Do you think Sony was scared off by Gears 2 and thats why they delayed KZ2?

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#1 Coredog777
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Do you think that had anything to do with Killzone 2 being pushed back to 2009? I mean they have been working on that game since 2005 E3 and last E3 they had ingame cutscenes of true gameplay, I dont understand why they are pushing it back again. Gears 2 and Marcus Fenix scared off greyzone2? What do you guys think?

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CHICKEN AND WATERMELON!!!
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#3 Sliverwarrior
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Just do a little research and you'll know why.

This have been posted before sir.

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#4 Kirlok
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considering they learned their lesson when they tried to kill halo (wich was very funny because the first killzone was complete garbage), i think its possible.
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It couldn't possibly be because Guerilla needs more time to make KZ2. Could it? :o

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#6 Riverwolf007
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Omg, Delayed?!?! say it ain't so. I've had to hear about this game for 36 months of non-stop hype since E3 2005 and now I've got to hear even MORE!!

ARRRRGHHHHHHHHH! God help us all!

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#7 Afrikanxl
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no.... Resistance 2 and KZ2 were releasing to close to each other..... its only good business to spread it out alittle...and to work more on the game to make it the best possible.... We know Insomniac doesn't need much time to release a Solid Polished game.... GG on the other hand.... well lets just give them more time....

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#8 Fondness
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I don't know.
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#9 Kirlok
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no.... Resistance 2 and KZ2 were releasing to close to each other..... its only good business to spread it out alittle...and to work more on the game to make it the best possible.... We know Insomniac doesn't need much time to release a Solid Polished game.... GG on the other hand.... well lets just give them more time....

Afrikanxl

ill have to agree, launching those 2 together can only end in killzone dead (again)

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#10 thrones
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Well, if they're totally scared about it don't you think they'd have delayed Resistance as well?

The simple reason is you shouldn't have two top games of the same genre coming at the same time.

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#11 bobbetybob
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It couldn't possibly be because Guerilla needs more time to make KZ2. Could it? :o

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I love how gamers are so impatient these days. I'll happily wait longer for a game if it means it's going to be better. I hate how companies think it's fine to rush a game then release a patch or something later. Just disappoint people a bit, or don't set stupid release dates that you won't match.

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#12 thrones
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[QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

no.... Resistance 2 and KZ2 were releasing to close to each other..... its only good business to spread it out alittle...and to work more on the game to make it the best possible.... We know Insomniac doesn't need much time to release a Solid Polished game.... GG on the other hand.... well lets just give them more time....

Kirlok

ill have to agree, launching those 2 together can only end in killzone dead (again)

Killzone did..alright.. commerically, over 1 million sales at least because I swear I've seen a platinum edition of Killzone.

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Do you think that had anything to do with Killzone 2 being pushed back to 2009? I mean they have been working on that game since 2005 E3 and last E3 they had ingame cutscenes of true gameplay, I dont understand why they are pushing it back again. Gears 2 and Marcus Fenix scared off greyzone2? What do you guys think?

Coredog777

Umm they have Resistance 2 slated for this Fall. That game was easier to make then Killzone because they can build off the first games engine while Killzone 2 has to start from scratch and has alot riding on its shoulders so I HIGHLY doubt KZ 2 was pushed back because of GEOW 2. It was pushed back so it wouldnt compete with their other exclusive shooter.

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[QUOTE="Kirlok"][QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

no.... Resistance 2 and KZ2 were releasing to close to each other..... its only good business to spread it out alittle...and to work more on the game to make it the best possible.... We know Insomniac doesn't need much time to release a Solid Polished game.... GG on the other hand.... well lets just give them more time....

thrones

ill have to agree, launching those 2 together can only end in killzone dead (again)

Killzone did..alright.. commerically, over 1 million sales at least because I swear I've seen a platinum edition of Killzone.

all thanks to sony spitting **** out of their mouths 'IOMG BUY IT ITS TEH HALO KILAHG, I SWARE!!1'

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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Kirlok"][QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

no.... Resistance 2 and KZ2 were releasing to close to each other..... its only good business to spread it out alittle...and to work more on the game to make it the best possible.... We know Insomniac doesn't need much time to release a Solid Polished game.... GG on the other hand.... well lets just give them more time....

