Does Nintendo need a new franchise for Wii to keep the hardcore satisfied?

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#1 Scoob64
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Do you think so? I love me some Mario and Zelda- but it'd be nice to see a new 'epic' franchise started by Nintendo... they seemed to have no problem coming up with amazing franchises in the NES/SNES days... :\

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#2 Punjabiking101
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Nintendo has been playing the milking card lately, I want a new franchise :?

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#3 psn8214
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The 'hardcore' will be satisfied when Monster Hunter Tri comes...

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#4 Dibdibdobdobo
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simple answer: NO!! Samus / Metroid can be milked even more as its the best series in gaming history..
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#5 AmayaPapaya
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If Zelda Wii is atleast this.

OOT>Zelda Wii>Zelda whatever.......

Then I will be happy for the rest of the Wiis lifespan.

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#6 HarlockJC
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Nintendo has been playing the milking card lately, I want a new franchise :?

Punjabiking101
See I think most Nintendo fans want more of Nintendo IP than anything else. I rather have more of an IP I know and love rather than a new one. Give me Metroid, Mario, Zelda, Star Fox and so on over any new IP anyday.
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#7 psn8214
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[QUOTE="Punjabiking101"]

Nintendo has been playing the milking card lately, I want a new franchise :?

HarlockJC

See I think most Nintendo fans want more of Nintendo IP than anything else. I rather have more of an IP I know and love rather than a new one. Give me Metroid, Mario, Zelda, Star Fox and so on over any new IP anyday.

This is what I want...

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#8 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="Punjabiking101"]

Nintendo has been playing the milking card lately, I want a new franchise :?

psn8214

See I think most Nintendo fans want more of Nintendo IP than anything else. I rather have more of an IP I know and love rather than a new one. Give me Metroid, Mario, Zelda, Star Fox and so on over any new IP anyday.

This is what I want...

It will come Nintendo has a number of IPs to go though each gen. It just takes time to get to it. So far we have got Punch Out, Mario, getting Zelda, Animal Crosssing, Paper Mario, Metroid and Excite. They will get there, I am hoping that is what Retro is working on. We know it's not Metroid.
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#9 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"] See I think most Nintendo fans want more of Nintendo IP than anything else. I rather have more of an IP I know and love rather than a new one. Give me Metroid, Mario, Zelda, Star Fox and so on over any new IP anyday. HarlockJC

This is what I want...

It will come Nintendo has a number of IPs to go though each gen. It just takes time to get to it. So far we have got Punch Out, Mario, getting Zelda, Animal Crosssing, Paper Mario, Metroid and Excite. They will get there, I am hoping that is what Retro is working on. We know it's not Metroid.

Retros new projevt is...

A First Person Zelda!

I wouldn't be surprised if they were working on a Zelda, or if there new project is influenced by it. They have Zelda on the brain over there for sure.

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#10 jin3438
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I definetly want some new IP's from Nintendo and no I'm not talking about causal games. I love Zelda and Mario, not really into Metroid but I'll check out other M.. I really want to see what the brains over at Nintendo can come up with. New IP's breath life into into the consoles when they begin to get stale just look at the PS3 with Uncharted and Resistance. The 360 with Gears and Mass Effect, I kno third party devs but still..

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#11 II-FBIsniper-II
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Isn't Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Wii Music enough?
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#12 jin3438
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They dont count to me I like games with stories although I will admit Nintendo does know how to make money.

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#13 AmayaPapaya
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Isn't Wii Sports, Wii Fit, and Wii Music enough?II-FBIsniper-II

I guess they are a new IP. But I think people are talking about more of an adventure IP. The Wii series is mainly Mini Game/Simulation typethings. Although, The Wii Series is quite fun despite the extreme casualness.

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#14 psn8214
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It will come Nintendo has a number of IPs to go though each gen. It just takes time to get to it. So far we have got Punch Out, Mario, getting Zelda, Animal Crosssing, Paper Mario, Metroid and Excite. They will get there, I am hoping that is what Retro is working on. We know it's not Metroid. HarlockJC

I am keeping my fingers crossed. I was hoping we would see it earlier considering that there were two titles last gen.

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#15 Syferonik
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Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.
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#16 Laxer04
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a new zelda for the wii. that is all nintendo needs to do

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#17 Dibdibdobdobo
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Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.Syferonik
You speak for several million people huh?! Woah that must be tough being a Wii representitive.
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Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.Syferonik

Most Hardcore gamers don't sell there consoles no matter how much they don't play it. And most are keeping it for Other M and Zelda Wii.

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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.Dibdibdobdobo
You speak for several million people huh?! Woah that must be tough being a Wii representitive.

