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#1 Trixstar99
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I just wondered . At the moment people are like beautiful colors , great graphics , graphics king but if you are colorblind then it doesnt matter so much . You only care about gameplay .

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#2 Silverbond
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Do people with no hands care about gameplay? No, because they can only look at the game and can only care about the graphics.

I don't understand your point, TC.

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#3 ImprovedMind
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The terrible jaggies that infest nearly all PS3 games will be there even if you are colour blind. Fully blind people are the ones who wouldn't care about graphics.

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#4 Animal-Mother
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I just wondered . At the moment people are like beautiful colors , great graphics , graphics king but if you are colorblind then it doesnt matter so much . You only care about gameplay .

Trixstar99
lol what. So if people are colorblind they can't care about graphics?
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#5 VanDammFan
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The terrible jaggies that infest nearly all PS3 games will be there even if you are colour blind. Fully blind people are the ones who wouldn't care about graphics.

ImprovedMind

Must point me to these horrible jaggies in nearly all ps3 games. I must be blind. AND if we slow down any game on any platform we'll see some jaggies so your comment is BUNK bro...or should I say...your comment is FANBOY bro..

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#6 Upparoom
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The terrible jaggies that infest nearly all PS3 games will be there even if you are colour blind. Fully blind people are the ones who wouldn't care about graphics.

ImprovedMind

Wut? Is this 2007 :|

Do colorblind people care about graphics? Do deaf people care about sound design?

Does it really matter what people with disabilities obviously won't be able to notice? Besides, I think a better term would just be blind, TC. Colorblind people can usually still see some colors.

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#7 -Snooze-
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I just wondered . At the moment people are like beautiful colors , great graphics , graphics king but if you are colorblind then it doesnt matter so much . You only care about gameplay .

Trixstar99

They can still fully appreciate former(console) Graphics King like Gears Of War and Killzone, so why not?

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#8 lundy86_4
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Why not? If i'm correct, isn't colourblindness where they mix up colours (i.e. what is Green is seen as different). Furthermore, they're not blind and would still be able to make out other details.

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#9 Animal-Mother
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Why not? If i'm correct, isn't colourblindness where they mix up colours (i.e. what is Green is seen as different). Furthermore, they're not blind and would still be able to make out other details.

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They can mix up color. like the sky can be green and the ocean red. Or you can have a complete lack of color
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#10 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="ImprovedMind"]

The terrible jaggies that infest nearly all PS3 games will be there even if you are colour blind. Fully blind people are the ones who wouldn't care about graphics.

Upparoom

Wut? Is this 2007 :|

Do colorblind people care about graphics? Do deaf people care about sound design?

Does it really matter what people with disabilities obviously won't be able to notice? Besides, I think a better term would just be blind, TC. Colorblind people can usually still see some colors.

Perception can change anything. For Colour Blind people to imagine what you and I see would be impossible, but who's to say what we're seeing is what's actually on screen?

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#11 BrunoBRS
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color blind people mix two colors. they don't see in black and white (at least most of them), and even then it's different. set your TV color to 0, then play, say, uncharted 2 and then play mario 64. see?
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#12 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why not? If i'm correct, isn't colourblindness where they mix up colours (i.e. what is Green is seen as different). Furthermore, they're not blind and would still be able to make out other details.

Animal-Mother

They can mix up color. like the sky can be green and the ocean red. Or you can have a complete lack of color

Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

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Retro gamers don't care much about graphics the way these people do, if you're looking for a group of people.

But even retro you can have people drooling about pixel-art etc.

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#14 xX-Incubus-Xx
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I'd just like to point out that something like 75% of all men are color blind to some degree. For myself it's a slight red/green blindness and yes I can still see and appreciate all these colors and graphics. I can't see certain shaeds of red and green and some deep, dark blues look purple or vice-versa.

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#15 Vader993
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most color blind people see most color,its only couple of color they can't see:?

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#16 Trixstar99
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If they're fully colorblind then at least they dont complain about bad graphics if the overall picture is nice .

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#17 YoBrandino
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Yeah, there are different types of color blindness, and sometime they just mix colors. But more comonly they just can't differentiate some colors based on shades. There are a tiny few games that have colorblind modes too. Like Hexic HD and some cell phone game I was playing the other day did too.
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#18 lundy86_4
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I'd just like to point out that something like 75% of all men are color blind to some degree. For myself it's a slight red/green blindness and yes I can still see and appreciate all these colors and graphics. I can't see certain shaeds of red and green and some deep, dark blues look purple or vice-versa.

xX-Incubus-Xx

I also have a red/green colour deficiency. It rears it's ugly head only a few times, but each time it irks me :x

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http://www.ablegamers.com/game-news/2009-accessible-game-of-year-dragon-age-origins.html Some devs actually do....
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#20 Cherokee_Jack
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Half the Giant Bomb staff is colorblind and it doesn't seem to inhibit their appreciation of graphics any.
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#21 jasonharris48
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TC, you do realise people are color blind do not see in black & white right?

