Does Nintendo really think core gamers will crawl back to them for the WiiU?

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#1 runbleduck
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Nintendo stated their strategy for WiiU is to get core gamers back. Do they seriously expect us to believe their BS? Especially when WiiU's spec is on par with current-gen 6 year old systems, and all the core games they've shown were awful looking current-gen ports, ugly bulky controller that has analog nubs instead of analog sticks, stylus required outdated resistive touch screen (characteristic of the fake china IPad knockoffs), only one controller support, no mutiplayer online infrastructure, etc. The nerve for Nintendo to say this when even now they continue to spite us by refusing to bring core games like xenoblade, last story, fatal frame, etc to the U.S, and favor overpriced trash like the port of free PC games mysteries files. This is disgustingly insulting. Now that they learned their casual fanbase are not very profitable for them as they do not buy games outside of the one bundled with the system, and have already jumped ship to Apple, Nintendo finally realized that they need core gamers to stay afloat. And with the 3DS having crashed and burned and the WiiU reveal an utter disaster, Nintendo's getting desperate, yet still acting like core gamers will crawl back to them with their lousy 3rd party current-gen ports. Sorry Nintendo, it's you who need to crawl back to core gamers, and even then core gamers will spit on your face in order toreciprocate your actions. Karma Nintendo, karma.

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#2 SoraX64
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I'm not crawling back, I'm happily strolling back.
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#3 Mograine
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What are you saying? The Wii U hasn't even been released yet :?

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#4 thom_maytees
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Did we need another Nintendo thread today? It seems that these threads are becoming a fad.
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#5 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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calm down, we know practically nothing about the wii u
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#6 StealthMonkey4
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Casuals are getting tired of the Wii and most likely won't invest in a new console and hardcore gamers have moved on after being abandonedby Nintendo with the Wii. Nintendo is in between a rock and a hard place and the 3DS sales and price cut really show this... :?

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#7 Bubble_Man
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The wii disappointed me and the 3DS has nothing I'm interested in. When NoA refused to even bring over a few action RPGs, that was pretty much that last straw for me. I'm not buying any of theirsystems next gen.

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#8 Iantheone
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Well I own a Wii, so I never really left =/
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#9 millerlight89
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I won't be investing in it. I'm kicking Ninty to the curb.
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#10 Zorgax
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i never crawled away from them to begin with

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#11 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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I'm not crawling back, I'm happily strolling back.SoraX64

I'm not happily strolling back, I'm gladly running back. :P

How is the Wii U on par with current gen consoles? APU technology + quad core CPU + RV770-based GPU = current gen? Did you know that a 4800 Radeon HD hooked up with a quad core Intel CPU is capable of running Crysis on high settings? Same thing with Metro 2033. Now, imagine what's possible when the card is based off of a 4800 Radeon HD (heavily modded) coupled with the optimization we get from console devs. The controller has had nothing but positive feedback from those who've used it, and I honestly like the look of the console. Plus the third party support is already looking strong (and the inevitable good first party support). We can't say much without more information though.

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#12 KBFloYd
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the casuals didnt jump to apple...

kinect and move is what hurt the wii...ripoff stuff took away the "uniqueness" of the wii.

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#13 ZIVX
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The nerve for Nintendo to say this when even now they continue to spite us by refusing to bring core games like xenoblade, last story, fatal frame, etc to the U.S. Sorry Nintendo, it's you who need to crawl back to core gamers, and even then core gamers will spit on your face in order toreciprocate your actions. Karma Nintendo, karma.

runbleduck

That was NoA's action, it does not reflect the entire company (but someone should say something to Reggie)

You seem a bit angry with Nintendo what did they do to you? :?

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#15 Arbiterisl33t69
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Damn, what's with all the unnecessary hate they're getting, it's mostly from MS/Sony/PC fanboys who don't even like Nintendo to begin with so I don't see what the point of them making these bashing threads is. We get it. It's not your cup of tea. Whatever. We get it. They're in a tough spot right now. I couldn't care less, all I know is they definitely won ME back for the Wii-U. If it makes me a bad person that I left to begin with when the Wii came out, so be it, I'm coming back, though. Oh, and the passive-aggressive remarks are hilarious. Also I like how many of the haters add sprinkles of lies to make the situation look even worse. The Wii U isn't on par with current gen consoles, it's superior. Deal with it.
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#16 Gamingclone
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We barely know anything about the system besides it's touch screen controller and teh HD.