Naa not tough when its a fact

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#20 Syferonik
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.AmayaPapaya

Most Hardcore gamers don't sell there consoles no matter how much they don't play it. And most are keeping it for Other M and Zelda Wii.

If they want the new slim and have no money but a dusty Wii which they used months ago then yes they do. btw The other M won't be availabe this or even next year and we know nothing about zelda maybe its not even coming this gen on Wii...MH3 is great other than this one game Wii has nothing and forget about SMG2 which will be the same as the 1st...great but nothing omfg worth buying a console for.

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#21 AmayaPapaya
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[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]

[QUOTE="Syferonik"]Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.Syferonik

Most Hardcore gamers don't sell there consoles no matter how much they don't play it. And most are keeping it for Other M and Zelda Wii.

If they want the new slim and have no money but a dusty Wii which they used months ago then yes they do.

No not really. Most Hardcore gamers are not going to sell there Wii just to get the same system lol.

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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Syferonik"]Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.Syferonik

You speak for several million people huh?! Woah that must be tough being a Wii representitive.

Naa not tough when its a fact

Funny then how the last 2 months in a row there has been more Wii titles in the top 20 NPD than the PS3 and 360 together. I guess they are buying the games and selling their consoles at the same time?
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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Syferonik"]Most of hardcore gamers already sold theire Wii's so doesnt matter its too late anyway. Wii is made to have fun for an hour or two per week with your family and nothing else.Syferonik

You speak for several million people huh?! Woah that must be tough being a Wii representitive.

Naa not tough when its a fact

you going to give me the websites, news journals, blogs or any source of information to back these facts or just proclaim its fact because you said so?! Please back up your words with FACTS instead of posting OPINIONS and muddling it up with rubbish which you are clearly talking. Now thats a FACT!!
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] You speak for several million people huh?! Woah that must be tough being a Wii representitive.HarlockJC

Naa not tough when its a fact

Funny then how the last 2 months in a row there has been more Wii titles in the top 20 NPD than the PS3 and 360 together. I guess they are buying the games and selling their consoles at the same time?

How many Wii's sold there is? 57millions+? most of people who bought them are casuals (of course not all since many people on this forum own one and i don't think a casual would be on a gaming forum) and casuals buy random stuff cuz they don't know what is good and what not worth 50$. Forget about the *more Wii titles* look at the 1st place which is held by Madden 010 on 360 (i think) and the Wii sold over double of what 360 sold.

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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"] You speak for several million people huh?! Woah that must be tough being a Wii representitive.Dibdibdobdobo

Naa not tough when its a fact

you going to give me the websites, news journals, blogs or any source of information to back these facts or just proclaim its fact because you said so?! Please back up your words with FACTS instead of posting OPINIONS and muddling it up with rubbish which you are clearly talking. Now thats a FACT!!

Google it and you find it by your own...but i am not sure why are you asking me links when you know its true. If you live in canada go to EBgames and check at how many used Wii's they got.

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How many Wii's sold there is? 57millions+? most of people who bought them are casuals (of course not all since many people on this forum own one and i don't think a casual would be on a gaming forum) and casuals buy random stuff cuz they don't know what is good and what not worth 50$. Forget about the *more Wii titles* look at the 1st place which is held by Madden 010 on 360 (i think) and the Wii sold over double of what 360 sold.

Syferonik

And the number two title was a Wii game which has been out for 2 months. The Wii is selling more games right now than the other two consoles and are now that all consoles are within 2% quality of each other for the year. I would question any gamer who calls themselves a so called hard core games and is missing out on the system with the most exclusives.

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#27 Dibdibdobdobo
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]

[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"][QUOTE="Syferonik"]Naa not tough when its a fact

you going to give me the websites, news journals, blogs or any source of information to back these facts or just proclaim its fact because you said so?! Please back up your words with FACTS instead of posting OPINIONS and muddling it up with rubbish which you are clearly talking. Now thats a FACT!!

Google it and you find it by your own...but i am not sure why are you asking me links when you know its true. If you live in canada go to EBgames and check at how many used Wii's they got.

Im not the one whos saying something and unable to back up there words with facts, Untill you can then your *Facts* are false without any proof. Yes im going to jump on a Plane from England just to see that your opinion isnt false!! Oh right im being sarcastic!! So i know its true because you say so?! So what i say is true aswell or does it just work with you?! I'm a billionaire and own Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo....
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#28 uglyhippos
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I would rather have more third party support but either or is still good.

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[QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]simple answer: NO!! Samus / Metroid can be milked even more as its the best series in gaming history..

