Does PS3 really have hidden "cell" power?

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#1 UDrake
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Apparently it does, and I'd wish to know so. Also, I've heard John Carmack say the X-box 360 is superior, can someone quote this exactly for me.
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#2 specialzed
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Its Possible. Dual Layer blu rays have not been used for games yet.

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#3 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Its Possible. Dual Layer blu rays have not been used for games yet.

specialzed
Dual Layer Blu-ray discs won't change anything. And the CELL has no hidden power, it's all there, just waiting for devs to use it.
Apparently it does, and I'd wish to know so. Also, I've heard John Carmack say the X-box 360 is superior, can someone quote this exactly for me. UDrake
He said it on Twitter, you can take my word for it.
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#4 deactivated-5cf4b2c19c4ab
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Yes, the cell has hidden power. Once it is unlocked humanity will transcend into a higher plane of existence.
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#5 razgriz_101
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Its Possible. Dual Layer blu rays have not been used for games yet.

specialzed

they have pretty sure the first was MGS4 to max out the capacity of one.

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#6 Iantheone
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Yes, the cell has hidden power. Once it is unlocked humanity will transcend into a higher plane of existence. ferret-gamer
We will leave behind our physical bodies and become one with the universe. On topic: The Cell isnt nearly as powerful as everyone makes it out to be. Its slower than most current PC processors.
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#7 edinsftw
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Its Possible. Dual Layer blu rays have not been used for games yet.

specialzed

Oh god...I really am at a loss for words.

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#8 Ly_the_Fairy
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Teh cell mixed with the graphical capabilities of blu ray is why PS3 beats PC in graphics.
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#9 Lucianu
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Definitely, the Hermit Gods blessed the Cell after its creation, so it should have some more untapped power.

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#11 Lucianu
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And btw., it really depends who created the Cell in the first place. Due to its unknown materials and architecture, we have no idea what might happen if it's unlocked. It's possible for us to transcend beyond the physical realm, but it could also be possible for it to destroy the universe and us with it.

Who knows what the purpose of the cell is, but at least we can have a positive thought since we know that the ancient Hermit Gods blessed it after its creation. Who ever created the Cell, it must have ben a being that is more powerful than the mighty Hermit Gods. Who the hell would be more powerful than a God?

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#12 xsatyr86
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Its Possible. Dual Layer blu rays have not been used for games yet.

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Plz tell me you're joking.
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#13 washd111
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no, lock this thread no, it doesn't and it never did.

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#14 Martin_G_N
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Uncharted 2 was first to use 100% of the Cell CPU, I don't think most games pushes it more than 60%.

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#15 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Uncharted 2 was first to use 100% of the Cell CPU, I don't think most games pushes it more than 60%.

Martin_G_N
Like a mod just said, usage doesn't mean anything. I can tell the CELL to run the game alongside calculating PI and make it 100% used, but that doesn't mean I've unlocked the hidden powa of da CELL
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#16 tommyas
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Look at Uncharted 2 or 3. And then realise it has only 512 shared RAM to do so. I find that impressive to say the least.
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#17 super600  Moderator
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No consoles have hidden power.It's called optimization.

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#18 Sushiglutton
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Will be epic when MS releases X720 and Sony just hits the anti-doom-switch on the cell for unlimited power. Will be the end of MS!
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#19 QQabitmoar
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The cell is actually based on ancient Cell-Naga technology. The Cell-Naga forged us all trying to create the perfect gamer. But one day they dissapeared. They left the Cell behind as a reminder to the lesser races that the Progenitors hold unlimited power, and a test for our ingenuity. Thus, once we unlock the true capabilites of the Cell, we will have truly achieved our divine purpose, set by the ancient Cell-Naga who created us.

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#20 YoYo278
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Well the disks can hold 5x times as much data as the 360 so technically it's atleast 5x as powerful. The problem is that most games (even 1st party ones) are optimised on technology reminiscent of a 360, as most developers don't have the technology to make it straight onto a ps3. However as you can see with UC3 and GOW3, they are finally tapping into this power and that is why the ps3 doesn't need to be updated as soon as the 360, it's a much more tactical long term approach.

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#21 Iantheone
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Well the disks can hold 5x times as much data as the 360 so technically it's atleast 5x as powerful.

YoYo278
No. discs dont add anything to the power of the system
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#22 starjet905
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Teh cell mixed with the graphical capabilities of blu ray is why PS3 beats PC in graphics.Ly_the_Fairy
:lol: Win.
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#23 YoYo278
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[QUOTE="YoYo278"]

Well the disks can hold 5x times as much data as the 360 so technically it's atleast 5x as powerful.

Iantheone

No. discs dont add anything to the power of the system




Yes has no bearing on power whatsoever.. i guess that's why supercomputers still run on floppys :lol:

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[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="YoYo278"]

Well the disks can hold 5x times as much data as the 360 so technically it's atleast 5x as powerful.

YoYo278

No. discs dont add anything to the power of the system




Yes has no bearing on power whatsoever.. i guess that's why supercomputers still run on floppys :lol:

Crysis is 7GB and looks better than every PS3 game. The size of the game has very little to do with graphics. Most of a game's size is due to audio and cutscenes.

