Does the 360 "only shooters" argument still apply?

Do you guys think that the variety of games on the 360 has gotten rid of the "360 only has shooters" argument or do you believe that the top rated games on the console in the future will be shooters?

I personally think 360 does have more of a variety of game genres than the original Xbox did but I don't think it's reached that stage where people don't think of shooters mainly when they think of a 360. I still think the Playstation brand name has a stronger variety of games but I can see MS working their way up.

I definitely think the "only shooters" argument has declined because of games like Lost Odyssey, Banjo Threeie, Forza 2 and Blue Dragon. Then again, when you look at the best upcoming 360 games, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Bioshock seem to top most lists.

Anyway, what do you guys think? Does the 360 "only shooters" argument still apply or is it no more?

probably not. but i only got mine for the shooters, and very little of anything else interests me (not cause i dont like microsoft or the 360. if it does interest me i might as well get it) anyway, my 360 and my pc are my shooter consoles (well im no sure what pc is classified as) but the 360 does have a bigger variety of games now.

CLARIFICATION: I didnt mean the 360 has a larger variety than pc. pc still has the most. besieds party games 

In reality......No

In the eyes of most people.....Yeah it probably still does

Nope

Dead Rising, Mass Effect, Kameo, PGR3, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Forza Motorsport 2, Fable 2 etc...... 

First of all, Mass Effect is an RPG, not shooter. But I agree with everything else you said.TaCoDuDe

Same.

Considering the only anticipated 360 FPS is Halo 3, whereas there is: Lost Odyysey, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Cry On and Infinite Discovery on the RPG front, NO.
evilbarbarian

Honestly though......I think lots of 360 owners haven't even heard of any of those RPGs beyond Mass Effect and maybe Blue Dragon

Considering the only anticipated 360 FPS is Halo 3, whereas there is: Lost Odyysey, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Cry On and Infinite Discovery on the RPG front, NO.
evilbarbarian

Yeah, leave out BioShock, COD4, Unreal Tournament 3 like they not coming on the X360... 

That argument is just fanboys grasping for straws. It carries about as much weight as the "Wii is teh kiddy" argument. The Xbox 360 has many, many great games that aren't shooters. Kameo and Elder Scrolls come top mind.SmashBrosLegend

In all reality though you have to agree that most stereotypes are true for the most part (but not the ENTIRE part) I mean to say that 360 has only shooters is obviously not true.  But to say that it has a lot of shooters and does (or will) have more shooters than the other consoles is probably not false.  Also same can go to the Wii.  To say ALL Wii games are kiddy is not true, but to say that the console does (or will) have more "kiddie-type" games than other consoles is probably not false.  It's just each console catering to it's audience and that's where the stereotypes come from.

That argument is just fanboys grasping for straws. It carries about as much weight as the "Wii is teh kiddy" argument. The Xbox 360 has many, many great games that aren't shooters. Kameo and Elder Scrolls come top mind.SmashBrosLegend

*clears throat*

6 out of the top 10 games on the Xbox460 are shooters

Shooters sales are 3 to 1 for other genres on the Xbox360

Since the Debut of XBL shooters has been the number one game played on it.

Key Franchise that represents the Xbox is a shooter.

Shooters has the highest attach rate than any other genre on Xbox360.

I think it justified to call it a "shooter console" 

Absolutely not, Right now if I were to list my top 10 360 games they would be:

1. Rainbow Six Vegas
2. Oblivion
3. Gears of War
4. Dead Rising
5. NHL 07
6. PGR 3
7. Rockstar Table Tennis
8. GRAW
9. Splinter Cell Double Agent
10. Crackdown

Only 3 of those are shooters. I even think that the Xbox was unfairly labeled as "shooters only" when it had great games like KOTOR, Splintercell, Jade Empire, Ninja Gaiden and many others. This time MS has just put forward a concerted effort to completely eliminate that label.

