Do you think the wii was a succes?

Obviously, it was successful from a sales standpoint. It's sold far more units than either the xbox 360 or ps3. Prior to this generation, Nintendo was losing more and more marketshare each successive generation. The gamecube was a console with great first party titles and dwindling third party support. Many people thought that Nintendo may quit the console business and just make games. Then along came the wii. It targetted a very different demographic than in the past. Instead of going after gamers, it hit a whole different demographic and sold like crazy during its first several years.

But as a gamer, I cant say I've gotten much enjoyment out of the wii this gen. Just my opinion, but I have a few things I dont like about it. First, I hate the motion controls. Maybe it's just me, but I dont like the controller and I dont like how games play with it. Sure, it's fun for a few novel titles, but most games just dont seem to jibe well with it. Feels like they made the game first, then tried to shoehorn the motion controls into it.

Secondly, the games. Nintendo certainly delivers with it first party titles, but they're the same basic IP's every generation - Mario, Zelda, Metroid. Despite some third party developers jumping on, there's not a lot of great titles outside of Nintendo. All the real big third party titles this gen seem to exclude the wii - prototype, assasin's creed, mass effect, arkham asylum, gta iv, red dead redemption, etc. etc. etc. It just seems that if you just had a wii, you would have missed out on most of the best titles of this gen.

Third, the specs. Nintendo made a statement that most people dont have HDTVs at the start of this gen, so they didnt go big on the specs. But sony and MS did and the difference is very noticeable. Not only just with graphics that are signficantly better, but overall experience seems to lag in wii games. The games on the other 2 consoles just seem to look better and play better.

Now, I'm not hating on nintendo, but does anyone else see what I mean? For the average person that occasionally plays video games, I'm sure the wii is great. But for many of us that play a lot or are into gaming, I just feel it was a disappointment.

I pretty much agree with what you've said.

Yes it is a success. It gives me unique games that I can play only on the Wii.

I rather have unique games for the Wii than a bunch of games that look terrible and I can play better on my PC.

I rather take a console than a dumbed down PC anyday. =)

Nintendo made a crap load off the system, but it had no real longevity and Nintendo really didn't plan a proper end game so the transistion to the Wii U could be nice and smooth.

Yeah, it was a success. It looked risky as hell when I first saw it, dubbed "The Revolution", but they ended up being really successful with it. If Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 were never released, I would probably be a bit negative towards the Wii and say I thought it was a personal failure, but those 2 games make up a lot of its shortcomings from my point of view.

In a purely gaming standpoint? For a core gamer I think it was a failure if it was the only console they owned. Sure there's a lot of great games, but you're also missing out on so many other games that the other systems got. It is however the best complimentary system. tagyhag

I've played dozens of Wii games that I would consider to be great, even more that I would consider good. The idea that Wii only has 1st party games, which admittedly are the backbone of its library, is silly. Most of my favorite Wii games are 3rd party developed. meetroid8

A lot of hidden gems on the Wii, similar to the PC. Many of their games aren't super marketed to **** like the PS3 and 360 games.

sales wise, yes it was a success in both hardware and software particularly for nintendo.

but for me, if you look at the wii's "raison d'etre" so to speak, as in what the controls promised they would do, it was a total failure. For me the starting point should have been wiimotion plus and it should have improved after that. It seems that the unreliable controls totally undercut its third party support and we never got the type of games we imagined until just now with Zelda, and not much else.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]In a purely gaming standpoint? For a core gamer I think it was a failure if it was the only console they owned. Sure there's a lot of great games, but you're also missing out on so many other games that the other systems got. It is however the best complimentary system. dotWithShoes

Yes, no question. For me, the Wii restored my love for gaming in general. The other consoles and the PC offered nothing different from last gen, and as far as the controllers went, they were exactly the same. Nintendo tried something different and new, and I applaud them for that. I'm not someone that buys hundreds of games per year, so as far as quantity goes, I haven't been disappointed on that front either.

Based on the price and enjoyment I got out of it, absolutely. Of course, it helps Nintendo that it sold like crazy and induced its competitors to copy.

