortune article, EA CEO John Riccitiello had this to say about the free to play business model and how it will affect traditional retail games. Check it out

Riccitiello says the $31 billion gaming industry will suffer if it doesn't start to reevaluate its business model. Game executives at Sony (SNE), Microsoft (MSFT) and Activision (ATVI) must answer some tough questions in the coming years, like how long they can expect consumers to pay $59 for a video game. Riccitiello predicts the model will be obsolete in the next decade. [Ed: emphasis mine]

"In the next five years, we're all going to have to deal with this. In China, they're giving games away for free," he says. "People who benefit from the current model will need to embrace a new revenue model, or wait for others to disrupt." As more publishers transition to making games for online distribution, Riccitiello says he expects EA will experiment with different pricing models.

Blue-Sky

I don't think Take2 or Microsoft is unhappy with Halo 3 and GTA4 sales heh, nobody had any issues payin $60 for those.

Games are selling better than ever if you take attach rate into account.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"]Actually that's another reason I like Nintendo. Most new 360/PS3 games are 60 - 70 euro. Nintendo ones are 45. Galaxy, Brawl, Paper Mario, all 45. It's pretty sweet!ViolentPressure

Europeans get screwed when it comes to consumer electronics, you are probably better off importing from America these days, if the shipping is reasonable.

Right now $60 (brand new games) is about 38 euros. So you are paying almost twice as much for games in Europe.

O yeah well aware I'm being screwed by all the companies :P

Nintendo just screw me less :)

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Yes.
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#19 deactivated-57a12126af02c
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Yes

The only games I buy new at full price were MGS 4 LE, Madden, COD4, GEars.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="thrones"]Yes, ruddy microsoft. Yeah, I'm blaming them as they did it first and proved that consumers would accept it.thrones

Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts and Viva Pinata 2 will be $40! Btw, 360 1st party launch games and Rare games were $50.

No.... launch titles were all £45 RRP same as now, and Bajo Kazooie and Viva Pinata 2 are also set at £45 RRP.

Links.

Wow, Europe gets a raw deal. All 1st party games were $49.99 at launch in the US.

And... someone linked the Banjo and VP 2 prices the other day.

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YES...because it takes no more to make them now then it did 5 years ago..Not matter what they try and feed us..
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#22 HarlockJC
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Yes...I buy few new games because of it. Expect Nintendo games which never go down in cost I normally wait until a game is between $20-$30 before I pick it up. There is a few others that I buy no matter what like MGS and DDR.
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Yes, ruddy microsoft. Yeah, I'm blaming them as they did it first and proved that consumers would accept it.thrones
console games have been this expensive since the dawn of history:|

I remember paying even more for Zelda OoT back then

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#24 Juggernaut140
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Yeah it's way too much. Why did they have to raise the price?
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#25 beast667
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I guess, could be worse though. I guess the cartridge days will always seem worse to me. An 8 year old trying to scrap together enough cash to buy a N64 game near launch was like kids trying to find a nickel for a new baseball back in the 30's.
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$12 a game is too expensive
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Yeah I don't pay full price for most of my games. GTA4 was the last one. I usually wait for the 30 euro or so price point if possible.locopatho

Same.

In Australia, games go half price only a few months after release...

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#28 lucidflux
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I don't think it is. The heavy hitters have movie-like production for hours and hours. If I'm paying $10 to see a two-hour movie, $60 for a 20-hour game seems quite fair.
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Yes, most games are not worth $60 but every now and then a game comes out that is worth $60 or more.
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Lol, look at all the guys that don't remember Street Fighter on SNES was $70 and the Donkey kong game on N64 that was $80.

There more than just those two but I think you get the point.

Anyway, things change too bad, Atari 2600 carts were $50 so I think the game industry did pretty damn well at not raising prices seeing as how they basically stayed the same for the last 30 FREAKING YEARS.

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Lol, look at all the guys that don't remember Street Fighter on SNES was $70 and the Donkey kong game on N64 that was $80.

There more than just those two but I think you get the point.

Anyway, things change too bad, Atari 2600 carts were $50 so I think the game industry did pretty damn well at not raising prices seeing as how they basically stayed the same for the last 30 FREAKING YEARS.

Riverwolf007

My thoughts exactly.

I had to pay for the majority of my games since the N64 days and I guess I got used to the price. Like I said earlier, I still remember paying 70 or 80 for zelda OoT. that one hurt my wallet pretty bad especially since I was 12 back then.:P I guess most of the people just realise it now because they have to pay for the games themselves.