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I'd just like to point out that something like 75% of all men are color blind to some degree. For myself it's a slight red/green blindness and yes I can still see and appreciate all these colors and graphics. I can't see certain shaeds of red and green and some deep, dark blues look purple or vice-versa.

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Also when you get older it gets harder to see some colors and Yellow is one of the first that older people start to have trouble seeing.

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#23 Heil68
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Often, the symptoms may be so mild that some persons do not know they are color blind. Even with that they could prob still tell if a game "looks" even without color.
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#24 BTBAM127
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I just wondered . At the moment people are like beautiful colors , great graphics , graphics king but if you are colorblind then it doesnt matter so much . You only care about gameplay .

Trixstar99

colourblind =/= resolution blind. maybe the people who have very poor blurry vision? do they care?

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#25 edo-tensei
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I don't think they play videogames.....

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#26 TheColbert
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They just play Killzone 2.
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#27 donalbane
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I just wondered . At the moment people are like beautiful colors , great graphics , graphics king but if you are colorblind then it doesnt matter so much . You only care about gameplay .

Trixstar99
My friend is colorblind, and since his limited perception of the color spectrum has been constant his whole life, he has no idea that it's an impairment really. And he likes nice graphics same as anyone else.
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a friend of mine has small level of colorblindness, he has dificulty diferentiating two colors (I think it's green and blue) and he built a new PC just for crysis
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#29 Sp4rtan_3
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What the....I dont even...:|

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#30 Sp4rtan_3
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They just play Killzone 2. TheColbert
:lol: perfect answer.
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I don't think they play videogames.....

edo-tensei

What!? I'm color blind and I play video games and I also paint. Like I said earlier people who are color blind do not see in black & white (we don't share the same vision of a dog).

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#32 alexside1
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Why is this topic in system wars?
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#33 edo-tensei
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

I don't think they play videogames.....

What!? I'm color blind and I play video games and I also paint. Like I said earlier people who are color blind do not see in black & white (we don't share the same vision of a dog).

I stand corrected.
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

I don't think they play videogames.....

jasonharris48

What!? I'm color blind and I play video games and I also paint. Like I said earlier people who are color blind do not see in black & white (we don't share the same vision of a dog).

What type of colorblindness do you have, just out of curiosity.
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#35 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Trixstar99"]

I just wondered . At the moment people are like beautiful colors , great graphics , graphics king but if you are colorblind then it doesnt matter so much . You only care about gameplay .

BTBAM127

colourblind =/= resolution blind. maybe the people who have very poor blurry vision? do they care?

there's this fancy thing with people that have miopia (blurry vision for distant objects... distant as in "3ft or more away") called "glasses" or "contact lenses". it's pretty neat.
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

I don't think they play videogames.....

jasonharris48

What!? I'm color blind and I play video games and I also paint. Like I said earlier people who are color blind do not see in black & white (we don't share the same vision of a dog).

Well people who has total color blindness are seeing only in black & white . I dont mean some other kind color blindness . And I dont think you are total color blind because you said you paint . How do you know what color to paint sky if you dont see colors ? Green sky and blue land ?

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#37 slothboyadvance
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Just because you're colorblind, it doesn't mean you can't see and perceive detail. Therefore, they can still care about the graphics.

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#38 jwsoul
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Why not? If i'm correct, isn't colourblindness where they mix up colours (i.e. what is Green is seen as different). Furthermore, they're not blind and would still be able to make out other details.

lundy86_4
As far as i am aware yes. It usually Reds Greens and Browns.
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#39 PAL360
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So...are graphics only about colors? Damn, i presume KZ and Gears of War are the worst looking games available!!!

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#40 Serraph105
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They could just play Gears of War :P

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#41 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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If you want to experience what they see, play some Killzone 2.

(A joke, people! A joke!)

Edit: Weh.. a somewhat similar joke posted before.

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#42 deactivated-5f6dd6241fdcc
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[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

I don't think they play videogames.....

jasonharris48

What!? I'm color blind and I play video games and I also paint. Like I said earlier people who are color blind do not see in black & white (we don't share the same vision of a dog).

