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#1 pimpog
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I have not not heard anything from them in some time after the stamper brothers left ??

They should make a new killer instinct update like how goldeneye got updated I would but the 360 just for that.

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#2 MonsieurX
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Yes,they're still owned by Microsoft.
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#3 madmidnight
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I think they made Kinect Adventures, and Kinect Sports. Also they made the avatars, which were updated with the new dashboard. I want a Kinect Viva Pineta
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#4 JuarN18
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They just releasedkinect sports and it's not that bad

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#5 Deathtransit
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They're Kinect devs now.
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#6 pimpog
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They're Kinect devs now.Deathtransit
How the mighty have fallen.

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#7 gamer-adam1
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Rare Fell because of Nintendo

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#8 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]They're Kinect devs now.pimpog

How the mighty have fallen.

to be fair, the majority of the mighty people behind rare leaved a long time ago
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#9 monkeysmoke
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Now they are through with kinect sports i hope they move in to a bigger project like Killer Instinct 3 or Perfect Dark 2. A Perfect Dark 2 with an updated graphic engine will be an awsome win!!
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#10 Dahaka-UK
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Rare have been reduced to creating avatars and shovelware now. It's sad but true.

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#11 Nega3
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They're Kinect devs now.Deathtransit
This unfortunately. :(
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#12 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]They're Kinect devs now.pimpog

How the mighty have fallen.

Yes, being an integral part of one of the largest companies in the world is such a "step down"

Nintendo dumped them thinking they were done and they're more valuable now then ever

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#13 LegatoSkyheart
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Rare has abandoned the Games they made their Fans love so much for Casual Mii Ripoffs.

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#14 Jaysonguy
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Rare has abandoned the Games they made their Fans love so much for Casual Mii Ripoffs.

LegatoSkyheart

That's why the redid Perfect Dark from the ground up just to give fan service?

Really?

You actually just posted that they abandoned things?

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#15 madmidnight
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Rare has abandoned the Games they made their Fans love so much for Casual Mii Ripoffs.

Jaysonguy

That's why the redid Perfect Dark from the ground up just to give fan service?

Really?

You actually just posted that they abandoned things?

RARE didn't develop the remake. Learn before you dis other users.
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#16 dRuGGeRnaUt
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Rare have been reduced to creating avatars and shovelware now. It's sad but true.

Dahaka-UK
7.5 for casual games is ANYTHING but shovelware.. Just cause people on here don't like kinect doesn't mean its bad. It's just for different people. I love how everyone on here TRULY believes that if they don't like something, it shouldnt exist. The reviews are out for kinect, and everyone is trying it, and also saying it is awesome. EVEN all the haters. I wish the same could be said about Move, because i thought that was going to do waaaay better. But everyone claims its just an evolved wii controller. As it stands, kinect will be HUGE this xmas, and with that boost, microsoft will have that much more revenue to throw around.. hopefully for some GOOD exclusives, and first party devs. MS hasnt aquired any devs in a while. Ive wondered why, but I think they are waiting to see how the rest of this gen fairs.
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#17 theuncharted34
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Banjo kazooie : Nuts and bolts was a great game I thought. A far cry though, from their n64 efforts.

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#18 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Rare has abandoned the Games they made their Fans love so much for Casual Mii Ripoffs.

Jaysonguy

That's why the redid Perfect Dark from the ground up just to give fan service?

Really?

You actually just posted that they abandoned things?

I hardly call a Reskin, "a ground up" effort.

btw who made Perfect Dark XBLA?

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#19 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Rare has abandoned the Games they made their Fans love so much for Casual Mii Ripoffs.

madmidnight

That's why the redid Perfect Dark from the ground up just to give fan service?

Really?

You actually just posted that they abandoned things?

RARE didn't develop the remake. Learn before you dis other users.

It's Rare's game

They're the ones that wanted it out and they're the ones that let it be redone and released for their fans

So yes, they did it

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#20 LegatoSkyheart
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It's Rare's game

They're the ones that wanted it out and they're the ones that let it be redone and released for their fans

So yes, they did it

Jaysonguy

yet, That's all they are doing for their Fans.

Just Rereleasing old stuff.

Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts was an abomination to the Banjo Kazooie series, Perfect Dark Zero didn't live up to it's predicessor, There's no Killer Instinct 3 or another Battletoads, or heck....Conker for that matter.

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Banjo kazooie : Nuts and bolts was a great game I thought. A far cry though, from their n64 efforts.

theuncharted34
i had so much fun with that game, if only they could combine the building with the destruction of a game like red faction guerrilla and a little more action but still in an open world, you'd have a ridiculously fun game.
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#23 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Banjo kazooie : Nuts and bolts was a great game I thought. A far cry though, from their n64 efforts.

savagetwinkie

i had so much fun with that game, if only they could combine the building with the destruction of a game like red faction guerrilla and a little more action but still in an open world, you'd have a ridiculously fun game.

