Does Xbox One really have better games?

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#102 StormyJoe
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@tormentos said:

@StormyJoe said:

If you want to debate metacritic scores, go to the metacritic forums.

Really because you don't agree with their rules of what is a multiplatform,for you if a game is not on PS4 but is on PC,xbox 360 and xbox one it is an advantage for the xbox,here by gamespot rules that is consider a multiplatforms and yeah it is irrelevant...

Ill await your spinning and double standard...hahaha If you don't agree with gamespot view of what a multiplatform is go argue else where..lol

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Yep, MCC. Kills anything the PS4 has by a ton.

lol no..

Bitch

hahaha....

Yes - if you can't play the game on a Playstation, then it is an advantage for XBox when you are talking about Xbox vs Playstation. Just like Planetside 2 is a Playstation advantage even though you can play it on a PC. Logic 101.

Ebert and Roeper didn't talk about the NYT review of the same movie, either. You want to talk about Metacritic - go on thier forums.

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@tormentos: TLOU is multiplat so doesn't count by your rules.

No is not by my rules is by Gamespot rules..

The same rules than landed FH2 into flop waters and TLOU to.

Now i don't go by gamespot which mean i use what ever i want,in fact my score are from meta or gameranking and fanboy like Stormyjoe cry like babies and hold to this site been gamespot and claim that if i want to discuss other place score that i should go to that place.

But he like you believe that if a game is not on one platform is an advantage to the other just like you think,since you use Ryse,DR3,Titanfall,and FH2 all which are multiplatforms,so the rules apply only when it serve you people best..hahha

Hell MCC is a multiplatform as well,so basically almost all on xbox one is multi platforms and doesn't require an xbox one.

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I don't agree with it but it is the apparent rules for this forum, hence me telling Tormentos not to do it.

I didn't count those other games??

If you don't count those the xbox one has 1 game Sunset over drive and that is it,the rest is multiplatform,even Halo 2 on MCC.

So yeah name one higher score than TLOU since what he posted there was a barrage of multiplatforms crap and unreleased games.

@psx_warrior said:

@tormentos: That is not FF to me.

Well it is to me and is call FF so yeah it is and is not on xbox one.

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#104 tormentos
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@StormyJoe said:

Yes - if you can't play the game on a Playstation, then it is an advantage for XBox when you are talking about Xbox vs Playstation. Just like Planetside 2 is a Playstation advantage even though you can play it on a PC. Logic 101.

Ebert and Roeper didn't talk about the NYT review of the same movie, either. You want to talk about Metacritic - go on thier forums.

  1. There is no such thing as "console exclusive" or "company exclusive." Console exclusive is a term coined by lemmings that used the Xbox 360/PC games as a means against the PS3.PC and Xbox brands are not "Microsoft Exclusive" as the PC is an open market in which even Sony (Playstation owner) distributes PCs.Furthermore, just because a game is Xbox One and Xbox 360, or PS3, PS4 and PSVita does not mean they are "exclusive." They are considered multiplatform games.

Hahahaa....

And is funny when you read that because it was you lemmings who came up with that shit,of using games on more than 1 platforms against the PS3,regardless of the game not requiring to own an xbox one console at all.

So yeah go argue elsewhere if you don't like gamespot rules,isn't that what you told me.?

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#105 clone01
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Its subjective. Whatever you want to play. You can't quantify personal satisfaction.

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#106 clone01
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@Suppaman100 said:

The truth is that PS4 AND Xbone have a lackluster exclusive library untill now.

But this will change, especially for PS4, knowing they have great first party devs. The games will come but developing a game now costs al lot of money and a LOT of time.

PS4 is a good investment...As for Xbone...just LOL

I definitely agree with the first half of the sentence of your post. Library of games is terrible at this point. This gen was rushed, no question.

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#107 Alcapello
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Ehhhh it does have a few multiplat you can't find on the wiiu.....then again the wiiu just got a 10/10 game as well.

