Don't be fooled by the Wii people

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with. It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo. How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people? Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out).

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male. Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay. Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved. They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure. The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV. I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up. The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

tmacairjordan87

The TC is right, Nintendo will only fall behind once people get sick of the motion sensing controls.Demonic_Eyes133

Judging by their release list, that ain't gonna happen anytime soon.

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[QUOTE="Demonic_Eyes133"]The TC is right, Nintendo will only fall behind once people get sick of the motion sensing controls.Tylendal

Is there a day I should mark on my calender for when I should get sick of it?

First it was that it was going to be a month before it wore off then two then three then 4... ... when?

If you use them enough they will.... 

Anyway yes, people know what they are getting, know what games are out for it and yet still get it... I dont' think anyone is being fooled. The only people being fooled are those who think that there won't be lasting appeal.  

Lots of hate on the Wii today huh? I'm not reading that, because I skimmed through it and already found that you barely know what you're talking about.ShakeNBake1491

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

[QUOTE="Demonic_Eyes133"]The TC is right, Nintendo will only fall behind once people get sick of the motion sensing controls.GundamGuy0

Is there a day I should mark on my calender for when I should get sick of it?

First it was that it was going to be a month before it wore off then two then three then 4... ... when?

If you use them enough they will.... 

Anyway yes, people know what they are getting, know what games are out for it and yet still get it... I dont' think anyone is being fooled. The only people being fooled are those who think that there won't be lasting appeal.  

The Gamecube had no lasting appeal because of their weak lineup of games, and they did horrible sales wise compared to the other 2, now i'm willing to sit on the fence with the wii and maybe try it again when it gets better games, cause I agree with the fact that both the 360 and PS3 had/have weak lineups when they first started, hell all systems did.  The PS2 had an atrocious lineup at first but in time they had the best

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"][QUOTE="tmacairjordan87"]

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

 The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with.  It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo.  How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people?  Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out). 

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male.  Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay.  Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved.  They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure.  The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

 They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV.  I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up.  The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

tmacairjordan87

Look Kid. If you don't like it, well I don't care if you don't like it coz i'm loving mine! So are 6 million other people.

Face it dude, the console you apparently hate is owning its competitors right now in momentum and demand.

Go play a game and come back and tell me it matters what console it  is what and that having fun playing whatever isn't more important than console wars.

And you lost me at the "I've never liked kiddie games" statement.

You obviously possess a short attention span because Pokemon is more violent than alot of those GTA games. Why hit a hooker with a bat when you can set a living thing on fire, or electricute it?

You missed my point when i said it's winning right now cause it's a GIMMICK, fooling people with sub par games but it's the controller that has them fixated right now...and my point was that in time it will lose it's effect on people and they will start to play the other stuff because of the actual game

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but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTVAvinashTyagi

It's hilarious that you are suggesting that non-gamers would give a crap about hardcore games like Gears of War and Lair.

I don't want anyone thinking i'm a fanboy either, I have a DS and yes i notice that the majority of their games are childish and it's not as powerful as the psp, but where the psp fails is the weak lineup of games (odd for a sony system i must admit).  I like my DS cause it has simple games where i don't have to spend 60 bucks and don't have to spend hours on it, and they succeed there cause that's what handhelds are for.

But i don't want any of that stuff in a console, if i'm putting down hundreds of dollars and 60 bucks for the games i want them to be all that they can be, and i want the future of the system game wise to look bright, and the wii's does not look bright past the usual mario zelda star fox and metroid games.

Well if you wanna just have fun and not know why your having fun, so when someone asks you why do you like the Wii and you can't tell them then fine, judging from what they have now your either a) a zelda fan, b) you like kiddie games, c) you liked the gamecube because other than the controller it's a gamecube.  For me, and this is only me now that i'm referring to..I'm not impressed by kiddie games, i hated the gamecube cause they only had a few games i liked, and the wii has not impressed me with it's fancy controllertmacairjordan87

"your a cow", are you gonna get mad cause someone said something you don't like?