Absolutely not, Right now if I were to list my top 10 360 games they would be:

1. Rainbow Six Vegas Shooter
   
2. Oblivion slasher at least compared to any other Scroll game.
3. Gears of War shooter
4. Dead Rising you blow up a lot of stuff
   
5. NHL 07 Sports
   
6. PGR 3 sports
   
7. Rockstar Table Tennis sports
8. GRAW shooter/b>
   
9. Splinter Cell Double Agent stea.. meh, shooter
   
10. Crackdown shooter, you basically blow up a bunch of guys

pundog

Pretty much.

Do you guys think that the variety of games on the 360 has gotten rid of the "360 only has shooters" argument or do you believe that the top rated games on the console in the future will be shooters?

I personally think 360 does have more of a variety of game genres than the original Xbox did but I don't think it's reached that stage where people don't think of shooters mainly when they think of a 360. I still think the Playstation brand name has a stronger variety of games but I can see MS working their way up.

I definitely think the "only shooters" argument has declined because of games like Lost Odyssey, Banjo Threeie, Forza 2 and Blue Dragon. Then again, when you look at the best upcoming 360 games, Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Bioshock seem to top most lists.

Anyway, what do you guys think? Does the 360 "only shooters" argument still apply or is it no more?

the-very-best

Given the right person any arguement is plausable. (for morons) 

[QUOTE="pundog"]

Absolutely not, Right now if I were to list my top 10 360 games they would be:

1. Rainbow Six Vegas Shooter
   
2. Oblivion slasher at least compared to any other Scroll game.
3. Gears of War shooter
4. Dead Rising you blow up a lot of stuff
   
5. NHL 07 Sports
   
6. PGR 3 sports
   
7. Rockstar Table Tennis sports
8. GRAW shooter/b>
   
9. Splinter Cell Double Agent stea.. meh, shooter
   
10. Crackdown shooter, you basically blow up a bunch of guys

loco145

Pretty much.

[QUOTE="pundog"]

Absolutely not, Right now if I were to list my top 10 360 games they would be:

1. Rainbow Six Vegas Shooter
   
2. Oblivion slasher at least compared to any other Scroll game.
3. Gears of War shooter
4. Dead Rising you blow up a lot of stuff
   
5. NHL 07 Sports
   
6. PGR 3 sports
   
7. Rockstar Table Tennis sports
8. GRAW shooter/b>
   
9. Splinter Cell Double Agent stea.. meh, shooter
   
10. Crackdown shooter, you basically blow up a bunch of guys

loco145

Pretty much.

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="pundog"]

Absolutely not, Right now if I were to list my top 10 360 games they would be:

1. Rainbow Six Vegas Shooter
   
2. Oblivion slasher at least compared to any other Scroll game.
3. Gears of War shooter
4. Dead Rising you blow up a lot of stuff
   
5. NHL 07 Sports
   
6. PGR 3 sports
   
7. Rockstar Table Tennis sports
8. GRAW shooter/b>
   
9. Splinter Cell Double Agent stea.. meh, shooter
   
10. Crackdown shooter, you basically blow up a bunch of guys

taker42

Pretty much.

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="pundog"]

Absolutely not, Right now if I were to list my top 10 360 games they would be:

1. Rainbow Six Vegas Shooter
   
2. Oblivion slasher at least compared to any other Scroll game.
3. Gears of War shooter
4. Dead Rising you blow up a lot of stuff
   
5. NHL 07 Sports
   
6. PGR 3 sports
   
7. Rockstar Table Tennis sports
8. GRAW shooter/b>
   
9. Splinter Cell Double Agent stea.. meh, shooter
   
10. Crackdown shooter, you basically blow up a bunch of guys

loco145

Pretty much.

[QUOTE="taker42"][QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="pundog"]

Absolutely not, Right now if I were to list my top 10 360 games they would be:

1. Rainbow Six Vegas Shooter
   
2. Oblivion slasher at least compared to any other Scroll game.
3. Gears of War shooter
4. Dead Rising you blow up a lot of stuff
   
5. NHL 07 Sports
   
6. PGR 3 sports
   
7. Rockstar Table Tennis sports
8. GRAW shooter/b>
   
9. Splinter Cell Double Agent stea.. meh, shooter
   
10. Crackdown shooter, you basically blow up a bunch of guys

loco145

Pretty much.