Kirlok

ill have to agree, launching those 2 together can only end in killzone dead (again)

Killzone did..alright.. commerically, over 1 million sales at least because I swear I've seen a platinum edition of Killzone.

all thanks to sony spitting **** out of their mouths 'IOMG BUY IT ITS TEH HALO KILAHG, I SWARE!!1'

:lol:

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#16 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Kirlok"][QUOTE="Afrikanxl"]

no.... Resistance 2 and KZ2 were releasing to close to each other..... its only good business to spread it out alittle...and to work more on the game to make it the best possible.... We know Insomniac doesn't need much time to release a Solid Polished game.... GG on the other hand.... well lets just give them more time....

Kirlok

ill have to agree, launching those 2 together can only end in killzone dead (again)

Killzone did..alright.. commerically, over 1 million sales at least because I swear I've seen a platinum edition of Killzone.

all thanks to sony spitting **** out of their mouths 'IOMG BUY IT ITS TEH HALO KILAHG, I SWARE!!1'

Pretty much. Like Turok.

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#17 Couth_
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Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet are coming out the same time as Gears 2.
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#18 Kirlok
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Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet are coming out the same time as Gears 2.Couth_

kinda weird, gears 2 is gona be a monster, but then again if sone has nothing to counter it, it will be even bigger

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#19 thrones
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[QUOTE="Couth_"]Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet are coming out the same time as Gears 2.Kirlok

kinda weird, gears 2 is gona be a monster, but then again if sone has nothing to counter it, it will be even bigger

Well... it couldn't be ANYTHING to do with the fact that the winter times is the prime-time for game release when all games are released in that time period?

And it all depends on advertising dollars.

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#20 Kirlok
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[QUOTE="Kirlok"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet are coming out the same time as Gears 2.thrones

kinda weird, gears 2 is gona be a monster, but then again if sone has nothing to counter it, it will be even bigger

Well... it couldn't be ANYTHING to do with the fact that the winter times is the prime-time for game release when all games are released in that time period?

And it all depends on advertising dollars.

we know but releasing it at the same month as gears2, dont really expect awsome sales

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#21 Couth_
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we know but releasing it at the same month as gears2, dont really expect awsome sales

Kirlok

A study done by NPD revealed less than 2% of gamers own more than one console. They are on different platforms they won't take sales from eachother

Personally i'm buying R2 and renting Gears2

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#22 thrones
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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="Kirlok"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Resistance 2 and Little Big Planet are coming out the same time as Gears 2.Kirlok

kinda weird, gears 2 is gona be a monster, but then again if sone has nothing to counter it, it will be even bigger

Well... it couldn't be ANYTHING to do with the fact that the winter times is the prime-time for game release when all games are released in that time period?

And it all depends on advertising dollars.

we know but releasing it at the same month as gears2, dont really expect awsome sales

Why? They're on different consoles with a mostly different fanbase.

They will each push consoles based mostly on advertising money, not so much quality. Well, they have to be like good but if GeoW ends up Worse than Resistance 2 but MS puts their full advertising backing into it, GeoW will push more consoles and software sales.

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#23 Tykain
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Why would they be scared of a game that is on another system. it's not like it would affect KZ2 sales, except maybe for the people that have both consoles and i doubt buying both games around the same time would be a problem for people that can aford both consoles.
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No, it's more likely that they don't want to release KZ2 and R2 at the same time. It'd be like releasing Gears 2 and Halo 4 within a week of each other.
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#25 lawlessx
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i still dont see why cant they just pushed back Resistance 2 and release killzone 2 first. they're missing Q4 and they're chance to really help sell killzone 2. whouldnt people still be playing R2 when killzone 2 releases?
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Professional courtesy towards Insomniac (Who has been a staunch Sony supporter) is my guess but who knows.
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#27 thrones
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i still dont see why cant they just pushed back Resistance 2 and release killzone 2 first. they're missing Q4 and they're chance to really help sell killzone 2. whouldnt people still be playing R2 when killzone 2 releases?lawlessx

CoD4 and Halo 3 managed to both sell well despite a similar time difference.

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Perhaps they dont want 2 of their biggest FPS games going head to head (Resistance 2 and KZ 2)
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#29 Mongo-Boss
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I'm glad it wasn't Resistance 2 that was pushed back, I'm actually looking forward to playing this FPS. I haven't been hyped for a FPS since Halo 2 which failed my expectations so I'm hoping Insomiac does better. Just my opinion before someone starts flaming....
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i still dont see why cant they just pushed back Resistance 2 and release killzone 2 first. they're missing Q4 and they're chance to really help sell killzone 2. whouldnt people still be playing R2 when killzone 2 releases?lawlessx
Perhaps Killzone 2 wouldn't even be ready by November (it might not even be finished before February) , or perhaps it could be ready but Sony realises that Insomniac will deliver for them again in a big way and they realise that R2 should be above Killzone 2 and are willing to give Insomniac center stage again for all that they have done for the ps3 so far. Resistance 2 will be a sure fire hit ...... we really don't have any clue as to how Killzone 2 will do critically or commercially , I am sure Sony understands that as well.

