Does it matter that the 360 is making much more of a profit compared to the PS3?

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#1 PrimusGears
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Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.
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#2 Zerual
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Sales shouldn't matter to you.
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Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.PrimusGears

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Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.PrimusGears

It means that if you want to make money, you better release your game on the 360.

If a developer is crazy enough to make an exclusive, they better release that title on the xbox if they want to make mucho dinero.

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#6 joopyme
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no, unless your an investor of microsoft or a desperate fanboy.
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I do not get why fanboys care so much about sales or if one wins or doesn't.
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Sales shouldn't matter to you.Zerual

Yes they should. More sales for a console/it's games mena more developers will make games for that console.
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#9 gashinji
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Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.PrimusGears

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[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.darkslider99

Yes they should. More sales for a console/it's games mena more developers will make games for that console.

It seemed to matter last Gen

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#11 Zerual
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[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.Pimpshigity21

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

Ok what does that have to do with what I said? I simply stated that gamers shouldn't worry about what game sells more.

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#12 PrimusGears
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.Zerual

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

Ok what does that have to do with what I said? I simply stated that gamers shouldn't worry about what game sells more.

Why does that have to be the case?

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How much money does it lose because of RROD and law suits?
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#14 Omni-Wrath
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Yes if games sell better on 360 the games go to the 360. Same reason why FF13 went on 360 sales.
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#15 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.Zerual

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

Ok what does that have to do with what I said? I simply stated that gamers shouldn't worry about what game sells more.

It does matter to me. If a developer makes lots of money on the 360, they will likely invest on that platform again and again. They will continue to make the 360 the lead platform...and they will be ever so reluctant to create a PS3 exclusive.

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#17 Zerual
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[QUOTE="Zerual"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.PrimusGears

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

Ok what does that have to do with what I said? I simply stated that gamers shouldn't worry about what game sells more.

Why does that have to be the case?

Because sales =/= Better game

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why would a consumer care about sales? all the consumer should care about is if theyre having fun.
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[QUOTE="PrimusGears"][QUOTE="Zerual"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.Zerual

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

Ok what does that have to do with what I said? I simply stated that gamers shouldn't worry about what game sells more.

Why does that have to be the case?

Because sales =/= Better game

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

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no, unless your an investor of microsoft or a desperate fanboy.joopyme

You didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

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#21 Zerual
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[QUOTE="Zerual"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.Pimpshigity21

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

Ok what does that have to do with what I said? I simply stated that gamers shouldn't worry about what game sells more.

It does matter to me. If a developer makes lots of money on the 360, they will likely invest on that platform again and again. They will continue to make the 360 the lead platform...and they will be ever so reluctant to create a PS3 exclusive.

That doesn't matter to me.

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[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.Pimpshigity21

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

I think "silly" describes most if not all of your posts here on SW thus far.
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#23 Zerual
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why would a consumer care about sales? all the consumer should care about is if theyre having fun.Sword-Demon

Exactly.

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#24 joopyme
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[QUOTE="joopyme"]

no, unless your an investor of microsoft or a desperate fanboy.Hexagon_777

You didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

how complicated can the videogame industry be to a gamer like me?

why should i care? even if i did, what can i do?

i just buy their unreliable consoles, and play their awesome games, and hopefully have fun with it.

you really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

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#25 Ragnarok1051
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Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

gashinji

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

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#26 gashinji
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[QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

Ragnarok1051

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

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Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

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#27 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

gashinji

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

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Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

and what does that fact prove? that people buy games... other than that, its meaningless

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#28 Zerual
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

gashinji

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

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Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

And that's why you shouldn't worry about sales.

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#29 gashinji
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[QUOTE="gashinji"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

Sword-Demon

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

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Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

and what does that fact prove? that people buy games... other than that, its meaningless

-100

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#30 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="joopyme"]

no, unless your an investor of microsoft or a desperate fanboy.joopyme

You didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

how complicated can the videogame industry be to a gamer like me?

why should i care? even if i did, what can i do?

i just buy their unreliable consoles, and play their awesome games, and hopefully have fun with it.

you really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

How complicated it can be? Judging from what you said...very. You implied that only investors and desperate fanboys are interested in sales. It appears that you are incapable of grasping the simple concept of more sales leading to more games, thus why a gamer should be interested in sales. Then again, going by your logic, gamers shouldn't be interested in games.