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#108 Senor_Kami
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Both consoles have a line-ups that don't justify the cost of the system.

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@Sagemode87 said:

The Last of Us (95), Final Fantasy Realm Reborn (86), MLB14 The Show (83), Infamous Second Son (80), Killzone ShadowFall (73) and Drive Club (72) are all pretty good games. That's at least 4 games with a Metacritic score above an 80.

Let's be honest, Xbox only dropped 8 retail exclusives so far (only one more game than PS4). Out of those 8 xbox games, only 2 have a Metacritic score above an 80: TitanFall (86), Forza Horizon 2 (86), Forza 5 (79), Dead Rising 3 (78), Dance Central (74), Kinect Sports (60), Ryse (60) and Fighter Within (23).

Its amazing how Xbox fans try convincing themselves that Xbox has "more games" as a consolation prize to the fact that PS4 is outselling the Xbox One worldwide. Both consoles have about the same amount of quality retail games. It all comes down to which lineup interests you the most. Keep in mind, this doesn't include the downloadable gsmes. A category in which PS4 crushes X1. I think we can confirm PS4 has the better library.

it certainly doesn't have the better library of retail games, your post shows that both have only 6 titles above A rating, that makes them equal.

I get what you are saying that Lems should not be saying the Xbone has the better library but you should not be saying the PS4 has the better library either, both the console librarys are equally as shit in my opinion.

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#110 speedfreak48t5p
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None of the consoles are good. PC is where it's at with hardcore badass games like Stalker.

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@sts106mat said:

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but still enjoying music from 20+ years ago lol

Music isn't quite the same as replaying a game. Stupid analogy. Nonetheless....a listen to a lot of music from a lot of eras. But still......bad analogy.

No it isn't a stupid analogy at all. Does that music change each time you listen to it? is a great song from 10 years ago still not a great song.

you are one pedantic mother fucker

Actually yes music can change on different listens....but I doubt you are capable of understanding that. Go ahead and pay again to play the same game. I don't pay for a new copy of the music by the way.

Also you don't know what the word pedantic means.

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#113 delta3074
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@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@sts106mat said:

yes, but they dont count here because some of them are available on 360 haha.

Master Chief collection will make anything releasing on PS4 this holiday irrelevant

Nah. Not into rerun season.

but still enjoying music from 20+ years ago lol

Music isn't quite the same as replaying a game. Stupid analogy. Nonetheless....a listen to a lot of music from a lot of eras. But still......bad analogy.

No it isn't a stupid analogy at all. Does that music change each time you listen to it? is a great song from 10 years ago still not a great song.

you are one pedantic mother fucker

Yo mat, you played mission 9 on alien isolation yet?

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#115 delta3074
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@sts106mat said:

@delta3074 said:

@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

@sts106mat said:

yes, but they dont count here because some of them are available on 360 haha.

Master Chief collection will make anything releasing on PS4 this holiday irrelevant

Nah. Not into rerun season.

but still enjoying music from 20+ years ago lol

Music isn't quite the same as replaying a game. Stupid analogy. Nonetheless....a listen to a lot of music from a lot of eras. But still......bad analogy.

No it isn't a stupid analogy at all. Does that music change each time you listen to it? is a great song from 10 years ago still not a great song.

you are one pedantic mother fucker

Yo mat, you played mission 9 on alien isolation yet?

which one is that ? If it is the one i am thinking of, yes, it was unbelievable and really un-expected. I just got the flamethrower and made a save.

going home now, so might not get the reply till tomorrow.

yeah, you know the one i'm on about, just before you get the flamethrower, it's worth getting the Crew expendable and Ripley DLC if you have not already go them, Crew expendable just blew my mind, they really did study the Alien film when they created the DLC.

