Does anyone really think Arkham City is a GOTY contender?

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#1 cyclops10
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If so, why exactly? The setting, detail, atmoshphere are all FANTASTIC, if going on that alone, then yes, easily a contender.

But based on the content? A short, basic horrible story? Redundent uninspired sidequests? It's a shame those parts of the game don't live up to the rest.

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#2 mrmusicman247
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A short, basic horrible story? Redundent uninspired sidequests?

cyclops10

These don't compute. Explain these please.

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#3 cyclops10
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The story must have taken about 5 minutes to write, given some of the great Batman stories over the years, it's trash. The sidequests are uninspired, basic, by the numbers and boring.
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#4 mrmusicman247
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You're not stating why the story is bad. And which side missions are you talking about?
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#5 Bigboi500
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I think any game that scores a 9.0 or higher on GS has a chance, but if big games coming up like Skyrim, Skyward Sword and Unchared 3 score 9.0 or higher it seems unlikely.

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#6 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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Short, basic horrible story? Did I miss something? Arkham City has an incredible story, and you'll know that if you follow Batman. And it's not short. 15 hours is not short. Side quests are in no way redundant and uninspired. They add a LOT to the replay value and longevity of the game. According to me, Arkham City, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Gears of War 3 and Pokemon Black/White are the only GOTY contenders till now.
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#7 cyclops10
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Short, basic horrible story? Did I miss something? Arkham City has an incredible story, and you'll know that if you follow Batman. And it's not short. 15 hours is not short. Side quests are in no way redundant and uninspired. They add a LOT to the replay value and longevity of the game. According to me, Arkham City, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, Gears of War 3 and Pokemon Black/White are the only GOTY contenders till now.

15 hours? lol. I did it in 8.
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#8 LazyMushroom
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Of couse it has a chance but there are some awesome games still to be released this year. I honestly think Skyrim will be GOTY.

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#9 TrapJak
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Even though I'd give it an 8/10, it's definetly a GOTY contender.

Just becasue you don't think so, doesn't mean others don;t.

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#10 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="cyclops10"]

A short, basic horrible story? Redundent uninspired sidequests?

mrmusicman247

These don't compute. Explain these please.

Yeah, this. The story is great, and the ending is probably the best ending in a game I've seen. There's so much to do. I'm 20+ hours in and I'm only 59% through.
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#11 foxhound_fox
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Seems like you never played the game. I could ask the same question of any highly hyped game this year.
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#12 savagetwinkie
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You're not stating why the story is bad. And which side missions are you talking about?mrmusicman247
The plot jumps from one villian to the next where it doesn't seem to have a good focus, it just feels like the overal story is to run around beating down criminals this time around, where the last time it was always about joker.
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#13 KiZZo1
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The game is godly. If this doesn't have a chance for GOTY I don't know what has ...

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#15 foxhound_fox
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The plot jumps from one villian to the next where it doesn't seem to have a good focus, it just feels like the overal story is to run around beating down criminals this time around, where the last time it was always about joker.savagetwinkie
There is a very clear over-arching storyline involving Hugo Strange. :|
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#16 THEGoD1
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Im gonna have to disagree with you on your view of the side quests. Everytime I started a new one I was always interested and strived to finish it completly. The story mode also I feel is far from short. Compared to some of the games they release now a days the story seemed like a long fufilling ride to me especiallly when youre working on side quests too. And dont even get me started on the ending of it all. It was honestly one of the best Ive ever seen. I was over come with so many emotions and I couldnt stop thinking about it even when the credits stopped rolling. Arkham City is the best superhero game hands down, and one of the best games in general in history I believe. This game will have a really good shot at GOTY.

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#17 todd2r
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The game is godly. If this doesn't have a chance for GOTY I don't know what has ...

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Agreed. It's my GOTY right now. I'm taking my time and enjoying every second of it.
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#18 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]You're not stating why the story is bad. And which side missions are you talking about?savagetwinkie
The plot jumps from one villian to the next where it doesn't seem to have a good focus, it just feels like the overal story is to run around beating down criminals this time around, where the last time it was always about joker.

All of the criminals were connected to each other. Thereby connecting the story.
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#19 soapman72
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I have read almost all the BAtman Comics and stories I literally have a room with only batman stuff in it and I have to say you are dumb. The story is great and the side missions are well side missions.

