Does everyone forget that GTA4 was universally considered dissapointing?

Back when Gta4 first came out it was universally received by most gamers as "overrated", "the worst GTA ever", " a step in the wrong direction". basically most people didn't like Gta4 because it took away everything that made San Andreas and Vice City so great. Personally I still own the game but have never got around to finish it. I'll probably buy the expansions down the road if I decide to actually finish Gta4.

The point of this is, that now that theres 2 exclusive DLC episodes, theres Lems coming out from all places, yet they are likely the very same people who hated or were dissapointed by Gta4.

Universally? Yeah Im sorry youre wrong. The ONLY people who were disapointed with GTA4 were PC gamers for the first months after the PC release and people who thought that GTA4 should be San Andreas.

I liked GTA4...and I liked the PC version the best...

I'm sure the ridiculous large amounts of people who play it online when like to have a word with you...as well as the rave reviews it receivedrattler1990

Can you find me the link showing where every gamer voted on this so that it was as you say a universal opinion?

The episodes are superior, especially BoGT. That game brings back more character and excitement to GTA. Parasomniac

[QUOTE="rattler1990"]I'm sure the ridiculous large amounts of people who play it online when like to have a word with you...as well as the rave reviews it receivedbeekayjay

Yes, to me it was.

These expansions however are superior, especially TBoGT.

GTA IV >>>>>>> San Andreas big time for me.

Not universally, but to me, it was very dissappointing. And it was probably my most hyped game this gen =(

Lemmings dont have many games to brag about this year with their poor lineup so... :lol:

GTA 4>>Vice City>>>>3>>>>>>>>San Andreas

If it wasn't for Galaxy, GTA 4 would be my GOTG.

I hate when people try to project their opinion onto everybody.

Sure, there is a big segment that hated the direction GTA4 took the series, but there was an equally big segment that loved it. And the reviews pretty much speak for themselves.

[QUOTE="beekayjay"][QUOTE="rattler1990"]I'm sure the ridiculous large amounts of people who play it online when like to have a word with you...as well as the rave reviews it receivedMidnightshade29

Why do you have such a big chip on your shoulder?

Because this is system wars, a war which is decided by Gamespot's review scores. And Episodes from Liberty City scored well, therefore Lemmings has won a "battle" in the war. Whether they actually like the game has nothing to do with it.

GTA 4>>>>Vice City>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>San Andreas If it wasn't for Galaxy, GTA 4 would be my GOTG.mo0ksi

Agreed. Except I wouldn't put as much > signs between the games.

GTA IV >>>>>>> San Andreas big time for me.

_TheJoker_

I agree with that... no doubt... I hated San Andreas. But, Vice City >>> GTA 3 >>> GTA IV >>>>>>>>>>> GTA San Andreas.

Sure GTA IV was an improvement in many ways over Vice City & GTA III... but it just lacked FUN FACTOR for me... and that damned cell phone.... RAWR, I want to smash it.

The story was great in GTA4 and the gameplay was much better, but I was still dissapointed. The environment was smaller and not as interresting as GTA-SA, the city is pretty boring after a while. They removed alot of the features they had in the GTA games on the PS2, like tanks, planes, semi-trucks, parachutes, and the ability to customize your character. I am waiting for a similar GTA game to GTA-SA, though we probably won't see anything of it this generation because of the X360's DVD format. This generation is all about DLC and milking.

[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

GTA IV >>>>>>> San Andreas big time for me.

whatisazerg

I agree with that... no doubt... I hated San Andreas. But, Vice City >>> GTA 3 >>> GTA IV >>>>>>>>>>> GTA San Andreas.

Sure GTA IV was an improvement in many ways over Vice City & GTA III... but it just lacked FUN FACTOR for me... and that damned cell phone.... RAWR, I want to smash it.

There were some things that GTAIV lacked in comparison to the others: mainly mission variety. It seemed like there was ALOT more shooting. The reason I didn't have a problem with that is that the shooting mechanic itself is worlds beyond what was offered in the PS2 GTA's. If the shooting mechanic is so much better, it makes sense to use it more often. I just wish that there are more inventive missions next iteration. Sure, there were alot of outstanding missions (Truck Hustle, To Live or Die in Alderney, Three Leaf Clover, Flatline, the job interview mission, Undertaker, The Snow Storm, the mission where Gracie is kidnapped, the Playboy X mission that is located at the construction site, the mission in which you Rescue Roman, Museum Piece, etc. I could go on and on), but some missions did seem to be a bit redundant (I noticed that there were way too many bike missions). Still, I don't think I could go back to the shooting mechanics in the PS2 games. They don't feel refined enough.