Oh, and using my own words against me in a feeble attempt to retaliate...Not very original.

My conclusion? You really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

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#31 KGB32
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it matters to devs and publishers
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#32 gashinji
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[QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="joopyme"]

no, unless your an investor of microsoft or a desperate fanboy.Hexagon_777

You didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

how complicated can the videogame industry be to a gamer like me?

why should i care? even if i did, what can i do?

i just buy their unreliable consoles, and play their awesome games, and hopefully have fun with it.

you really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

How complicated it can be? Judging from what you said...very. You implied that only investors and desperate fanboys are interested in sales. It appears that you are incapable of grasping the simple concept of more sales leading to more games, thus why a gamer should be interested in sales. Then again, going by your logic, gamers shouldn't be interested in games.

Oh, and using my own words against me in a feeble attempt to retaliate...Not very original.

My conclusion? You really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

He had every right to show

-4000 Points

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#33 Ragnarok1051
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He had every right to show

-4000 Points

gashinji

Let me guess you're just trying to get your post count up with post like these and stupid topics that you delete?

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#34 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="gashinji"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

gashinji

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

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-

-

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Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

and what does that fact prove? that people buy games... other than that, its meaningless

-100

....?

are you trying to make a point?

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#35 gashinji
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[QUOTE="gashinji"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

Zerual

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

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Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

And that's why you shouldn't worry about sales.

Post Excepted

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#36 gashinji
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[QUOTE="gashinji"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="gashinji"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

Sword-Demon

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

-

-

-

-

Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

and what does that fact prove? that people buy games... other than that, its meaningless

-100

....?

are you trying to make a point?

-500 Points Deducted

Keep it up, if you want, your loss.

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#37 joopyme
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[QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="joopyme"]

no, unless your an investor of microsoft or a desperate fanboy.Hexagon_777

You didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

how complicated can the videogame industry be to a gamer like me?

why should i care? even if i did, what can i do?

i just buy their unreliable consoles, and play their awesome games, and hopefully have fun with it.

you really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

How complicated it can be? Judging from what you said...very. You implied that only investors and desperate fanboys are interested in sales. It appears that you are incapable of grasping the simple concept of more sales leading to more games, thus why a gamer should be interested in sales. Then again, going by your logic, gamers shouldn't be interested in games.

Oh, and using my own words against me in a feeble attempt to retaliate...Not very original.

My conclusion? You really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

what's your problem dude?

what i said was my opinion because im a gamer and heck of course i know that patronizing games specifically game developers, so in the future it would lead to more, possible better games and so forth, etc....

it was just a ONE liner, i didnt even give out the details and you just mindlessly bash on a one liner?

bolded statement, your reading comprehension is really starting to tick me off.

i said i buy console, i buy games, i play the games, i try to have fun out of those games.

why should i complicate things? you want me to buy the same game or the games that these devs make so i expect better games in the future?

i'm only one video gamer, if you're not satisfied with that then i guess that's your problem.

You really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.-that's not my job, if it's yours, then godspeed.

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#38 gashinji
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[QUOTE="gashinji"]

He had every right to show

-4000 Points

Ragnarok1051

Let me guess you're just trying to get your post count up with post like these and stupid topics that you delete?

-100,000,000Point Deducted

Keep it up and you won't have any left to share with Sword-Demon.

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#39 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

He had every right to show

-4000 Points

gashinji

Let me guess you're just trying to get your post count up with post like these and stupid topics that you delete?

-100,000,000Point Deducted

Keep it up and you won't have any left to share with Sword-Demon.

Well I guess I got it right.

1 trillion deducted from you. You lose.

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Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.PrimusGears

I don't know about sales but RFOM2 kills gow.....60 players online for RFOM2 vs 10 for gow....LOL AND YOU PAY FOR THAT CRAP.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="gashinji"][QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="gashinji"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="gashinji"]

Because

Sales = Fact

Better Games = Opinion

gashinji

Sales do not automatically mean a better game.