To be honest your in the few if you actually liked the gamecube, the sales prove that it was not popular

and for the record i have a 360 and love it, it's obviously the strongest system on this day.  It's gonna be a close battle for first between them and Sony I'm looking forward to what they have to give

"your a cow", are you gonna get mad cause someone said something you don't like?

To be honest your in the few if you actually liked the gamecube, the sales prove that it was not popular

and for the record i have a 360 and love it, it's obviously the strongest system on this day.  It's gonna be a close battle for first between them and Sony I'm looking forward to what they have to give

tmacairjordan87

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with. It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo. How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people? Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out).

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male. Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay. Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved. They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure. The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV. I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up. The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

tmacairjordan87

How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people?tmacairjordan87

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

 The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with.  It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo.  How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people?  Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out). 

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male.  Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay.  Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved.  They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure.  The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

 They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV.  I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up.  The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

tmacairjordan87

Man! Your logic is all over the place.

The Wii is a bit more than just a GC with a motion contorller...It has all the various channels, including internet browing. It has the Virtual Console. It DOES have online gaming it's just that it is not fully implemented yet, just like it also took a while on the DS.

It's games like Cooking Mama, Wii Sports, Raving Rabids etc that are keeping the casual gamers playing, not games like Gears of War or Lair etc. Casual gamers are far more likely to pick up simple fun titles than the kind of games that a hardcore gamer would pick up.

Pokemon is loved by hardocre and casual gamers alike and of course non gamers love Tamagotchi.

Nintendo has made it known they are targetting non-gamer AND hardcore gamers AND casual gamers.

I suspect you are just having a laugh and I hope you are...

*Covers TC's mouth as quickly as possible*

Easy on the "Gimmick" Word. That's in the top ten list to trigger Wii Fanboys around here along with "It's a port". Seriously, if you want to survive around here, you have to learn to not put your feet in the bear trap. It's very important.

RurouniSaiyajin

say that all you want. It still doesn't make it trueBuryMe

*Chooses not to dignify with response, but responds anyway*

Um...you're wrong.

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with. It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo. How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people? Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this...Incorrect Person who makes threads

A new account just to make a post this mediocre? Tsk, tsk.

 

CelineDion

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A new account just to make a post this mediocre? Tsk, tsk.

 

gingerdivid

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

 The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with.  It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo.  How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people?  Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out). 

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male.  Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay.  Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved.  They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure.  The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

 They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV.  I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up.  The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

tmacairjordan87

The fact that the Wii is selling to the nongamer crowd tells you that they don't want to play games like Gears of War, Motorstorm or Lair? Did you ever stop to think that these are the kind of games that DON'T appeal to casual crowds? I know it's hard to believe that someone might not like Gears of War! I don't even like Gears of War! LOL!  Everyone is so afraid of the Wii succeding in this forum...what's the deal!?

Good first post.

Welcome to the gamespot forums. You will find that arguing with sheep is futile, as they are the most stubborn of all fanboys by far.

Don't do it, trust me. 

Trading_Zoner

wait i thought you werent a cow :roll:

dont trust any fanboys period specially one with a sony logo bashing wii...

wow

Well if you wanna just have fun and not know why your having fun, so when someone asks you why do you like the Wii and you can't tell them then fine, judging from what they have now your either a) a zelda fan, b) you like kiddie games, c) you liked the gamecube because other than the controller it's a gamecube.  For me, and this is only me now that i'm referring to..I'm not impressed by kiddie games, i hated the gamecube cause they only had a few games i liked, and the wii has not impressed me with it's fancy controllertmacairjordan87

Translation:  I don't bother playing games unless they have a certain level of violence in them, because I cannot live without a disproportionate amount of violence.  That's the sort of thing that gives gamers a bad reputation, and creates nutters like Jack Thompson.

