WoW won it in 2004, even though their graphics(technically)/physics/AI were vastly inferior to Hl2 and other games released that year.loco145
I was thinking the same thing. Graphics only play a small role in the determination of a GOTY title.Â
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I've only played the gold cartridge (a lot), LttP (haven't finished :P), OoT, and TP.1. The same can be said the opposite way though. GTAIV/RE5/Halo3/MGSIV etc would just be a hella of a lot of worse on the Wii. Why aren't the PS3/360 unique? Why downplay the great effect good graphics can have?
2. Well that's an opinion. I've played a few Zelda titles (6-7 in total I think) and TP wasn't "woah" for me, it wasn't bad either though.
the-very-best
Well, exactly my point! Your business goes both ways! Whoever wins GOTY better damn well innovate out their behind and then some to win. This generation is way too close for anything less.
I'm just saying that the devs will have to be just as creative and good on any of the 3 systems, so why single out the Wii for its lack of graphical capabilities and not the PS3/360 for its lack of (sorry PS3) decent motion sensitive control scheme?Â
I've only played the gold cartridge (a lot), LttP (haven't finished :P), OoT, and TP.
Well, exactly my point! Your business goes both ways! Whoever wins GOTY better damn well innovate out their behind and then some to win. This generation is way too close for anything less.
I'm just saying that the devs will have to be just as creative and good on any of the 3 systems, so why single out the Wii for its lack of graphical capabilities and not the PS3/360 for its lack of (sorry PS3) decent motion sensitive control scheme?
Jandurin
Mainly because of the graphics I suppose.
I mean, it's just a lot harder to be innovative than to create a strong atmosphere with good graphics I suppose.Â
Am I wrong? I just don't see that much innovation in games. I can think of a few that are really ground breaking but there aren't many. That's why I'm singling out the Wii. This isn't DS vs PSP. Wii has much heavier competition.Â
Right. Honestly, did you feel like Gears deserved it? Or Zelda? Games need a big pick-me-up in terms of originality, and I hope the Wii can provide that... because I don't agree with GOTYs very often. Honestly, there are many years where there were just a lot of games that I liked playing, but none that I absolutely loved.I just don't see that much innovation in games. I can think of a few that are really ground breaking but there aren't many. That's why I'm singling out the Wii. This isn't DS vs PSP. Wii has much heavier competition.
the-very-best
The wii should win goty some time but i think grand theft auto will win it, like san andreas won it.
Right. Honestly, did you feel like Gears deserved it? Or Zelda? Games need a big pick-me-up in terms of originality, and I hope the Wii can provide that... because I don't agree with GOTYs very often. Honestly, there are many years where there were just a lot of games that I liked playing, but none that I absolutely loved.
Jandurin
Fair enough, I just didn't want you to get the idea that I'm attacking the Wii because I'm not. I genuinely don't see much innovation in games which is the reason I thought it'd be hard for Wii to get GOTY.
No, I don't think Gears deserved the title. I thought FFXII did because I liked the new battle system and it had a solid story (I've never played Kotor which people say the gameplay was similar to).Â
TP wasn't bad but it wasn't great either (played it on GC). Felt a bit empty to be honest. Â
The wii should win goty some time but i think grand theft auto will win it, like san andreas won it.
footballstar07
San Andreas didn't win GOTY (it should have). I think you mean GTAIII.
And I agree, GTAIV is GOTY 2007. :DÂ
Empty is a decent description. It had empty moments for sure.I thought FFXII did because I liked the new battle system and it had a solid story (I've never played Kotor which people say the gameplay was similar to).
TP wasn't bad but it wasn't great either (played it on GC). Felt a bit empty to be honest.
the-very-best
Didn't get to play FF12 because my PS2 crapped out again :cry:.
Btw:Â This is what your post would look like if you were just flat out bashing the Wii for graphical/aural limitations:
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I seriously doubt it...The machine will have AAA yes
But a GoTY, with that hardware...???
Without awesome graphics, AI, physics, sound?
nope
Giancar
[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Empty is a decent description. It had empty moments for sure.I thought FFXII did because I liked the new battle system and it had a solid story (I've never played Kotor which people say the gameplay was similar to).
TP wasn't bad but it wasn't great either (played it on GC). Felt a bit empty to be honest.
Jandurin
Didn't get to play FF12 because my PS2 crapped out again :cry:.
Btw: This is what your post would look like if you were just flat out bashing the Wii for graphical/aural limitations:
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I seriously doubt it...The machine will have AAA yes
But a GoTY, with that hardware...???
Without awesome graphics, AI, physics, sound?
nope
Giancar
Bashing would be if I state: It won´t even get AAA
I am stating the opposite
Sorry, that´s only my opinion...The 3 last Nintendo GoTY were great due graphics...
This gen will be more than that...And that comes with AI and physics...
Oh, and btw...I am a huge Zelda fan, so don´t come saying that I am a Nintendo haterÂ
[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="footballstar07"]San Andreas didn't win GOTY (it should have). I think you mean GTAIII.The wii should win goty some time but i think grand theft auto will win it, like san andreas won it.
footballstar07
And I agree, GTAIV is GOTY 2007. :DÂ
Oh it didn't, what did by the way, i like the wii and all but i think gta will win it cause ill choose gta over anythingWhen did I say that you were a Nintendo hater?  Your post was just very... timely.so don´t come saying that I am a Nintendo hater
Giancar
I have a feeling that the N GOTYs had more going for them than graphics.Â
Not in 2007 against Spore, Crysis, Bioshock and Mass Effect, which from what we've seen I believe to be the front runners. Short of a miracle I don't see it happening (miracles do happen).
