Does anyone else consider a 7 or below the quota for a game to flop?

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#1 Just-Breathe
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I've seen here on Gamespot and quite a few other sites users calling games which score under 9.0 or have gotten a great 8.5 score "flops". Even I've seen the few ungrateful people who think even a 9.0 isn't enough.

I always thought a game which scores 7 or below a dissapointment, but even then I think they are still worth playing. Does anyone else feel like a 7.0 or below is the quota for a "flop"?

Oh, and I also know people use the term "flop" to describe games which don't meet the hype, but 9.0 seems to be the "flop" quota on here.

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#2 lundy86_4
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A flop on System Wars is when a game fails to match or exceed the level of hype (measured using official hype threads and votes of AAAA/AAA/AA/A).

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#3 Lucianu
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No, i think a game scoring lower than what it was hyped, be it AA, AAA, or AAAA, is a flop. And because people like you tend to take it a bit more seriously than people that are just having fun, this flop game will most likely continue forever. I don't mind it though. Unlike some, i play what i want. A game below 7 isn't a dissapointment, i decide for my self if i'm dissapointed in what i'm playing or not.

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#4 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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That is not the definition of a flop. :?
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#5 MushroomWig
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7 is still a great score but if the hype is big then it's considered a flop.
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#6 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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To me a game flops when it is released as a broken mess technically or is so bad with gameplay that it is unplayable. Things like Dragon Age 2 was a gameplay mess while Dungeon Siege is a technical mess. I've never used scores to determine this because I tend to like the niche stuff that isn't even reviewed but the rest of SW's likes to.

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#7 Just-Breathe
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7 is still a great scoreMushroomWig
Not according to the users of System Wars. It seems like its 9.0 or bust.

For me, score doesn't neccessarily matter. I had more fun playing Kung Fu Panda than I did GTA IV.

I just felt like asking a simple question.

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#8 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]7 is still a great scoreJust-Breathe

Not according to the users of System Wars. It seems like its 9.0 or bust.

For me, score doesn't matter. I had more fun playing Kung Fu Panda than I did GTA IV.

I just felt like asking a simple question.

The why did you just ignore the other posts outlining what a flop is? It's been stated what a flop is above ^^

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The 100 or 10 point review system needs to die.. Anything really below a 7 is not worth getting in less its heavily patched.. Why does our system have 6 different shades of crap in it? So we can know just how much we should not buy the game? They need to use a 5 star system.. 1 star being bad, 2 star being average, 3 star good, 4 star great, and 5 star amazing.. These need to be rough estimates.. Even the .5 system Gamespot uses is stupid.. Whats the difference between a 8.0 and 8.5? Whats the difference between a 8.5 and a 9.0? How are they coming to these conclusions with such exact numbers?
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#10 ianuilliam
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I consider a 7.5 or below a flop. If the Hype was AA or higher. If the Hype was AAA, I consider an 8.5 or below a flop.

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#11 lamprey263
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Dante's Inferno only got a 6.5 and I enjoyed it more than God of War 3, though God of War 3 is a commercial and critical success I liked Dante's Inferno more because even though it borrowed heavily from God of War it did it right, whereas God of War 3 staff without David Jaffe seemed to forget what made those games great, and that to me is great boss fights stuffed full of challenging filler combat in between. A 7 or below may just be a critical and commercial failure, as far as I'm concerned a good game is a good game and though reviews do have some influence on me trying things, once I try them I think I'm at least able to figure out if it's worth a damn or not. One could just as easily discover a lower rated game is actually fun just as well as discovering a highly critically acclaimed commercial success was a big waste of their time and money.
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I think the fact that people see a 7.0 as the bottom range of playable games is the biggest problem with Gamespot's current rating system.
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#13 Lto_thaG
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A flop on System Wars is when a game fails to match or exceed the level of hype (measured using official hype threads and votes of AAAA/AAA/AA/A).

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Yeah,people should really now this if they're posting on SW. It's a SW thing.
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#14 TrapJak
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Anything below a 7 is technically the flop procedure. But I've seen games get below 7 that deserv 9's.