You have guns in GTA, no? More action based? What does that even have to do with your argument? For Thief, you can shoot with your bow or crossbow. Heck what about Hitman, that has guns in it.
taker42

From the Wikipedia:

"Shooter games cover a fairly broad spectrum of genres that have the commonality of controlling a character who is usually armed with a firearm that can be freely aimed."

So yeah, they are shooters.

From the Wikipedia:

"Shooter games cover a fairly broad spectrum of genres that have the commonality of controlling a character who is usually armed with a firearm that can be freely aimed."

So yeah, they are shooters.

loco145

I'm convinced that the 360 never was a "shooter only" console.TrueReligion_

yeah I totaly disagree with "shooter only", but I do agree with "shooter console" 

[QUOTE="loco145"]

From the Wikipedia:

"Shooter games cover a fairly broad spectrum of genres that have the commonality of controlling a character who is usually armed with a firearm that can be freely aimed."

So yeah, they are shooters.

pundog

I can defined it better. If it has a cross-hair and can move the gun with analog. It's a shooter. 

[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"]I'm convinced that the 360 never was a "shooter only" console.shungokustasu

yeah I totaly disagree with "shooter only", but I do agree with "shooter console"

Yeah, it has alot of other games, but there is an abundant amount of shooters.  

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="loco145"]

From the Wikipedia:

"Shooter games cover a fairly broad spectrum of genres that have the commonality of controlling a character who is usually armed with a firearm that can be freely aimed."

So yeah, they are shooters.

shungokustasu

I can defined it better. If it has a cross-hair and can move the gun with analog. It's a shooter.

I prefeer "gun-toting muscle men action games" myself.

[QUOTE="evilbarbarian"]Considering the only anticipated 360 FPS is Halo 3, whereas there is: Lost Odyysey, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Cry On and Infinite Discovery on the RPG front, NO.
MikeE21286

Honestly though......I think lots of 360 owners haven't even heard of any of those RPGs beyond Mass Effect and maybe Blue Dragon

So true, but the number of action games & Platformers those are what sell systems to casuals anyway.... Only gamers play Rpg's that are not Zelda

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="loco145"]

From the Wikipedia:

"Shooter games cover a fairly broad spectrum of genres that have the commonality of controlling a character who is usually armed with a firearm that can be freely aimed."

So yeah, they are shooters.

shungokustasu

I can defined it better. If it has a cross-hair and can move the gun with analog. It's a shooter. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="loco145"]

From the Wikipedia:

"Shooter games cover a fairly broad spectrum of genres that have the commonality of controlling a character who is usually armed with a firearm that can be freely aimed."

So yeah, they are shooters.

pundog

I can defined it better. If it has a cross-hair and can move the gun with analog. It's a shooter.

Stealth games are shooters. Contra is a shoot'em up. Big Difference! 

[QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="pundog"][QUOTE="loco145"]

From the Wikipedia:

"Shooter games cover a fairly broad spectrum of genres that have the commonality of controlling a character who is usually armed with a firearm that can be freely aimed."

So yeah, they are shooters.

shungokustasu

I can defined it better. If it has a cross-hair and can move the gun with analog. It's a shooter.

Stealth games are shooters. Contra is a shoot'em up. Big Difference! 

As a legitimate argument? No, it's passed, and has been dead for a while.
But the stigma will remain in the eyes of some. And the fact that the defining games for the system so far have been Perfect Dark Zero, Call of Duty 2, Gears of War, and the upcoming Halo 3 doesn't help much.

The variety is there, definately. Games like PGR3, Kameo, Viva Pinata, Dead Rising, Castlevania: SoTN, hell, even the abomination that is Fusion Frenzy 2 establishes a variety of games available which reaches far beyond the realm of "shooters". And I am convinced that over time as the library continues to grow, the perception will shrivel up and die.