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#117 LJS9502_basic  Online
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@sts106mat said:

@LJS9502_basic said:

Actually yes music can change on different listens....but I doubt you are capable of understanding that. Go ahead and pay again to play the same game. I don't pay for a new copy of the music by the way.

Also you don't know what the word pedantic means.

yes i do, you are a pedantic mo-fo. you are famous for nit picking everything. you dont get 150,000 posts just from talking about games

I will happily pay again to play Halo CE, 3 & 4. I haven't played Halo 2, so will probably play that first. Given the amount of maps and options to play levels from any of the games in a playlist will be a great addition that is not possible anywhere else.

I doubt you even own an Xbox one, so why bother.

Well then that makes you Captain Pedantic since you nit-picked my answer because your little feelings were hurt.

And the analogy is beyond stupid. I don't keep paying for the same music.....you are paying for the same game.

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#118  Edited By Zelda187
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Unless you're a huge fan of Forza...then no.

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@tormentos said:

@tdkmillsy said:

@tormentos: TLOU is multiplat so doesn't count by your rules.

No is not by my rules is by Gamespot rules..

The same rules than landed FH2 into flop waters and TLOU to.

Now i don't go by gamespot which mean i use what ever i want,in fact my score are from meta or gameranking and fanboy like Stormyjoe cry like babies and hold to this site been gamespot and claim that if i want to discuss other place score that i should go to that place.

But he like you believe that if a game is not on one platform is an advantage to the other just like you think,since you use Ryse,DR3,Titanfall,and FH2 all which are multiplatforms,so the rules apply only when it serve you people best..hahha

Hell MCC is a multiplatform as well,so basically almost all on xbox one is multi platforms and doesn't require an xbox one.

@tdkmillsy said:

I don't agree with it but it is the apparent rules for this forum, hence me telling Tormentos not to do it.

I didn't count those other games??

If you don't count those the xbox one has 1 game Sunset over drive and that is it,the rest is multiplatform,even Halo 2 on MCC.

So yeah name one higher score than TLOU since what he posted there was a barrage of multiplatforms crap and unreleased games.

@psx_warrior said:

@tormentos: That is not FF to me.

Well it is to me and is call FF so yeah it is and is not on xbox one.

How did FH2 flop? What was the official hype? I don't recall it being AAA aside from a few lems claiming it would be. That doesn't make it official. TLOU OFFICIAL hype was AAA, that's why it flopped. Link the official FH2 hype please.

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How did FH2 flop? What was the official hype? I don't recall it being AAA aside from a few lems claiming it would be. That doesn't make it official. TLOU OFFICIAL hype was AAA, that's why it flopped. Link the official FH2 hype please.

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@blackace said:

Wanted to do a little digging. So I found the original Hype Thread for FH2. This one actually has the poll and I think it was created before this hype thread.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/official-hype-voe-for-fh2-31580631/#5

As you can see. the game was originall hyped as "AAE"

That was not the original hype thread. Nice try.

Here's what happened, straight from the creator of that thread...

@cainetao11 said: That is not what happened. b4x made a FH2 hype thread with NO POLL, which imo and others is fail. So the same day, September the 24th I believe, I made a FH2 Hype score Vote thread. But only, like 14 people voted and it drifted to the nether regions. The vote was AA. Then the review hit in October. I said "I believe I made a vote thread". charizard and ghostwarrior either remembered it or asked me to find it, so I did. For like 20 minutes that stood and FH2 wasn't a flop. But someone counted the posts calling out a score in the b4x Hype thread, and the tally said AAA was the leader. So YES. FH2 IS A FLOP BY SW METAGAME. Deal with it folks. Driveclub got a fuckin 5. A FIVE!!! Is that enough for you lems? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Thank you dude. That is what happened. I swear. The game(FH2 and Driveclub for that matter) is a flop by SW meta game rules.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/forza-horizon-2-gs-review-8-0-full-review-list-add-31579887/?page=19#js-message-342813634

Hey Kinglemming look that that,...