[QUOTE="dotWithShoes"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]In a purely gaming standpoint? For a core gamer I think it was a failure if it was the only console they owned. Sure there's a lot of great games, but you're also missing out on so many other games that the other systems got. It is however the best complimentary system. tagyhag

I pretty much agree with what you've said.

freedomfreak

Probably the worst Nintendo console, but still a great system.Eponique

I agree, it is the worst Nintendo console, but it still is a great system.

The games on the Wii felt unique whether they were "kiddie" or not. It complemented my PC well.

3rd Party games were scarce. You would have lost out if it was the only system you own.

The games on the Wii felt unique whether they were "kiddie" or not. It complemented my PC well.

jun_aka_pekto

It didn't really matter to me much that many multiplatforms were missing from the Wii, considering I also have a PlayStation 3. Nintendo put out a heck of a lot more games this generation than seen in recent generations (five original Super Mario platform games in the course of five and a half years with a new one set to release next year). It makes sense, considering Nintendo 64 was the introduction to 3D games and probably had to handle a lot more issues than they do now. But Rare was completely missing this from Nintendo this generation, and they brought in a lot of their past systems' heavy hitters (there were at least 10 games made by Rare on the Nintendo 64). But I'd say it was a success because the Super Mario Galaxy series was the truest 3D representation of a 2D Mario game, not including Super Mario 3D Land, and they made two of them! I liked the more concentrated platforming. Heck, just actually having platforming as the main focus of the game was awesome! Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine were at their best when you were overcoming obstacles in the immediate area, and it seems Nintendo finally recognized that.Klopono

Retro Studios has done a pretty good job handling the torch that Rare left behind. Although I wouldn't consider Retro to be on the same level as Rare in their prime, they're still a formidable substitute nonetheless.

How was it not? It sold the most this gen, it has three top selling games with the word 'Wii' in it, and it has an awesome first party collection.

i vote success..it changed the way games are played forever..

Retro Studios has done a pretty good job handling the torch that Rare left behind. Although I wouldn't consider Retro to be on the same level as Rare in their prime, they're still a formidable substitute nonetheless.arkephonic

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The games on the Wii felt unique whether they were "kiddie" or not. It complemented my PC well.

sonicare

I don't have problems with it either which is why I don't mind using the "kiddie" term. We haven't missed a Nintendo console yet and it looks like the WiiU will continue that trend.

I was wondering what MLP was. Then it clicked. :lol: For me, it's Barnie.

It was a BIG success and tht is why I know the Wii U is gonna fail hard. Almost everyone that bought a Wii either hates it, never plays it, or bought it cause one of their friends had it and got bored with it after Wii Sports or Wii Fit.

Those 50 million casuals and soccer moms who were tricked into buying it will not want anything to do with another one. Half of the other buyers are people like me. Over Nintendo IP's or would rather jusy buy the new 720 ,PS4, or PC.

Only the Nintendo die hards will bother with the Wii U. I bet it barely passes the Gamecube in sales.

Wii was a success. Their goal was always to make games for everyone. Just because the neckbeard internet crowd isn't used to having games made for other people, they automatically think it failed. Wii has tons of great games, people are just lazy and don't care to look for them.

The iPod was not successful because I don't have one.

The iPad was not successful because I have one but don't really use it and it's just there collecting dust.

Yes, if you say the Wii was not successful, that's exactly how stupid you sound.

The only real metrics of 'success' we have are sales and critical reception.

In that regard ... the Wii was a success - It's the market leader and it had a lot of games with critical success, ranging from AAA-A titles.

To deny that the Wii was anything but a success would be ignorant in my mind. The system was basically the second coming of the Nintendo Entertainment System, and brought a wide-variety of new people into gaming, created a new way to interact with and control games, has numerous phenominal games, and revived Nintendo's name in the home console scene. The Wii Sold over four times what the Gamecube did and is the highest selling home console this generation. I would argue that is a success.