[QUOTE="tmacairjordan87"]Well if you wanna just have fun and not know why your having fun, so when someone asks you why do you like the Wii and you can't tell them then fine, judging from what they have now your either a) a zelda fan, b) you like kiddie games, c) you liked the gamecube because other than the controller it's a gamecube.  For me, and this is only me now that i'm referring to..I'm not impressed by kiddie games, i hated the gamecube cause they only had a few games i liked, and the wii has not impressed me with it's fancy controllerTylendal

Translation:  I don't bother playing games unless they have a certain level of violence in them, because I cannot live without a disproportionate amount of violence.  That's the sort of thing that gives gamers a bad reputation, and creates nutters like Jack Thompson.

:lol:

  oh priceless

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male.  Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay.  tmacairjordan87

[QUOTE="tmacairjordan87"]

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

 The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with.  It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo.  How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people?  Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out). 

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male.  Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay.  Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved.  They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure.  The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

 They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV.  I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up.  The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

VideoGameGuy

The fact that the Wii is selling to the nongamer crowd tells you that they don't want to play games like Gears of War, Motorstorm or Lair? Did you ever stop to think that these are the kind of games that DON'T appeal to casual crowds? I know it's hard to believe that someone might not like Gears of War! I don't even like Gears of War! LOL!  Everyone is so afraid of the Wii succeding in this forum...what's the deal!?

What a shocker.  A brand new level 1 poster making a thread acting like he's a gaming expert.  Nope...no fanboy here, just rational, logical arguements.  Or not...

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without biastmacairjordan87

Even people with all three systems have a bias.  Especially if that person is NOT a real gamer but mopre of a technology fanboy.

The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with.  It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo.  How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people?

Uhmm...I played Zelda and you move around using the joystick.  I've played Tony Hawk and Sonic where you move around using the D-pad.  I've played Trauma center where you need motion control to get the true experience of the game. Hell, even Tiger Woods has the option of using the stick.  And the new Super Paper Mario, which every preview has worshipped, controls like a NES title using the D-pad and two buttons.

So I am calling you out right now as either a liar or a plant.  If you played the Wii for more than 5 seconds you would know that it isn't all about moving the motion sensor to "move your guy around." 

Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out). 

No real gamer talks about "adult" games.  FACT: the overwhelming majority of games are in the T for TEEN category and those are on all consoles.  FACT: Nintendo has proven there is a market being ignored and they are selling out because of it.  FACT: MS and Sony are not "selling out" and even when they did it wasn't because of their "mature" games.  It was because of hype or because of fanboys or because people felt there was a wide selection of games to chose from.  NOT because of "adult" games vs "kiddie" games.

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male.  Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay. 

Why do casuals always tell the same story about how they got into gaming with the PS1...and yet think they know about the industry as something other than a casual outsider.  I agree.  The PS1 was amazing but it had nothing to do with advanced gameplay (which was the same as always), graphics (which at the begining were no better than Saturn).  Sure, adult themed games helped, but moreso because they were new at the time.  Now they aren't new and gameplay hasn't changed either.  People want something new and the casual gamer isn't just a bunch of graphics worshipping tech-nerds.  They want to have fun with friends.  They don't want to play a single player mature game by themselves. 

And I consider myself a hardcore gamer AND I've been around way longer than PS1 (way way longer).  I also have a massive game collectio made up like 90% of those very single player games you are probably talking about...I still have a wii and think it's a blast. 

Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin,

Right...because XBL really sparked those Xbox sales.  That whopping 10% saturation rate was wicked huge.  Even now after selling 40 million Xbox and 360's combined, they still only have roughly that 10%.  And online isn't exactly making PS3's fly off the shelves now is it?  Meanwhile the wii, which supposedly has a nail in it's coffin, is selling in numbers the other two can only dream of or get nostalgic about. 

it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved. 

I love how you write off the innovative potential for the Wii as being a gimmick, but call the "same-old-same-old" trend of the 360/PS3, which offer NOTHING NEW TO GAMING, as being "evolved."  If people liked by your definition of evolved we'd all still be monkies...but with nicer clothes.

