does nostalgia impact what we think about games?

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#1 lid1013
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has anyone gone back to play some old favorites and wondered if you would enjoy them today if you never played them before? for example, 2 of the most acclaimed games of all time FFVII and Zelda OOT. these 2 games at the time were unlike any other, FFVII being the pioneer of modern rpgs and zelda OOT being one of the first major 3d action adventures. what if no one played them when they were released and decided to play it now?what would we think of them? especially being compared with todays games?

in my opinion, most of the classic games that are "best games of all time" are only considered that because of nostalgia. in reailty games like the 2 mentioned above have been far surpassed from a design and technological standpoint. So is it that those classic games are really that good, or are we afraid to admit that our old favorites are obsolete in todays standard?

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#2 JAB991
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Yes. Ask anyone who still likes playing GoldenEye.

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#3 Mr_Nordquist
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It impacts some, but not all.

I buy games I've never played for my N64/Dreamcast/SNES, and I'll still enjoy them just like any other games.

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#4 maverick_41
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It impacts some, but not all.

I buy games I've never played for my N64/Dreamcast/SNES, and I'll still enjoy them just like any other games.

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Exactly

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#5 NightmareCV
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Technologically yes they have been far surpassed, but what makes those games still so amazing is the story and how it is told. FFVII is still so much fun because it tells an epic story that lasted longer than most modern games. The characters were easy to like and care about. It's formula is one that has never been copied and will be very difficult to ever copy. OOT is the same way. That is why they are still truly great games. No other formula has been able to out do what they did and are still doing.
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#6 Verge_6
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Sometimes it doesn't really have any impact on how we view the game...and sometimes it has the impact of a bloody meteor. To prove the latter;

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#7 OreoMilkshake
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Probably. I bought Turok 2 last year and could not play that for the life of me. But I don't think it's fair to kick games off of the greatest list just because they don't age well.
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#8 Androvinus
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Yes. Ask anyone who still likes playing GoldenEye.

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lol i was about to say that i think goldeneye kinda sucks now. It hurts to do this but she hasnt aged well
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#9 jdt532
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I just recently started playing FFVII for the first time after buying it off the PS store. So far I think it's ok not the greatest game ever but then I haven't gotten very far yet. The antiquated graphics and constant reading of dialogue take away from the immersion, I'm used to better production value with voice overs. Perhaps if I played this game when it first came out I'd be more impressed.
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#10 Meowmixxvi
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nostalgia does impact of what we think about past games. for instance, i freaking love legend of legaia it was my first rpg game i ever played on the ps1. till this day, i still think its one of the best rpg even with all its flaws.

im pretty sure ff7 wouldve been my favorite if i played that first, but i was a little late with the final fantasy series. i started with ff8, ff9, then ff7. ff8 being my favorite of the series... :)

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I played FF7 a few years back, had to be around 2003. I played it AFTER I had already beaten FFX (my favorite RPG). I LOVED FF7...

I can play SSB for the N64 to date this date and it's still fun. I can play Mario Tennis 64 to this date and it's still fun. I can play Diddy Kong Racing 64 and it's still fun. Starfox multiplayer is still amazing.

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#12 lid1013
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I just recently started playing FFVII for the first time after buying it off the PS store. So far I think it's ok not the greatest game ever but then I haven't gotten very far yet. The antiquated graphics and constant reading of dialogue take away from the immersion, I'm used to better production value with voice overs. Perhaps if I played this game when it first came out I'd be more impressed. jdt532

see? thats exactly what i mean. theres this unknown game for the ps1 called galerians which i played a long time ago and loved. i just played it the other day and every other minute i had to swear because it was so bad.

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yes it does, in huge ways for some game franchises, im willing to bet that a lot of whats said about halo, good or bad, is based off of nostalgia, people not being able to play the original or being able to, back in the day halo one was the best xbox launch title, that pretty much paved the path for the huge battle in system wars if halo 3 is really as good as reviews said it is or not

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I played FF7 a few years back, had to be around 2003. I played it AFTER I had already beaten FFX (my favorite RPG). I LOVED FF7...

I can play SSB for the N64 to date this date and it's still fun. I can play Mario Tennis 64 to this date and it's still fun. I can play Diddy Kong Racing 64 and it's still fun. Starfox multiplayer is still amazing.

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SSB64 can never age. i still put down melee for some good one on one with a friend in SSB64. I always hated mario tennis 64 though
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#15 JangoWuzHere
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Well I played Blasto when I was a kid and loved it and years later I played it again and still love it.