GTAIV is just more graceful than the other games. And I for one loved that they driving actually had some weight to it.

Another plus is that GTAIV was really quite pretty considering that it was a GTA game (which are usually not lookers). The lighting, architecture, and car models in that game is amazing.

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]GTA 4>>>>Vice City>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>San Andreas If it wasn't for Galaxy, GTA 4 would be my GOTG.Tragic_Kingdom7

Agreed. Except I wouldn't put as much > signs between the games.

Lemmings dont have many games to brag about this year with their poor lineup so... :lol:

aroxx_ab

Another great thing about GTAIV was the dialogue and voice acting. I think that GTAIV might have the greatest dialogue and voice acting of any game this gen.

Back when Gta4 first came out it was universally received by most gamers as "overrated", "the worst GTA ever", " a step in the wrong direction". basically most people didn't like Gta4 because it took away everything that made San Andreas and Vice City so great. Personally I still own the game but have never got around to finish it. I'll probably buy the expansions down the road if I decide to actually finish Gta4.

The point of this is, that now that theres 2 exclusive DLC episodes, theres Lems coming out from all places, yet they are likely the very same people who hated or were dissapointed by Gta4.

bokiloki

I liked GTA4...and I liked the PC version the best...

schu

GTA:SA > GTA:VC > GTA4 > GTA3

I didn't even finish GTA4, it was just very boring to me.

I'm sure if i had played it longer, and bough the DLC id feel different about it though, but i have it for the Trey, and don't feel like buying it again.

Lemmings dont have many games to brag about this year with their poor lineup so... :lol:

aroxx_ab

I loved it. Peoples reaction to GTAIV just makes me laugh. Fundamentally, it's the same as all the other GTA games, but people say it's not as good as San Andreas or Vice City. Most of the time, people say they stopped playing because they didn't like the way the cars handled. The car handling in GTAIV isn't bad, it's just different. It takes time to adapt to this change. Maybe most people expect to be able to do everything perfectly as soon as they start playing a game? Maybe people have been spoiled by games becoming too easy? I don't know, and to be honest, I don't care. While you're complaining like a spoiled child about the little things that annoy you, I'm concentrating on the good qualities and really enjoying the game. GTAIV is one of the best games to be released in the generation IMO. The DLC is awesome too.x-2tha-z

What do you mean by "universally considered dissapointing"? Imo its one of the best games this gen and thankfully ratings are with me. I have yet to play Episodes from Liberty City but im sure they are even better.

No its not. Cows are just dissapointed that it didn't stay exclusive. Lets see how they act when Final Fantasy 13 comes out.

After playing GTA4 and realizing how bored I was I decided to approach it without my previous GTA mentality and I began to realise it is the best GTA ever made. I wouldn't give it a 10 because of many flaws which annoyed the crap out of me, but the game is definitely between a 9.0 and a 9.5. Also I applaud rockstar for actually making a good story.

GTA4 is disappointing for two reasons. 1. Its not exclusive to the PS3 (lol) and 2. Its got exclusive packs for the 360. Boy, sure must be fun to be a cow :lol:Nidget

Yeah somehow I have a sneaking suspicion that you hit the nail right on the head...GTAIV sucks to PS3 fanboys who are upset that they can't get the DLC on their deity.

If the DLC was available on the PS3, the fanboys would be saying how it is graphically so far ahead of what is on the 360, and we would see 20 new posts about it's greatness everyday.

I'm sure this post will see at least one "Lemmings always talk about how great Halo 3 is, but it sucks" comment.

[QUOTE="Nidget"]GTA4 is disappointing for two reasons. 1. Its not exclusive to the PS3 (lol) and 2. Its got exclusive packs for the 360. Boy, sure must be fun to be a cow :lol:coasterguy65

Yeah somehow I have a sneaking suspicion that you hit the nail right on the head...GTAIV sucks to PS3 fanboys who are upset that they can't get the DLC on their deity.

If the DLC was available on the PS3, the fanboys would be saying how it is graphically so far ahead of what is on the 360, and we would see 20 new posts about it's greatness everyday.

I'm sure this post will see at least one "Lemmings always talk about how great Halo 3 is, but it sucks" comment.

"Their deity". :lol: