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Why do they care?
I mean they are not pushing 360 as a movie player like SOny with blu ray.
Whats going on?
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Both companies have two very different objectives. Sony wants the PS3 as the entertainment centre. It was meant for chatting, news, weather, movies, music and gaming. Microsoft wants their XBOX 360 to be mainly a gaming centre with entertainment on the "sideline". This is why Sony is pushing Bluray like mad and Microsoft isn't doing the same with the HD-DVD. gnutuxhttp://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158163
Why do they care?
I mean they are not pushing 360 as a movie player like SOny with blu ray.
Whats going on?
PSP107
Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
 Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
QFTHell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
DrHyde
Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
 Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
Since blue ray is currently outselling HD-DVD why isn't Ps3 Succeeding then?
If sony gets controll of movie markets then start collecting royalties on all movie sales why would they care about ps3 anymore? Why not just cancel ps3 and focus on selling blue ray players, it would save them alot of money.
Ps3 sales have gone down even though blue ray sales have gone up??? Explain that
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
 Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
deadlypencil
Since blue ray is currently outselling HD-DVD why isn't Ps3 Succeeding then?
If sony gets controll of movie markets then start collecting royalties on all movie sales why would they care about ps3 anymore? Why not just cancel ps3 and focus on selling blue ray players, it would save them alot of money.
Ps3 sales have gone down even though blue ray sales have gone up??? Explain that
Blu-Ray sales have only gone up because of the PS3... I fail to see why you would buy a 1000 dollar player, when you can buy a 600 dollar one. I must admit the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray thing is weak right now. Casuals don't care, but in the future they will care. If they do care, they will see that more movies are for blu-ray, more developer support in both gaming and movies is for blu-ray.[QUOTE="DrHyde"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing. Any one with any TV can take advantage of DVD, still only a few % of the population can right now take advantage of a Blu-Ray player. DVD was 100x bigger of an impact than HD formats.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158163
Why do they care?
I mean they are not pushing 360 as a movie player like SOny with blu ray.
Whats going on?
PSP107
I don't think MS cares one way or the other--it has openly admitted that neither format (HD-DVD / BluRay) is proven and it refuses to toss its hat in on this front. It's focused on scoring big-time third party games and bringing them into the fold of the 360 library. Sony really made one hell of a blunder with this BluRay fiasco.
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="DrHyde"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing. Any one with any TV can take advantage of DVD, still only a few % of the population can right now take advantage of a Blu-Ray player. DVD was 100x bigger of an impact than HD formats. True, but I am talking about this thread. Microsoft will fear blu-ray. Microsoft always talks about the "HD-Era" meaning all games have HD, and they support HD.. Well the best HD player is the Blu-Ray. They are scared.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
Spartan070
Why do they care?PSP107If Blu ray wins thats a **** load of money for Sony. Money that they can use to buy games (MGS,FF13). Sony bet the playstation brand on blu ray. If blu ray wills they can save the mess that is PS3. If not then they just lost the farm.
[QUOTE="DrHyde"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing. But people love their DVDs they want DVDs. A lot of people I know don't care about HDDVD and very few know whats Blu rays is.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
 Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
deadlypencil
Since blue ray is currently outselling HD-DVD why isn't Ps3 Succeeding then?
If sony gets controll of movie markets then start collecting royalties on all movie sales why would they care about ps3 anymore? Why not just cancel ps3 and focus on selling blue ray players, it would save them alot of money.
Ps3 sales have gone down even though blue ray sales have gone up??? Explain that
erm may be cause people only buy 1 ps3 then buy more than 1 disc to play on it and belive it or not buy even more but not more ps3's for some silly reason[QUOTE="deadlypencil"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
Since blue ray is currently outselling HD-DVD why isn't Ps3 Succeeding then?
If sony gets controll of movie markets then start collecting royalties on all movie sales why would they care about ps3 anymore? Why not just cancel ps3 and focus on selling blue ray players, it would save them alot of money.
Ps3 sales have gone down even though blue ray sales have gone up??? Explain that
Blu-Ray sales have only gone up because of the PS3... I fail to see why you would buy a 1000 dollar player, when you can buy a 600 dollar one. I must admit the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray thing is weak right now. Casuals don't care, but in the future they will care. If they do care, they will see that more movies are for blu-ray, more developer support in both gaming and movies is for blu-ray. You do know that playstation3 is not the only $600 bluray player right?[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="DrHyde"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing. But people love their DVDs they want DVDs. A lot of people I know don't care about HDDVD and very few know whats Blu rays is. First of all, DVD players were treated the same back then Second of all, I bet most people know what Blu-Ray is, especially when practically all movie commercials (movies that came out in disc) have an announcer going "Comming in DVD and Blu-Ray Disc)Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
squirrel337
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="deadlypencil"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
squirrel337
Since blue ray is currently outselling HD-DVD why isn't Ps3 Succeeding then?