FH2 flopped.

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#121 kingtito
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@tormentos said:

@kingtito said:

How did FH2 flop? What was the official hype? I don't recall it being AAA aside from a few lems claiming it would be. That doesn't make it official. TLOU OFFICIAL hype was AAA, that's why it flopped. Link the official FH2 hype please.

@cainetao11 said:

@Zero_epyon said:

@blackace said:

Wanted to do a little digging. So I found the original Hype Thread for FH2. This one actually has the poll and I think it was created before this hype thread.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/official-hype-voe-for-fh2-31580631/#5

As you can see. the game was originall hyped as "AAE"

That was not the original hype thread. Nice try.

Here's what happened, straight from the creator of that thread...

@cainetao11 said: That is not what happened. b4x made a FH2 hype thread with NO POLL, which imo and others is fail. So the same day, September the 24th I believe, I made a FH2 Hype score Vote thread. But only, like 14 people voted and it drifted to the nether regions. The vote was AA. Then the review hit in October. I said "I believe I made a vote thread". charizard and ghostwarrior either remembered it or asked me to find it, so I did. For like 20 minutes that stood and FH2 wasn't a flop. But someone counted the posts calling out a score in the b4x Hype thread, and the tally said AAA was the leader. So YES. FH2 IS A FLOP BY SW METAGAME. Deal with it folks. Driveclub got a fuckin 5. A FIVE!!! Is that enough for you lems? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

Thank you dude. That is what happened. I swear. The game(FH2 and Driveclub for that matter) is a flop by SW meta game rules.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/forza-horizon-2-gs-review-8-0-full-review-list-add-31579887/?page=19#js-message-342813634

Hey Kinglemming look that that,...

FH2 flopped.

Hey you moron, I didn't say it wasn't a flop dumbass. I asked for a link to the official hype thread where it was officially hyped a 9. I wasn't aware of what the hype came out to be which is why I asked. Damn you're just 1 hell of a stupid person.

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@Sagemode87 said:

@speedfreak48t5p: 11.5 million consoles>>>>>>>5.7

11.5 million brainwashed Sony cock jockies that would buy dog shit if it were bagged in PS branded sacks!!!

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Using only facts, we have a clear winner. This pretty much ends the discussion: http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

Not even I can argue against the facts.

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@Sagemode87: 11.5 million consoles>>>>>>>5.7

Great. You proved you're like the majority. How does that make you feel?

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@RR360DD: "Killzone ShadowFall (73) and Drive Club (72) are all pretty good games."

LMAO your a joke

I laughed because those games are pretty good, but he points out F5 and DR3 are below 80 at MC as a negative, but they are higher than those two "pretty good games"

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@Sagemode87 said:

ps4 has no games :(

agreed

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@KarateeeChop said:

@Sagemode87 said:

ps4 has no games :(

agreed

I third that.

But since the Xbone has less games. Facts here: http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

The only reasonable conclusion is that the Xbone has negative games.

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X1 has better games than ps4. Ps4 has more games technically but the majority are indies. Indies equal apps as far as im concerned and not the main course

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@clr84651 said:

@MonsieurX said:

@clr84651 said:

@freedomfreak said:

@MonsieurX said:

@Sagemode87 said:
Both consoles have about the same amount of quality games. It all comes down to which lineup interests you the most.

So,the point of your thread is...?

Seriously.

Also, Bayonetta 2>all of that.

Bayonetta 2 is only on Wii U which is a major mistake by it's devs.

Yeah, instead of canning the game.

No, just would be more profitable and make more sense to be on the consoles that the first one was on. Odd situation.

Not sure how it would have happen since Nintendo funded the game so they could finish it

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@slim70: See I owned both last gen as well and I bought more and played more on the 360 because for a good portion of the generation, 360 was killing it in the same manner the ps4 is now. I can admit when a console is better, and you are right about games being better is subjective, which is why I said in my opinion. Personally I'm happy to own all 3 consoles and a gaming PC. Best of all worlds.

