Do you think European developers makes better FPS than developers from N.America

example: DICE, Guerilla Games vs Bungie, treyarch.

and any big different in artistic design?

IMO there's a lot more quality FPS developers overseas than there are in USA/Canada.

yes. Battlefield (DICE), Stalker (GSC Game World), Crytek (Far Cry, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, let's ignore Crysis 2)

TBH I never think of games by region unless it is a Japanese game.

What I can tell you is that them Europeans are freaking talented artist. And I thought us asians were good :(

As far as FPS´s go these days,yes,I agree.

Seeing today's Fps's I say I agree with your statement

Bungie's still in the USA right? And Valve? And Id? They're all USA right?

So yeah, USA still wins.

I would still vote N.America but I think European Devs have made some great strides this generation, no doubt.

I think there are a great many developers better than Treyarch, but luckily, they aren't the only FPS developer in N.A. (Valve and Bungie, also listed above were first to come to mind when I think FPS, along with IW, Respawn who has yet to prove themselves, etc). DICE is amazing, no doubt, but lack a certain I don't know what to get them over that hump for me, but I will be playing their Battlefield 3 game this Holiday. :P

A lot of people already mentioned a great many reasons and developers. Lucky for me, I don't discriminate where a dev is from, and I just play the game, and based on the past, I still vote N.A...but Europe is coming in hard and fast, lol.

umm when it comes to guns and shooting us Americans got that on lock down so back off before I pump one in your a55;)

I love Stalker but I would not put it up there with the best purely bc technically it is garbage. If feels like a great amateurish game, the coding and all the glitches are terrible. I do not touch the game until complete mod comes out. Also Bad Company 2 incoporates the worst spawn system in squad deathmatch, how it made it to the final build is beyond me. The game is just as noobish as cod games imho.

Overall they are pretty equal to me with their flaws but I play N. American games a tad more.

umm when it comes to guns and shooting us Americans got that on lock down so back off before I pump one in your a55;)

demon-returns

In other countries, some of them require military service and even one required owning an assault rifle as home protection. Not to mention their FPS scene is a lot more hardcore than USA's. Pretty sure Europe is superior in this case. GL poppin' on in their ass while they pick you off miles away...with a noscope :D

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umm when it comes to guns and shooting us Americans got that on lock down so back off before I pump one in your a55;)

ChubbyGuy40

In other countries, some of them require military service and even one required owning an assault rifle as home protection. Not to mention their FPS scene is a lot more hardcore than USA's. Pretty sure Europe is superior in this case. GL poppin' on in their ass while they pick you off miles away...with a noscope :D

It's okay one of these days we'll organize a FPS online tournament where each of the regions face off against each other and we'll see which regions come out on top.

FPS - goes to what region? US, Europe, Japan?

Fighting games - ?

Racing games -?

Strategy games -? Korea for SC2

FPS - goes to what region? US, Europe, Japan?

demon-returns

Europe. Dey pro at Counter Strike over thar.

example: DICE, Guerilla Games vs Bungie, treyarch.

and any big different in artistic design?

hippiesanta

Hmm, I'll go with a tie.

However, us Europeans are better at FPS :P

i know i will play doom4 more than any fps on the market now. I just hope they dont add a call of duty iron sight bullcrap, i hope it's just a zoomed view like duke nukem forever. iron sight's slowdown the gameplay.JOOOOeMOMMA

Ugh, iron sights are terrible. They work for some games, but the games I have to most fun with tend to not have the iron sights.

I'd say north america wins. though it's close.

I'd say it's a tie, it would suck to miss on games from both sides.

From my experience European games tend to aim for innovation, while NA games tend to improve upon existing formulas. Such a direction doesn't always work out, and sometimes the games can be riddled with bugs. Nonetheless every once in awhile there will be an European game that would make its name and attract a cult of dedicated fans.

FPS - goes to what region? US, Europe, Japan?

Fighting games - ?

Racing games -?

Strategy games -? Korea for SC2

demon-returns

FPS - I'd honestly give it to Europe. There are hardcore PC players over there that make our players look very bad. They are really serious about it there. No casual crap like Halo. Only real manly games like Counter Strike 8)

Fighting - Between Japan and USA. Don't know what fighters or competitors that come from Europe. Japan develops most of the games that are considered "Competitive," but I think most of them are too complex that it ruins the game.