But in the future I'm pretty confidenta Wii game will receive GOTY.Â
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From each Lineup I've seen for 2007 and 2008, I don't see the Wii getting a GOTY compared to the PC/Xbox 360/or PS3 Lineup.
I don't see Mario or MP3 ousting Spore, Crysis, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo 3, MGS4, FFXIII (not a fan of the series though), or GTA 4. Nintendo will have to come up with something grand involving innovation and the remote with these games to even be considered IMO, and the Wiimote has yet to blow me away from "nexgen" controlling.Â
If Zelda couldn't get GOTY considering it was their big hitter, then I can't see Mario Galaxy, MP3, or SSMB either.
Saying that the 360/ps3 have the edge with power would be assuming there are alot of devs out there that can afford to unlock that power, there isnt. The only way this argument would work is if you said PC has an edge over console because it can have any controller and no limitations on graphics.
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The Wii to me has the best chance at getting GOTY as I have heard over and over againthat spore was coming to the Wii. That may not be true anymore it may not have the power to do Spore, at the same time it also has MP3 and the largest yet team of people working on a large scale Smash bros.
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I honestly thing GeoW is a bit over rated as its only winning point with me is how much fun the single player Co-op mode is on harder difficulty. Wanna know how much the Graphics made a difference in my liking of GeoW? Non what so ever, as 2 people own it in my house and they are what you'd call graphic whoores, even for them all they do is b**** that the game is only 8 hours.
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I honestly dont under stand how people think games like GTA and GeoW should get GOTY, they dont have history they dont have the build up and all they strive off is hype. Metroid has fans from back in the early 90's and Metal Gear solid looks like the only game am ready to say has a sure fire shot at GOTY, its got the art, its got the characters, and its got the story. Its also the first game I think should be made into a 3 part trilogy(movie). Its a great story and it should be known to more then just gamers.Â
That's probably going to be what happens, and rightly so, if the games on the PS3/Xbox 360 systems are still great fun to play!I like all 3 consoles lineups but from the Wii's lineup I can only see a few that could be GOTY candidates.
I think if Wii is to get a GOTY the title has to be very unique and innovative, since PS3 and 360 are getting plenty of powerhouses in the coming years. For 2007 Wii has SMG, SSBB and MP3. Without the strong graphics the atmosphere could be lost when compared to a PS3/360 GOTY candidate but Wii could make up for it with its original controls.Â
GOTY 2007 will probably go to either GTAIV, MGSIV, Crysis, Spore, Halo 3 more than likely, depending on whether or not those games are released this year. Next year there is RE5 coming for PS3/360 which could very well take the GOTY title just like RE4 did. There's also FFXIII and White Knight Story. I personally think if Wii is to get a GOTY it's going to be an incredibly innovative title which is just pure fun and makes you forget about the graphics.
Will Wii ever get a GOTY or is the competition just too strong? I'm basically asking will great graphics +Â great gameplay on PS3/360/PC be chosen over average graphics + unique gameplay on the Wii? What do you guys think?
the-very-best
I would rather have great graphics and great gameplay, even if the controls are not entirely original, than average graphics and great gameplay, even if the controls are more original...
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Well lets look at past history.....Nintendo = 2 Gotys last generation.....so I wonder if they have a chance this generation? YES MasterChumlyLast gen they had a console that was at least in the same ballpark as far as graphics and power. This gen the wii has horrrrrrrrrible graphics and is incredibly weak in comparison to the ps3 and xbox. The only way on earth the wii could win game of the year is if it put out a game with greatest story of all time along with perfect gameplay, and originality. Wii games will be compared to ps3 and 360 games, and when that comparison is made the ps3 and 360 are going to be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo far ahead. The wii has way to much ground to make up for its lack of power.
[QUOTE="MasterChumly"]Well lets look at past history.....Nintendo = 2 Gotys last generation.....so I wonder if they have a chance this generation? YES tylerdurden2621Last gen they had a console that was at least in the same ballpark as far as graphics and power. This gen the wii has horrrrrrrrrible graphics and is incredibly weak in comparison to the ps3 and xbox. The only way on earth the wii could win game of the year is if it put out a game with greatest story of all time along with perfect gameplay, and originality. Wii games will be compared to ps3 and 360 games, and when that comparison is made the ps3 and 360 are going to be soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo far ahead. The wii has way to much ground to make up for its lack of power.
Probably true.
If Nintendo was producing games of a quality that was head and shoulders above the competition, as they did in the SNES era, then there would definately be a chance, but these days many other developers are producing games that easily match the quality of Nintendo's own efforts and some even surpass them e.g. Halo Vs Metroid IMO or Final Fantasy XII Vs Twightlight Princess etc.
Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, SSBB etc are going to have to be VERY special games indeed to beat out the likes of Halo 3 and GTAIV and all the other massive games coming to the PS3 and Xbox 360. Something similar to Windwaker, Metroid Prime 2 or Mario Sunshine will not cut it in my opinion...
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Spore in 2007 and hardly anything really known about 2008... no I do not see any of the consoles getting GOTY's anytime soon.This is what I actually agree with. The Wii (and the other consoles) will need to deal with the PC more this gen.
I am actually expecting PC to dominate the GOTY for the next few years.
foxhound_fox
Funny...here i thought the Wii will most likely get a GOTY than the PS3/360 because it's brought in something new to the gaming scene.
But then again, it's all opinions. Wii already has a GOTY with Zelda from many other sites. GS doesn't. To single out a platform and ask whether it will ever get e GOTY just screams fanboyism...
But then again, opinions...
I'm sure a lot of people disagree with the GOTY winners anyway.Â
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