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Do you think that had anything to do with Killzone 2 being pushed back to 2009? I mean they have been working on that game since 2005 E3 and last E3 they had ingame cutscenes of true gameplay, I dont understand why they are pushing it back again. Gears 2 and Marcus Fenix scared off greyzone2? What do you guys think?

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1. KZ 2 has only been delayed for Europe. It is still coming Holidays 2008 for NA!! Its not like its going to be a year long delay either. It is slated for Feb 2009 in EU, so big deal!!

2. 360 fanboys had better hope that GeOW 2 offers alot of new and exciting gameplay or else gamers will get the "been there, done that" feeling. So all of this KZ 2 is just another generic shooter is BS Imo. Aren't all FPS more or less the same when it comes down to it?

3. The Greyzone 2 comments just further everyones believe in your idiocy!!!!!

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#32 karram
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I think Gears 2 was one of the main reasons.
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Honestly I think they need more time. The way it looks, I think it will take them a very long time to make. I expect further delays.
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#34 thrones
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[QUOTE="Coredog777"]

Do you think that had anything to do with Killzone 2 being pushed back to 2009? I mean they have been working on that game since 2005 E3 and last E3 they had ingame cutscenes of true gameplay, I dont understand why they are pushing it back again. Gears 2 and Marcus Fenix scared off greyzone2? What do you guys think?

kungfuchaos

1. KZ 2 has only been delayed for Europe. It is still coming Holidays 2008 for NA!! Its not like its going to be a year long delay either. It is slated for Feb 2009 in EU, so big deal!!

2. 360 fanboys had better hope that GeOW 2 offers alot of new and exciting gameplay or else gamers will get the "been there, done that" feeling. So all of this KZ 2 is just another generic shooter is BS Imo. Aren't all FPS more or less the same when it comes down to it?

3. The Greyzone 2 comments just further everyones believe in your idiocy!!!!!

No it isn't! Stop making silly stuff up. Why would it be delayed just here? For Europe, the localisation is not needed as much as alot of it speaks English and PS3 is region free so they wouldn't hav eto change ANYTHING.

It IS delayed for the entire WORLD.

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they want to copy Gears 2 features before releasing it :P !
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they want to copy Gears 2 features before releasing it :P !Prid3r

Features such as 5v5 multiplayer and sticking to cover for their entire life? :|

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#37 MikeE21286
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no, it's because they didn't want to launch it so close to Resistance 2. I think that's obvious, no?
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probably has more to do with not wanting to compete with resistance 2, and having the 2 games come out at different times so that the ... people who buy resistance 2 and quickly get bored of it will then buy killzone 2 ...

Features such as 5v5 multiplayer and sticking to cover for their entire life? :|

thrones
Aparently someone has never played gears of war before, or is terribly bad at it.
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[QUOTE="Prid3r"]they want to copy Gears 2 features before releasing it :P !thrones

Features such as 5v5 multiplayer and sticking to cover for their entire life? :|

no features like , Red and green colors !

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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Prid3r"]they want to copy Gears 2 features before releasing it :P !Prid3r

Features such as 5v5 multiplayer and sticking to cover for their entire life? :|

no features like , Red and green colors !

Err...there's alot of red and green around :| The Helghast have red eyes, the lights are often red and green is often used by the ISA.

And for a game set on a Death World (WH40k Term) which produced the hardest breed of humanity who are tougher, faster stronger and smarter than most humans you'd expect it to be a little depressing. Having a consistent theme is extremely important, and Killzone 2 sticks to that. And war isn't colourful surprisingly.

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#42 thrones
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probably has more to do with not wanting to compete with resistance 2, and having the 2 games come out at different times so that the ... people who buy resistance 2 and quickly get bored of it will then buy killzone 2 ...

[QUOTE="thrones"]

Features such as 5v5 multiplayer and sticking to cover for their entire life? :|

iamright05

Aparently someone has never played gears of war before, or is terribly bad at it.

I have played Gears of War, for singleplayer you stick to walls alot and in multiplayer you run around with a shotgun.