Only a matter of time before they fall?  Are you kidding?  You still can't find the console in stores and the much praised Paper Mario is coming out in a week...but Nintendo is in trouble.   The 360 can't sell more than the Xbox did, and the PS3 can't sell period...but the Wii is in trouble.  Right. Talk about willfull, fanboy ignorance.

They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure.  The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

First off, Nintendo is smart to not directly fight with Sony and MS.  Not only can they not afford that battle, but SOny and MS are moving down a completely unsustainable path.  they are losing more money on the consoles than they can ever hope to make back from game sales.  That is why they are adding all these extras features that hopefully will profit elsewhere like online and BR.  But by adding these features and focusing on just hardware, they are making consoles too expensive, making game development way too expensive, and yet they have not offered one shred of proof that games sales adn therefore profits will improve even the slightest.  If anything, profits for game developers are hurting as their costs go up and sales don't.

Meanwhile Nintendo is makig money off every console, and games are cheaper to make ensuring devs make a profit.  Plus with sales and public interet, developers are willing to make more titles that you can't get or do for the other consoles.  real gamers care about gaming...not graphics, or showing off, or trying to impress others with delusions of maturity.  You are not your game collection my friend.  And your insecure whining tells me that you are neither a gamer not mature.

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

 The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with.  It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo.  How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people?  Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out). 

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male.  Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay.  Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved.  They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure.  The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

 They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV.  I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up.  The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

tmacairjordan87

PS1 and PS2 had the worst graphics of their respective generations.  You clearly are a fanboy.  But that's ok.  Without fanboy's SW would be boring.

First off just because you've played all three consoles doesn't make you unbiased. From your post one can gather that you have had a certain amount of bias against Nintendo (Nintendo has only kiddy games, lack of advanced gameplay, playstation had better graphics?!!? LOL) How can we take you seriously when you make such comments? You obviously went into playing the Wii  expecting "crappy" graphics, simple gameplay and kiddy games, and long and behold...That's what you found! WOW!

The fact that the Wii is selling to the nongamer crowd tells you that they don't want to play games like Gears of War, Motorstorm or Lair? Did you ever stop to think that these are the kind of games that DON'T appeal to casual crowds? I know it's hard to believe that someone might not like Gears of War! I don't even like Gears of War! LOL!  Everyone is so afraid of the Wii succeding in this forum...what's the deal!?

VideoGameGuy

While I agree with your point, I have owned numerous console since console gaming first began.  I owned both a PS1 and a N64...and with the exception of maybe 3 or 4 titles, I truly feel the PS1 had better graphics.  The N64 had more power, but the clunky artistic style of most games, combined with the lack of developer support, I don't think that power came close to reaching it's potential.  In fact, the difference only became clear when games like RE2 were ported to the N64.  Other than that, I'd take a Silent Hill, RE3, or FF9 over Conker or Ocarina or Mario 64 in the graphics department any day.

No doubt, there were a few games that really showed what the N64 could do, and they put the PS1 to shame (ie. Star wars titles), but they were few and far between due to the sad fate of the consoles support.

Haha, "They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV." Well then they aren't casual gamers. Before we go on rants lets think what we're saying through. Casuals aren't the ones running out buying new HDTVs or $400+ video game consoles hardcore gamers are.cametall

If you were really hardcore, the HDTV would be insignificant compared to actually PLAYING the games. Graphic Whores buy HD TV specifically for gaming not the hardcore (in my opinion).

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]First off just because you've played all three consoles doesn't make you unbiased. From your post one can gather that you have had a certain amount of bias against Nintendo (Nintendo has only kiddy games, lack of advanced gameplay, playstation had better graphics?!!? LOL) How can we take you seriously when you make such comments? You obviously went into playing the Wii expecting "crappy" graphics, simple gameplay and kiddy games, and long and behold...That's what you found! WOW!