Wait until next E3 before you ask this question TC. Because right now, core gamers arent doing anything besides waiting for more info.

Also what is it with all of these Nintendo hate topics today, I am also noticing that they are coming from people with low post counts.

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#17 daveyf03
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I'm stoked, I'm buying one... so long as my vc purchases transfer.

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#18 Fizzman
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Nintendo is dead to me. I learned my lesson with the Wii.

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#19 theuncharted34
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And I won't just crawl back, I'll sprint back.

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#20 silversix_
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By the time WIIU comes out it'll be on par with 7years old current gen consoles... When it comes to Nintendo (and that since GC was released) just don't bother hyping anything and you won't be disappointed. I will buy their console if 1. they change that stupid controller. 2. are on par graphically to the other two (just like 360 is to ps3). 3. Get every 3rd party the others get and some original 1st party that ain't rate E for every1....
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#21 keno570
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Core gamers have spited Nintendo for catering only to the needs of casual gamers, therefore receiving much negativity and leaving Nintendo alone in the sandbox. But hey, its a possibility that the WiiU could change all that. Also, the specs are not comparable to 6 year old systems, the quad core processor is capable of running RAM-demanding games. Besides, WiiU doesn't even have an exact release date. It's getting the same predictions as the PS VIta.
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#22 millerlight89
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Did you know that a 4800 Radeon HD hooked up with a quad core Intel CPU is capable of running Crysis on high settings? XVision84
Not if the system in lacking in ram. Many of you seem to only concentrate on CPU and GPU. Ram is just as important. Especially for games with larger worlds like Crysis.
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[QUOTE="XVision84"] Did you know that a 4800 Radeon HD hooked up with a quad core Intel CPU is capable of running Crysis on high settings? millerlight89
Not if the system in lacking in ram. Many of you seem to only concentrate on CPU and GPU. Ram is just as important. Especially for games with larger worlds like Crysis.

Nobody really mentions RAM because it'll have whatever amount of RAM that it needs, because RAM is so cheap.

The Wii U isn't just going to have a 4800 gpu or whatever and then for no reason in particular only have 512 mb's of RAM.

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#24 ActicEdge
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If it has games I'm interested in I'll get it. That's really all there is to it. All this betrayal and hyper defense force is stupid. Half you people don't even sound like gamers, you souncd like people immersed in company wars.

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#25 spookykid143
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At the moment i will not be getting the Wii U, i will just stick to their handhelds.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="XVision84"] Did you know that a 4800 Radeon HD hooked up with a quad core Intel CPU is capable of running Crysis on high settings? theuncharted34

Not if the system in lacking in ram. Many of you seem to only concentrate on CPU and GPU. Ram is just as important. Especially for games with larger worlds like Crysis.

Nobody really mentions RAM because it'll have whatever amount of RAM that it needs, because RAM is so cheap.

The Wii U isn't just going to have a 4800 gpu or whatever and then for no reason in particular only have 512 mb's of RAM.

No, nobody talks about ram because they don't understand half of the crap. I would love to know how you know how much ram it will have though. This is Ninty, they aren't that bright when it comes to hardware.
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#27 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Not if the system in lacking in ram. Many of you seem to only concentrate on CPU and GPU. Ram is just as important. Especially for games with larger worlds like Crysis.millerlight89

Nobody really mentions RAM because it'll have whatever amount of RAM that it needs, because RAM is so cheap.

The Wii U isn't just going to have a 4800 gpu or whatever and then for no reason in particular only have 512 mb's of RAM.

No, nobody talks about ram because they don't understand half of the crap. I would love to know how you know how much ram it will have though. This is Ninty, they aren't that bright when it comes to hardware.

Oh, really? did I say I did?

Oh my lol.