Simplified, but it's how I felt about the game. I completed it on casual then 'meh'ed' it. Tried the Multiplayer, didn't like it so I traded it in for another game :|

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[QUOTE="Prid3r"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Prid3r"]they want to copy Gears 2 features before releasing it :P !thrones

Features such as 5v5 multiplayer and sticking to cover for their entire life? :|

no features like , Red and green colors !

Err...there's alot of red and green around :| The Helghast have red eyes, the lights are often red and green is often used by the ISA.

And for a game set on a Death World (WH40k Term) which produced the hardest breed of humanity who are tougher, faster stronger and smarter than most humans you'd expect it to be a little depressing. Having a consistent theme is extremely important, and Killzone 2 sticks to that. And war isn't colourful surprisingly.

isn't my sarcasm obvious enough ?

AND WHY DO I KEEP GETTING A Your HTML is not well-formed - no valid tags were found. when there a link somewhere in the quote!

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I think Gears 2 was one of the main reasons.ma7moud93

That doesn't make any sense, I don't know why people are saying it. If KZ2 > Gears 2 graphics wise then what would be the big deal? Also, why would an exclusive disrupt the sales of an exclusive on a different console?

Most console owners don't own both consoles. So what you have are PS3 only owners buying KZ2 and 360 only owners buying Gears 2. The only thing to worry about is one over-shadowing the other which I don't think will happen this time.
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#45 kungfuchaos
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[QUOTE="kungfuchaos"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

Do you think that had anything to do with Killzone 2 being pushed back to 2009? I mean they have been working on that game since 2005 E3 and last E3 they had ingame cutscenes of true gameplay, I dont understand why they are pushing it back again. Gears 2 and Marcus Fenix scared off greyzone2? What do you guys think?

thrones

1. KZ 2 has only been delayed for Europe. It is still coming Holidays 2008 for NA!! Its not like its going to be a year long delay either. It is slated for Feb 2009 in EU, so big deal!!

2. 360 fanboys had better hope that GeOW 2 offers alot of new and exciting gameplay or else gamers will get the "been there, done that" feeling. So all of this KZ 2 is just another generic shooter is BS Imo. Aren't all FPS more or less the same when it comes down to it?

3. The Greyzone 2 comments just further everyones believe in your idiocy!!!!!

No it isn't! Stop making silly stuff up. Why would it be delayed just here? For Europe, the localisation is not needed as much as alot of it speaks English and PS3 is region free so they wouldn't hav eto change ANYTHING.

It IS delayed for the entire WORLD.

Dude, go to N4G.com! The SCEE President explains the reason KZ 2 has been delayed ONLY IN EU!!! Sorry buddy, but your Europeans are getting the short end of the stick on this one. NA get KZ 2 as planned Holidays 2008!!!
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If the games not done, then the games not done.

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#47 whocares4peace
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They were scared that Resistance and Killzone would cannibalize each others sales.
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[QUOTE="kungfuchaos"][QUOTE="Coredog777"]

Do you think that had anything to do with Killzone 2 being pushed back to 2009? I mean they have been working on that game since 2005 E3 and last E3 they had ingame cutscenes of true gameplay, I dont understand why they are pushing it back again. Gears 2 and Marcus Fenix scared off greyzone2? What do you guys think?

thrones

1. KZ 2 has only been delayed for Europe. It is still coming Holidays 2008 for NA!! Its not like its going to be a year long delay either. It is slated for Feb 2009 in EU, so big deal!!

2. 360 fanboys had better hope that GeOW 2 offers alot of new and exciting gameplay or else gamers will get the "been there, done that" feeling. So all of this KZ 2 is just another generic shooter is BS Imo. Aren't all FPS more or less the same when it comes down to it?

3. The Greyzone 2 comments just further everyones believe in your idiocy!!!!!

No it isn't! Stop making silly stuff up. Why would it be delayed just here? For Europe, the localisation is not needed as much as alot of it speaks English and PS3 is region free so they wouldn't hav eto change ANYTHING.

It IS delayed for the entire WORLD.

Sorry thrones i like u but the sony day article says "European release for Guerilla's shooter pushed to 2009," check the article, unless there has been an update in the last 48 its only for europe...

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Sony isn't making KZ2...
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#50 Blood_Bampyre
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Sorry thrones i like u but the sony day article says "European release for Guerilla's shooter pushed to 2009," check the article, unless there has been an update in the last 48 its only for europe...

but isnt Guerilla located in Europe, so that seems alittle odd