Does Sony think they can capture the Smash Bros. audience

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#1 nameless12345
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...with All Stars Battle?

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Sony also suffers from a lack of actual mascots. Crash used to be big in the PS1 days but now he's irrelevant. And some characters really don't fit in what's supposed to be a "cartoony" fighter.

It all really looks more like a bad april's fools prank than an actual game.

The only people who would buy into it are the biggest Sony fans while everyone else will rather play Smash or "serious" fighters.

Discuss. :P

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You jelly

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#3 Nanomage
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If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

nameless12345

No,most of them buy into it because it´s a nintendo game with all the characters they know and love,regardless of quality.

It´s all about the brand,not standards.

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That game would be lucky to sell over 2 million copies.

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#5 Nintendo_Ownes7
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I plan on getting it I love Smash Bros. and I also like Sony first party IPs.

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#6 dommeus
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I don't think they expect Nintendo owners to jump ship purely for All Stars. It fills a genre that has yet to be filled.

I'm gonna buy it for my uni house. I reckon it will be a laugh with 4 drunk players.

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Smash gets the huge sales it does because it's a competent fighter with a sh!tload of fan service. All Stars might have the same luck, who knows. It looks like a competent fighter, different enough from smash, but...
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...with All Stars Battle?

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Sony also suffers from a lack of actual mascots. Crash used to be big in the PS1 days but now he's irrelevant. And some characters really don't fit in what's supposed to be a "cartoony" fighter.

It all really looks more like a bad april's fools prank than an actual game.

The only people who would buy into it are the biggest Sony fans while everyone else will rather play Smash or "serious" fighters.

Discuss. :P

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If it's good and Sony advertises it well, it'll sell. Simple as that.
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Assuming that gamers have to pick between one or the other and can't enjoy both :roll:

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#10 StatusShuffle
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Since there's already a civil war in the SSB series between Melee and Brawl, this is the perfect time to steal them.
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...with All Stars Battle?

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Sony also suffers from a lack of actual mascots. Crash used to be big in the PS1 days but now he's irrelevant. And some characters really don't fit in what's supposed to be a "cartoony" fighter.

It all really looks more like a bad april's fools prank than an actual game.

The only people who would buy into it are the biggest Sony fans while everyone else will rather play Smash or "serious" fighters.

Discuss. :P

nameless12345

The people who like Smash Bros may or may not flock over to this title. It depends upon the quality. A lot of Sony fans have asked for this type of game for awhile and there's this preconception that only Nintendo can make this sort of fighting game with the 2D plane and four fighters on the same screen. The devs have already admitted that they have taken inspiration from Smash Bros but they are putting in an effort to help differentiate it from Smash Bros to be its own fun fighting game.

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Na, nintendo fans actually have taste.

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#13 ebrezzy1
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another good game coming to PS3:cool:

answering question: god i hope not ...we don't need kids:P

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#14 Chutebox
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Just a game dude, no reason to get so upset.

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#15 meetroid8
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The Smash Bros audience is made up almost exclusively of Nintendo fans. The whole appeal of the franchise is that it's made up of Nintendo characters. It doesn't have much to do with the gameplay,
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#16 clr84651
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No, they think they can make a game that a lot of people will enjoy. That's it don't make too much of it!

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#17 finalstar2007
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Pretty sure Sony and even PlayStation fans couldnt care less about Smash Bros or its audience..well i dont :P.. Sony making this game because believe it or not fans been requesting it for so long now, fans been always asking for a fighting game between PS's characters fighting against each other and what you know? they'r bringing one.

its a new game so i dont know why ppl always compare it to another game on another system.. boy how people nag all the time

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I'm pretty sure any popular video game company receives requests from fans for an all-out fighting game between their famous characters. That is probably why Sony chose to do this and also the fact that SSBB is a successful game and they want to try something down that path.

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Nanomage

No,most of them buy into it because it´s a nintendo game with all the characters they know and love,regardless of quality.

It´s all about the brand,not standards.

I believe that is the case and its not really standards. I would say there are tons of games on par with a first party Nintendo game. Maybe it is quality but I doubt fans of SSBB have high standards or any fan of a series.
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Na, nintendo fans actually have taste.

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your jelly becuase 360 never gets new Ip's or even supposed rip offs.

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#20 Blake135
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No they wanna capture the Fans who have wanted a Sony IP Smash up since..idk the PS1 days ?

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They aren't trying to capture the SMB audience because that would be mean they would have to cater to people who love Nintendo, which makes no sense. All Stars main purpose is to cater to the Playstation fanbase that has been around since PS1, which is a **** ton of people.
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...with All Stars Battle?

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Sony also suffers from a lack of actual mascots. Crash used to be big in the PS1 days but now he's irrelevant. And some characters really don't fit in what's supposed to be a "cartoony" fighter.

It all really looks more like a bad april's fools prank than an actual game.

The only people who would buy into it are the biggest Sony fans while everyone else will rather play Smash or "serious" fighters.

Discuss. :P

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The smash brother audiences is a bunch of kids,my child and all his friends are to,SB is a kiddy game that no respected fighting game lover would ever touch,is popular because of Mario,that game done on any other console with other character it would sold like crap or close. Which sadly make it admit that i don't see a big bright future for the series on PS3,is not mario which is the selling point of the game more than anything,don't believe me see Mario and sonic at the Olympics sales.
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Definitely. Not only steal, but crown a new king in this genre. Sorry ssb, you had your time, now it's time to step aside. Prepare to be Dominated. :cool: Jelly? ;)
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I'd rather play Smash 64 than this piece of garbage.
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#25 2013th
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only people trying to capture the smash audience are nintendo

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I'm thinking this game will bomb on sales, so... nope.

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first of all I highly doubt that they are trying to get the nintendo fans, they are doing it for the PS fans. second, the game sucks balls. The beta is absolute crap. The gmae is so dull and boring it will probably get 7s or lower all around.
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#28 Gxgear
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That game would be lucky to sell over 2 million copies.

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Little conservative with that number there eh? 2 million is amazing for any game short of established blockbuster franchises.

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#29 HaloPimp978
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No they are just doing it for the Sony fans, Ninty fans would still bash this game by calling it a ripoff.

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#30 SolidSnake35
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It will be meh, just like SSB.
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Definitely. Not only steal, but crown a new king in this genre. Sorry ssb, you had your time, now it's time to step aside. Prepare to be Dominated. :cool: Jelly? ;)ispeakfact

Not a chance! :)

I think a ton of third party characters are gonna be on the new SSBB because of how successful Brawl was. Throw in some HD grpahics with a mix of Nintendo and iconic thrid party chars like Megaman..(I can dream) and you've got a huge hit.

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quote from someone from neogaf [quote=""]I just played Brawl last night since my friends asked me to.. It took me awhile to get used to brawl again because I felt that brawl was slow and too floaty right after played Sony Battle Royale. I realized that Sony was a lot of fun because of it's speed and how fast the battle became hectic when it come to free for all.

also

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If you think Brawl is too floaty and slow (which it is, no argument there, that's why Melee/64 will always be the better games) download Project M. All you need is an SD card, there is no hacking of the Wii involved whatsoever, and every character is undergoing massive balancing changes to fit the new Melee-inspired gameplay.
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#34 Mario1331
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it probably wont sell that well but sony fans will probably eat it up. thats who they are marketing towards anyway.

ima play it dont know if im going to buy it

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They would have trouble capturing their own audience.

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...with All Stars Battle?

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Sony also suffers from a lack of actual mascots. Crash used to be big in the PS1 days but now he's irrelevant. And some characters really don't fit in what's supposed to be a "cartoony" fighter.

It all really looks more like a bad april's fools prank than an actual game.

The only people who would buy into it are the biggest Sony fans while everyone else will rather play Smash or "serious" fighters.

Discuss. :P

nameless12345

You have no idea what you are talking about. First, it is obviously Sony's answer to SSB, but it does not try to replicate it with Sony characters. It is it's own thing, and it does it surprisingly well. It doesn't play like SSB at all, nor does it look like it. The game doesn't give the impression that it is trying to either.

On the talk of mascots, you're wrong again. There were 5 characters from Mario in SSB, there were 4 from Pokemon. Every character announced from All Stars has been a 1 per franchise reveal. The most recognizable characters in gaming may be Nintendo's mascots, but they were scraping the barrel way more than I think All Stars will.

Finally, it's actually fun. I've played the beta and, while it needs to be refined, they're on the right track. I'll wait for reviews before I buy, but it is not a cheap gimmicky cash grab. It is a well thought out brawler that makes it's own identity rather than trying to shamelessly copy the king of the genre. I respect that a lot.

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They're not trying to, they are going after the Sony audience.

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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

...with All Stars Battle?

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Sony also suffers from a lack of actual mascots. Crash used to be big in the PS1 days but now he's irrelevant. And some characters really don't fit in what's supposed to be a "cartoony" fighter.

It all really looks more like a bad april's fools prank than an actual game.

The only people who would buy into it are the biggest Sony fans while everyone else will rather play Smash or "serious" fighters.

Discuss. :P

RandomWinner

You have no idea what you are talking about. First, it is obviously Sony's answer to SSB, but it does not try to replicate it with Sony characters. It is it's own thing, and it does it surprisingly well. It doesn't play like SSB at all, nor does it look like it. The game doesn't give the impression that it is trying to either.

On the talk of mascots, you're wrong again. There were 5 characters from Mario in SSB, there were 4 from Pokemon. Every character announced from All Stars has been a 1 per franchise reveal. The most recognizable characters in gaming may be Nintendo's mascots, but they were scraping the barrel way more than I think All Stars will.

Finally, it's actually fun. I've played the beta and, while it needs to be refined, they're on the right track. I'll wait for reviews before I buy, but it is not a cheap gimmicky cash grab. It is a well thought out brawler that makes it's own identity rather than trying to shamelessly copy the king of the genre. I respect that a lot.

spot on post. will laugh how it'll get ignored though
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

...with All Stars Battle?

If so, that's pretty naive imho. The Smash Bros. audience is not easy to please and have high standards. They won't just buy into a cheap rip-off just because it looks and plays similar to Smash.

Sony also suffers from a lack of actual mascots. Crash used to be big in the PS1 days but now he's irrelevant. And some characters really don't fit in what's supposed to be a "cartoony" fighter.

It all really looks more like a bad april's fools prank than an actual game.

The only people who would buy into it are the biggest Sony fans while everyone else will rather play Smash or "serious" fighters.

Discuss. :P

RandomWinner

You have no idea what you are talking about. First, it is obviously Sony's answer to SSB, but it does not try to replicate it with Sony characters. It is it's own thing, and it does it surprisingly well. It doesn't play like SSB at all, nor does it look like it. The game doesn't give the impression that it is trying to either.

On the talk of mascots, you're wrong again. There were 5 characters from Mario in SSB, there were 4 from Pokemon. Every character announced from All Stars has been a 1 per franchise reveal. The most recognizable characters in gaming may be Nintendo's mascots, but they were scraping the barrel way more than I think All Stars will.

Finally, it's actually fun. I've played the beta and, while it needs to be refined, they're on the right track. I'll wait for reviews before I buy, but it is not a cheap gimmicky cash grab. It is a well thought out brawler that makes it's own identity rather than trying to shamelessly copy the king of the genre. I respect that a lot.

QFT.

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i'm looking forward to the Sony game