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Yes, it does. A lot. A whole lot of people here will tell you Ocarina of Time is the greatest game ever, but if it was released today, it would be awful. Standards rise with time, and time almost never treats games well. Ocarina of time, FF 7, Goldeneye, and others were all fantastic back in the day, but by todays standards, they are mediocre at best. I still enjoy a few classics, but never as much things released today.
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#17 Salt_The_Fries
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FFVII being the pioneer of modern rpgslid1013
Pardon, what?
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#18 Mr_Nordquist
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Yes, it does. A lot. A whole lot of people here will tell you Ocarina of Time is the greatest game ever, but if it was released today, it would be awful. Standards rise with time, and time almost never treats games well. Ocarina of time, FF 7, Goldeneye, and others were all fantastic back in the day, but by todays standards, they are mediocre at best. I still enjoy a few classics, but never as much things released today.tylergamereview

What if the same excitement and thrill you got when you first played a game like Ocarina of Time has never been met by any other game?

I still play Banjo Kazooie because it's my favorite game, and I like it just as much as I did when I first got it every playthrough. No other game has given me that much enjoyment, so I can easily compare it to new games.

There's no reason Ocarina of Time can't be the best game ever made if more people like that than any other game. Just shows how good of a game it is.

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#19 lid1013
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[QUOTE="lid1013"] FFVII being the pioneer of modern rpgsSalt_The_Fries
Pardon, what?

maybe you misunderstood what i meant. FFVII paved the way for rpgs in North america. rpgs were not that popular b4 ff7. this is what i meant

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[QUOTE="tylergamereview"]Yes, it does. A lot. A whole lot of people here will tell you Ocarina of Time is the greatest game ever, but if it was released today, it would be awful. Standards rise with time, and time almost never treats games well. Ocarina of time, FF 7, Goldeneye, and others were all fantastic back in the day, but by todays standards, they are mediocre at best. I still enjoy a few classics, but never as much things released today.Mr_Nordquist

What if the same excitement and thrill you got when you first played a game like Ocarina of Time has never been met by any other game?

I still play Banjo Kazooie because it's my favorite game, and I like it just as much as I did when I first got it every playthrough. No other game has given me that much enjoyment, so I can easily compare it to new games.

There's no reason Ocarina of Time can't be the best game ever made if more people like that than any other game. Just shows how good of a game it is.

That's the point. By the standards of video games today, those games are awful, but by personal enjoyment, they are timeless. It just depends on how you look at it. For all intents and purposes, Mario is awful as hell. You can only move in one direction, the graphics are pixels, the sound is all beeps and boops, and the story consists of one line. But it is still ridiculously fun. And just about everyone who touched it loved it. I still love it, but I know that compared to a platformer like Uncharted, it is terrible. Everything by standards goes to Uncharted. But I enjoy Mario more than Uncharted. You can't compare games based on how much you enjoyed them and based on how good they actually are. Uncharted is better that Mario, but I enjoyed Mario more than Uncharted. How do I decide which one is better? It would look pretty strange to say "Mario is better than Uncharted because I enjoyed it more". This is how nostalgia effects us. Just because we enjoy the older game more does not mean it is better than newer things today.
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#21 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"][QUOTE="lid1013"] FFVII being the pioneer of modern rpgslid1013

Pardon, what?

maybe you misunderstood what i meant. FFVII paved the way for rpgs in North america. rpgs were not that popular b4 ff7. this is what i meant

You mean JRPG's. RPGs have always been populer in NA just mainly on PC.
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#22 murat8
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actually ya im very nostalgic as i figured out like 3 days ago for the first time ever i actually tried all those demos that come in SSBB and i really enjoyed those old games it made me have some flashbacks :lol: i just wish the demos were longer
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#23 enterawesome
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Not quite. Pac-Man is still awesome, and I wasn't brought up during Pac-Man fever, I first bought Halo in 2007 (which I consider the greatest shooter ever made), I recently got OoT on VC for the first time, and had a blast.
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#24 DeadEndPanda
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if you want to check a game for nostalgia

play it agen, if you like it now, it has nothing to do with nostalgia, its just a good game.

most games that you play when you get older get worse

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#25 LordXelNaga
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Many games are classics not simply because of their ability to remain relevant. A lot of the titles that are valued but pale in comparison to today's offerings are still classics because of their historical importance to gaming. Goldeneye seems widely known to be sub-par as a console FPS, but it is important because it started the design paradigm of console FPS. It was also one of the "must own" titles that everyone had for the 64 along with Mario 64 and LoZ: OoT. Games like these are extremely valuable and while nostalgia is troublesome for objectively evaluating past gaming worth, it can't be used as an excuse to ignore what people may call "classic"