Dogs don't see in black & white. I'm just sayin' :P

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#43 YoBrandino
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[QUOTE="wapahala"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]

I don't think they play videogames.....

What!? I'm color blind and I play video games and I also paint. Like I said earlier people who are color blind do not see in black & white (we don't share the same vision of a dog).

Dogs don't see in black & white. I'm just sayin' :P

Yeah, dogs can see color. Its more limited and dulled, but they see color.
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You do realise that that colour blindness is very common in males and that most never realise that they have it? 99% of people that are colourblind see colours very similarly to you, it's just that certain colours are not QUITE as vivid, making it harder for colourblind people to tell the difference in certain circumstances.

If you can't EASILY and CLEARLY see the number 45 in the above circle, you have a form of colour blindness.

If you can't see the number 56EASILY and CLEARLY, you are colourblind.

Most colourblind people can see all the different colour dots, but they can't see the hidden number because certain colours do not appear as vividly as they should. But it is only very slight and, aside from these tests, it will never impact on their life.

Interestingly, many birds of prey have red green colour blindness (most common form in humans) and scientists think this helps them see through camouflage... so you could argue that some people with colour blindness actually have better vision in some circumstances.

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#45 DragonfireXZ95
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Colorblind people aren't actually color blind... It's not like they see in black and white.
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Colourblind and colour impaired are different - the number of people who are legitimately colourblind are very few. I've only known one myself. I have a form of red/green colourblindness, though. It can be annoying in some games where they colour the teams red and green. It can be amusing and harmless, like Fallout 3 and New Vegas, where the 'amber' colour scheme really doesn't look all that different from Fallout 3's green. And it can be helpful, like in Space Giraffe, because I've gotten used to using shapes and movement to identify objects over the years rather than colour, because some shades of red and green and brown, and blue and purple look identical to me (also grey and some pinks, depending on the lighting). Some games (such as Perfect Dark Zero) have colourblind toggles to switch up team colours or make them shades that aren't so similar, which is a nice touch. But most of the time it's never an issue.
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You do realise that that colour blindness is very common in males and that most never realise that they have it? 99% of people that are colourblind see colours very similarly to you, it's just that certain colours are not QUITE as vivid, making it harder for colourblind people to tell the difference in certain circumstances.

If you can't EASILY and CLEARLY see the number 45 in the above circle, you have a form of colour blindness.

If you can't see the number 56EASILY and CLEARLY, you are colourblind.

Most colourblind people can see all the different colour dots, but they can't see the hidden number because certain colours do not appear as vividly as they should. But it is only very slight and, aside from these tests, it will never impact on their life.

thetruespin

Yeah... I can't see the 45, but I can see the 56 very clearly. I already knew I was colorblind, it's mild though.

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

You do realise that that colour blindness is very common in males and that most never realise that they have it? 99% of people that are colourblind see colours very similarly to you, it's just that certain colours are not QUITE as vivid, making it harder for colourblind people to tell the difference in certain circumstances.

If you can't EASILY and CLEARLY see the number 45 in the above circle, you have a form of colour blindness.

If you can't see the number 56EASILY and CLEARLY, you are colourblind.

Most colourblind people can see all the different colour dots, but they can't see the hidden number because certain colours do not appear as vividly as they should. But it is only very slight and, aside from these tests, it will never impact on their life.

DragonfireXZ95

Yeah... I can't see the 45, but I can see the 56 very clearly. I already knew I was colorblind, it's mild though.

Yeah, there are different forms, so some people will pass some tests and fail others. I can't see the number either, but interestingly I can if I tilt my laptop screen (being an LCD it must distort the colours enough for me to see the "hidden image").

But there is a HUGE amount of ignorance about colour blindness, despite being very common. I also get annoyed that colourblind people are automatically excluded from certain jobs, even if they have a very mild form. You would never get away with that if it were any other type of disability.

For example, I cannot be a commercial airline pilot simply because I have mild colourblindness. A friend of mine who has poor eyesight would be allowed to be a pilot, provided he could pass a test that demonstrated that his sight was "good enough". For colour blind people it is a simple ban... no test... no case by case.... just a blanket ban.

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But there is a HUGE amount of ignorance about colour blindness, despite being very common. I also get annoyed that colourblind people are automatically excluded from certain jobs, even if they have a very mild form. You would never get away with that if it were any other type of disability.thetruespin
We can generally see better in the dark than people who aren't colourblind, and videogames come more naturally to us - part of the benefit of not always relying on colours to identify objects.