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#15 lundy86_4
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Yeah,people should really now this if they're posting on SW. It's a SW thing.Lto_thaG

It's explained in either Mac or Sub's thread about System Wars. Nobody will ever read them though :P

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#16 Just-Breathe
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The why did you just ignore the other posts outlining what a flop is? It's been stated what a flop is abovelundy86_4
If you read this which I put in the OP:
Oh, and I also know people use the term "flop" to describe games which don't meet the hype, but 9.0 seems to be the "flop" quota on here.Just-Breathe
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]The why did you just ignore the other posts outlining what a flop is? It's been stated what a flop is aboveJust-Breathe
If you read this which I put in the OP:
Oh, and I also know people use the term "flop" to describe games which don't meet the hype, but 9.0 seems to be the "flop" quota on here.Just-Breathe

I certainly did read that, and yet knowing this, you created the thread. Furthermore, you still failed to understand a little later in the thread. 9.0 has never been the line in which we draw a flop. I can only assume you are looking in threads where the hype is AAA and yet games score AA or lower.

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#18 doubalfa
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I finds it funny as I have enjoyed and favored a lot of GS's 8.5s over GS's 9s
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#19 ianuilliam
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If you read this which I put in the OP:[QUOTE="Just-Breathe"]Oh, and I also know people use the term "flop" to describe games which don't meet the hype, but 9.0 seems to be the "flop" quota on here.Just-Breathe

Yeah, but if you understand that SW defines a flop by whether it meets hype, then what's the point of the thread? You said

I've seen here on Gamespot and quite a few other sites users calling games which score under 9.0 or have gotten a great 8.5 score "flops". Even I've seen the few ungrateful people who think even a 9.0 isn't enough.Just-Breathe
The only time people here call 8-8.5 games a flop here (at least, witout being corrected) is if the Hype was set at AAA.

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#20 Lucianu
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The 100 or 10 point review system needs to die.. Anything really below a 7 is not worth getting in less its heavily patched.. Why does our system have 6 different shades of crap in it? So we can know just how much we should not buy the game? They need to use a 5 star system.. 1 star being bad, 2 star being average, 3 star good, 4 star great, and 5 star amazing.. These need to be rough estimates.. Even the .5 system Gamespot uses is stupid.. Whats the difference between a 8.0 and 8.5? Whats the difference between a 8.5 and a 9.0? How are they coming to these conclusions with such exact numbers?sSubZerOo

I think they should scrap this score system alltogether be it a star or whatever, and focus on a written review, including a video review. Sorta like what Classic Game Room got going, or other review channels. But this will never happen, scoring stuff is rooted in people.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]The 100 or 10 point review system needs to die.. Anything really below a 7 is not worth getting in less its heavily patched.. Why does our system have 6 different shades of crap in it? So we can know just how much we should not buy the game? They need to use a 5 star system.. 1 star being bad, 2 star being average, 3 star good, 4 star great, and 5 star amazing.. These need to be rough estimates.. Even the .5 system Gamespot uses is stupid.. Whats the difference between a 8.0 and 8.5? Whats the difference between a 8.5 and a 9.0? How are they coming to these conclusions with such exact numbers?Lucianu

I think they should scrap this score system alltogether be it a star or whatever, and focus on a written review, including a video review. Sorta like what Game Classic Room got going, or other review channels. But this will never happen, scoring stuff is rooted in people.

Its the easiest way to compare..

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#22 Just-Breathe
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I can only assume you are looking in threads where the hype is AAA and yet games score AA or lower.lundy86_4
I guess so :?

Seems like i made a mistake

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#23 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]I can only assume you are looking in threads where the hype is AAA and yet games score AA or lower.Just-Breathe

I guess so :?

Seems like i made a mistake

Haha, it's no big deal. I apologize if I cam off like an **** I wasn't meant to :P

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#24 Just-Breathe
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I apologize if I cam off like an **** I wasn't meant to :Plundy86_4
Ah, don't worry about it.