If only they made the game into...I don't know....A PLATFORMER AND NOT A GUMMI SHIP RACING GAME?

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#24 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

It's Rare's game

They're the ones that wanted it out and they're the ones that let it be redone and released for their fans

So yes, they did it

LegatoSkyheart

yet, That's all they are doing for their Fans.

Just Rereleasing old stuff.

Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts was an abomination to the Banjo Kazooie series, Perfect Dark Zero didn't live up to it's predicessor, There's no Killer Instinct 3 or another Battletoads, or heck....Conker for that matter.

An 8 everywhere isn't an abomination, same for Perfect Dark

Battletoads? One of the worst games of all time with one part of the game completely broken?

You want more broken games? No they're done with Nintendo, they don't have to suffer through N's cost cutting moves to recoup losses anymore.

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#25 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]They're Kinect devs now.Jaysonguy

How the mighty have fallen.

Yes, being an integral part of one of the largest companies in the world is such a "step down"

Nintendo dumped them thinking they were done and they're more valuable now then ever

you call making games that almost any talentless dev could make "integral" and "valuable"? sure, they're making a profit for MS, but their game quality is nowhere near what it used to be. I would call that a step down
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#26 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="madmidnight"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

That's why the redid Perfect Dark from the ground up just to give fan service?

Really?

You actually just posted that they abandoned things?

oldkingallant

RARE didn't develop the remake. Learn before you dis other users.

Oh Jayson. You only occasionally post here but every time you do you somehow manage to say something incredibly stupid I also doubt Rare is more valuable than ever and Nintendo didn't just "dump" them. Rare was undoubtedly more valuable (if you take into account inflation over the past 10 years) in the Goldeneye, Conker's, DKC, Banjo-Kazooie and Perfect Dark days than they are now. Nintendo sold them to Microsoft for a pretty decent sum of cash. It was a good move, Rare had become progressively worse, some people may like Kameo and Nuts & Bolts but they are undoubtedly a step down from previous efforts, and now they're making Kinect party games.

i loved viva pinata, n&b, and kameo, and they made some party games but I believe rare has more then one studio doesn't it? They might be making some kinect titles but to think they completely abandoned making core games is pretty dumb

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#27 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Banjo kazooie : Nuts and bolts was a great game I thought. A far cry though, from their n64 efforts.

LegatoSkyheart

i had so much fun with that game, if only they could combine the building with the destruction of a game like red faction guerrilla and a little more action but still in an open world, you'd have a ridiculously fun game.

If only they made the game into...I don't know....A PLATFORMER AND NOT A GUMMI SHIP RACING GAME?

still, the game is great regardless of how much better a true bk platformer would have been.

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#28 LegatoSkyheart
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An 8 everywhere isn't an abomination, same for Perfect Dark

Battletoads? One of the worst games of all time with one part of the game completely broken?

You want more broken games? No they're done with Nintendo, they don't have to suffer through N's cost cutting moves to recoup losses anymore.

Jaysonguy

an 8 isn't an abomination, but Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts, WAS NOT the Banjo Kazooie game I was waiting for. Perfect Dark Zero I haven't played yet, but to my Knowledge Perfect Dark N64 scored higher.

Battletoads is a Rare IP and there hasn't been a game sense the SNES days? What happened?

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#29 Dahaka-UK
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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]

Rare have been reduced to creating avatars and shovelware now. It's sad but true.

dRuGGeRnaUt
7.5 for casual games is ANYTHING but shovelware.. Just cause people on here don't like kinect doesn't mean its bad. It's just for different people. I love how everyone on here TRULY believes that if they don't like something, it shouldnt exist. The reviews are out for kinect, and everyone is trying it, and also saying it is awesome. EVEN all the haters. I wish the same could be said about Move, because i thought that was going to do waaaay better. But everyone claims its just an evolved wii controller. As it stands, kinect will be HUGE this xmas, and with that boost, microsoft will have that much more revenue to throw around.. hopefully for some GOOD exclusives, and first party devs. MS hasnt aquired any devs in a while. Ive wondered why, but I think they are waiting to see how the rest of this gen fairs.

I couldn't care less as a gamer about the needs of casual gamers, they only contribute to nothing but shallow simplistic games that require zero effort to make. You've wondered why MS hasn't bothered with exclusives lately? Thats quite simple.. They don't need to. Casuals will provide the majority income whilst hardcore can be pleased by Halo and Gears alone. That ain't gonna change any time soon. Sorry to say but MS is ignoring you.
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#30 Nonstop-Madness
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The magic of Rare left a long time ago. Rare isn't what it use to be but I won't blame MS.
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#31 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="pimpog"] How the mighty have fallen.

