Do you think that Vanquish has risen the bar for current-gen TPS shooters?

Personally I think it set a standard. Whatcha think?

its a great game, but imo it set no standard.... also no MP for a shooter is not a good thing.. short sp campaign alone will set no standard in my records even if the game is good...

What standard exactly...? It's a good TPS but there's nothing really ground breaking about it.

Vanquish is great. I'm not sure if it is better than Uncharted 2 though--love the Uncharted enemy AI--Vanquish is more akin to old 16bit shooters, but Uncharted feels a bit more cohesive, imo. Both games are a notch above any other TPS game on the market though.

I enjoy the game, I love how fast it is, but I doubt it has risen any bar, not after UC2 :S

For me it's Gears > Uncharted > Vanquish.

Nope, not as good as gears.G-O-M-J

Really, why not?

UC2 set a standard and Vanquish was very close to that but not quite there. Gears perhaps has a chance to go one up over UC2 if it scores a 9.5 but no doubt UC3 will retake the crown.gamebreakerz__

Uncharted has yet to outscore the first Gears.

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]UC2 set a standard and Vanquish was very close to that but not quite there. Gears perhaps has a chance to go one up over UC2 if it scores a 9.5 but no doubt UC3 will retake the crown.waltefmoney

Uncharted has yet to outscore the first Gears.

Nope, not as good as gears.G-O-M-J

[QUOTE="G-O-M-J"]Nope, not as good as gears.Vinegar_Strokes

What standard exactly...? It's a good TPS but there's nothing really ground breaking about it.

the_mitch28

Oh lord. In order to effectively explain that I would have to type out a review of the flippen game, and I'm really not in the mood for that. First off, I never said it's ground-breaking. I'm merely speaking in terms of setting a standard of quality. That has nothing to do with being ground-breaking. I'm gonna try to keep this short...

Vanquish, to me, set a standard in terms of gameplay. The things you can pull off are pretty remarkable, but the most impressive aspect is how easy those things are to pull off and how fluid they are (the fact that you're doing these things at very high speeds is just unspeakably awesome). Boosting into an enemy at 60 mph, doing a kick flip off it's chest, and then shooting it WHILE you're still flying through the air just should NOT be this easy. The controls are so easy and fluid that it's stupid. Stupid good. Stringing these insanely awesome attacks together is just sooooo satisfying and it's amazing how elegantly it all flows together.

The technical aspects of the game have a level of polish that I have never seen before. The game looks pretty damn good, so it's very impressive that it manages to maintain a *very* sturdy framerate, especially at the pace it moves. I haven't experienced a glitch throughout my entire 1st playthrough or 2nd. The enemy AI is extremely good, and it always seems to react accordingly to every given situation. So you're gonna camp behind cover, huh? Well if a nearby enemy notices this he will run up to the cover, jump over it, and beat your ass. If you fire at them they dive or duck behind cover. If you're not attacking them or out of their line of sight, they turn their attention to other threats (your NPC friendlies).

It's just an astounding game and I personally think it has set the standard for all other TPS games to come. Uncharted 2? PFFT!

No, not really.

It just took normal cover based gameplay and made it cool to use, with all the fast paced tricks and ****

I do think it will have an influence on future titles. Current cover based games aren't nearly as mobile as i'd like, Gears being the worst offender, and even UC2 leaves alot to be desired.

i really didnt think the demo was very good.

No, not really.

It just took normal cover based gameplay and made it cool to use, with all the fast paced tricks and ****

I do think it will have an influence on future titles. Current cover based games aren't nearly as mobile as i'd like, Gears being the worst offender, and even UC2 leaves alot to be desired.

-Snooze-

Hey, why arn't you playing it right now? You're under strict orders from ME :evil: :P

[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]UC2 set a standard and Vanquish was very close to that but not quite there. Gears perhaps has a chance to go one up over UC2 if it scores a 9.5 but no doubt UC3 will retake the crown.waltefmoney

Uncharted has yet to outscore the first Gears.

Technically they scored the same. The only reason Gears' score is higher is because it was reviewed when GS used the 100 point system. Today it obviously would have gotten the 9.5. Wait, are you talking about Uncharted 1 or 2?

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

No, not really.

