Does the next gen begin this fall...for PC at least?

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#1 xxxLUGZxxx
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With Battfield 3, along with the release of the Bulldozer chip and ATI 7xxx cards, it appears as though the next gen of gaming will begin this fall for the PC.

Agree or disagree?

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#2 Moriarity_
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I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.
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#3 vashkey
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Well, maybe if a slew of PC games start coming out with higher standards. I would argue that maybe we're already in the new age of PC gaming what with the mass adoption of free to play games and they're starting to get MUCH better and digital distribution starting to really take over.
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I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.Moriarity_
You sir,won the thread.
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#5 xxxLUGZxxx
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I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.Moriarity_

There are gens for PC's...just compare games like Crysis to games made in the early 2000's....that's called generational leaps in technology.

I know the goal of many PC elitists on these forums is to separate their platform of choice from consoles by any means necessary. But being obtuse and almost intentionally missing the point of the OP doesn't seem very wise.

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#6 el3m2tigre
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I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.Moriarity_

It definitely has gens, it's just all on one platform.

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#7 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.xxxLUGZxxx

There are gens for PC's...just compare games like Crysis to games made in the early 2000's....that's called generational leaps in technology.

I know the goal of many PC elitists on these forums is to separate their platform of choice from consoles by any means necessary. But being obtuse and almost intentionally missing the point of the OP doesn't seem very wise.

Even in the console world, generations aren't defined by technical or graphical leaps anymore. Nintendo changed all that. It's really just an arbitrary designation now indicating when a group of consoles exist and compete with each other.

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#8 GamerEye
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[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.el3m2tigre

It definitely has gens, it's just all on one platform.

Im no PC gamer or PC geniuse, but, wouldnt generations for a PC be like release of new operating Systems? such as how windows was Me, 2000, xp, vista, and now 7, soon to be 8? (I'll admit I dont know the names of all the previous windows operating systems)

Granted, with consoles, the next gen generally happens when a graphics leap is made and said consoles's games cant be played on its predisesor.

But with PCs, since newer, more powerful hardware is always being released for them, they're graphics and speed and other stuff is always advancing while consoles only advance every 5 years about, so wouldnt it be just better to classify each PC gen by an OS? Just saying

Again Im no PC expert.

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#9 N30F3N1X
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Nope, the next gen for PC begun on November 13th, 2007.

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#10 xxxLUGZxxx
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Well, anyone who pays attention to PC hardware will see generations right in front of them.

AMD is releasing their new CPU architecure, followed by their new generation of ATI GPU's. When combined with games like Battlefield 3, PC gaming is about to take a generational leap in technology and graphics.

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#11 Darth-Samus
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I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.Moriarity_

I agree I don't really consider it in terms of "generation". So for me, excluding PC it's pretty obvious the next generation starts next year whenever the Wii U comes out. If you were to consider PC as generational...well i dunno. I guess when Bf3 comes out? No idea really...:?

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#12 SakusEnvoy
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Well, anyone who pays attention to PC hardware will see generations right in front of them.

AMD is releasing their new CPU architecure, followed by their new generation of ATI GPU's. When combined with games like Battlefield 3, PC gaming is about to take a generational leap in technology and graphics.

xxxLUGZxxx

A new "generation" of hardware is released pretty much every year. Not just from AMD either (since when do they define things?).

PC hardware doesn't just suddenly advance by leaps and bounds, it advances incrimentally through a constant stream of upgrades.

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#13 Darth_Kane
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Nope, the next gen for PC begun on November 13th, 2007.N30F3N1X

If PC had gens, this is when the next one began

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#14 nutcrackr
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No it doesn't begin this fall on PC. BF3 is not an appreciable "step" in quality from what we have seen over the last few years.
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#15 SparkyProtocol
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Bulldozer comes out soon? When will the Quad and Hexacore variants come out then?
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#16 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.Darth-Samus

I agree I don't really consider it in terms of "generation". So for me, excluding PC it's pretty obvious the next generation starts next year whenever the Wii U comes out. If you were to consider PC as generational...well i dunno. I guess when Bf3 comes out? No idea really...:?

IMO, the generational concept in general is pretty silly. The Wii U signifies the next generation of Nintendo hardware -- but all the other systems will still happily be prodding along in the current gen. So that makes the Wii U the 'winner' of next-gen by default until a new system launches, even if the 360/PS3 outsell it and receive the same multiplat software.

If one of the three console manufacturers arbitrarily decided to release a new system every 3 years, which it could do if it wanted to, it would basically screw up the whole generational concept. People would constantly be splitting things up into 3 year "gens" just because one console manufacturer decided to go crazy and constantly release new hardware.

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#17 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Nope, the next gen for PC begun on November 13th, 2007.Darth_Kane

If PC had gens, this is when the next one began

Sounds like broscience to me.
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#18 sami117
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pc gaming is already a gen ahead of consoles... but pc gamin is not tied to generations... it is infinite

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#19 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

Well, anyone who pays attention to PC hardware will see generations right in front of them.

AMD is releasing their new CPU architecure, followed by their new generation of ATI GPU's. When combined with games like Battlefield 3, PC gaming is about to take a generational leap in technology and graphics.