PS- Why so touchy? I was just telling my opinion.

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@iambatman7986 said:

@slim70: See I owned both last gen as well and I bought more and played more on the 360 because for a good portion of the generation, 360 was killing it in the same manner the ps4 is now. I can admit when a console is better, and you are right about games being better is subjective, which is why I said in my opinion. Personally I'm happy to own all 3 consoles and a gaming PC. Best of all worlds.

PS- Why so touchy? I was just telling my opinion.

I agree, it's best to own all platforms. All of my multiplats go on my PC and I have consoles for the exclusives and the occasional sports game. Personally though, I'm having a better time with the games on Xbox and can't wait for Halo and Sunset Overdrive. I won't be purchasing a PS4 game until 2015 when The Order comes out.

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@kratosyoloswag said:

Using only facts, we have a clear winner. This pretty much ends the discussion: http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

Not even I can argue against the facts.

If you have to create lists with a bunch of filler arcade titles such as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade" etc... to justify your console its a clear indication that it doesn't have the strongest library, and isn't really anything to brag about.

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#134 MortalDecayX
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Contrary to what any rabid fanboy will tell you, both consoles have good games to offer. Hell, even the Wii U does now, as well. This is why owning all 3 is the best way to go.

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@SuddenlyTragic said:

@iambatman7986 said:

@slim70: See I owned both last gen as well and I bought more and played more on the 360 because for a good portion of the generation, 360 was killing it in the same manner the ps4 is now. I can admit when a console is better, and you are right about games being better is subjective, which is why I said in my opinion. Personally I'm happy to own all 3 consoles and a gaming PC. Best of all worlds.

PS- Why so touchy? I was just telling my opinion.

I agree, it's best to own all platforms. All of my multiplats go on my PC and I have consoles for the exclusives and the occasional sports game. Personally though, I'm having a better time with the games on Xbox and can't wait for Halo and Sunset Overdrive. I won't be purchasing a PS4 game until 2015 when The Order comes out.

Oh yeah, I'm with you. I'm seriously hyped for SO and MCC. This fall my console gaming will shift to the One for sure. Plus I still need to grab Forza Horizon 2. I usually get multiplats on the PC as well. Consoles are for the exclusives, unless the multiplat doesn't go to PC. I'm also with you on no PS4 games until The Order, and that may not be a buy for me until it drops in price.

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@opex07 said:
@kratosyoloswag said:

Using only facts, we have a clear winner. This pretty much ends the discussion: http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

Not even I can argue against the facts.

If you have to create lists with a bunch of filler arcade titles such as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade" etc... to justify your console its a clear indication that it doesn't have the strongest library, and isn't really anything to brag about.

When you have to make excuses to argue against the facts, it's clear your console doesn't have the strongest library. Let's take a look at some of those Xbone games, Fighter Within (lol). The PS4 beats it in both number of games and scores, it wins in quantity and quality. Only facts, no excuses either.

I have no reason to justify anything since I don't own either of the consoles. I only defend the best console.

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#137 opex07
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@kratosyoloswag said:

@opex07 said:
@kratosyoloswag said:

Using only facts, we have a clear winner. This pretty much ends the discussion: http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

Not even I can argue against the facts.

If you have to create lists with a bunch of filler arcade titles such as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade" etc... to justify your console its a clear indication that it doesn't have the strongest library, and isn't really anything to brag about.

When you have to make excuses to argue against the facts, it's clear your console doesn't have the strongest library. Let's take a look at some of those Xbone games, Fighter Within (lol). The PS4 beats it in both number of games and scores, it wins in quantity and quality. Only facts, no excuses either.

I have no reason to justify anything since I don't own either of the consoles. I only defend the best console.