Sword-Demon

Yes, being an integral part of one of the largest companies in the world is such a "step down"

Nintendo dumped them thinking they were done and they're more valuable now then ever

you call making games that almost any talentless dev could make "integral" and "valuable"? sure, they're making a profit for MS, but their game quality is nowhere near what it used to be. I would call that a step down

Again, their games are still in the 8's everywhere

Nintendo doesn't do cutting edge, they aim for casuals and children so they let Rare take care of the cutting edge and were rewarded for it then Nintendo through that they could do cutting edge and let Rare go and they failed to make up the losses. Rare isn't cutting edge anymore but they're still one of the best in the business and Microsoft trusted them to be the framework of everything the 360 is now.

The idea that they're somehow making bad products isn't true, a company in the console race does not turn to a weak company and then base everything on what they design

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#32 -The-G-Man-
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Microsoft doesn't have Rare. they have a company called Rare
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#33 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Banjo kazooie : Nuts and bolts was a great game I thought. A far cry though, from their n64 efforts.

LegatoSkyheart

i had so much fun with that game, if only they could combine the building with the destruction of a game like red faction guerrilla and a little more action but still in an open world, you'd have a ridiculously fun game.

If only they made the game into...I don't know....A PLATFORMER AND NOT A GUMMI SHIP RACING GAME?

well it wasn't a racing game, they had racing in it yes, but it was more about, here is something you need to accomplish, build something to accomplish that objective, any way you feel like it, I spent like a day just for 1 objective just making the most ridiculous things i possibly could, and it was just to launch your character as far as you could. I like platformers but banjo was something special if you really got into the building. I was surprised with some of the contraptions you could make, how much stuff you could put in it. It's my personal favorite for this gen so far.
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#34 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

An 8 everywhere isn't an abomination, same for Perfect Dark

Battletoads? One of the worst games of all time with one part of the game completely broken?

You want more broken games? No they're done with Nintendo, they don't have to suffer through N's cost cutting moves to recoup losses anymore.

LegatoSkyheart

an 8 isn't an abomination, but Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts, WAS NOT the Banjo Kazooie game I was waiting for. Perfect Dark Zero I haven't played yet, but to my Knowledge Perfect Dark N64 scored higher.

Battletoads is a Rare IP and there hasn't been a game sense the SNES days? What happened?

I liked it so high five for Rare not doing what you wanted, personal taste does not distinguish good or bad

Perfect Dark scored lower, it's not like one scored in the 9's and one scored in the 6's

What happened to Battletoads? It was a bad game, Do you also want CheetahMen to make a comeback?

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#35 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yes, being an integral part of one of the largest companies in the world is such a "step down"

Nintendo dumped them thinking they were done and they're more valuable now then ever

Jaysonguy

you call making games that almost any talentless dev could make "integral" and "valuable"? sure, they're making a profit for MS, but their game quality is nowhere near what it used to be. I would call that a step down

Again, their games are still in the 8's everywhere

Nintendo doesn't do cutting edge, they aim for casuals and children so they let Rare take care of the cutting edge and were rewarded for it then Nintendo through that they could do cutting edge and let Rare go and they failed to make up the losses. Rare isn't cutting edge anymore but they're still one of the best in the business and Microsoft trusted them to be the framework of everything the 360 is now.

The idea that they're somehow making bad products isn't true, a company in the console race does not turn to a weak company and then base everything on what they design

did you even play Nintendo games back in the N64 days? because it really doesn't seem like it...
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"] you call making games that almost any talentless dev could make "integral" and "valuable"? sure, they're making a profit for MS, but their game quality is nowhere near what it used to be. I would call that a step down-The-G-Man-

Again, their games are still in the 8's everywhere

Nintendo doesn't do cutting edge, they aim for casuals and children so they let Rare take care of the cutting edge and were rewarded for it then Nintendo through that they could do cutting edge and let Rare go and they failed to make up the losses. Rare isn't cutting edge anymore but they're still one of the best in the business and Microsoft trusted them to be the framework of everything the 360 is now.

The idea that they're somehow making bad products isn't true, a company in the console race does not turn to a weak company and then base everything on what they design

did you even play Nintendo games back in the N64 days? because it really doesn't seem like it...

what was your favorite rare game on the n64? for me it would have to be banjo Tooie :)

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#37 mitu123
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Yes, and they need to do more with them, they spent 375 million on them after all.

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#38 -The-G-Man-
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[QUOTE="-The-G-Man-"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Again, their games are still in the 8's everywhere

Nintendo doesn't do cutting edge, they aim for casuals and children so they let Rare take care of the cutting edge and were rewarded for it then Nintendo through that they could do cutting edge and let Rare go and they failed to make up the losses. Rare isn't cutting edge anymore but they're still one of the best in the business and Microsoft trusted them to be the framework of everything the 360 is now.