The fact that the Wii is selling to the nongamer crowd tells you that they don't want to play games like Gears of War, Motorstorm or Lair? Did you ever stop to think that these are the kind of games that DON'T appeal to casual crowds? I know it's hard to believe that someone might not like Gears of War! I don't even like Gears of War! LOL! Everyone is so afraid of the Wii succeding in this forum...what's the deal!?

ZIMdoom

While I agree with your point, I have owned numerous console since console gaming first began. I owned both a PS1 and a N64...and with the exception of maybe 3 or 4 titles, I truly feel the PS1 had better graphics. The N64 had more power, but the clunky artistic style of most games, combined with the lack of developer support, I don't think that power came close to reaching it's potential. In fact, the difference only became clear when games like RE2 were ported to the N64. Other than that, I'd take a Silent Hill, RE3, or FF9 over Conker or Ocarina or Mario 64 in the graphics department any day.

No doubt, there were a few games that really showed what the N64 could do, and they put the PS1 to shame (ie. Star wars titles), but they were few and far between due to the sad fate of the consoles support.

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"][QUOTE="CelineDion"]

A new account just to make a post this mediocre? Tsk, tsk.

 

coreygames

Has GingerDivid ever shown or provided any proof to him being a gaming historian? Does he have any publications, columns, or anything? 

but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTVMikazukinoyaiba

It's hilarious that you are suggesting that non-gamers would give a crap about hardcore games like Gears of War and Lair.

I've played all 3 systems so I feel like I can say this without bias

The Wii is nothing but a gimmick people, you gotta realize that to start with. It's basically a gamecube with a motion sensing controller, woopidie doo. How long will the fact that you can move your guy around by waving the controller interest even the most simple minded people? Nintendo pulled out the only thing they could do as a last ditch attempt to make noise in the console wars by doing this, but didn't sell out by making adult oriented games like Sony and Microsoft have (although they've done it since they started in the industry so their not selling out).

The facts are most of the people who play video games are adults 18+ and teens 13-17, and majorly male. Going back to when i was 12 I had little interest in kiddie games and from experience with most other guys my age we all felt the same, that Nintendo was ok but Playstation was amazing because of the graphics, adult themes, and more advanced gameplay. Then xbox came out with online multiplayer, sony followed with ps3 and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online, therefore nailing their own coffin, it's only a matter of time before they fall now for their complete ignorance as to where the industry has evolved. They let Sony mortally wound them and their refusal to fight Sony and Microsoft back has all but assured their failure. The truth is just not that many people want to play kiddie games and games thta look crappy compared to the other systems

They aimed the Wii at non gamers and family's with the motion sensor, but how long will a non gamer stay interested with games like Cooking Mama's Cook Off or w/e it's called, specially when they see games like Gears of War, Motorstorm, or Lair on an HDTV. I know us hardcore games don't like to whore ourselves to graphics, but Nintendo has made it known they are targeting non gamers, well non gamers don't like Pokemon or Tamagatchi, they like violence and stuff crashing/blowing up. The reason why it's done so well right now is cause of it's price and the gimmick, but soon that gimmick will wear off from Nintendo's usual weak lineup of games and they will fall right back down to a distant third, and their eventual tombstone should say "We killed ourselves".

tmacairjordan87

wii if Fun , so was the tamagotchi 

I hope the TC realizes that his rehashed points are starting to get old,especially after they've been used hundreds of times.:|

The Wii is a great console.Deal with it.

"...and Nintendo STILL refuses to make a serious effort at online..." WTF? Ever heard of Nintendo Wifi?!? Oh yeah, and Nintendo online is FREE unlike any other console. We don't have to shell out another $50-60 for online multiplayer fun. I don't know why I even bothered to reply to this topic, it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.Lone_Wolf5860

Online on PS3 is also free, smart guy.

Problem with the Wii's online is that it's almost nonexistant. And come on... Friend Codes? Nintendo fails at online gaming.