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#32 Davidhye
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the actual disc with the game costs only $10 but they add extra 50 to make profit

i would love if games would cost $30; i would have much much more game. i think 30 is actually a good price for games; a fair price; something between 30-40

$60 is just waaaay too much

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#33 beast667
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the actual disc with the game costs only $10 but they add extra 50 to make profit

i would love if games would cost $30; i would have much much more game. i think 30 is actually a good price for games; a fair price; something between 30-40

$60 is just waaaay too much

Davidhye
nevermind the millions in development costs...
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pfft games are 100 to $120 in Australia and our dollar is almost as strong as the American dollar.....stingey Americans lol

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pfft games are 100 to $120 in Australia and our dollar is almost as strong as the American dollar.....stingey Americans lol

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damn, it must suck beeing a gamer in australia:(
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it is. but its even worse for silver 360 users as half the game they pay for is useless, in gta4 360 the phone doesnt even show the multiplayer modes for silver ..lol
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#37 ArisShadows
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I find the price a bit steep, now it too easily to go over a 100 within couple purchases.
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For modern games yes. Games used to come with huge, colourful instruction manuals that contained cool facts about the characters and stories and detailed information about all the things about the game. Now it is just a few pages of black and white instructions on what the controls are and how to setup an online connection.

This is why I am starting to prefer Digital Distribution (specifically Steam). Not only can I download my game onto any computer that is connected to the internet but I can make an infinite number of legal hard-copy backups so that if I ever do find that my internet connection has failed, I can still install the game and play it. That and the games are so much cheaper than retail since I'm not paying for a box filled with crap.

However, there still are games (like my recent purchase of Persona 3 FES) that come with instruction manuals that are colourful and highly detailed... but then again, I only payed $30 for that one since PS2 games are so freaking cheap now. Unfortunately, FES doesn't come with the soundtrack and artbook, which are always fantastic additions to games.
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For modern games yes. Games used to come with huge, colourful instruction manuals that contained cool facts about the characters and stories and detailed information about all the things about the game. Now it is just a few pages of black and white instructions on what the controls are and how to setup an online connection.

This is why I am starting to prefer Digital Distribution (specifically Steam). Not only can I download my game onto any computer that is connected to the internet but I can make an infinite number of legal hard-copy backups so that if I ever do find that my internet connection has failed, I can still install the game and play it. That and the games are so much cheaper than retail since I'm not paying for a box filled with crap.

However, there still are games (like my recent purchase of Persona 3 FES) that come with instruction manuals that are colourful and highly detailed... but then again, I only payed $30 for that one since PS2 games are so freaking cheap now. Unfortunately, FES doesn't come with the soundtrack and artbook, which are always fantastic additions to games.foxhound_fox

Gotta disagree.

Bioshock, MGS4, GTA4... All these games have intensive man-hours. Visual artists, writers, sound designers, voice talent, coders by the ton. That's where the money goes. As awesome as Mike Tyson's Punch-Out! was, I'm sure they were working with smaller teams.

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#40 -Wheels-
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I remember when SNES games would release at $60 to $70, and the same with N64. Sony came in with a lower price and great games, I think that's why the stole the spotlight for a while there. Last gen was great though, I think we all got really used to paying $50 at most for games (aside some exceptions and special editions). Now costs are back up though, and studios are merging and closing down like mad this gen. Kinda scary.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]For modern games yes. Games used to come with huge, colourful instruction manuals that contained cool facts about the characters and stories and detailed information about all the things about the game. Now it is just a few pages of black and white instructions on what the controls are and how to setup an online connection.

This is why I am starting to prefer Digital Distribution (specifically Steam). Not only can I download my game onto any computer that is connected to the internet but I can make an infinite number of legal hard-copy backups so that if I ever do find that my internet connection has failed, I can still install the game and play it. That and the games are so much cheaper than retail since I'm not paying for a box filled with crap.

However, there still are games (like my recent purchase of Persona 3 FES) that come with instruction manuals that are colourful and highly detailed... but then again, I only payed $30 for that one since PS2 games are so freaking cheap now. Unfortunately, FES doesn't come with the soundtrack and artbook, which are always fantastic additions to games.lucidflux

Gotta disagree.

Bioshock, MGS4, GTA4... All these games have intensive man-hours. Visual artists, writers, sound designers, voice talent, coders by the ton. That's where the money goes. As awesome as Mike Tyson's Punch-Out! was, I'm sure they were working with smaller teams.