Definitely won in the sales department and the Wii hit its core audience, which was the casual/newcoming players. Now for the hardcore, that depends on the player his/herself, its all a matter of their own personal opinion.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]Retro Studios has done a pretty good job handling the torch that Rare left behind. Although I wouldn't consider Retro to be on the same level as Rare in their prime, they're still a formidable substitute nonetheless.Klopono

That may be true but if you look at the talent that created those games, most if not all of them are gone from Rare.

. there were some great 3rd party games like tatsunoko vs. capcom and dead space: extraction that were incredibly underratedhelwa1988

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]I've played dozens of Wii games that I would consider to be great, even more that I would consider good. The idea that Wii only has 1st party games, which admittedly are the backbone of its library, is silly. Most of my favorite Wii games are 3rd party developed. ShadowDeathX

A lot of hidden gems on the Wii, similar to the PC. Many of their games aren't super marketed to **** like the PS3 and 360 games.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]Retro Studios has done a pretty good job handling the torch that Rare left behind. Although I wouldn't consider Retro to be on the same level as Rare in their prime, they're still a formidable substitute nonetheless.Klopono

Yeah, Rare had a lot of good games for sure. Although, it did help that Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were using the same engine, and Banjo 1 and 2 / Donkey Kong / Conker were just variations of the same engine, so really that's 6 games using 2 game engines. We're no stranger to developers utilizing 1 game engine to make multiple games, because it is more prevalent than ever in this generation with all the sequels.

It was a BIG success and tht is why I know the Wii U is gonna fail hard.Almost everyone that bought a Wii either hates it, never plays it, or bought it cause one of their friends had it and got bored with it after Wii Sports or Wii Fit.

Those 50 million casuals and soccer moms who were tricked into buying it will not want anything to do with another one. Half of the other buyers are people like me. Over Nintendo IP's or would rather jusy buy the new 720 ,PS4, or PC.

Only the Nintendo die hards will bother with the Wii U. I bet it barely passes the Gamecube in sales.

WarTornRuston

"It was a BIG success and tht is why I know the Wii U is gonna fail hard." Ya you don't know sh!t, sorry.

"Almost everyone that bought a Wii either hates it, never plays it, or brought it cause blah blah blah". Once again, you don't know sh!t, sorry.

"Half of the other buyers are people like me" No, your the only troll that feels that way, sorry.

Yes

It just seems that if you just had a wii, you would have missed out on most of the best titles of this gen.

sonicare

This is the most important thing said and one that I don't think any Wii owner that isn't a delusional fanboy can disagree. Some of the best games in this generation has been multiplat games and nearly all of those best multiplat games have not appeared on the Wii.

The Wii was the best of the three consoles, but that's coming from the viewpoint of a PC gamer.

I've already got a PC for action games, and shooters, and whatnot, and I just don't need the gimped experience the 360/PS3 offer me in that aspect of gaming.

The Wii though....It's a fantastic compliment to PC gaming since the experiences are very different.

Well to say this...the Wii brought something that the HD twins don't really do....smiles and laughter to the games. Last gen my parents never touched a game system at all...because they didn't understand..but when the Wii came along it brought so much laughter in my family...it really brought us together. Thats something my PS3 can't do today. Nintendo has a charm I guess

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It just seems that if you just had a wii, you would have missed out on most of the best titles of this gen.

CajunShooter

This is the most important thing said and one that I don't think any Wii owner that isn't a delusional fanboy can disagree. Some of the best games in this generation has been multiplat games and nearly all of those best multiplat games have not appeared on the Wii.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"]

It just seems that if you just had a wii, you would have missed out on most of the best titles of this gen.

tagyhag

This is the most important thing said and one that I don't think any Wii owner that isn't a delusional fanboy can disagree. Some of the best games in this generation has been multiplat games and nearly all of those best multiplat games have not appeared on the Wii.

I thought it was a general consensus that the Wii was a "complimentary" system, as in, it could never be your 1 and only gaming platform, because there have been so many good multi-platform games on PC/PS3/360 this generation. In my opinion, if you only had a Wii this generation and missed out on the multi-platform games, you missed out on this generation entirely.