Xbox fans are not listing games such as Fighter within as reasons as why the xbox currently has the better library of games. For the most part we see them listing games such as Forza, DR3, Titan Fall, etc.. as reasons as to why it has a better library, these being games that actually have some merit, then we have PS4 fans such as your self that have been putting up lists with such titles as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade", that are filled with Filler titles that no one would waste time talking about to justify its library, because they don't have much in the way of worthwhile full retail games. It is two distinct mentality's, one being more desperate than the other (PS4).

If you believe that having games like pure chest, and pinball, and various other small indie titles, that for the most part don't compare to full games, as reasons to justify the lack of worthwhile differentiating retail titles makes the PS4 the "best" console, because that's what your essentially doing, then more power to you.

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#138  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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Why can't people admit neither console has good exclusives?

There's basically Forza 5 and Infamous SS. If you count multiplats, there's Titanfall, Forza Horizon 2, FF XIV and TLOU. Soon, MCC on xb1.

Maybe DR3, Driveclub and Killzone SF abit, if you strech it.

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#139 GamersJustGame
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Currently, yes. Xbox One has better games. But not much better. If Sunset Overdrive delivers along with Halo. It could be very good. PS4 has kinda dropped the ball with good games. But Bloodborne looks like it could be epic. Can't wait.

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#140 KratosYOLOSwag
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@opex07 said:

Xbox fans are not listing games such as Fighter within as reasons as why the xbox currently has the better library of games. For the most part we see them listing games such as Forza, DR3, Titan Fall, etc.. as reasons as to why it has a better library, these being games that actually have some merit, then we have PS4 fans such as your self that have been putting up lists with such titles as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade", that are filled with Filler titles that no one would waste time talking about to justify its library, because they don't have much in the way of worthwhile full retail games. It is two distinct mentality's, one being more desperate than the other (PS4).

If you believe that having games like pure chest, and pinball, and various other small indie titles, that for the most part don't compare to full games, as reasons to justify the lack of worthwhile differentiating retail titles makes the PS4 the "best" console, because that's what your essentially doing, then more power to you.

Or we could list every game instead. Taking into account the whole library the PS4 wins. Just because you don't like some games, doesn't mean we don't need to list them. If we hand pick the best titles on each the PS4 still wins.

Even though there's nothing I would want to play on the PS4 at the moment, I still can't deny it has a better lineup than the Xbone. They're both pretty awful though.

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#141  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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@kratosyoloswag said:

@opex07 said:

Xbox fans are not listing games such as Fighter within as reasons as why the xbox currently has the better library of games. For the most part we see them listing games such as Forza, DR3, Titan Fall, etc.. as reasons as to why it has a better library, these being games that actually have some merit, then we have PS4 fans such as your self that have been putting up lists with such titles as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade", that are filled with Filler titles that no one would waste time talking about to justify its library, because they don't have much in the way of worthwhile full retail games. It is two distinct mentality's, one being more desperate than the other (PS4).

If you believe that having games like pure chest, and pinball, and various other small indie titles, that for the most part don't compare to full games, as reasons to justify the lack of worthwhile differentiating retail titles makes the PS4 the "best" console, because that's what your essentially doing, then more power to you.

Or we could list every game instead. Taking into account the whole library the PS4 wins. Just because you don't like some games, doesn't mean we don't need to list them. If we hand pick the best titles on each the PS4 still wins.

Even though there's nothing I would want to play on the PS4 at the moment, I still can't deny it has a better lineup than the Xbone. They're both pretty awful though.

Numerically yes, the PS4 has more games. Quality? HELL NO. The ONE has more quality titles. Hands down.

Ps4 has alot of garbage.

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#142 lamprey263
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well, the one game I want to play more than any other on either system is Dead Rising 3, but that's about it

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#143 KratosYOLOSwag
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@FoxbatAlpha: Qualiy is subjective. I prefer arguing with facts. The PS4 has more and higher scoring games. Your opinion seems to be in the minority, with polls saying the PS4 has the better library, but I respect it.