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#28 JasonDarksavior
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Did we need another Nintendo thread today? It seems that these threads are becoming a fad.thom_maytees
It's System Wars ... :P
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#29 millerlight89
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Oh, really? did I say I did?

Oh my lol.

theuncharted34

Yea, you seem to think you know what they are going to do in terms of RAM, that was pretty damn clear. Yep, oh my is right. Care to prove me wrong, go ahead. In the end you can't and that's that.

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#30 eboyishere
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too early, but on the controller alone, im not exactly "running" back to them
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#31 millerlight89
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too early, but on the controller alone, im not exactly "running" back to themeboyishere
The controller is the main reason I'm not. I couldn't really careless about the power of the thing, but that damn controller looks horrid.

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#32 theuncharted34
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]Oh, really? did I say I did?

Oh my lol.

millerlight89

Yea, you seem to think you know what they are going to do in terms of RAM, that was pretty damn clear. Yep, oh my is right. Care to prove me wrong, go ahead. In the end you can't and that's that.

I said if it will have a 4800 series GPU, they wouldn't just stick 512 mb's in the Wii U.

There was so much wrong with that statement I don't know where to begin, is all. You should expand on what you mean.

It seems like another "Derp I'll hate on Nintendo" post.

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#33 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]too early, but on the controller alone, im not exactly "running" back to themmillerlight89

The controller is the main reason I'm not. I couldn't really careless about the power of the thing, but that damn controller looks horrid.

You know its compatible with the classic Controller right?

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#34 thom_maytees
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There are various types of "core" gamers, from the open-minded, to the narrow-minded. Core gamers are not monolithic and are quite diverse.

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#35 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Not if the system in lacking in ram. Many of you seem to only concentrate on CPU and GPU. Ram is just as important. Especially for games with larger worlds like Crysis.millerlight89

Nobody really mentions RAM because it'll have whatever amount of RAM that it needs, because RAM is so cheap.

The Wii U isn't just going to have a 4800 gpu or whatever and then for no reason in particular only have 512 mb's of RAM.

No, nobody talks about ram because they don't understand half of the crap. I would love to know how you know how much ram it will have though. This is Ninty, they aren't that bright when it comes to hardware.

understand half of the crap? That's just making assumptions. RAM is cheap, and CPU and GPU are the two things that are very important and cost a lot more than RAM. 4GB-6GB of RAM can be bought for very cheap (even by the average consumer), so I'm sure we'll see lots of RAM in the Wii U. Especially since RAM is a really big problem with the current gen consoles.

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]too early, but on the controller alone, im not exactly "running" back to themActicEdge

The controller is the main reason I'm not. I couldn't really careless about the power of the thing, but that damn controller looks horrid.

You know its compatible with the classic Controller right?

got big hands brah, i dont even use the normal ps3 controllers, let alone the CC ones for the wii, but i dont like the direction they are going with it

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]too early, but on the controller alone, im not exactly "running" back to themmillerlight89

The controller is the main reason I'm not. I couldn't really careless about the power of the thing, but that damn controller looks horrid.

Yep, let's write off the controller before actually using it.

Because you know, everyone who has said it's very ergonomic.

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#38 93BlackHawk93
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I hate the controller, but I still have to use it.

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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]too early, but on the controller alone, im not exactly "running" back to themmillerlight89

The controller is the main reason I'm not. I couldn't really careless about the power of the thing, but that damn controller looks horrid.

:| So you're telling me that you're not going to get a console that's looking great so far, because the controller looks bad? Even though it's gotten nothing but positive feedback? I wouldn't let the look of a controller stop me from enjoying more great games (or next gen games for that matter).

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#40 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] The controller is the main reason I'm not. I couldn't really careless about the power of the thing, but that damn controller looks horrid.

eboyishere

You know its compatible with the classic Controller right?

got big hands brah, i dont even use the normal ps3 controllers, let alone the CC ones for the wii, but i dont like the direction they are going with it

So do I. What's your point? Third party controllers and controller porters exist for a reason you know. If you don't like the direction that's one thing but the whole "the controller doesn't suit me" when there are a million and one ways to solve this issue is just non sense.

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#41 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

You know its compatible with the classic Controller right?