Most games back in the day were made with teams of 5 people at MOST, and those games were still finished anywhere from 1 month to a year. Now a 40 person team is considered medium to small, and they spend usually a year and a half to 2 years working on a game. So ya, you are correct sir.

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Hell yes. PC games? Not neccessarily: they provide real content that will last a long time

Console games? Problem

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Gotta disagree.

Bioshock, MGS4, GTA4... All these games have intensive man-hours. Visual artists, writers, sound designers, voice talent, coders by the ton. That's where the money goes. As awesome as Mike Tyson's Punch-Out! was, I'm sure they were working with smaller teams.

lucidflux

Technically I mentioned nothing about game budgets relative to game costs... and technically, lower budget games from the SNES/GEN and N64/PS eras were more expensive than games are now. Some N64 games cost upwards of $100 each and had budgets nowhere near that of modern day blockbusters.

The $10 price hike between last gen and this gen was nothing more than the publishers saying "since these games are "NEXT GEN!" we can charge $10 more for them." Most of the money made from games goes to the pockets of the publishers. The people who actually make the games make as much money as you or I do. It's sad really.

I would also like to mention the fact that it doesn't matter how much you charge for a game, as long as you do it right, you can make a good profit. The people who made Audiosurf (I think it was three people) made a simple yet fun game on an extremely low budget, got it put on Steam for $10 and made an assload of money.
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#44 WhiteDesert89
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[QUOTE="bigLLL"]

pfft games are 100 to $120 in Australia and our dollar is almost as strong as the American dollar.....stingey Americans lol

killerfist

damn, it must suck beeing a gamer in australia:(

Yeah, EB Games is the worst contender. Last week I saw COD4, GTA4 and NG2 priced at $95 each PRE-OWNED.

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[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="bigLLL"]

pfft games are 100 to $120 in Australia and our dollar is almost as strong as the American dollar.....stingey Americans lol

WhiteDesert89

damn, it must suck beeing a gamer in australia:(

Yeah, EB Games is the worst contender. Last week I saw COD4, GTA4 and NG2 priced at $95 each PRE-OWNED.

wow...that blows

how do you guys buy your games then? via internet?

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#46 Plucky7
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yes i miss the good old days of 50 bucks
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#47 WhiteDesert89
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[QUOTE="WhiteDesert89"][QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="bigLLL"]

pfft games are 100 to $120 in Australia and our dollar is almost as strong as the American dollar.....stingey Americans lol

killerfist

damn, it must suck beeing a gamer in australia:(

Yeah, EB Games is the worst contender. Last week I saw COD4, GTA4 and NG2 priced at $95 each PRE-OWNED.

wow...that blows

how do you guys buy your games then? via internet?

Some people do import games but the majority of people will buy the games at $100+, no questions asked. There are chain stores like K-Mart that sell new release games for $80 and I usually buy my games from there. Like I said before, EB are the worst store to buy games and I only go there when their sales are on.

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#48 killerfist
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Some people do import games but the majority of people will buy the games at $100+, no questions asked. There are chain stores like K-Mart that sell new release games for $80 and I usually buy my games from there. I only go to EB when they have there sales on every now and then, but other than that I steer clear of them.

WhiteDesert89

I can't believe the huge difference between the EB and k-mart stores:? $95 pre owned vs $80 new...

and they actually get away with that..damn..:|

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#49 Cowmanik
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Yes, because it was supposed to help with Next Gen costs. Somewhere along the line, Next Gen became Current gen and we're still paying...:(

Oh well, at least it isn't as expensive as the NES/SNES/N64 days.

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How much were NES, SNES, and Nintendo 64 games? I started gaming on March 20, 1998 with a Nintendo 64, but I rarely bought games with my own money, so I don't remember the exact prices. I do remember buying Glover, which sucked horribly, for, like, sixty-nine dollars or something. Maybe in the seventy range. I just remember it was damn expensive, and I spent all my hard-earned money on it, and it sucked. Hard. (That's what she said). My freaking ball would always pop and it was overly difficult for me, as I was a little kid.

Sorry for that rant. I realize I got off topic a bit. Anyway, how much were they again? I'm assuming because they were catridges. Did the PS1, Genesis, Saturn, DreamCast, and etcetera games cost less by any chance?

I have an old ad that shows a Super Nintendo game costing $40 from 1993, N64 games cost $60 in 1998. I remember N64 games costing $70 as well when the system was new, although our memories may not be perfect.
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#50 killab2oo5
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Yes. T_T Developement costs have gone down now (I believe) so I think game prices should go back down to $60. Sadly,many people tolerate $60 so games will continue to be priced at it.