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#144 FoxbatAlpha
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@kratosyoloswag said:

@FoxbatAlpha: Qualiy is subjective. I prefer arguing with facts. The PS4 has more and higher scoring games. Your opinion seems to be in the minority, with polls saying the PS4 has the better library, but I respect it.

Well when you compare scores like Resogun 9/10 and Forza 5 9/10 there is a difference. First/third party games are more important when compared to indies. Sony has killed their indie card. Too many damn showcases devoted to indies and if i had a PS4 i would be pissed that this is even a hype'd area.

I respect your opinion too.

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#145 jet052006
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@kratosyoloswag: Why would we include every game released as an example of why a system is better? If a system had hundreds of poorly scoring games that where barely playable would you say it's better than a system that had only a handful of great games and nothing else? That's never been a measurement to determine somethings quality for a reason.

The PS4 does not have more high quality titles unless you want to move the bar lower to allow games below AA and arcade games that where never considered quality titles previous gens. Wanting to lower the bar/ standard to accommodate the PS4 is a clear example on why it currently is lacking in games and why the thread on reasons to own a PS4 heavily favors hype over games

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#146 Sagemode87
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@gamersjustgame said:

Currently, yes. Xbox One has better games. But not much better. If Sunset Overdrive delivers along with Halo. It could be very good. PS4 has kinda dropped the ball with good games. But Bloodborne looks like it could be epic. Can't wait.

No it doesn't, PS4s library is far better.

http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

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#147 Sagemode87
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@opex07 said:

@kratosyoloswag said:

@opex07 said:
@kratosyoloswag said:

Using only facts, we have a clear winner. This pretty much ends the discussion: http://www.listwar.com/released-games/

Not even I can argue against the facts.

If you have to create lists with a bunch of filler arcade titles such as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade" etc... to justify your console its a clear indication that it doesn't have the strongest library, and isn't really anything to brag about.

When you have to make excuses to argue against the facts, it's clear your console doesn't have the strongest library. Let's take a look at some of those Xbone games, Fighter Within (lol). The PS4 beats it in both number of games and scores, it wins in quantity and quality. Only facts, no excuses either.

I have no reason to justify anything since I don't own either of the consoles. I only defend the best console.

Xbox fans are not listing games such as Fighter within as reasons as why the xbox currently has the better library of games. For the most part we see them listing games such as Forza, DR3, Titan Fall, etc.. as reasons as to why it has a better library, these being games that actually have some merit, then we have PS4 fans such as your self that have been putting up lists with such titles as "pure chest" and "pinball arcade", that are filled with Filler titles that no one would waste time talking about to justify its library, because they don't have much in the way of worthwhile full retail games. It is two distinct mentality's, one being more desperate than the other (PS4).

If you believe that having games like pure chest, and pinball, and various other small indie titles, that for the most part don't compare to full games, as reasons to justify the lack of worthwhile differentiating retail titles makes the PS4 the "best" console, because that's what your essentially doing, then more power to you.

If you have to haggle with what counts and what doesn't count, then you're arguing subjectively. What if I don't care for the games you do? Objectively, PS4 has the better library.

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#148  Edited By YD_11
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What are the cows' here opinion on the best games on ps4? Say the top 3-5 games?

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#149 mgools
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Depends what games you like. If you like Xbox One exclusives better than PS4 exclusive then that is the system you should get. If you like PS4 exclusives best then the PS4 is better. If the multiplat games are your things then the PS4 tends to have a step up in graphics department. If you like the TV apps (not my thing) then the Xbox One might be your thing. I never understood system wars. Get what you like and have some fun.

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#150 Fairmonkey
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Xbox has the more promising fall lineup but IMO, no xbone game comes close to how promising Bloodborne and Uncharted 4 look. Also, historically Playstation has always offered more exclusives because they have a stronger first party than M$