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#20 soapman72
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]You're not stating why the story is bad. And which side missions are you talking about?mrmusicman247
The plot jumps from one villian to the next where it doesn't seem to have a good focus, it just feels like the overal story is to run around beating down criminals this time around, where the last time it was always about joker.

All of the criminals were connected to each other. Thereby connecting the story.

Wow someone really likes just reapeting what IGN says...

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#21 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]You're not stating why the story is bad. And which side missions are you talking about?mrmusicman247
The plot jumps from one villian to the next where it doesn't seem to have a good focus, it just feels like the overal story is to run around beating down criminals this time around, where the last time it was always about joker.

All of the criminals were connected to each other. Thereby connecting the story.

So it was stupid, the story wasn't engaging like the first at all, the plot tried to go in different directions and the relationships between batman and villians were held by a thread at best. Everything was loosely connected by weak story elements and it just ended up being kind of all over the place. The joker should have been left out pretty much.
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It's a great game, so I think BAC should be a contender at least. I haven't yet finished it, but so far, have to say that story is a little bit predictable. Okay, it is really predictable. I'm still enjoying it.

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#23 Lief_Ericson
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Well based on overall ratings it is the best reviewed game of 2011

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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] The plot jumps from one villian to the next where it doesn't seem to have a good focus, it just feels like the overal story is to run around beating down criminals this time around, where the last time it was always about joker.

All of the criminals were connected to each other. Thereby connecting the story.

So it was stupid, the story wasn't engaging like the first at all, the plot tried to go in different directions and the relationships between batman and villians were held by a thread at best. Everything was loosely connected by weak story elements and it just ended up being kind of all over the place. The joker should have been left out pretty much.

Were you paying attention to the story? It was really engaging. It never tried to go in different directions. It was all in one direction. Which was to stop Hugo Strange.
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#25 foxhound_fox
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The joker should have been left out pretty much.savagetwinkie
Now I know you haven't made it very far at all into the story.
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] The plot jumps from one villian to the next where it doesn't seem to have a good focus, it just feels like the overal story is to run around beating down criminals this time around, where the last time it was always about joker.soapman72

All of the criminals were connected to each other. Thereby connecting the story.

Wow someone really likes just reapeting what IGN says...

I never saw or read IGN's review.
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I do like the game but I don't think it wll be GOTY with all the other games coming out this year.....I mean come on...SKYRIM
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#28 Big_Pecks
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It's a great game, but I don't think it will be a top 5 contender. Maybe top 10.

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#29 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] Were you paying attention to the story? It was really engaging. It never tried to go in different directions. It was all in one direction. Which was to stop Hugo Strange.

Umm except that hugo was always kind of there an not really the problem, half the game you got side tracked dealing with the joker.. again
[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]The joker should have been left out pretty much.foxhound_fox
Now I know you haven't made it very far at all into the story.

I beat it, the joker was tacked on i think, and while the ending was good, i still think the plot was kind of directionless through part of it. Both the joker/huo were kind of an afterthought through most of the game after you got poisned and just went from one criminal to the next beating them down to get a cure. I think the story ended up being weak because the plot lead you on a tour of criminals just for the sake of showing some faces.
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[ I beat it, the joker was tacked on i think, and while the ending was good, i still think the plot was kind of directionless through part of it. Both the joker/huo were kind of an afterthought through most of the game after you got poisned and just went from one criminal to the next beating them down to get a cure. I think the story ended up being weak because the plot lead you on a tour of criminals just for the sake of showing some faces.savagetwinkie

What are you talking about? [spoiler] Joker was behind Batman getting poisoned in the first place. [/spoiler]

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#31 Vickman178
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I actually thought Arkham Asylum was better, the game flowed much better then Arkham City does and I felt more satisfied when I beat it, Arkham City ends so quickly your just like WTF just happened?

EDIT: Its still a really good game and will probably get a couple nominations, but as for me the only game I want to play the most is Zelda SS, EDGE gave it a 10/10 which has sparked my hype/interest even higher!

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It has combat, stealth, and explortion all done at a level few other games can boast. I don't just think Arkham City is the game of 2011, but of the entire generation. A true masterpiece in video game design. I cannot think of one aspect the game is lacking in. It is without a doubt the pinnacle of the action adventure genre at the moment.