This is the problem, the sheep are happy with what ever Nintendo gives them . Give them a list of upcoming games and the average gamer would see it as a bunch of shovleware and kids games.. Sheep will gobble it up as its on their system and defend bad games. I made a thread full of all the wii new releases and that is the type of response sheep gave. There is more than Mario, Samu, and Link, but unitll sheep stop buying nintendo seems fine not making anything new. There seal of quality from the 80's when they restrected the number of releases means absolutley nothing any more as wii is getting 100s of games this fall 99% shovelware and kid games. 1% hardcore games... sad really.
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[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="Dibdibdobdobo"]simple answer: NO!! Samus / Metroid can be milked even more as its the best series in gaming history..

This is the problem, the sheep are happy with what ever Nintendo gives them . Give them a list of upcoming games and the average gamer would see it as a bunch of shovleware and kids games.. Sheep will gobble it up as its on their system and defend bad games. I made a thread full of all the wii new releases and that is the type of response sheep gave. There is more than Mario, Samu, and Link, but unitll sheep stop buying nintendo seems fine not making anything new. There seal of quality from the 80's when they restrected the number of releases means absolutley nothing any more as wii is getting 100s of games this fall 99% shovelware and kid games. 1% hardcore games... sad really.

what are you talking about..... You sound so freaking elitist its untrue........ I guess games like Zack and Wiki, De Blob, Boy and his Blob, World of Goo and Little King Story would be classed "kiddy" by you..... I guess you missed No More Heroes, House of Dead OverKill, Fire Emblam, Tiger Woods, Pro Evo, Boom Blox, Punch Out aren't your sort of thing How come most of the titles like Metroid, SMG, SSBB, Mario Kart Wii e.t.c are AA or above??? Are these bad games, have reviewers been paid off?!?! If they have I hold my hands up because Nintendo and different Publishers have spent alot of money The console is for everyone... not just you the "hardcorz" gamer but for everyone!! I will never deny that 360 and PS3 have more games that suit my tastes.... but I wouldn't miss out any off the above because its not "cool" or "hardcorz"
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#31 cheese_it
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I think they're doing a great job of making the Wii more of a hardcore Nintendo fan's console, with Metroid: Other M, New Super Mario Bros. Wii, and Punch-Out!. They need to release a completely original Zelda this time and not just a rehash of OoT, along with a new F-Zero, Kirby, Earthbound, Golden Sun, Pikmin, and Star Fox.
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#32 DeadEndPanda
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no, most gamers are setisfied with the wii the way it is.

nintendo allready made new IPs

they milked their old frenchises yeah, about as much as FF or guitar hero, and if ya dont mind them, why would you mind zelda or metroid?

atlast their games always get 8.5-9.0 :P

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#33 garfield360uk
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Perhaps not a new IP, but I would like to see Luigi's Mansion 2 for Wii. I loved the first game on Gamecube and its a shame they have not made a sequal on the Wii or DS. Other than that, perhaps trying to help support third party developers with advertising the games for their systems (like I have seen Fifa and Need for Speed adverts on TV which are XBox or Playstation branded, what about a PGA advert for Wii or such). Maybe pushing Wii motion plus as a requirment for future games and bundle it with quite a large number of the required games so it gets out there quicker. However, I would like a Wii HD as I like my graphics and it would be so cool to see Mario in HD along with the other series Nintendo is noted for.
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[QUOTE="Syferonik"]How many Wii's sold there is? 57millions+? most of people who bought them are casuals (of course not all since many people on this forum own one and i don't think a casual would be on a gaming forum) and casuals buy random stuff cuz they don't know what is good and what not worth 50$. Forget about the *more Wii titles* look at the 1st place which is held by Madden 010 on 360 (i think) and the Wii sold over double of what 360 sold.

HarlockJC

And the number two title was a Wii game which has been out for 2 months. The Wii is selling more games right now than the other two consoles and are now that all consoles are within 2% quality of each other for the year. I would question any gamer who calls themselves a so called hard core games and is missing out on the system with the most exclusives.

I consider myself a core gamer. I don't like the Wii. Don't feel it had anything to offer me. Question me. And it's funny how Wii sports, Wii fit and EA active are used to claim ownage on SW. Also the 2% quality bit is not just funny, it's violently hilarious if there is such a phrase.
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http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27038122

Wii haters read this and cry.

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#36 nintendoboy16
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Well, Retro Studios (the developers behind the Metroid Prime games) have a secret project in the works. I'll be waiting for that, while I eagerly await Kirby Wii, Star Fox Wii, and F-Zero Wii. Not to mention Sin and Punishment 2.
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#37 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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No, because I'm satisfied with the game that the Wii provides. Between my Wii and PS3, I can play almost every game that I'm interested in. It seems like just having a Wii will give permission to some to say I'm not hardcore, but whatever. I'm a happy gamer.