ActicEdge

got big hands brah, i dont even use the normal ps3 controllers, let alone the CC ones for the wii, but i dont like the direction they are going with it

So do I. What's your point? Third party controllers and controller porters exist for a reason you know. If you don't like the direction that's one thing but the whole "the controller doesn't suit me" when there are a million and one ways to solve this issue is just non sense.

while you have good taste in rap artist (J. Cole) but it's subjective, i dont think Ninty has third party controllers...dont know tho

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#42 Mario2007
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How would a classic controller work on the Wii U? Aren't the games meant to be played with the special controller?
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Casuals are getting tired of the Wii and most likely won't invest in a new console and hardcore gamers have moved on after being abandonedby Nintendo with the Wii. Nintendo is in between a rock and a hard place and the 3DS sales and price cut really show this... :?

Coolyfett

We will see what happens the day the price cut takes effect. Honestly Nintendo has lost a lot of respect from Coolyfett this week. Coolyfett wanted Nintendo to compete and push Sony to a higher level, but Nintendo is tapping out and not competiting, now Sony will just do what they did with the PSP.

so they lost respect from you because of a price cut? What the hell?
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#45 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="eboyishere"]too early, but on the controller alone, im not exactly "running" back to themtheuncharted34

The controller is the main reason I'm not. I couldn't really careless about the power of the thing, but that damn controller looks horrid.

Yep, let's write off the controller before actually using it.

Because you know, everyone who has said it's very ergonomic.

Circle pads that can't be pressed in and no triggers is enough to write off the controller imo.
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#46 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="Coolyfett"]

[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Casuals are getting tired of the Wii and most likely won't invest in a new console and hardcore gamers have moved on after being abandonedby Nintendo with the Wii. Nintendo is in between a rock and a hard place and the 3DS sales and price cut really show this... :?

Shinobishyguy

We will see what happens the day the price cut takes effect. Honestly Nintendo has lost a lot of respect from Coolyfett this week. Coolyfett wanted Nintendo to compete and push Sony to a higher level, but Nintendo is tapping out and not competiting, now Sony will just do what they did with the PSP.

so they lost respect from you because of a price cut? What the hell?

They lost respect because of the lackluster sales and the sudden, massive price-cut so early in the 3DS's life.

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#47 KBFloYd
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got big hands brah, eboyishere

then the wiiU controller is perfect for you no?

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#48 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]We will see what happens the day the price cut takes effect. Honestly Nintendo has lost a lot of respect from Coolyfett this week. Coolyfett wanted Nintendo to compete and push Sony to a higher level, but Nintendo is tapping out and not competiting, now Sony will just do what they did with the PSP.

StealthMonkey4

so they lost respect from you because of a price cut? What the hell?

They lost respect because of the lackluster sales and the sudden, massive price-cut so early in the 3DS's life.

whatever happened to "sales don't matter"? Or was that just damage control for the wii selling so well?
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#49 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

You know its compatible with the classic Controller right?

ActicEdge

got big hands brah, i dont even use the normal ps3 controllers, let alone the CC ones for the wii, but i dont like the direction they are going with it

So do I. What's your point? Third party controllers and controller porters exist for a reason you know. If you don't like the direction that's one thing but the whole "the controller doesn't suit me" when there are a million and one ways to solve this issue is just non sense.

The controller itself is bad, the back-up CC is bad, so he's going to have to buy a big third-party CC to play games? Or Nintendo could actually create a controller that isn't awful...?:idea: I don't even think they sell a bigger, third party CC (at least not on Amazon).

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#50 93BlackHawk93
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Coolyfett"]We will see what happens the day the price cut takes effect. Honestly Nintendo has lost a lot of respect from Coolyfett this week. Coolyfett wanted Nintendo to compete and push Sony to a higher level, but Nintendo is tapping out and not competiting, now Sony will just do what they did with the PSP.

StealthMonkey4

so they lost respect from you because of a price cut? What the hell?

They lost respect because of the lackluster sales and the sudden, massive price-cut so early in the 3DS's life.

I don't know how a price-cut is bad. If anything those are very good news for the 3DS. Wasn't 3DS at 250$ overpriced?