I think it is one of the very few games out there that deserves a 10/10 score. The game is extremely ambitious and at the same time polished to as near perfect sheen as any game ever was. I stand in awe of this game

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#33 mrmusicman247
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Umm except that hugo was always kind of there an not really the problem, half the game you got side tracked dealing with the joker.. againsavagetwinkie

Again what are you talking about. [spoiler] The first 10 minutes of the game Batman said his mission was to find out why Hugo was running Arkham City [/spoiler]

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#34 SquirrelTamer
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Noez lol cause It's a batman game. I don't like Batman. Except sometimes.

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#35 rasengan2552
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how can a title over AA with the best reviews not be a GOTY contender ???

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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] All of the criminals were connected to each other. Thereby connecting the story. mrmusicman247
So it was stupid, the story wasn't engaging like the first at all, the plot tried to go in different directions and the relationships between batman and villians were held by a thread at best. Everything was loosely connected by weak story elements and it just ended up being kind of all over the place. The joker should have been left out pretty much.

Were you paying attention to the story? It was really engaging. It never tried to go in different directions. It was all in one direction. Which was to stop Hugo Strange.

please put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] So it was stupid, the story wasn't engaging like the first at all, the plot tried to go in different directions and the relationships between batman and villians were held by a thread at best. Everything was loosely connected by weak story elements and it just ended up being kind of all over the place. The joker should have been left out pretty much.meatgrinderz

Were you paying attention to the story? It was really engaging. It never tried to go in different directions. It was all in one direction. Which was to stop Hugo Strange.

please put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

There are no spoilers in what I said. Or what he said.
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The game is short yes, but horrible story? No way. And the sidequests are best left until the end I think, they're a nice expansion on the game and introduce some new villains too which is great.
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Yes but it won't win.

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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] I beat it, the joker was tacked on i think, and while the ending was good, i still think the plot was kind of directionless through part of it. Both the joker/huo were kind of an afterthought through most of the game after you got poisned and just went from one criminal to the next beating them down to get a cure. I think the story ended up being weak because the plot lead you on a tour of criminals just for the sake of showing some faces.mrmusicman247

What are you talking about?

no **** but it was pointless instead of focusing on the new villions they added a stupid plot device to force your to treck around and see other vilians, while the main story was put on hold for the most part, I don't see why joker had to be in this one, it just watered down all the new characters which is why i think its a bad plot.

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[QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] Were you paying attention to the story? It was really engaging. It never tried to go in different directions. It was all in one direction. Which was to stop Hugo Strange. mrmusicman247

please put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

There are no spoilers in what I said. Or what he said.

What you wrote is a spoiler. Pleease put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]please put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

meatgrinderz

There are no spoilers in what I said. Or what he said.

What you wrote is a spoiler. Pleease put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

its not a spoiler since you its established in the opening cutscene
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="meatgrinderz"]please put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

meatgrinderz

There are no spoilers in what I said. Or what he said.

What you wrote is a spoiler. Pleease put spoilers in spoiler tags, thanks.

How that a spoiler? It was known that Hugo Strange was going to be a major villain in this game.

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#44 UnrealLegend
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Horrible Story? Arkham City easily has one of the best stories in modern gaming.

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#45 Skreltch
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Because the first one got GOTY and this one is even better, especially the pc version with all the extra love going into it from the devs's. Pretty simple to understand.

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#46 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] I beat it, the joker was tacked on i think, and while the ending was good, i still think the plot was kind of directionless through part of it. Both the joker/huo were kind of an afterthought through most of the game after you got poisned and just went from one criminal to the next beating them down to get a cure. I think the story ended up being weak because the plot lead you on a tour of criminals just for the sake of showing some faces.savagetwinkie

What are you talking about?

no **** but it was pointless instead of focusing on the new villions they added a stupid plot device to force your to treck around and see other vilians, while the main story was put on hold for the most part, I don't see why joker had to be in this one, it just watered down all the new characters which is why i think its a bad plot.

How was that a stupid plot device? I don't understand how seeing the different villains in AA is better than it was in AC.
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#47 Avian005
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I honestly can't see how the story was unfocused.

All the villians, excluding side missions, are connected to the main story. They're not there without a reason.