SakusEnvoy

A new "generation" of hardware is released pretty much every year. Not just from AMD either (since when do they define things?).

PC hardware doesn't just suddenly advance by leaps and bounds, it advances incrimentally through a constant stream of upgrades.

But every generation of hardware gets more powerful then the other example a 4890 was high end for it's time and quite pricey now a GPU today at the same price would obliiterate it. Also everyu new generation takes the pricing place of the older one and offers more.

Todays PC gamings standards you can get a 1GB GPU really cheap compared to around when 8000 and 9000 series was out.

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#20 fireballonfire
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Nope, the next gen for PC begun on November 13th, 2007.

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Sounds just right.

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#21 John_Read
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what are the PC exclusives for fall that uses Bulldozer chip ?
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#22 SparkyProtocol
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what are the PC exclusives for fall that uses Bulldozer chip ?John_Read
All of them.
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#23 John_Read
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[QUOTE="John_Read"]what are the PC exclusives for fall that uses Bulldozer chip ?SparkyProtocol
All of them.

Ro2 uses it ?
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#24 PernicioEnigma
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I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.Moriarity_
PC's don't have generations, but graphics cards and processors sure do.
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#25 edidili
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[QUOTE="Moriarity_"]I wasn't aware that pc gaming had generations like console gaming does.xxxLUGZxxx

There are gens for PC's...just compare games like Crysis to games made in the early 2000's....that's called generational leaps in technology.

It's not really a gen. Is a constant evolution. A generational leap is from PS2 to PS3. Games in PC however continuously evolve in the way where you can't tell when one gen ends and when the other starts.

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#26 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="John_Read"]what are the PC exclusives for fall that uses Bulldozer chip ?John_Read
All of them.

Ro2 uses it ?

Why wouldn't it? You're not thinking of the APU are you?
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#27 LordRork
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Components have specific generations - processors have moved from single core to multiple core to APUs, for example. But at the same time as APUs we'll be using DDR3 RAM, which is a good few years old now.

But PC hardware is just a sliding window of constant improvement - since there are no expectations for everything to improve at the same time (that consoles are necessarily tied to) or many instances when previous software becomes obsolete, the platform as a whole can't really have a generation.

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#28 the_mitch28
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Although PC doesn't really have generations I know what you mean.

The release of the 8 series GPU by nVidia felt like the start of a new generation of PC gaming to me.

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#29 GTSaiyanjin2
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I think when the next high GPU from Nvidia/AMD comes out we will safely be able to say the next gen has started. I say that because the next gen of consoles are likely to use some of the same tech, even if its not as powerful.

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#30 razgriz_101
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next gen and generations dont really apply to PC per se.

Next gen will start when the Wii U comes out unless someone comes out quicker.Gen's usually dictate the era of console and their hardware in a simplified sense.

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#31 kraken2109
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PC kinda has generations which are usually linked to console generations. When new consoles come out, devs then make games more complicated since the lowest standard of hardware (consoles) has improved.

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#32 aroxx_ab
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Next gen begins when Sony says so :lol:

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#33 yellosnolvr
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Well, anyone who pays attention to PC hardware will see generations right in front of them.

AMD is releasing their new CPU architecure, followed by their new generation of ATI GPU's. When combined with games like Battlefield 3, PC gaming is about to take a generational leap in technology and graphics.

xxxLUGZxxx
but the argument of hardware releasing last year or the year before being able to max out games coming out this fall and next year can be used, which can really eliminate the necessity of saying there are generations on the PC platform.
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#34 Heil68
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next gen and generations dont really apply to PC per se.

Next gen will start when the Wii U comes out unless someone comes out quicker.Gen's usually dictate the era of console and their hardware in a simplified sense.

razgriz_101
I agree, although some have argued it has already started with the release of the 3DS.
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#35 campzor
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Next gen begins when Sony says so :lol:

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this, wii u is just going to get into this gen and then sony will unleash another beast. Wii U? more like wii who?
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#36 Sushiglutton
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Will video game historians in ten years look back and say that a new gen started fall 2011? No way imo! Nex gen starts when PS4 or X720 are launched (or maybe WiiU if it's significanly more poweful than PS3, X360).
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#37 Puckhog04
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That technically depends on how often you upgrade. Chances are the adoption rate for those videocards won't be all that high till the prices go down. On top of that, I was under the impression that PC doesn't have generations.

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I would say BF3 is going to issue in the age of the native DX11 games. Something PC needs right now. DX9 is maxed out.

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Will video game historians in ten years look back and say that a new gen started fall 2011? No way imo! Nex gen starts when PS4 or X720 are launched (or maybe WiiU if it's significanly more poweful than PS3, X360).Sushiglutton

There are definitely generations on the PC, they just are much more blurred than on the consoles. One can argue a new generation on the PC started with Half-Life 2, and another with Crysis. Before both of those Half-LIfe issued in a new age, and before that Quake 1 did. Funny how they all seem to be FPSs.

Anytime a major release jumps our standards so high should be considered a new generation. This happens vary rarely. Remember, Crysis 1 is already 4 years old, it's time for another major leap.