I didn't say sales mean a better game

Sales = Fact

-

-

-

-

Better Games = Opinion, Because Not Every One Will Think The Game is Good

and what does that fact prove? that people buy games... other than that, its meaningless

-100

....?

are you trying to make a point?

-500 Points Deducted

Keep it up, if you want, your loss.

lol, points? is that supposed to make me feel bad?

ok ok.. im sorry oh mighty point deductor, can you please grant me my imaginary points back? pretty please?

get over yourself

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Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.PrimusGears

Sales have no effect on gamers.

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#43 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="joopyme"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="joopyme"]

no, unless your an investor of microsoft or a desperate fanboy.joopyme

You didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

how complicated can the videogame industry be to a gamer like me?

why should i care? even if i did, what can i do?

i just buy their unreliable consoles, and play their awesome games, and hopefully have fun with it.

you really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

How complicated it can be? Judging from what you said...very. You implied that only investors and desperate fanboys are interested in sales. It appears that you are incapable of grasping the simple concept of more sales leading to more games, thus why a gamer should be interested in sales. Then again, going by your logic, gamers shouldn't be interested in games.

Oh, and using my own words against me in a feeble attempt to retaliate...Not very original.

My conclusion? You really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.

what's your problem dude?

what i said was my opinion because im a gamer and heck of course i know that patronizing games specifically game developers, so in the future it would lead to more, possible better games and so forth, etc....

it was just a ONE liner, i didnt even give out the details and you just mindlessly bash on a one liner?

bolded statement, your reading comprehension is really starting to tick me off.

i said i buy console, i buy games, i play the games, i try to have fun out of those games.

why should i complicate things? you want me to buy the same game or the games that these devs make so i expect better games in the future?

i'm only one video gamer, if you're not satisfied with that then i guess that's your problem.

You really didn't have to show everyone how little you know regarding the videogaming industry by saying that.-that's not my job, if it's yours, then godspeed.

So you are a hypocrite now? You know the truth but at the same time call everybody else who thinks so an investor or a desperate fanboy? Good going.

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#44 Zhengi
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How does it make more profits for companies when there are many that are reporting loses or closing studios down? If you want to go with revenue, then at least call it revenue, not profits.
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#45 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.Gaming_Guru_Guy

Sales have no effect on gamers.

A real gaming guru would say otherwise. Are you an imposter?

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[QUOTE="Gaming_Guru_Guy"][QUOTE="PrimusGears"]

Whats GS take on this? Does MS get any credit that it outsells the PS3 in multiplats? Also games like Fable 2 outsell LBP and Gears of War obliterates Resistance 2. Discuss.Hexagon_777

Sales have no effect on gamers.

A real gaming guru would say otherwise. Are you an imposter?

I am actually interested in hearing you flesh out this thought.

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#47 mbrockway
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[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.darkslider99

Yes they should. More sales for a console/it's games mena more developers will make games for that console.

Because of course thats working for the Wii, right?

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#48 Pimpshigity21
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[QUOTE="Zerual"]Sales shouldn't matter to you.nervmeister

LOL

Tell that to the developers that have millions of dollars invested in one software title.

Your post is silly...just too silly.

I think "silly" describes most if not all of your posts here on SW thus far.

LMFAO...another angry SW fanboy. Watch out for those ulcers, angryboy.
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#49 Eltroz
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I think it is funny how people say sales do not matter on system wars when the way of judging what console wins the console race is the one that sold the most. How often is it brought up how many PS2s were sold.

Also sales of software does matter because if a game sells very well on one console then the developers will know it is a smart choice to put all their future game son that console. The other way is though if games do not sell well on a console developers will not be as worried about exclusives on that console and will not spend as much money and man hours on ports of games to that platform.

If no one cared about sales then the NPD and weekly Japan sales threads would not get any post but instead they get many pages of posts.

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#50 ExtremeOne316
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yeah it matters because Microsoft shareholders are no longer worried about the company's involment in video games since they are making a profit on the Xbox brand