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[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="YoYo278"]

Well the disks can hold 5x times as much data as the 360 so technically it's atleast 5x as powerful.

YoYo278

No. discs dont add anything to the power of the system




Yes has no bearing on power whatsoever.. i guess that's why supercomputers still run on floppys :lol:

it has power in terms of how fast it can read data off the disc, but that is nothing compared to what the rest of the hardware does.

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#26 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Umm, No, it don't. I keep laughing every time I read someone insisting that the PS3 has some strange hidden power. The Devs can optimize thier code for so long, getting more out of thier code, but hidden power? The PS3 was sold on empty promises, nothing more.

It is still a good media center, and Sony throw alot of money after first partys to ensure some good titles. They are compared to the hardware impressive to say the least, but that is not anything power related, that is the will sweat and tears of the Devs that does that, not any hidden power.

The main problem with the 1st partys on the PS3, is that they all feel so confined, in order to make good looking graphics, you are essensially forced to put players in small rooms and corridors, to uphold the graphical capabilities. That and a whole lot of streaming.

So No hidden power of the cell, but REALLY talented Devs.

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Will be epic when MS releases X720 and Sony just hits the anti-doom-switch on the cell for unlimited power. Will be the end of MS! Sushiglutton
Lol, that would be funny :P
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#28 loosingENDS
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It does, you need many cells though, like 100 PS3 combined, then you can have that power unlocked and PS3 can actually run Crysis 2 in true HD like xbox 360 and not sub HD and blurry

Hopefully next gen Sony wotn promote their hardware, like the not needed Blu ray and cell and provide a great GPU like 360 does, than have the customer pay for Sony hardware research and market break

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#29 JohnF111
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Its like Oil, everyone knows it's there it's just hard to get at.

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#30 mrmusicman247
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Well it doesn't have unhidden power.
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#31 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Its more of a fanboy term conjured up on forums. I don't care which is more powerful really because if dev's can't use "hidden" powers of either console then its not worth arguing about. Its about what we see and have seen. Not something we haven't

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#32 Khoo1992
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The Cell is a pretty powerful thing, but the weak GPU and RAM is the main weakness of PS3.

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no. /thread
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Teh cell mixed with the graphical capabilities of blu ray is why PS3 beats PC in graphics.Ly_the_Fairy

Tis akt ov genis make me laff.

But serously: PC>XBOX 360>PS3

But PS3 has more stuffs, Xbox has preferable franchises and PC is held back by multi-platform games and Indie Developers.

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It does, you need many cells though, like 100 PS3 combined, then you can have that power unlocked and PS3 can actually run Crysis 2 in true HD like xbox 360 and not sub HD and blurry

Hopefully next gen Sony wotn promote their hardware, like the not needed Blu ray and cell and provide a great GPU like 360 does, than have the customer pay for Sony hardware research and market break

loosingENDS
You do realise there's barely a difference between xbox and PS3 hardware don't you?
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#36 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It does, you need many cells though, like 100 PS3 combined, then you can have that power unlocked and PS3 can actually run Crysis 2 in true HD like xbox 360 and not sub HD and blurry

Hopefully next gen Sony wotn promote their hardware, like the not needed Blu ray and cell and provide a great GPU like 360 does, than have the customer pay for Sony hardware research and market break

kraken2109
You do realise there's barely a difference between xbox and PS3 hardware don't you?

The only element of truth to his statement is that the Cell was designed for parallel computing.
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]Teh cell mixed with the graphical capabilities of blu ray is why PS3 beats PC in graphics.DARKNESSxEAGLE

Tis akt ov genis make me laff.

But serously: PC>XBOX 360>PS3

But PS3 has more stuffs, Xbox has preferable franchises and PC is held back by multi-platform games and Indie Developers.

how is the PC held back by Indie developers??? >.>
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Indeed it does, the Cells secret power, once unlocked will create 4D graphics, at 120 frames per second. It will be able to cure cancer, please your girlfriend better then you all while being able to churn out thesis papers for your dissertation and spinning a DJ booth. It will run on no energy, no power, nothing and in doing so break all theories about the conservation of energy. It will know how transcend time and space, but will stay in your living room console because it finds the plastic black to be incredibly slimming.

..

Which naturally flows into my final point, it knows something is slimming because it can think for itself. Its self conscious, sentient. What I am saying of course is that Sony invented Skynet.

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#39 r12qi
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techincally Cell is very futureproof. sony can just put two of them, high end end graphic card (somthing like kepler) and 6GB ram. and you have PS4 already

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techincally Cell is very futureproof. sony can just put two of them, high end end graphic card (somthing like kepler) and 6GB ram. and you have PS4 already

r12qi

Not really. We now have APUs out now and 6/8/10/whatever core CPUs coming out that will totally destroy the Cell in performance.

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#41 theuncharted34
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Technically it does. It has a very high theoretical performance, but that can't be reached because of efficiency issues. They already had to disable 1 spe to improve chip yieldings on the cell.

Does it have *teh hidden power* that can actually be used? No. :P

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#42 jimmypsn
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NO cell doesn't have any extra cell power. Ridiculous for something for Sony to fabricate. Like Toy Story graphics for the ps2.

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#43 soiheardyoulike
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The ps3 DOES have Cell's power. Then again Cell kinda was a lame dbz villain but that is just me.

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[QUOTE="r12qi"]

techincally Cell is very futureproof. sony can just put two of them, high end end graphic card (somthing like kepler) and 6GB ram. and you have PS4 already

rpgs_shall_rule

Not really. We now have APUs out now and 6/8/10/whatever core CPUs coming out that will totally destroy the Cell in performance.

released date? ps3 is released 2006.

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#45 Genesis-X
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The cell is like Goku.

Always improving.

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[QUOTE="DARKNESSxEAGLE"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]Teh cell mixed with the graphical capabilities of blu ray is why PS3 beats PC in graphics.ShadowDeathX

Tis akt ov genis make me laff.

But serously: PC>XBOX 360>PS3

But PS3 has more stuffs, Xbox has preferable franchises and PC is held back by multi-platform games and Indie Developers.

how is the PC held back by Indie developers??? >.>

yup, i'd like an answer on that too.

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It does, you need many cells though, like 100 PS3 combined, then you can have that power unlocked and PS3 can actually run Crysis 2 in true HD like xbox 360 and not sub HD and blurry

Hopefully next gen Sony wotn promote their hardware, like the not needed Blu ray and cell and provide a great GPU like 360 does, than have the customer pay for Sony hardware research and market break

loosingENDS
Crysis 2 on the 360 as well runs at sub HD and disgusting Framrate dont forget the pop ups, and the poor AA which is like 1XMSAA. While Killzone 3 on the the ps3 looks beter and still runs full glorious 720p HD, solid Framrate, no pop ups and fantastic MLAA which = 8XMSAA. And you think DVD is beter than Blueray? :lol: well let me let you know 360 is pulling multiplate games back from utilizing full ps3 hardware e.g MLAA on the ps3's dev kit. And guess what? Cell + Bluray allows ps3 exclusives to have ZERO load times(Killzone 3, Uncharted 2, God of War3) no install REQUIRED :D , now tell if 360 can do that :P
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[QUOTE="specialzed"]

Its Possible. Dual Layer blu rays have not been used for games yet.

razgriz_101

they have pretty sure the first was MGS4 to max out the capacity of one.

mgs4 was only 32 gigs.

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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It does, you need many cells though, like 100 PS3 combined, then you can have that power unlocked and PS3 can actually run Crysis 2 in true HD like xbox 360 and not sub HD and blurry

Hopefully next gen Sony wotn promote their hardware, like the not needed Blu ray and cell and provide a great GPU like 360 does, than have the customer pay for Sony hardware research and market break

monkeysmoke

Crysis 2 on the 360 as well runs at sub HD and disgusting Framrate dont forget the pop ups, and the poor AA which is like 1XMSAA. While Killzone 3 on the the ps3 looks beter and still runs full glorious 720p HD, solid Framrate, no pop ups and fantastic MLAA which = 8XMSAA. And you think DVD is beter than Blueray? :lol: well let me let you know 360 is pulling multiplate games back from utilizing full ps3 hardware e.g MLAA on the ps3's dev kit. And guess what? Cell + Bluray allows ps3 exclusives to have ZERO load times(Killzone 3, Uncharted 2, God of War3) no install REQUIRED :D , now tell if 360 can do that :P

so much disinformation and opinion. Tip: all ps3 exclusives that don't require an install require a comprehensive gig+ size cache on the hard drive which is why they take about a minute for the initial load time.

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#50 monkeysmoke
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[QUOTE="monkeysmoke"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

It does, you need many cells though, like 100 PS3 combined, then you can have that power unlocked and PS3 can actually run Crysis 2 in true HD like xbox 360 and not sub HD and blurry

Hopefully next gen Sony wotn promote their hardware, like the not needed Blu ray and cell and provide a great GPU like 360 does, than have the customer pay for Sony hardware research and market break

WilliamRLBaker

Crysis 2 on the 360 as well runs at sub HD and disgusting Framrate dont forget the pop ups, and the poor AA which is like 1XMSAA. While Killzone 3 on the the ps3 looks beter and still runs full glorious 720p HD, solid Framrate, no pop ups and fantastic MLAA which = 8XMSAA. And you think DVD is beter than Blueray? :lol: well let me let you know 360 is pulling multiplate games back from utilizing full ps3 hardware e.g MLAA on the ps3's dev kit. And guess what? Cell + Bluray allows ps3 exclusives to have ZERO load times(Killzone 3, Uncharted 2, God of War3) no install REQUIRED :D , now tell if 360 can do that :P

so much disinformation and opinion. Tip: all ps3 exclusives that don't require an install require a comprehensive gig+ size cache on the hard drive which is why they take about a minute for the initial load time.

What the disinformation or opinions with what i said?? :( chache or no chache its a fact that Killzome 3 has no load times nor mandatory install, after the first load its a smooth non stop gameplay to the END :) which 360 game offers such experience :(