If sony gets controll of movie markets then start collecting royalties on all movie sales why would they care about ps3 anymore? Why not just cancel ps3 and focus on selling blue ray players, it would save them alot of money.
Ps3 sales have gone down even though blue ray sales have gone up??? Explain that
Blu-Ray sales have only gone up because of the PS3... I fail to see why you would buy a 1000 dollar player, when you can buy a 600 dollar one. I must admit the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray thing is weak right now. Casuals don't care, but in the future they will care. If they do care, they will see that more movies are for blu-ray, more developer support in both gaming and movies is for blu-ray. You do know that playstation3 is not the only $600 bluray player right? I understand the PS3 has a 900 manufacturing cost because of Blu-Ray.. I understand the PS3 is one of the most inexpensive Blu-Ray players I understand the PS3 is also a video game console Thats what I know.Where in that article did you get a sense that MS is afraid of Blu-Ray? Walmarts decision to drop the price on the HDDVD player had nothing to do with MS. Actually this is exactly why they decided not to put an HD DVD player in the 360. If HD DVD loses then they aren't stuck with a dead media format in their console.
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[QUOTE="squirrel337"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="DrHyde"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing. But people love their DVDs they want DVDs. A lot of people I know don't care about HDDVD and very few know whats Blu rays is. First of all, DVD players were treated the same back then Second of all, I bet most people know what Blu-Ray is, especially when practically all movie commercials (movies that came out in disc) have an announcer going "Comming in DVD and Blu-Ray Disc) Go to walmart a tell me what format do you see for movies.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. Why wouldn't it, I mean yeah a single format can't carry a whole game console, but if BD succeds then the cost of making them is likely to drop as there is more support and if the price of every disk drops, so the price of DVD players and the PS3 if the format becomes popular and that would help with the price issue. But it's all a big IF for now since few tv owners have HD's.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
DrHyde
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="squirrel337"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="DrHyde"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing. But people love their DVDs they want DVDs. A lot of people I know don't care about HDDVD and very few know whats Blu rays is. First of all, DVD players were treated the same back then Second of all, I bet most people know what Blu-Ray is, especially when practically all movie commercials (movies that came out in disc) have an announcer going "Comming in DVD and Blu-Ray Disc) Go to walmart a tell me what format do you see for movies. Mainly DVD and Blu-RayHell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
squirrel337
No Microsft fears noone Blu-ray is scared of Microsoft thats why Sony went with Blu-ray for there systems.jamesgjUhh, nice logic. So Sony would like to have something that is scared of MS on their team? Go away.
[QUOTE="squirrel337"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="squirrel337"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"][QUOTE="DrHyde"][QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Not necessarily. It just means Sony will pick-up some non-gamers looking for a cheap Blu-Ray player. It may help keep Sony in the game, but it certainly isn't going to give them the win. It won't decide the war altogether, but it's still a major part of it. Many PS2 owners, at first bought the PS2 as a DVD-Player. Surely this gen, it will be the same thing. But people love their DVDs they want DVDs. A lot of people I know don't care about HDDVD and very few know whats Blu rays is. First of all, DVD players were treated the same back then Second of all, I bet most people know what Blu-Ray is, especially when practically all movie commercials (movies that came out in disc) have an announcer going "Comming in DVD and Blu-Ray Disc) Go to walmart a tell me what format do you see for movies. DVD you are right ONLY DVD no HDDVD or Bluray.Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
I guess its pretty obvious...if MS didn't fear Blu-ray...than why would they give an HD-DvD drive as a 360 add-on?http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158163
Why do they care?
I mean they are not pushing 360 as a movie player like SOny with blu ray.
Whats going on?
PSP107
I really love the connections uninformed people try to make linking MS to hddvd. MS went on record that they liked the format for better security at the time when both formats were being considered for use in the upcoming release of windows vista. So now the association of MS to HDDVD is being touted as MS is backing HDDVD. They could really care less if blue ray or hddvd wins because they are more interested in digital content distribution. So they made a hddvd player as an option. Wise choice to make it an "option" so they could go back and make a blueray player add-on as well if need be. In fact, I am betting they already have one but wont talk about it until the next big game convention. MS doesn't make drives nor do they make discs. They make software and contrary to belief, they do not really make the 360 as much as they have it made for them by other companies. It is their design but they don't build it, pack it or ship it. That is what outsourcing is for.
Sony, on the other hand, DOES make drives and movies and discs for movies to fit on so they have way more at stake to lose if the format fails. They have to be agressive at selling the blueray format to try and get back the majority share of what they invested in the format to begin with. A high def format was always on the horizon. I look at hddvd and blueray as the same thing just in different capacities. Like buying single layer dvd and double layer dvd. They are both dvd just one holds more than the other. What you intend to put on it will determine if you use the smaller size or not. I like the fact that the difference in laser wavelength are so minute that hybrid players/burners are going to be easy to make and then all the rest of the consumers will have the best choice for hd content. BOTH FORMATS!!! It is like if there is an album you like but it isnt on tape, you get the cd. A movie you like isnt on hddvd but it is on blueray. You win either way because you got a player that does both.