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#38 -Oath
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Nope, if the 'hardcore" arent satisfied with what Nintendo has now then they should sell and bail now. Personally Im more than satisfied with what Ive got, the Wii is a behemoth of a system IMO.

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#39 gamedude234
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if they make a new starfox, and the new zelda comes out quick, hardcore wii gamers will be happy. i will:D

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#40 pierst179
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All I want right now is Zelda Wii, Pikmin 3 and new F-Zero, Star Fox and DK games. :)

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[QUOTE="tok1879"] I consider myself a core gamer. I don't like the Wii. Don't feel it had anything to offer me. Question me. And it's funny how Wii sports, Wii fit and EA active are used to claim ownage on SW. Also the 2% quality bit is not just funny, it's violently hilarious if there is such a phrase.

Why would the 2% thing be hilarious if there is only a 2% difference between the quality of all game consoles this gen. You may call yourself a core gamer, but to me a so called "hardcore gamer" could not just skip on a whole consoles worth of games. Then on top of that the console with the exclusive games this year.
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#42 NinjaDuckling
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They revived the Punchout, Excite and Sin and Punishment series. They also created the Wii Sports games and Endless Ocean 1/2, which are pretty fun. Upcoming new releases include Tact of Magic (RTS), Dynamic Zan (Action/Adventure), Monado (RPG) and Cosmic Walker (Adventure) (NoA needs to bring these over asap). I think Nintendo is doing fine by creating these games along with their mainstream IPs.

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#43 Truewiseblade
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Nintendo could easily get away with not creating another new franchise this generation. They've barely even scratched the surface of the properties they own. I'm still waiting for Wii editions of Starfox and Pilotwings. Not to mention the really obvious stuff like that Kirby game that hasn't talked about in years...

However, when Nintendo made new franchises last generation, we got Pikmin. So...

GIVE ME NEW FRANCHISES NOW, NINTENDO!

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#44 Brawl578
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The "hardcore" will never be satisfied.

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#45 Cruse34
Member since 2009 • 4468 Posts

I don't rember the numbers but Nintendo has more New IPs than M$ or Sony. And about 40 games out or announced compared to M$ 25 and Sony 21

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#46 CoralMark
Member since 2008 • 481 Posts

The "hardcore" will never be satisfied.

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I agree completely. Hardcore gamers are like the highest of high maintenance girlfriend - if you manage to please them one moment, there's no guarantee they won't be complaining 5 minutes later.

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#47 akif22
Member since 2003 • 16012 Posts
it would be great if they had a great FPS franchise .. sci-fi like halo or more realistic .. just something like goldeneye and perfect dark for N64
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#48 tok1879
Member since 2005 • 1537 Posts
[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="tok1879"] I consider myself a core gamer. I don't like the Wii. Don't feel it had anything to offer me. Question me. And it's funny how Wii sports, Wii fit and EA active are used to claim ownage on SW. Also the 2% quality bit is not just funny, it's violently hilarious if there is such a phrase.

Why would the 2% thing be hilarious if there is only a 2% difference between the quality of all game consoles this gen. You may call yourself a core gamer, but to me a so called "hardcore gamer" could not just skip on a whole consoles worth of games. Then on top of that the console with the exclusive games this year.

lol..*cough* So..um..how exactly did you derive you 2%? And your definition of "hardcore gamer" is cool with me, mine's just different but since there is no standard definition, we'ld just leave that be. And about the exclusives thing, it's funny you're trying to use the quantity of exclusives as a plus. I'm sure there are people out there who enjoy "games" like Wii fit, wii music, and Wii petz but i'ld take Conan over those. And i'm pretty sure i won't like Conan.
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#49 Nintendo_Ownes7
Member since 2005 • 30973 Posts

Nintendo has been playing the milking card lately, I want a new franchise :?

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Everybody wants new IPs from Nintendo but when they get them they ignore them.

New IPs for the Wii.

Endless Ocean

Disaster Day of Crisis (Not released in North America)

Dynamic Slash (Not released developed by Sandlot (Earth Defense Force series)

Line Attack Heroes (Katamari type game mixed with an RPG)

Cosmic Walker (Not released it is an Action Adventure in Space)

Monado: The Beginning of the World (RPG developed by Nintendo and Monolith Soft.)

Wiiware

You Me and the Cubes (Puzzle game)

I didn't even mention DS titles since they is 40+ new IPs on the DS.

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#50 ActicEdge
Member since 2008 • 24492 Posts

If by hardcore you mean 15-35 year old self proclaimed hardcore males then sure. Do I think they should go that route? Naw, that group is a waste of effort compared to Nintendo's strengths.