It just took normal cover based gameplay and made it cool to use, with all the fast paced tricks and ****

I do think it will have an influence on future titles. Current cover based games aren't nearly as mobile as i'd like, Gears being the worst offender, and even UC2 leaves alot to be desired.

Master_ShakeXXX

Hey, why arn't you playing it right now? You're under strict orders from ME :evil: :P

Waiting for the post man :( he's taking his time.

I don't think it met the bar that was currently in place.

I don't. The game is still ****ing great fun though.

Seriously contemplating a God Hard run through :cry: Last boss on Hard literally killed me 15+ times.

I don't. The game is still ****ing great fun though.

Seriously contemplating a God Hard run through :cry: Last boss on Hard literally killed me 15+ times.

lundy86_4

Yeah, the last boss is pretty nuts. Took me 4 tries to beat him on normal and I'm looking forward to fighting him on hard (in act 3 right now). What did you think of the end part where you [spoiler] go into first person, take his gun from him and shoot him with it? [/spoiler]

Words can't even explain how badass that was :shock:

Yeah, the last boss is pretty nuts. Took me 4 tries to beat him on normal and I'm looking forward to fighting him on hard (in act 3 right now). What did you think of the end part where you *snip* stupid GS *snip*

Words can't even explain how badass that was :shock:

Master_ShakeXXX

It was pretty cool. He was a serious mind**** though, but in all hella fun. I hope they come out with a second Vanquish [spoiler] especially considering the ending. [/spoiler]

I know what you mean TC, it certainly has. The combination of intensely fast gameplay with melee and shooting alongside slow moton hasn't been done nearly as effectivily as shown in vanqish, it's satisfying because it looks and feels perfect when executed with the only few buttons given, as you said. soapandbubbles

Glad you agree :)

It's controls are really intuitive. I suppose I shoulda mentioned that in my mini-review from earlier. I think I can safely say that Vanquish has surpassed GOW3 and RDR as my personal goty.

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Yeah, the last boss is pretty nuts. Took me 4 tries to beat him on normal and I'm looking forward to fighting him on hard (in act 3 right now). What did you think of the end part where you *snip* stupid GS *snip*

Words can't even explain how badass that was :shock:

lundy86_4

It was pretty cool. He was a serious mind**** though, but in all hella fun. I hope they come out with a second Vanquish [spoiler] especially considering the ending. [/spoiler]

Nothing would make me happier but apparently the game is selling horribly horribly bad, so chances are looking kinda slim :( :cry:

Anything is possible though I guess...

Nothing would make me happier but apparently the game is selling horribly horribly bad, so chances are looking kinda slim :( :cry:

Anything is possible though I guess...

Master_ShakeXXX

I heard the same, but if they keep the ending like that, with no resolution... It's gonna suck hard :(

The shooter gameplay was rock solid, and its a polished gem. Its amazing how they managed to make the game awesome looking, and have the framerate stay in tact with all the crazyness going on.

On the other hand, the game was a bit repetetive, and short. I mean, the bosses were great and all, but theres very little difference between the boss strategies. Also couldve used a Bayonetta like new game +. It was a fun 6 hours, but unfortunately I feel its kind of a forgettable experience.

not really, the game did nothing for me, i find it mediocre to average at best. way overrated IMO

What standard exactly...? It's a good TPS but there's nothing really ground breaking about it.

the_mitch28

I don't think it's raised the bar, but you don't need to raise the bar to have a good game.

No, it has not.

I am sorry; I am reallynotunderstanding the love for this game. I played the demo and everything about it was average.

TPS shooters?

isn't that "third person shooter shooters"?

no, but its a decent game imo

TPS shooters?

isn't that "third person shooter shooters"?

fadersdream

No because I disliked the demo.

There's no way I'd want every TPS to be so fast I can't enjoy it until I've died a few times first. Even though it is awesome.

TPS shooters?

isn't that "third person shooter shooters"?

fadersdream

Yep. I threw the word "shooter" up there incase some people didn't know what "TPS" meant.

Yep, 7hr campain and no MP, I would say the bar was lowered.

For me it's Gears > Uncharted > Vanquish.

waltefmoney

sorry man,gears is still the king of tps