It will be the ultimate home entertainment unit. 360 with hddvd player plugged into one usb port and blueray player plugged into another. You can't do that with a ps3.
No Microsft fears noone Blu-ray is scared of Microsoft thats why Sony went with Blu-ray for there systems.jamesgjNo. Sony didn't put Blu-ray in because Microsoft scared them. If anything they would have not included it to better compete with MS on price.
Sony put Blu-ray in because they want to push their next-gen format onto consumers. And so far it's working for them.
why couldnt the ps3 have an adon drive if it realy neaded 1I really love the connections uninformed people try to make linking MS to hddvd. MS went on record that they liked the format for better security at the time when both formats were being considered for use in the upcoming release of windows vista. So now the association of MS to HDDVD is being touted as MS is backing HDDVD. They could really care less if blue ray or hddvd wins because they are more interested in digital content distribution. So they made a hddvd player as an option. Wise choice to make it an "option" so they could go back and make a blueray player add-on as well if need be. In fact, I am betting they already have one but wont talk about it until the next big game convention. MS doesn't make drives nor do they make discs. They make software and contrary to belief, they do not really make the 360 as much as they have it made for them by other companies. It is their design but they don't build it, pack it or ship it. That is what outsourcing is for.
Sony, on the other hand, DOES make drives and movies and discs for movies to fit on so they have way more at stake to lose if the format fails. They have to be agressive at selling the blueray format to try and get back the majority share of what they invested in the format to begin with. A high def format was always on the horizon. I look at hddvd and blueray as the same thing just in different capacities. Like buying single layer dvd and double layer dvd. They are both dvd just one holds more than the other. What you intend to put on it will determine if you use the smaller size or not. I like the fact that the difference in laser wavelength are so minute that hybrid players/burners are going to be easy to make and then all the rest of the consumers will have the best choice for hd content. BOTH FORMATS!!! It is like if there is an album you like but it isnt on tape, you get the cd. A movie you like isnt on hddvd but it is on blueray. You win either way because you got a player that does both.
It will be the ultimate home entertainment unit. 360 with hddvd player plugged into one usb port and blueray player plugged into another. You can't do that with a ps3.
skyvader
I thought the title will be more of a attention grabber when i put Mircosoft. But lets pretend Mircosoft had somthing to do with, and they just so happen to drop the price of thier HD-DVD. I mean why be agrressive in prices if ur not aiming the 360 to be a movie playerWhere in that article did you get a sense that MS is afraid of Blu-Ray? Walmarts decision to drop the price on the HDDVD player had nothing to do with MS. Actually this is exactly why they decided not to put an HD DVD player in the 360. If HD DVD loses then they aren't stuck with a dead media format in their console.
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heretrix
if they realy didnt care they wouldnt have an hd drive out yet and have waited to see which format won or even one of the newly anounced drives that does both formatshttp://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158163
Why do they care?
I mean they are not pushing 360 as a movie player like SOny with blu ray.
Whats going on?
PSP107
Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
The_Nemacyst
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Why do you really care about blu-ray? Shouldn't ps3 mainly be about the games you play instead of the movies you watch?? If the ps3 succeeds then blu-ray should succeed. 360 will continue to dominate regardless because of its continually growing library of quality games.
I dont know why people are so caught up in this blu-ray HD-DVD crap. Who cares, when I buy a game console it is not to watch movies on it. It is to play games. If I want a blu-ray disc player that bad I'll go buy the player or just wait a couple years for it to go down furth in the price the PS3, secondly there is not a hugggggge difference between the quality of the two. If you think there is a huggggge difference your a moron. The two are significantly different in space. HD-DVD is almost 15/30 gigs depending if it is dual-layer or not and the blue ray is about 50 gigs. So there real huge difference that all you Sony people are getting excited about is 20 gigs and different laser.http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158163
Why do they care?
I mean they are not pushing 360 as a movie player like SOny with blu ray.
Whats going on?
PSP107
[QUOTE="The_Nemacyst"]Hell yes. If Blu-Ray suceeds, PS3 suceeds.
Microsoft isn't supporting HD-DVD themselves, but if the PS3 succeeds, then the xbox360 loses.
stempler69
Why do you really care about blu-ray? Shouldn't ps3 mainly be about the games you play instead of the movies you watch?? If the ps3 succeeds then blu-ray should succeed. 360 will continue to dominate regardless because of its continually growing library of quality games.
wait wait hold on Blu-ray is on the PS3 yes,but you cant say that us cows talking about blu-ray doesnt mean ps3 isnt mainly about games thats like saying people souldn't care about there dvd feature in there PS2's,or else there not focused on there game library,you know we can care about BOTH right? plus PS3 will continue to dominate regardless because of its continually growing library of quality games.Please Log In to post.
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