Racing - Easily Europe.

Strategy - Can't argue there. China and especially Korea have that locked down.

[QUOTE="JOOOOeMOMMA"]i know i will play doom4 more than any fps on the market now. I just hope they dont add a call of duty iron sight bullcrap, i hope it's just a zoomed view like duke nukem forever. iron sight's slowdown the gameplay.NeonNinja

Ugh, iron sights are terrible. They work for some games, but the games I have to most fun with tend to not have the iron sights.

I hate when iron sights = instant, uber accuracy. It doesn't change the gun's recoil/accuracy IRL, why should it in a game?

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[QUOTE="JOOOOeMOMMA"]i know i will play doom4 more than any fps on the market now. I just hope they dont add a call of duty iron sight bullcrap, i hope it's just a zoomed view like duke nukem forever. iron sight's slowdown the gameplay.ChubbyGuy40

Ugh, iron sights are terrible. They work for some games, but the games I have to most fun with tend to not have the iron sights.

I hate when iron sights = instant, uber accuracy. It doesn't change the gun's recoil/accuracy IRL, why should it in a game?

Thats not true. It does change recoil and accuracy in real life. Based solely on the position you're firing from. Firing "from the hip" would be extremely inaccurate in real life.i5750at4Ghz

I know from the hip is extremely inaccurate in real-life, but what I was trying to say was that from-the-shoulder/ADS doesn't mean 100% accuracy. Hit boxes are far too large and bullets don't have the spray they should.

I say they're more of less equal. EUropean FPS devs tend to focus on innovation and pushing the graphics more, while US ones have better polish.

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[QUOTE="JOOOOeMOMMA"]i know i will play doom4 more than any fps on the market now. I just hope they dont add a call of duty iron sight bullcrap, i hope it's just a zoomed view like duke nukem forever. iron sight's slowdown the gameplay.ChubbyGuy40

Ugh, iron sights are terrible. They work for some games, but the games I have to most fun with tend to not have the iron sights.

I hate when iron sights = instant, uber accuracy. It doesn't change the gun's recoil/accuracy IRL, why should it in a game?

That's the one thing I really despise. In Call of Duty, if you hit the iron sights, it automatically focuses on an enemy for you. I saw the same thing in gameplay demonstrations of other shooters as well. It really becomes used as a cheap copot for auto-aim.I hate it.

No i still think its Europe, STALKER, Killzone, Metro, Crysis, Deus Ex, Battlefield, and tone more are some of my favorite FPS games of all time.

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Ugh, iron sights are terrible. They work for some games, but the games I have to most fun with tend to not have the iron sights.

NeonNinja

I hate when iron sights = instant, uber accuracy. It doesn't change the gun's recoil/accuracy IRL, why should it in a game?

That's the one thing I really despise. In Call of Duty, if you hit the iron sights, it automatically focuses on an enemy for you. I saw the same thing in gameplay demonstrations of other shooters as well. It really becomes used as a cheap copot for auto-aim.I hate it.

ADS snap is BS. Just a handicap for controllers. BC2 on consoles has it too :(

Are we talking about over all or more recently? At present I'd say MAYBE Europe, however it would be close.

Overall it would obviously be North America. Id software created the genre basically, Valve revolutionalized it again with Half-Life, and even Infinitiy Ward created the entire "Iron sites" gameplay style that permeates the vast majority of shooters.

Definately Europe, the last FPS that came out of N.A was Duke nukem forever

Infinitiy Ward created the entire "Iron sites" gameplay style that permeates the vast majority of shooters.

HoolaHoopMan

Wait what? Games had it long before CoD did. Most notably, Battlefield did it. I think the original RO mod was released before CoD was it not? Operation Flashpoint was also before it.

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Infinitiy Ward created the entire "Iron sites" gameplay style that permeates the vast majority of shooters.

ChubbyGuy40

Wait what? Games had it long before CoD did. Most notably, Battlefield did it. I think the original RO mod was released before CoD was it not? Operation Flashpoint was also before it.

Europe all the way!