The idea that they're somehow making bad products isn't true, a company in the console race does not turn to a weak company and then base everything on what they design

theuncharted34

did you even play Nintendo games back in the N64 days? because it really doesn't seem like it...

what was your favorite rare game on the n64? for me it would have to be banjo Tooie :)

bizarre as it sounds, I was in love with Blast Corps
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#39 XanderZane
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I have not not heard anything from them in some time after the stamper brothers left ??

They should make a new killer instinct update like how goldeneye got updated I would but the 360 just for that.

pimpog
RARE is the developers who did the avatars and the Kinect games. So yes, they are still here. Supposely they are working on KI3 and Perfect Dark Zero 2.
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#40 Sword-Demon
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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

Yes, being an integral part of one of the largest companies in the world is such a "step down"

Nintendo dumped them thinking they were done and they're more valuable now then ever

Jaysonguy

you call making games that almost any talentless dev could make "integral" and "valuable"? sure, they're making a profit for MS, but their game quality is nowhere near what it used to be. I would call that a step down

Again, their games are still in the 8's everywhere

Nintendo doesn't do cutting edge, they aim for casuals and children so they let Rare take care of the cutting edge and were rewarded for it then Nintendo through that they could do cutting edge and let Rare go and they failed to make up the losses. Rare isn't cutting edge anymore but they're still one of the best in the business and Microsoft trusted them to be the framework of everything the 360 is now.

The idea that they're somehow making bad products isn't true, a company in the console race does not turn to a weak company and then base everything on what they design

Their games practically defined the 5th gen. their current games are by no means bad, but they're miles from where they used to be, and not even close to the best in the business.
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#41 Dahaka-UK
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If you wanna talk scores then that just proves current RARE is a shadow of it's former self.

Donkey Kong 64 (N64) 9.0

Banjo-Kazooie (N64) 9.5

Banjo-Tooie (N64) 9.6

Conker's Bad Fur Day (N64) 9.3

GoldenEye 007 (N64) 9.8

Perfect Dark (N64) 9.9

Indeed, RARE in it's prime people.

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#42 theuncharted34
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do you want to know something? Nintendo replaced RARE with retro studio's, and haven't looked back :)

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

An 8 everywhere isn't an abomination, same for Perfect Dark

Battletoads? One of the worst games of all time with one part of the game completely broken?

You want more broken games? No they're done with Nintendo, they don't have to suffer through N's cost cutting moves to recoup losses anymore.

Jaysonguy

an 8 isn't an abomination, but Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts, WAS NOT the Banjo Kazooie game I was waiting for. Perfect Dark Zero I haven't played yet, but to my Knowledge Perfect Dark N64 scored higher.

Battletoads is a Rare IP and there hasn't been a game sense the SNES days? What happened?

I liked it so high five for Rare not doing what you wanted, personal taste does not distinguish good or bad

Perfect Dark scored lower, it's not like one scored in the 9's and one scored in the 6's

What happened to Battletoads? It was a bad game, Do you also want CheetahMen to make a comeback?

says you! i cant believe you just put battletoads in the same category as cheetahmen. wow...

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#44 LegatoSkyheart
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To Jayson guy.

vs

Quality sure looks like it went down a bit.

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#46 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]They're Kinect devs now.JuarN18

How the mighty have fallen.

to be fair, the majority of the mighty people behind rare leaved a long time ago

yeah the only major dev left from there N64 games to my knowledge is Greg Mayles, and he was recently replaced as the head of Rareanyways, so I can see him possibly leaving as well

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#47 pimpog
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I just saw the old rare games and it just made me sad to see how far the company has fallen.

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#48 campzor
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="Deathtransit"]They're Kinect devs now.Jaysonguy

How the mighty have fallen.

Yes, being an integral part of one of the largest companies in the world is such a "step down"

Nintendo dumped them thinking they were done and they're more valuable now then ever

how do you figure... us gamers are suffering whilst they are doing wonders for MS... where havnt they stepped down?
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#49 rcafan
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Rare Fell because of Nintendo

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no rare fell cause they kept delying there games and took to long to bring games out. and this why nintendo sold them and they were not as good as in the old days when many of derveloprs went onto work with time splitter.
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#50 rcafan
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

Rare has abandoned the Games they made their Fans love so much for Casual Mii Ripoffs.

Jaysonguy

That's why the redid Perfect Dark from the ground up just to give fan service?

Really?

You actually just posted that they abandoned things?

:lol: they didn't do perfect dark remake... if your going to be a lemming do it right.